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[Q] Safe to root 4.4.4 after starting 5.0 update process?

Well, I checked to see if at&t had 5.0 available before noticing that 4.4.4 has a confirmed process for rooting now. It sounds like it's possible to keep root while updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0. So, I'd like to do the 4.4.4 root process before updating. The only issue is at&t doesn't seem to allow you to cancel the update process once started. What are my options for canceling the update / rooting 4.4.4, and updating the OS through other means?

zerophase said:
Well, I checked to see if at&t had 5.0 available before noticing that 4.4.4 has a confirmed process for rooting now. It sounds like it's possible to keep root while updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0. So, I'd like to do the 4.4.4 root process before updating. The only issue is at&t doesn't seem to allow you to cancel the update process once started. What are my options for canceling the update / rooting 4.4.4, and updating the OS through other means?
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It sounds to me that all u did was download the update, because when it installs the phone will shutoff. So just downloading it technically has no effect on your phone. So if ur check onn att galaxy s5 xda u should be able to find what zips u need and how the process works. Muniz ri is the op of the post to root on 4.4.4. god luck

[Q] Confusion about rooting

I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!

slicetwo said:
I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it

Joehen873 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
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Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.

YasharF said:
Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
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Gotcha. I'm not gonna not upgrade simply because root may not be possible yet if it's already 5.0, but that's good to know. Thanks.

[Q] How many times can I OTA before its too late?

Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.

Sowden said:
Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
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If you want root capabilities i wouldn't take any OTA. You'll still have to go back to NCE to root anyhow i believe. As far as the boot loader it is and always has been locked on the AT&T S5. The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE

dirtydodge said:
The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
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Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.

Sowden said:
Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
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Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.

dirtydodge said:
Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.

Sowden said:
Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure on the different slots and bootloader mainly because when i used different slots the battery drain was unbearable. I don't know if they every fixed the battery drain issue when using different slots. It was bad enough that i just stuck to the stock slot and flashed only in that slot.

Return rooted VZW xt1060 4.4 back to stock

Hi,
I rooted my GF's Verizon Moto X on 4.4 like 2 years ago and can't remember how I did it. I feel like it had something to do w/ slapMyMoto or one of those toolkits.
With the announcement of Lollipop finally being released I wanted to return it to stock so It can be updated to 5.1.
Does anyone know how I should go about doing this? Is it as simple as just doing a standard update? through the software update in "about phone" or will that break it without reverting somethign first?
EDIT: when i click on update, it give me the following error "Unfortuantely, com.motorola.vzw.settings.extensions has stopped"
EDIT2: looks like that previous error was because i had some of the updater/OTA apps frozen. It now seems to present me w/ the option to update to 4.4.2. Decided to give it a shot and try to take the OTA. It rebooted and shows the android guy with "installing update" then eventually turned to a "error" android guy and rebooted, so no successful update.
THanks and sorry for the probably dumb question. I've been too spoiled w/ nexus'.

Download the stock firmware and flash it with Moto's fastboot executable, at least if the bootloader is unlocked you can do that. I'm not really sure if it will work with a locked bootloader, but I'd imaging that it wouldn't. I believe that there is a sticky here that even guides one through the process of returning to stock.

Thanks, i did eventually find some info and flashed the stock 4.4 image. After doing so, I was able to take the OTA to 4.4.2. However now that i'm on 4.4.2, it says my "software is up to date" when checking for the 4.4.4 OTA. Anybody have any tips on how to get it to go to 4.4.4?

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530farm said:
Thanks, i did eventually find some info and flashed the stock 4.4 image. After doing so, I was able to take the OTA to 4.4.2. However now that i'm on 4.4.2, it says my "software is up to date" when checking for the 4.4.4 OTA. Anybody have any tips on how to get it to go to 4.4.4?
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it happened with mine too. I uninstalled motorola update service then got the official 4.4.4 OTA update. i hope that works for you too.

Root and upgrade out of country G900A

I'm not very hacky or what you call it, my know-how in this region is not very good, so I'm hoping someone here is able to help me.
When I was in USA I bought myself a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5 (G900A), paid it off and had it service unlocked (called AT&T and they unlocked it for me). Then I went back to Ukraine and now I want to to be rooted... and have lollipop.
I don't know how to upgrade it to lollipop... Kies and the phone says I have the latest firmware and I cant get it updated. On top of that, I've read in posts here that if I update before rooting it, I might be in trouble later on the road.
Towelroot V3 says that my phone is not supported so I can't root it that route...
I've read tutorials here about rooting with the ND3 update... first of all, I don't know what the ND3 update is and how to obtain it since I can't update my phone OTA in Ukraine.
How do I go about this?

More information about my phone (since I learned more information about this process).
Kernel date is Tuesday July 22 2014... towelroot is said to work for any before June 3, 2014... this is probably why my phone isn't supported.
Also, is it true that Android 5.0 removes the SD Card functionality???

Well, I got it rooted... thanks to muniz_ri!
I just went ahead and risked it, not knowing what ND3 or NG3 was.
My next step is flashing it to Android 5+ ... that is if it doesn't remove the SD Card functionality

Well, I found these instructions on flashing my G900A to a pre-rooted stock lollipop... the problem I'm having is with FireFlash... I can't seem to find that app anywhere.

elitezenithweb said:
Well, I found these instructions on flashing my G900A to a pre-rooted stock lollipop... the problem I'm having is with FireFlash... I can't seem to find that app anywhere.
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59959596
SM-G870A Peace

Thank you!!!!!

Wait, I'm confused - you say you were able to downgrade your G900A to a rooted 4.x state? I thought root was impossible once you take the 5.0 update?

TJBilyk said:
Wait, I'm confused - you say you were able to downgrade your G900A to a rooted 4.x state? I thought root was impossible once you take the 5.0 update?
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You can only if you didn't take on the 5.0 OC4 bootloader and kept OA1

I didn't take the 5.0 update since I am out of the country and OTA updates don't come here... but I did have the NG3 update... so I downgraded to ND3, rooted and went back to NG3... then I flashed a prerooted 5.0 stock ROM with OA1 (I think...) and now I'm using it...