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I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
H is like 3.5G its a little faster than 3G bit still not 4G. E or edge is 2G.
You can check in the settings of most apps itself how frequently they auto update
As far as moving apps go you can go to setting then apps and choose where the app is, except for system apps.
To close apps and not have them run in the background you have to long press the home button and then swipe the app you want to close
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ottawayd said:
I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
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H is the fastest internet you'll get on your note, the downside of it is that it drains the battery pretty fast. As for me, I switch to it when I want to load YouTube videos, download lots of data and similar. You can download a "3G switch" widget from Google Play to quickly jump between H(3G) and EDGE(the E symbol, slower internet, but much better battery life)
By turning off the automatic sync, you save a lot of data and battery life, you can do that via Settings > Accounts and Sync. Personally, I find it better to manually refresh my email and similar when I need it, but it's your decision.
Since Note has a massive internal memory, you should keep all apps installed to the internal memory rather than the SD card, for the fastest experience, since none of the apps need to load from the slower SD card.
Android handles processes very well by itself so there is no need to manually "kill" apps. If you wish to end some unresponsive ones, you can get SystemPanel Task manager from the Google Play store, it's pretty good.
Feel free to PM me for any further questions
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ottawayd said:
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
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besides turning the global sync off, you can:
- check the betterbatterystats thread, it may seem confusing at first, but it's worth the effort
- disable gps location
- in all internet apps (e.g. facebook, rss readers, weather etc. ) turn the automatic updates off (or set to every 8/16/24hr)
- if you feel brave, check either autostarts or autorun manager in the market (both apps paid) - based on trial and error you can disable triggers which make apps to autostart, without damaging their functionality
- avoid taskkillers
- check lama (also on market, free), you can set it to do a lot of things, like turn wifi on when you're at home and switch to mobile when not, turn sync and internet off when screen is of etc. etc.
Hello... just want to share my list of frozen apks/services on JB.
If you think that something is risky or some apk's to add on list please do so...
With Nova-launcher i have now around 400MB free and phone is speedy.
Code:
AAT
Application Manager
Backup
Camera Test
Cell broadcast
Chrome
com.lge.appbox.bridge
com.lge.appbox.remote
com.lge.defaultaccount
com.lge.internal
com.lge.lgdrm.permission
com.lge.lgfota.permission
com.lge.permission
DmFAdmin
Downloads
DRM Service
DRM-Protected Content Storage
E-mail
E-mail widget
Face Unlock
Favorites Contact Widget
Google+
Home Theme - biz
Home Theme - Cozywall
Home Theme - Marshmallow
LG MLT
LgInstallService
LGSystemServer
Live Wallpaper Picker
Maps
Media Home
Memo Widget
Music Widget
NFC Service
On Screen Phone
PC Suite Service
PC Suite UI
Picasa Uploader
QSlide Framework
QuickMemo
REmote support Service
RemoteCall Service
SIM Toolkit
Smart Log Service
SmartShare
Software update
Streaming Player
Street View
SystemBackupService
Tags
Talk
TalkBack
VpnDialogs
Weather
WeatherTheme_Optimus_Still
You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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@lbert said:
You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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Actually i dont play games at all using for internet, camera, music and phone. =)
@lbert said:
You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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Cant remove some apps , even using Lidroid + Rooted phone. i remove apps , reboot phone , and apps come back from limbo. any ideas ?
fmgeraldine said:
Cant remove some apps , even using Lidroid + Rooted phone. i remove apps , reboot phone , and apps come back from limbo. any ideas ?
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Titanium backup?
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alekthefirst said:
Titanium backup?
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here is my preferred set of apps for the rooted phone
1. Avast Security: Firewall to block certain apps from accessing the internet! And general protection.
2. NoBloat Free: Used in removing the above mentioned apps. Helps to safely backup the apk file and delete it so that we can restore them back later if the need arises.
3. ROM Toolbox Lite: Could be used for many a purpose. But at present I use it to block the ads and prevent autorun services.
4. GSam Battery Monitor: Monitoring battery stats.
5. DS Battery Saver: - My phone never went into deep sleep. With this app it forced the CPU to enter deep sleep whenever screen goes off.
6. LagFix Free: Just like defragmentation in Windows system. Increases read speed of SD card
7. Clean Master: Great task killer, cache cleaner and history wiper. I use it to kill apps on screen off.
8. One Power Guard: Underclock my CPU to certain range. AI mode automatically switches profile. Helps in quicker charging of the battery and also in safe cleaning battery draining background apps.
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Titanium backup?
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Uninstall Master remove all for me ... T Y Guys
If you really want to disable all that i think you are gonna miss some things.. !
Don't uninstall com.lge.internal or your widgets break and everything goes retarded.
uninstalling one or more of these has severe negative side effects. freezing does nothing negative to your comp, but uninstalling totaly borked my phone, wouldn't even boot up.
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uninstalling one or more of these has severe negative side effects. freezing does nothing negative to your comp, but uninstalling totaly borked my phone, wouldn't even boot up.
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dude read the post it say my list f Freeze app no the list to uninstall
If i may add some other apps to this list.
You can also use "SetCPU" (if you don't use "ROM Toolbox" it underclocks the CPU (to what you set it to) to save battery power
rhapsodize4452 said:
here is my preferred set of apps for the rooted phone
1. Avast Security: Firewall to block certain apps from accessing the internet! And general protection.
Use "Root Firewall" instead, anti-virus apps prove very little need on android, so why use a very resource hogging anti-virus app to manage your firewall.
2. NoBloat Free: Used in removing the above mentioned apps. Helps to safely backup the apk file and delete it so that we can restore them back later if the need arises.
Use "Root Uninstaller instead. In my opinion better looks and more options in one app
3. ROM Toolbox Lite: Could be used for many a purpose. But at present I use it to block the ads and prevent autorun services.
4. GSam Battery Monitor: Monitoring battery stats.
If you just wan't to monitor wakelocks, you can use "Wakelock Detector" instead too.
5. DS Battery Saver: - My phone never went into deep sleep. With this app it forced the CPU to enter deep sleep whenever screen goes off.
Very good and handy app
6. LagFix Free: Just like defragmentation in Windows system. Increases read speed of SD card
7. Clean Master: Great task killer, cache cleaner and history wiper. I use it to kill apps on screen off.
8. One Power Guard: Underclock my CPU to certain range. AI mode automatically switches profile. Helps in quicker charging of the battery and also in safe cleaning battery draining background apps.
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do you guys think lg system server is really safe to freeze?
Dele it if you want I have no problem without it
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Thanks for the list. Here's a tiny glitch I've noticed while deleting these apps (yes, I deleted them). My phone (LG Optimus L4 II E440) worked perfectly, booted with no problems whatsoever, all of the functions were normal except that my home button led was constantly on. I've tried re-flashing it and then removed the apps, but unfortunately with the same consequences. When I restored "LGSystemServer" the glitch somehow disappeared: I have no idea whether it was somehow related to the removal of the abovementioned app, just thought it would be interesting to mention. Thanks.
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
Update #1:
-Coming soon!
Test #1:
Using the above information in post #1 I was able to get 32 Hours 15 Min (1 d 8 h 14 m 54 s) with 6 Hours Screen On Time! Check screen shots below for the proof, and comment below to the awesomeness! I will be doing a new test with the updates coming to the OP!
Test Subject:
-Check the attached BetterBatteryStats log for complete info!
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
-ROM: [NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
can you post up some screen shots of your battery life / stats?
I'm on stock, rooted, bloat is frozen. I'm using grernify for games and other apps I don't use regularly or don't rely on for push notifications. I use adaway for ad blocking.
with just those steps taken, and using the phone as a smartphone, I can easily get 20+ hours off charger and a screen use of 5 hours.
I understand what you're trying to do here but what is the point of diminishing returns?
I have gotten around the 18 hour mark, but out of the box I was only getting around 12. I will try getting an accurate screenshot and try out a few other settings. Our batteries may vary slightly I'm sure, and at some point I bet there are diminishing returns like with underclocking. I will test it out and report back
Thanks for the input @Russ77
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Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
kalans said:
Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
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Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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GDofWR420 said:
Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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I'm at 4 hours 17 minutes screen use and have 42% battery remaining. I'll easily surpass 7 hours of screen use and probably 20 hours total battery.
when idle on mobile signal my phone consumes about 1%/hr. if I wasn't playing couch potato today (its 107 outside) and was doing stuff I'd use around 6 hours of screen time and could go 30 hours total battery time.
this is all with no battery saving measures taken other than greenifying all banking and game apps.
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.."
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Yes, to play devil's advocate here:
The apps and tweaks are going to make some difference, but it's more about how you use your phone, rather than doing a bunch of tweaks and modifications, which many of us have done at some point or another (the same tweaks but maybe with different apps and Roms).
I've seen posts around here talking about getting 3 and 4 days average, and sometimes 5 days of battery, and I always say that's because you all don't use your phone that much.
It's all about how you use your phone. I only get up to 48 hours with moderate use; that's terrible battery life by the standards around here; and with heavy use, with my brightness cranked up because I like my colors pretty and bright, and with consistently playing games all day, I'm only getting about 4 and a half hours screen on time. That battery life might be 7 hours or 2 full days, depending on how much else I'm doing with the phone.
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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kalans said:
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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Oh, I don't doubt the 54 hours battery life. Like I said, the apps and tweaks are going to make some difference. But it all depends on how you use your phone. I'm not going to get 54 hours battery, even if I use your phone because of what I do. I'm playing games, or streaming radio, or watching movies or Youtube, and that's not all day, and with my screen bright.
Just me personally, I don't like to worry too much about how much battery life I'm getting. When I start doing that, then I find myself going out my way and doing things different (such as frequently checking the battery stats and stretching the phone's downtime) like I would not normally do, trying to see how much battery that I can actually get, instead of just enjoying the phone as I would normally use it.
When I had my old HTC Evo a few years back, I was doing everything that you're doing, and then some (as you can find several of these threads for every phone), trying to get every little ounce of juice that I could out that miserable battery. Same type apps and Roms, just different names. I had apps that turned off Wifi, data, bluetooth, and even crashed the phone once in a while. I actually got used to turning my screen brightness all the way down so that I could barely see anything. And it was great having a Rom so de-bloated, that I got a chance to find out what was missing when I got lost driving and needed directions. Yeah, it made a difference in the battery all right.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I would Recommend you to use Hibernate App no need of root
Hibernate App
Running @cstayton bo3 Kool kit active rom and have phenomenal battery life. No spare apps here. Turned on power save mode at 18%.
Watched two episodes of dexter, a little over half an hour on dead space, 4 short phone calls, a hand full of text and a few hours on the Web and using the xda app.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I was/am having some issue importing the events for Llama I was wondering if I am doing something wrong or...? Is there a specific way of importing it?
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
shortydoggg said:
1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
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How many cores does it under clock
Having a problem in which app or task reappears in the foreground after pressing the Home button. Also, if I tap the recent apps button, the list of apps appears and then just as quickly brings the most recent app into the foreground automatically again. It happens so quickly that the "x" for closing the apps in the list doesn't even have a chance to appear or let me swipe them away.
Something else that seems to happen along with this problem is that parts of any given app start freezing (i.e. unresponsive links, menu options, etc) while other parts of the app can be tapped/pressed. For example, if I'm in the android settings menu, I may not be able to select one option in a list but I can select the option right above it. This appears to be totally random. If I back out of that menu and/or clear the app from the app list, I can go back and select that same menu option just fine.
This seems to only have started after I added a second user on the phone. I guess it could be that the phone doesn't have enough memory to handle both users, but why would ANDROID then build that feature into it's phone OS?
Fixes I've tried so far (based on extensive research on forums and web search):
Restarting the phone - works temporarily but the issue(s) returns within minutes.
Clearing the phone's cache - no difference
Clearing app cache for each app - no difference
Uninstalling unneeded apps - no difference
Disabling bloatware - no difference
Clearing Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Turning off Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Factory reset, reinstalled from backup - temporary fix, problem eventually returned
Factory reset, setup both users from scratch - temporary fix, problem eventually returned.
I have a Moto X xt1097, Android 5.1 stock, non-rooted
Any help or responses appreciated!
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Having a problem in which app or task reappears in the foreground after pressing the Home button. Also, if I tap the recent apps button, the list of apps appears and then just as quickly brings the most recent app into the foreground automatically again. It happens so quickly that the "x" for closing the apps in the list doesn't even have a chance to appear or let me swipe them away.
Something else that seems to happen along with this problem is that parts of any given app start freezing (i.e. unresponsive links, menu options, etc) while other parts of the app can be tapped/pressed. For example, if I'm in the android settings menu, I may not be able to select one option in a list but I can select the option right above it. This appears to be totally random. If I back out of that menu and/or clear the app from the app list, I can go back and select that same menu option just fine.
This seems to only have started after I added a second user on the phone. I guess it could be that the phone doesn't have enough memory to handle both users, but why would ANDROID then build that feature into it's phone OS?
Fixes I've tried so far (based on extensive research on forums and web search):
Restarting the phone - works temporarily but the issue(s) returns within minutes.
Clearing the phone's cache - no difference
Clearing app cache for each app - no difference
Uninstalling unneeded apps - no difference
Disabling bloatware - no difference
Clearing Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Turning off Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Factory reset, reinstalled from backup - temporary fix, problem eventually returned
Factory reset, setup both users from scratch - temporary fix, problem eventually returned.
I have a Moto X xt1097, Android 5.1 stock, non-rooted
Any help or responses appreciated!
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The answer is simple, it is caused by your second user.
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AGISCI said:
The answer is simple, it is caused by your second user.
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Well, I considered that as PART of the issue, sure. But isn't Android 5.1 supposed to support multiple users? If so, what about having a second user is causing the issue?
More info. I set up the second user for my business, using a separate Gmail account; minimal apps under that user (mostly Google's business products). I kept getting the two accounts mixed up when both were logged in under the same user.
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Well, I considered that as PART of the issue, sure. But isn't Android 5.1 supposed to support multiple users? If so, what about having a second user is causing the issue?
More info. I set up the second user for my business, using a separate Gmail account; minimal apps under that user (mostly Google's business products). I kept getting the two accounts mixed up when both were logged in under the same user.
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It does "support" it. But you must remember that everything is shared, memory, storage, processor, and network, so the phone is a limit. The better the phone, the better it works.
Even when you are not using the other account it is using all of those things in the background, it checks for emails, google play updates, and if you installed apps those apps run in the background even while you are on the other user.
It is an Android feature yes, but for example our phone only has 2GB of memory which most likely ran out from so much usage.
Personally I have 2 phones, one for business and my personal phone.
I don't know if this is true, but maybe android 6.0 would get better performance thanks to Doze. Maybe the other user account gets put into Doze mode to save resources. Just a thought, but I am only guessing.
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It does "support" it. But you must remember that everything is shared, memory, storage, processor, and network, so the phone is a limit. The better the phone, the better it works.
Even when you are not using the other account it is using all of those things in the background, it checks for emails, google play updates, and if you installed apps those apps run in the background even while you are on the other user.
It is an Android feature yes, but for example our phone only has 2GB of memory which most likely ran out from so much usage.
Personally I have 2 phones, one for business and my personal phone.
I don't know if this is true, but maybe android 6.0 would get better performance thanks to Doze. Maybe the other user account gets put into Doze mode to save resources. Just a thought, but I am only guessing.
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OK, I was afraid of that. It makes sense though.
I also noticed that the problem only occurs in the second user profile but not my original user profile; I'm guessing that this is because the Android OS gives the original user priority access to resources at any given moment. Or maybe the first user profile is more resource intensive. Just a guess really.
Well, I don't have money for a second phone right now. I'll have to figure out another way to keep those accounts more easily separated.
Thank you again for your help AGISCI!
Rather than running two user accounts you can run 2 Google accounts as a single user. Hence, all your Google business apps work is saved under your business Gmail account. I've been using it this way for years with little effect on phone resources.
kboya said:
Rather than running two user accounts you can run 2 Google accounts as a single user. Hence, all your Google business apps work is saved under your business Gmail account. I've been using it this way for years with little effect on phone resources.
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Thanks kboya. That's actually how I started out, but it started getting tricky keeping accounts straight (i.e. chrome would keep defaulting to my personal account instead of my business account when I was signing up for different services, etc.). So, I thought the 2nd user idea would solve it nicely; still would if I could get hardware to support it.
Fair play. IMO multiple users was meant for tablets (less sensor and signal stress) and those with kids who only run games. It'll do what you want, but only at a pinch, a 6P might manage it better.
Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.
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Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.
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Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.
A 'Sleeping App' is useful for conserving battery. Apps like Email or Facebook are always awake and connected to the internet checking for new messages, notifications, comments, etc. and this consumes more battery. The downside to putting an app to sleep however, is that it won't show notifications and alert you of new messages, comments, likes, etc. until you manually open the app itself and all notifications will come flooding in at once.
An App kept in RAM simply allows it to be opened and resumed from the last point it was used. This saves a little CPU and Battery but not much difference in our modern and high powered devices.
If you have maximum amount of Apps in RAM, than the phone automatically closes the oldest opened app to make room for the new one. So this option is simply a personal preference without much impact on CPU and Battery.
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Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.
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Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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Yes, but sleep also involves restricting background processes which could otherwise be running and draining battery. That's a different consideration compared to whether an app is stored in ram or not, which is why I said they are not quite the same thing.
Well I close apps cause some apps draw a lot more power then others. I installed a audio recorder on my pixel o wanted to record audio at a concert. It drained the battery on my phone which had a full charge before I had a chance to use it so less apps the better. I guess it's all the matter what app are runnonf
Thank you all for the answers
What about greenify? What the difference between hibernation mode and sleep mode?
If app greenify it should add to "Unmonitored apps" in Device maintenance?
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