[Q] Can a non-firmware update patch root? - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

I was wondering if an update from say, google play services or Moto voice could patch the current root, and if i should be cautious about updating these system apps. In additoin to this question, has anybody just suddenly lost root in the middle of using their device? This has happened to me several times, and a simple reboot brings root back, but I am not sure what could be causing it since i am doing so much with my phone now it is hard to reproduce on purpose.

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[Q] Strange Behavior on KK 4.4

I have a MotoX on KK 4.4 rooted.
Recently (since it started bugging about the 4.4.2 OTA update) I notice that occasionally and seemingly randomly, the device with make the animation for switching apps. The active app (even the home screen) fill fade out, then back in again. it almost appears as if the App is switching to something else that is NOT displayed, then back again.
Apps react to this as if the app was suspended and reactivated (Games pause, emails and websites refresh, etc).
I thought it may be something I added from rooting, i.e. Xposed, but I uninstalled all root apps and the behavior persists.
Any advice?
I never had that, I have an rooted and bootloader unlocked Moto X, Gravity Box and other frameworks enabled, I thing the best you could do is to reset your phone, and maybe re-do de update.
Bumping thread.
Update: I tried resetting my phone back, and it went away, but as soon as it started trying to push the 4.4.2 update (which fails to install anyway) the problem returned.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
jaredtritsch said:
Bumping thread.
Update: I tried resetting my phone back, and it went away, but as soon as it started trying to push the 4.4.2 update (which fails to install anyway) the problem returned.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
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Sometimes when there is modified system files, the OTA update will fail. And to restore this files, maybe the best option is returning to your Stock Android (the same version you are using at the moment), guide here, works flawlessly: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515)
And then trying to do the OTA update, remember that soon we'll get 4.4.3, so maybe this bug could be fixed.

[Q] Motorola Sensor Services Uninstall

I have had my Moto X (2014) Pure Edition for about two weeks now and am loving it! I am coming from a Nexus 5.
I have a question about a message I received after I unlocked the bootloader and have rooted the phone. Before I did any of this, I did, as prompted, update the Motorola Sensor Services.
After a smooth bootloader unlock and root, however, I now have a message, about "Complete Uninstall" and reverting the Sensor Services firmware. I am continuing to install all of the Moto app updates and getting the phone back to where it was.
What should I do? Should I revert the services back? Or as some has said on other forums, if you reboot, it should disappear?
I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Matthew
A restart did not make the message go away.
I got it too after rooting I uninstalled the update and few minutes later it prompted me for the update install it without losing root
For clarification
jmcdonald58 said:
I got it too after rooting I uninstalled the update and few minutes later it prompted me for the update install it without losing root
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Just to clarify. You are saying uninstall the services like it asks and then I'll be reprompted to install it, and then I should install it?
I installed the update before I unlocked and rooted once I unlocked and rooted phone I was prompted to uninstall the update so I did after a reboot I was prompted to install update I install it with root and exposed I though it would fail but it didn't and I retained root that's my experience short answer its worth a try
Fixed
As soon as the phone downloaded the newest motorola sensors by itself while restoring itself the uninstall notification went away. I think it's fixed! Thanks!
Just in case it helps anyone. I did what the notification said and revert the sensor firmware. And after the reboot, I updated all moto aps and another notification with an update for the sensors firmware appeared. So... nothing happened at the end. But also, it doesn't matter if you revert the firmware because the update is going to appear later again.

Trying to get my phone ready for Android L

I've decided to get my phone ready to accept the (hopefully soon) OTA update for my 2013 X. Right now it's on 4.4.4, bootloader unlocked (thanks Sunshine!), and rooted. I had it rooted to take advantage of Xposed and Secure Settings with Tasker integration. I also used TitaniumBackup to freeze the Verizon and some Moto apps I never used.
Currently, I have uninstalled every Xposed module I downloaded, then unistalled Xposed itself and finally the Xposed installer app. After that I went into Titanium and defrosted everything that was frozen. Now I have a fair amount of updates coming in from the Play store for all those apps that were frozen. Should I go ahead and update them?
From what I've read, there's been talk on whether or not I have to un-root my phone. I thought I just had to use the toolkit to flash back the stock recovery? That should be the only thing left to do? What about some apps that are device administrators like Cerberus? Do I need to remove them from that list?
Thank you for any advice. I plan on flashing stock recovery when I get home this evening.
Generally speaking an OTA will probably fail if apps it expects to be present are missing or modified in the /system partition. I don't know if having additional items (like Cerberus) will halt the OTA or not. Custom recovery may also interfere with the OTA.
It sounds like you already did all the work, but I personally wouldn't have done any of that until the OTA was actually rolling out. I know they said it will be soon, but it could still be weeks away. I wouldn't give up my phone that was setup how I like it, but that's just my preference.
When the OTA drops, if you try and install it will do all of the validation before it installs anything. If the validation fails, it will tell you it has an error and it won't work. Then you'll have to fix whatever was modified, or reflash the stock firmware to be compatible with the OTA.
I don't believe updating the apps is necessary. I don't even think they need to be active (you can use the Disable function in the App Info screen to hide them), they just need to be present in your /system folder with the correct signature, is how I understand it.

[Q] Rooting and upgrading P7

Hi, it wouldn't surprise me if this has already been answered elsewhere, but I can't seem to find it.
I want to upgrade my P7 because all my music apps just stop at random. I assume it's a firmware problem. It happens with internet radios, Spotify both online and offline etc. I also need to root my phone to get rid of unneeded system apps and prevent apps like Swype from reading my location all the time (google "Swype location requests").
Rooting seems to be straightforward, but will OTA upgrades work afterwards?
EMUI 2.3
Build number P7-L10V100R001C00B133SP01
Custom Version CUSTC432D133SP01
I'm in Norway, if that matters
From someone that had the root before, OTA won't work. You would have to force the update. I'm on 609 and it works perfectly well (well ... I don't use the basic music app as it has some weird characters recognition and it doesn't have a "genre" tab, but Rocket Player doesn't stop randomly and it did when I was on 133, so I guess the update solved the problem). You can still upgrade and root again.
A question which might be out of subject but, what do you use to get rid of the apps and what are the apps that are not dangerous to get rid of?
thanks a lot!
Thanks! I'll look for the procedure on flashing new firmware and rooting it again, I am a little worried about flashing the wrong files and getting a chinese phone
I'll probably use Root Uninstaller to get rid of the weather and music apps, the bundled web browser, Hangouts and stuff like that. If I remember correctly, Root Uninstaller warns you against uninstalling essential system apps. But most importantly I need to be able to keep apps from leaking private data.
So the plan is to first force an upgrade, assuming there is one for my region, then root.

How to stop ota update

I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
Hello,
Curious if are you going to run a custom rom or root and remove apps you don't want?
Tinythejuggalo said:
I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
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Which model do you have? Snapdragon?
Generally you can disable the software update using a Package Disabler from the Play Store, or freeze it using Titanium Backup once rooted. Simply turning off the update option in Settings will not work long-term, as it would eventually update anyways. That's why you need to disable or freeze it.
In developers options you can also turn off auto update system. Usually after you root OTA updates won't function anymore anyway after the device status changes to custom. Or does that not apply for US Snapdragons & SamFail?
Can I temporarily disable it just long enough so I can root. Via samfail
Yes, just go in settings - software updates, there change to download updates manually... Job done: nothing will be updated unless you initiate it yourself...
Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
I have a rooted Galaxy s10+ with android pie. Doesn't freezing "Software Update" system apps of my android by Titanium Backup make booting problems for my device? Is it safe for me to freeze those apps? I ask because I've heard freezing some system apps like "Device Care" stops the device from booting. As other fellas I get ota update notifications and I wanna get rid of them by freezing those apps.
MystaMagoo said:
Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
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I am disabling apps with a package disabler for them to still keep updating! So I have gone back to the method of disabling apps via ADB (no root needed this way)
It uninstalls it for the current user, but a factory reset will bring the app back if so needed. You can uninstall the update app with this method, or any other app for that matter. (Just be careful with what you disable)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...nstall-potentially-unneeded-unwanted-t3731062

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