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Want to migrate from a Rooted AT&T GS3 to a Rooted AT&T GS5.

I currently have an AT&T Rooted GS3 running 4.1.2 with CWM Recovery. I use Titanium Backup and have schedules to do automated backups 3 times per week (keep last 2 backups of all apps & data). I have Frozen several of the Samsung and AT&T crapware apps. I would like to upgrade to an AT&T GS5. At the end of the process I would like my GS5 to be rooted (need root for Titanium Backup and AutomateIt Pro) with stock TouchWiz and get all my apps and data back that I am currently using on my GS3. I'm looking for input on the best way to accomplish this task.
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Well its really simple. Go to the sticky thread that shows you how to root the S5. Make sure you take the update for the newer firmware, and then download towelroot. Once that's done, just run towelroot and you'll have root access. From there you need to select a ROM. I don't think cwm supports the s5(yet?). Then you'll need to setup your custom recovery and install the ROM. Lastly you'll setup titanium backup the same way.
Or you can just towelroot and then freeze all the bloatware using titanium backup.
Bottom line is: read the sticky. It answers all your questions.

FishenFool said:
I currently have an AT&T Rooted GS3 running 4.1.2 with CWM Recovery. I use Titanium Backup and have schedules to do automated backups 3 times per week (keep last 2 backups of all apps & data). I have Frozen several of the Samsung and AT&T crapware apps. I would like to upgrade to an AT&T GS5. At the end of the process I would like my GS5 to be rooted (need root for Titanium Backup and AutomateIt Pro) with stock TouchWiz and get all my apps and data back that I am currently using on my GS3. I'm looking for input on the best way to accomplish this task.
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You won't be able to run TWRP or CWM on the G900A AT&T S5 you'll have to use Safestrap since the bootloader is locked down tight. Then you'll need to root using this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2862299
If you're just wanting to run stock TBU for freezing and debloat you'll really enjoy the S5 since in my opinion it's quite a step up from the S3 which I was a proud owner of myself.
"You stay classy San Diego"
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Back up all your apps with TiBu. Use root explorer to copy the TiBu folder from your device memory to your external SD. Put sd in S5. Use root explorer to copy back over to phone. Open TiBu hit Menu, reload application so it sees the newly added folder, restore apps. I wouldn't restore data as that causes issues a lot, especially coming to an entirely different phone

So is it even possible to root the S5 the way the S3 was? Does Samsung really want that much control over their phones that you can't kill the bootloader on it?

hoss9009 said:
So is it even possible to root the S5 the way the S3 was? Does Samsung really want that much control over their phones that you can't kill the bootloader on it?
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You cannot root the S5 as you did the S3 it's actually easier depending on the kernel date. When I got my S5 I June I had it rooted and Safestrap installed in about 5 minutes. You don't have to use download mode or anything. It isn't Samsung so much as the carriers that want the bootloader locked down.
"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"
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Install TowelRoot and run it. Depending on phone you may have to Odin an older kernel, root with towel root then Odin newer kernel back on. Takes all of 2mins

lollipop root on G900A discussion

On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.

wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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miller1821 said:
No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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How does this affect our device when it gets the lollipop update?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-beta-lollipop-root-stock-kernel/

wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.

Since I am running dynamic Kat on stock slot right now, I should be safe from updates for now right?
Waiting to see what happens with all this. I did back up my stock rom to an SD card, so I can restore and unroot etc... to get an update if I choose to later.

muniz_ri said:
Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.
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was looking for a post like this. well maybe we might get 5.1 in the next few weeks or sooner so i am sure you will give it a try and a good look and hopefully you will have success in attaining root and a good SS. seems like u da man for this...:good::good:
as for 5.1 or a custom rom...well whose to say what that will bring...
will be waiting to see what happens. will check back here when it comes out. i watch for it everyday and as usual, thank you for all your great work!

miller1821 said:
No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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Not necessarily, just because (if) the S5 gets 5.0 does not mean the ability to root will be lost just go check out the Verizon S5 forums you'll see they have a method for rooting with 5.0 that in theory should work for us as well. again it is recomended to remain on a 4.4.x rom until this has been fully evaluated.
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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My suggestion would be not to take any updates until the root capabilities have been evaluated.
As always, research goes a long way towards alleviating fears and stopping panic attacks before they happen. be patient there are great devs here give them time to work

Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now

the att gs5 doesn't seem like it's getting any updates..

wmunn said:
Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now
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How are you liking it? I'm seriously thinking about doing the same thing.

I have a coworker that just got the Lollipop update for his Note 3 so that means it will be coming to the S5 very soon!

There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.

silentscreamz said:
There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.
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I used that method as well. Sure, it worked for me, but I came from Dynamic Kat, a well debloated stock rom. Due to this, after installing the update using this method, the built-in apps restore function could not complete due to having all of the useless bloatware back, taking up the extra space I was free to use in Dynamic Kat. Even removing the apps that are safe to remove via Titanium Backup doesn't help because the space is reserved for them. I've also already moved every app that it will allow to move to SD card. I've removed unneeded apps. I've gone through my internal storage to remove any unneeded files.
I've removed most of the apps listed here
This doesn't give me the Bluetooth tether that I used to us for my Gear 1(Running Null Rom). I'd look for an app to cover this but... I can't install anything because I've got no space to do so... I hope a good debloat method comes along soon. I still have root, so I'm hopeful.

Yea, bloatware is ridiculous for this phone. Have you tried the Alliance rom, that is what I run and it's not to bad for bloatware but I have only managed to get 5.6 running. Going to try version 8 today sometime. If you like to customize that is an awesome rom.

Hi folks, new to the S5 forums on here as I just upgraded from my trusty S3 on AT&T. I'm still on the stock 4.4.2 firmware, NG3 build, and I'm wondering if I should just root from here using TowelRoot method or take the 4.4.4 OTA and root from there.

Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.

SoCalHTCFuze said:
Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.
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I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.

MetalHead66 said:
I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.
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You gotta downgrade theres a post on here just type it in the search bar. Pretty easy process

Yes. Follow the 4.4.2 how to root thread, it says that bit still works.

OK thanks a bunch. Getting ready to do that now.
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Well that was quite easy and I'm a happy camper now! Just had to flash nd3 kernel with odin in order for TR to work then flash my ng3 kernel. So nice to be able to use TiBu. Helium wouldnt install all my apps. Now I can start freezing and uninstalling all the bloatware!

[Q] Root AT&T galaxy S5 with lollipop

Hi all I'm confused I got a galaxy S5 on Wed with Lollipop already installed. I've read multiple posts and still have one question, "Can this phone be rooted?" I keep finding different answers. If not can I reload an older version of android that can be rooted, I need root for my anti-theft and Titanium Backup. Not to mention root is needed for removing Bloat(crap)ware that Samsung and AT&T install.
Thanks
Zb

ZKornecki said:
Hi all I'm confused I got a galaxy S5 on Wed with Lollipop already installed. I've read multiple posts and still have one question, "Can this phone be rooted?" I keep finding different answers. If not can I reload an older version of android that can be rooted, I need root for my anti-theft and Titanium Backup. Not to mention root is needed for removing Bloat(crap)ware that Samsung and AT&T install.
Thanks
Zb
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As this time, no, the G900A with the completely stock 5.x load can not be rooted.
Since the bootloader is locked, and they bumped one of the counters with the 5.x loader, you can not install a previous version. You're welcome to try but if it fails you will likely have an unrecoverable brick - unless the AT&T Store or Samsung Experience Store has the complete ODIN file to re-flash your device with.
Until someone determines a way of rooting the stock L load, you're stuck without.
Regards.

ZKornecki said:
Hi all I'm confused I got a galaxy S5 on Wed with Lollipop already installed. I've read multiple posts and still have one question, "Can this phone be rooted?" I keep finding different answers. If not can I reload an older version of android that can be rooted, I need root for my anti-theft and Titanium Backup. Not to mention root is needed for removing Bloat(crap)ware that Samsung and AT&T install.
Thanks
Zb
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Im in thesame boat as u. I have been told by a bunch of high ranking devs that it will come its just a matter of time. If u downgrade im almost positive u will end with a very expensive paper weight. Just relax it will come

somebody can check language on 5.0 ? can be enabled multilanguage with language enabler or more locale etc ?

C0derbear said:
As this time, no, the G900A with the completely stock 5.x load can not be rooted
...snip......Until someone determines a way of rooting the stock L load, you're stuck without.
Regards.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I'll wait as I'm sure it's just a matter of time before someone cracks this version or a compatible ROM is published

I only root to get rid of bloatware. While lollipop seems to be handling the ram and battery usage better, it still makes me angry when I see one of those crap apps running that I can't uninstall.
One would think the FCC would make AT&T and others allow this stuff to be uninstalled when the consumer owns the phone.

Kingo root method
just watched a video on WWJOSHDU youtube page, about kingo rooting at&t devices any idea whether that includes the S5 with lollipop?

I found on my wife s5 which I had to unroot and return to stock for warranty when I got the replacement & upgraded to lollipop that in app settings you can disable all the bloat

Doubclub said:
just watched a video on WWJOSHDU youtube page, about kingo rooting at&t devices any idea whether that includes the S5 with lollipop?
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No

Zoey2014 said:
I only root to get rid of bloatware. While lollipop seems to be handling the ram and battery usage better, it still makes me angry when I see one of those crap apps running that I can't uninstall.
One would think the FCC would make AT&T and others allow this stuff to be uninstalled when the consumer owns the phone.
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You can download PackageDisabler.apk and disable all bloatware. It also fixed the "Unauthorized Actions......." recurring prompt after the latest security update by disabling all KNOX related packages.

sm-G900A towelroot help

looking around i can not find anywhere that exactly states what versions of android and on what devices towelroot supports. My question specifically being for the S5 SM-G900A att phone. I am right now on lollipop and i realise i have to downgrade, but I only want to downgrade as little as possible to get towelroot to work. (the end goal being root access of course)
On another note I have two other questions i will ask here so as to not clutter the forum.
1. is there anyway to downgrade my android version without wiping all my data?
if not, any advice on backing up all my data before it gets wiped? mainly my photos, apps, and appdata.
2. I see the only custom recovery i can use is safestrap, i have read is some places that it can not backup your user data (videos, photos, etc.) and nowhere mention it does. question being if this is true and if so how can i back up all my data? i really like the idea of just doing weekly rom backups and being able to restore all my apps and all my data with very little lost (less then a week is good enough for me).

brazblue said:
looking around i can not find anywhere that exactly states what versions of android and on what devices towelroot supports. My question specifically being for the S5 SM-G900A att phone. I am right now on lollipop and i realise i have to downgrade, but I only want to downgrade as little as possible to get towelroot to work. (the end goal being root access of course)
On another note I have two other questions i will ask here so as to not clutter the forum.
1. is there anyway to downgrade my android version without wiping all my data?
if not, any advice on backing up all my data before it gets wiped? mainly my photos, apps, and appdata.
2. I see the only custom recovery i can use is safestrap, i have read is some places that it can not backup your user data (videos, photos, etc.) and nowhere mention it does. question being if this is true and if so how can i back up all my data? i really like the idea of just doing weekly rom backups and being able to restore all my apps and all my data with very little lost (less then a week is good enough for me).
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If you took the OTA update to 5.0 their is currently no way to safely downgrade and root.
Towel root only worked on 4.4.2 kernel.
Safestrap no longer works in 5.0 either.
Just have to hang tight till someone figures out root for stock 5.0.

Thank you for the help, i did not realize it was for 4.4.2 only. (why no list of working versions) as well you say no safe way to downgrade.....are there options or is it impossible? I just got the phone recently and I wasn't the one to update it, I got it second hand and well i can't control what has happened to it before me. sadly it was updated to 5.0
I may attempt a unsafe downgrade if possible, it really depends on what risk levels and if it's risk of doing something wrong and bricking or if there is a risk out of your hands and it may or may not work. else i will just wait and not update my phone in the time being.
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If you took the OTA update to 5.0 their is currently no way to safely downgrade and root.
Towel root only worked on 4.4.2 kernel.
Safestrap no longer works in 5.0 either.
Just have to hang tight till someone figures out root for stock 5.0.
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brazblue said:
Thank you for the help, i did not realize it was for 4.4.2 only. (why no list of working versions) as well you say no safe way to downgrade.....are there options or is it impossible? I just got the phone recently and I wasn't the one to update it, I got it second hand and well i can't control what has happened to it before me. sadly it was updated to 5.0
I may attempt a unsafe downgrade if possible, it really depends on what risk levels and if it's risk of doing something wrong and bricking or if there is a risk out of your hands and it may or may not work. else i will just wait and not update my phone in the time being.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3077652
The above post is the unbrick/downgrade thread for the g900a.
You'll notice it says not to attempt if you've taken the OC4 ota...I'd read through their first. At this point it looks pretty risky.
Good luck either way you go!

i537 custom roms?

I was just given an old i537 5.0.1, to replace a broken S3. I can't stand Samsung's android, so can someone tell me if I can do anything?
I have looked around, and see that the i537's bootloader is locked. Does that mean I can't do any recovery/roms? Am I able to root and purge some of the crap? I have seen something about a program called safestrap, but the main thread of info I can find is "depreciated". Almost everything in this forum is either the I9295 or no exact info.

theredbaron1834 said:
I was just given an old i537 5.0.1, to replace a broken S3. I can't stand Samsung's android, so can someone tell me if I can do anything?
I have looked around, and see that the i537's bootloader is locked. Does that mean I can't do any recovery/roms? Am I able to root and purge some of the crap? I have seen something about a program called safestrap, but the main thread of info I can find is "depreciated". Almost everything in this forum is either the I9295 or no exact info.
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I hate Samsung's version of android (it's called touchwiz) also so it pains me to give you the answer I'm about to give. The locked bootloader means there is no way this phone can have a custom kernel or a custom recovery. Roms like cyanogenmod require a custom kernel to run, there's no way around that. Safestrap was our alternative for a custom recovery to flash stuff, but it only worked on KitKat. Now we have flashfire to flash things, but the fact remains that the only custom ROMs this phone can run are ROMs based off touchwiz, which you and I (and so many others) despise. It is still possible to root this phone and remove the bloatware, see my post here on how to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63639949&postcount=2
Once you're rooted you can use titanium backup to uninstall any system app you want

So, I would use Odin to go to down to 4.4 and root. Then upgrade to 5.0.1 again, and install flashfire.
So that is the best we can hope for on the i537? Damn it man, that sucks quite a lot. Stuipd arse Touchwiz. I am so use to Cyanogenmod, and having to use Touchwiz is really killing me. Ugh.