heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
btw, you can check in the battery stats page. just press on the graph, and it takes you to another page.
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heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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I can also confirm this. Even with everything turned off, I still get notifications of available WiFi networks. ???
I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
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I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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real battery drain i didnt notice either
If WiFi is off in settings and it still shows I think its a bug, because if you check it with gsam it shows it being off. A reboot with WiFi off when you reboot will fix it. I had the same thing on my m8 and now with this device also. Its a lollipop bug.
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if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
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Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ben_pyett said:
Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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i dont know how the nfc is connected either. but i do know, if all else fails, it works
I know that whenever I flash a new ROM, and get it booted up and then turn off WiFi that according to batt stats its still on. If you reboot it removes the signature from stats and it will show as it should.
I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
bill3508 said:
Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
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Fair enough. Like i said I only recall that by turning down location accuracy and turning off wifi on my N5 the device finally stopped reporting WiFi usage. On my N6 I have WiFi and high accuracy location on all the time so didn't realise there was a false reporting issue til seeing this thread. Hope it gets fixed in a future update I guess.
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simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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I'm seeing the same dang thing, my first thoughts were the WiFi only when plugged in or never, and then Google Location Services (making it device only), never thought NFC could be the culprit. I don't use it either, but I'd hate to think this feature that Google has been trying to push is putting WiFi on all the time, irrespective of if it's draining the battery.
I'm going to move the file from system and see how it goes.
Wouldn't freezing it yield the same outcome though? If yes, it'd be a slightly easier step for some.
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can anyone confirm that this does or does not work on our phone? I heard it doesn't work for CDMA
Works fine on CDMA however I can't get it to work on this phone. It starts fine and set up goes fine but then it will randomly turn itself off. May be a memory issue I'm not sure.
I've been running the beta, and have had no issues.
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Why not download it and find out?
ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
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ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
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I just turn it on. Last night my phone was idle for 9 hours, and only lost 1% battery.
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Last night w/ juice defender, off charger. Nothing else. Lol.
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The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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mackeydesigns said:
The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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It is, doesn't affect it.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Could be true, could be false, that's sorta the problem.
Either way, I'll look into it.
I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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Please check settings before posting. In the paid version you can set specific programs to always have access when running. I believe it is also in the beta for free.
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Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
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Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
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Is the version you stated the beta?
Disregard the question, lol, re-read your post.
I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
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I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
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As with any app, different phones play differently with them. I hear from some that things don't work, when they run as intended on my phone. This will always be the case.
I can say absolutely that Juice Defender Beta works without a problem on my device, and I have tested it extensively. It does what it should without issues or problems.
That obviously isn't the case for everyone. I will suggest that before someone blast a well written app publicly and possibly discourage someone who might benefit from it from trying it out, that they contact the developer with their issues and see if there is a known conflict or bug. I have resolved issues with apps like this many times, and almost always it was something on my end that fixed it, not the app itself.
Daswolven, I agree with you completely. Learned that with my Droid1 with the overclock speeds and voodoo with this phone, some things just don't work properly on your particular handset. I took the time to understand what this app does and it is extremely powerful. The best way to find out what's good for you is to try it. On a side note, I have been harassing the makers of Beautiful Widgets about the fc issue with our phones. I think they actually took care of it with the last update because I haven't had one in a while haha.
I've also done research on another app called BatteryFu which is suppose to be a "lean and mean" battery saver, compared to JD. Toby Kurien, the author of BatteryFu, claims that JD is bloated and ended up using memory and battery - against what it's suppose to accomplish. One of the biggest battery drain is mobile connectivity. JD and BatteryFu intelligently and transparently manages this essentially enabling it when you need it and disabling it when you don't. On the Fascinate, other than switching to airplane mode, mobile data connection cannot be disabled according to Toby. So this renders those battery saver apps useless. Perhaps turning off the Background Data would slightly help but it is needed by the Android Market so you'll have to turn it on when you need to access the market. You can also try setting up multiple APN's. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this on the Fascinate. My friend has a Vibrant and you can go to SETTINGS -> MOBILE NETWORKS -> APN. The Fascinate doesn't have APN under MOBILE NETWORKS. Maybe someone here has a workaround.
I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
huh? mobile radio active? whats that, a wakelock?
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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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I was wondering why my battery life was horrible since updating.
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I had this issue on 5.0, 5.01, and now 5.1. Been with it the whole time. I've tried different radios and clean flashes and wipes. Nothing is getting rid of it. When you search google there are some people with the same issue but nothing major which leads me to believe some things wrong with my phone and/or there's something causing this and it isn't normal.
I've never seen this
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I've never seen this
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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That was mine too and what I did when I flashed 5.1
One issue I have is with the Facebook app and I believe that is causing a lot of my battery drain when not on WiFi. In a recent update Facebook removed the option to not automatically update news feed. Now I believe it refreshes very often causing massive drain.
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tysonwald said:
I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
No way it's normal. I use chrome beta and it clocked over 3 hours of Mobile Radio Active today. I still got great battery life, but when Chrome Beta takes 20% and your screen takes 10%, something is wrong. It's not continuously updating as someone above suggested. It's a bug. The mobile radio is being kept active for no reason by seemingly random apps. I really hope someone figures out how to fix this.
Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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No one has even confirmed it is a problem yet. Unlikely anyone is working on it.
At first, I was thinking this was app related, but after looking at all my background and running apps, it seems they all have this "bug". However, mine don't seem to be running that as long, which in turn isn't showing a big battery drain. Hence the fact that I never noticed it.
I am guessing that it is some wakelock that is set by the app, but all apps that connect to the internet are using it. However, I looked on my flo which is running BrokenOs 5.0.1 and it doesn't have this mobile radio active process. I will be updating it to BrokenOs 5.1.0 here in a bit to see if it appears. If not, then we can limit it to just the shamu. If that is the case, then we just need to locate it, probably in the kernel, and decide what to do with it...
I'll follow up with my findings later...
I hope there is a solution!
For me it is the problem with Android 5 or the nexus 6. although i dont think it is a problem with the nexus 6. After my recognition are different models (nexus 4, 5, some Samsung devices, moto x...) affected after updating to lollipop.
I have also test different (stock-)roms/ different kernels/ disabled some services/ tested different radios/ factory resets and freezed some system- or deinstalled all 3rd Party apps/ changed the messenger...
No problem in wlan but with 4g/3g is the value of mobile radio active to high that some "apps" (gpservices, android os, hangouts, telegram, sometimes chrome) now are on top of the battery stats. With bbs or wld i cant find the reason.
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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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There is nothing to see when some apps on top of the battery stats (with 3g/4g) because of the high mobile radio active? Why are this value not so high on other devices with KitKat and then higher with lollipop?
Being connected to wifi for a period of time may help reveal more info.
Also, try using a whitelist firewall to only allow apps that you need to allow data. Or even block all traffic for a while and see what happens.
You could even block traffic on only cellular, and let only wifi pass traffic.
Another thing to verify would be whether airplane mode (wifi could be on) indeed causes the issue to completely go away as one would expect.
[Bug?] WiFi battery drain on 6.0 & 6.0.1 and workaround (Fixed since April MOB30D)
Google fixed this in 6.0.1 (edit : you still need to disable wifi scan in location setting edit2: Google fixed this in April MOB30D so update to any release after April'16 to get rid of this bug from source :good: )along with instant quick setting wifi connect & many more ! So update to 6.0.1 asap. (System less root 2.61+ & Xposed v78+ is working on 6.0.1 so don't worry about it )
Edit 2: Some people are facing battery drain due Google play services (9.x.xxx) which is not anyway related to this bug present in rom. Still here is work around for you
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Unfortunately I still get the Wifi bug and I am on the July patch. I remember it disappeared in the May patch but reappeared in the June patch. The way I solve it is just to restart the device every day.
But I do think it may have something to do with Play Services as I do see that often as the app consuming a lot of battery
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Then it's Not wifi bug due to ROM..it's entirely related to Play Service.
Work around for it is to disable 4 receivors indicated in below post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67254249&postcount=922
PS: u can use free tool, "My android tools" from playstore.
& disable these 4 things under "RECIEVER" tab from play services
PS: some people claims that it was related to Google Connectivity Service ,but i had it disabled all the time in 6.0 & still drain was gone for me. So i believe it's not actually related to it, after all Google connectivity services is only needed for "Project Fi" (available only in USA) other ppl can simply disable it
Edit: reported to Google (with new screen shots )...here->
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=189018
If you are also seeing this bug kindly report it in about link and star that issue as well
Workaround :
Well after using phone for entire 3 charging cycles with different settings I think main problem for this is "WiFi always scan" in location setting..many users reported how to turn it off in comments (thanks )
If you still facing this problem...
Go to Settings>Location>Scanning(top right)>Wifi Scanning ( disable it ) & Bluetooth Scanning (disable it as well)
if bug appers after few days, 1st check your "WiFi scanning" in Location again (turn it off if it's on ) it starts automatically after using navigation (randomly) !
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In most cases this will solve the problem..but if you are still seeing much battery drain
Then change your Location Setting to Device only ( or you can entirely disable it if you don't relay on Location base Google Now cards )
If all of above fails Wiping Cache In Stock Recovery or Changing WiFi band in WiFi advance setting, also helps in some extreme cases ( as reported by some users )
here is video by @isrmicha for the same steps if you can't figure-out from pics,
One more thing I have noticed is Quick setting tile takes much time (15-20seconds) to connected WiFi unless we open "more settings " by clicking on down Aero on tile...in this case it will connect instantly....if you are facing this as well then do above to connect instantly
(I think Google disabled instant scanning for wifi on QS toggle..so it takes some time for scanning available networks after Turing on wifi) (Fixed in 6.0.1)
Click below to see what's the problem with scanning ON, if you are still not aware of it
1st of all i'm fully stock...and i'm very impressed with battery life on 6.0...personally I never got SOT for than 4 hrs on Lollipop but on M it's been almost 4 and half hr and still 23% remaining so overall battery life is much improved for me and DOZE is doing it's work excellently (without any interference )
But the problem is as per stats WiFi is biggest battery drainer for me it shows about 53% use and Power used by it is also too much...i have never seen this much uses of WiFi ! It's more than Drain by Screen On
So is this some kind of bug or just different calculation method ? Seeing overall improved battery life I'm confused to call it bug :silly:
Does seem quite high, even though you're getting better battery than previously. During 'normal usage' of the device, Screen ON should always be the biggest consumer.
A few things you could check / confirm and be more thorough / logical:
- Your WiFi appears always on. During this time, is it actually connected to a network, or do you always leave it on regardless? If it's actually connected to WiFi, does this usage occur on a single network, or multiple different networks?
- Do you also have "Scanning always available" enabled (In WiFi screen, Menu-> Advanced). If so, try turning it off and changing nothing else, does it make a difference?
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Does seem quite high, even though you're getting better battery than previously. During 'normal usage' of the device, Screen ON should always be the biggest consumer.
A few things you could check / confirm and be more thorough / logical:
- Your WiFi appears always on. During this time, is it actually connected to a network, or do you always leave it on regardless? If it's actually connected to WiFi, does this usage occur on a single network, or multiple different networks?
- Do you also have "Scanning always available" enabled (In WiFi screen, Menu-> Advanced). If so, try turning it off and changing nothing else, does it make a difference?
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1. That's what I was thinking..screen % should always more than anything else ( atleast when we are "actually" using phone)
2. No my WiFi wasn't always on I turned it off/on many times but it's not present in SS..that's weird ( set I forgot to Mentioned it in OP)
And I was connected to 2 different wifi networks only (1st 2-3 hrs after charging I was connected to hotspot..then for 7-8 hrs I turned off WiFi toggle before going to bed (but SS shows WiFi on in this time also !!! So it's definitely a bug)
3. There is no option to advance wifi setting to turn always scan off ( I know it was in lollipop but it's not present in M..I checked it twice )
Btw how to take a bug report ? "Take a bug report" is disabled in developer option & there is no way to turn it on (atleast I can't find it)
My battery it <5% now and I want to take bug report before putting it in charging so if someone know how to turn on bug report option plz reply fast
Edit: okay just took bug report ( I didn't enable usb debugging before ) ...now tell me how to report this bug to Google
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3. There is no option to advance wifi setting to turn always scan off ( I know it was in lollipop but it's not present in M..I checked it twice )
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No idea then. I've never used M, just expected that same setting to still be there. Maybe it's buried / hidden somewhere else?
The other possibility, in the initial setup screens when you first set up the phone, did you enable the equivalent feature? Normally a check box saying that Google will scan even when WiFi is off. This is the only other thing I can think of which shows WiFi on even though you physically turned it off.
Edit: okay just took bug report ( I didn't enabled usb debugging before ) ...now tell me how to report this bug to Google
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No idea either, Google it . If you're fully stock with zero mods (or even other apps to be sure), it does seem like a strange bug.
My Wifi is one of the lowest, 1%, 17 mah and almost 8 hours of use
I do not have this issue, WiFi is currently 6th on my list in battery. Now, having said that, I have WiFi on all the time as signal is bad at work and I don't use my phone a lot so I've currently got 1 day 20hrs life remaining...I don't believe it's an issue but this is only my first full day with 6.0
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My Wifi is one of the lowest, 1%, 17 mah and almost 8 hours of use
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EddyOS said:
I do not have this issue, WiFi is currently 6th on my list in battery. Now, having said that, I have WiFi on all the time as signal is bad at work and I don't use my phone a lot so I've currently got 1 day 20hrs life remaining...I don't believe it's an issue but this is only my first full day with 6.0
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huh ! this is strange
what's your "location settings" ( i put it on high accuracy but i don't think it affect wifi drain :silly: )
and just to conform you are on official Marshmallow right ?
Edit : actually they merged my issue with one already present from Nexus 6 so i think many have this issues in M
Always scan settings are located in the location menu.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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Always scan settings are located in the location menu.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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i disabled it on 1st boot up....btw is it same as WiFi scan in lollipop ? i though it's different and only related to Location.
anyway it was disabled all the time so it shouldn't be issue ( unless people disabled it are the only one getting this WiFi drain...if this case let me know )
jineshpatel30 said:
huh ! this is strange
what's your "location settings" ( i put it on high accuracy but i don't think it affect wifi drain :silly: )
and just to conform you are on official Marshmallow right ?
Edit : actually they merged my issue with one already present from Nexus 6 so i think many have this issues in M
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Of course I am on Marshmallow, location is set on device only (GPS)
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Of course I am on Marshmallow, location is set on device only (GPS)
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okay..and what about WiFi always scan in location setting (advance) ? i turned it off on 1st boot...if you have it turned on i'll change it & check if that's the cause or not
Well, its known that if you leave wifi range and then turn off wifi it will still count as on in the battery stats. Since lollipop. Maybe it is being counted differentely(this word exist ? ) now
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
To repeat and clarify what others have said above, it looks like the "always scan" setting has been moved from Settings/Wi-Fi/(overflow)/Advanced to Settings/Location/(overflow)/Scanning.
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Well, its known that if you leave wifi range and then turn off wifi it will still count as on in the battery stats. Since lollipop. Maybe it is being counted differentely(this word exist ? ) now
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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but i didn't leave wifi range at all ! plus i turn off wifi for 8-9 hrs & this lap is also not present in battery statistic
and Sorry for *differentely it's differently
Were you tethering at all? My Wifi is second on my list and the only thing I have done is test some wifi tethering about a half hour ago. I haven't even used WiFi at all today. I don't use it at work. I have not disabled the scanning option either.
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okay..and what about WiFi always scan in location setting (advance) ? i turned it off on 1st boot...if you have it turned on i'll change it & check if that's the cause or not
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Did the same, turned off first boot. Did you factory reset before flashing Marshmallow?
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Did the same, turned off first boot. Did you factory reset before flashing Marshmallow?
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yes and also completely clean install ( wipe data, system & even internal storage i know it's not needed but i didn't want to take any chance )
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Were you tethering at all? My Wifi is second on my list and the only thing I have done is test some wifi tethering about a half hour ago. I haven't even used WiFi at all today. I don't use it at work.
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no wan't tethering.
i just changed my location setting to device only and turned of both Bluetooth & wifi scan in Location>advance setting ( you can also try this if your settings are different )
let's see how it turns out
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3. There is no option to advance wifi setting to turn always scan off ( I know it was in lollipop but it's not present in M..I checked it twice
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Really?
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Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Try a factory rest, fixes 99% of issues.
turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.
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Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Only out of place thing I see is that your screen was on at some points but the phone wasn't saying it was awake. That leads me to believe there's a kernel wakelock issue because I had the same thing but on 5.1. The issue turned out for me to be a wakelock called bluesleep which is related to bluetooth and it came about from an app called gasbuddy which silently updated to provide support for bluetooth "beacons" at gas stations to give you deals or some crap like that. If you're rooted you can install BetterBatteryStats to test for kernel wakelocks, you can test for bluesleep wakelock by just turning off bluetooth and seeing if the drain/weird screen-on not awake thing happens, and long press power off to start the phone in safe mode to narrow down whether its a system issue or installed app issue and if rooted use an app freezer like Titanium Backup to freeze your installed apps a few at a time to narrow down what app(s) are causing it(so you don't have to uninstall/reinstall trial and error).
StykerB said:
Only out of place thing I see is that your screen was on at some points but the phone wasn't saying it was awake. That leads me to believe there's a kernel wakelock issue because I had the same thing but on 5.1. The issue turned out for me to be a wakelock called bluesleep which is related to bluetooth and it came about from an app called gasbuddy which silently updated to provide support for bluetooth "beacons" at gas stations to give you deals or some crap like that. If you're rooted you can install BetterBatteryStats to test for kernel wakelocks, you can test for bluesleep wakelock by just turning off bluetooth and seeing if the drain/weird screen-on not awake thing happens, and long press power off to start the phone in safe mode to narrow down whether its a system issue or installed app issue and if rooted use an app freezer like Titanium Backup to freeze your installed apps a few at a time to narrow down what app(s) are causing it(so you don't have to uninstall/reinstall trial and error).
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Wow thanks for that, I actually use GasBuddy, wish you were here before the factory reset I did, but everything seemed to go back to normal after I did the reset but I wanted to actually try to find out specifics. I haven't rooted just because I use Android pay (I know system less root us out there) but I'll try to keep an eye out for that stuff if it happens again.
simms22 said:
turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.
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"and before you say it was my wifi, that was off with the same issue".....
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"and before you say it was my wifi, that was off with the same issue".....
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i have only what you gave us, about your issue, and no more. as i see it, you HAD YOUR WIFI ON, but werent using your wifi. you didnt give me anything contrary to that.
simms22 said:
turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.
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I wondered where this went.. didn't it used to be in advanced under wifi settings?
lazer77 said:
I wondered where this went.. didn't it used to be in advanced under wifi settings?
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yup. now its in location settings, three dots at the top right.
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i have only what you gave us, about your issue, and no more. as i see it, you HAD YOUR WIFI ON, but werent using your wifi. you didnt give me anything contrary to that.
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Not trying to be rude but.....
A2CKilla said:
Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Not trying to be rude but.....
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oh, no. I understand that's it fixed your issues. I was just saying, that was all the information we had, what you had left :angel:
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oh, no. I understand that's it fixed your issues. I was just saying, that was all the information we had, what you had left :angel:
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Lol, it's all good, but yea, that wasn't the issue, doing now with wifi always on and battery drain is normal and doze is working properly, so probably a bad flash and factory reset fixed it, although I really wish there are ways around that
I have a S5 plus G901f. I have had the phone for 5 months now, and to cut a lot story short, since it was out of the box brand new on stock everything, going through kitkat, lollipop, marshmellow, all stock updates, and now bunch of custom roms and custom kernels, ALL to try stop this wifi battery drain, NOTHING has made a difference. Nothing has worked.
Whenever WIfi is on, the battery will drain about 1% every few minutes, no matter what. With the Wifi OFF, the battery graph will be a horizontal line and the phone will last over a week.
Does anyone have Any idea how to fix this issue. My S6 S3, etc do not do this. They have perfect standby with wifi on.
If anyone offers a solution that works, I give you my word I will paypal $20 to you. Its easily worth that.
It looks a little something like this. The flat parts are with Wifi OFF.
GSAM battery stats just reports it as Android Kernel, Android reports it at Android OS.
Maybe try checking with wakelock detector free in my case it's better than gsam
Is that a custom rom or stock?
If custom the android system will drain less after a week.
You might try to boot up in safemode and see if the system ui drains battery.
If not you can do a Factory Reset and see if it worked.
Download network connections app and sd maid app from playstore.
Run first network connections, see if you find a app that still there and has network traffic. Unatural if you find an app that sucks much traffic.
Use sd maid and go to app control. There you can see which app is active and turn all third party apps off, also the autostart of the receiver.
After that is it always draining?
Of course you can use the system and app cleaner of sd maid if you like.
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Eddy2k2 said:
Is that a custom rom or stock?
If custom the android system will drain less after a week.
You might try to boot up in safemode and see if the system ui drains battery.
If not you can do a Factory Reset and see if it worked.
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Read first post. Have done more than factory reset. Both on Custom and stock roms. It doesnt matter what rom.
testomat said:
Download network connections app and sd maid app from playstore.
Run first network connections, see if you find a app that still there and has network traffic. Unatural if you find an app that sucks much traffic.
Use sd maid and go to app control. There you can see which app is active and turn all third party apps off, also the autostart of the receiver.
After that is it always draining?
Of course you can use the system and app cleaner of sd maid if you like.
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Will try all those things, but have gone through with titanium and blasted everything in the past with no change to the problem. As I said it only happens when WIFI is on, if mobile data is on but wifi is off, there is no problem. It sucks but I think its a hardware issue...
Will try all the suggestions.
Just for information, OP. Thanks for offering 20$, but you could try and resolve the issue yourself by installing BetterBatteryStats, and checking out what' exactly in the "android os" is causing the wakelock
Also I'd recommend flashing a completly new system with Odin, in case it's a virus - one of the guys on my job had one (probably still has )
I don't want the money but if you are on marshmallow turn off bluetooth and wifi scanning it should help.
It's not impossible that you could have a hardware defect . I'd try contacting a Samsung service center but it looks like you won't be covered by the warranty since you probably tripped Knox when you installed a custom rom.
If you have flashed 100% stock, and factory reset, flashed custom and factory reset, and back to stock and factory reset, and it is still doing it, it sounds fairly likely it is not a software/firmware issue, but hardware
RMA
If you have the HuffPost app, uninstall it for some time, it is my only news app installing itself in autostart/as background service, despite the all offering push notifications, which i have disabled for all these apps. Huffpost can go amok, causing much drain. But with root and Wakelock Detector you may spot your culprit.
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If you have the HuffPost app, uninstall it for some time, it is my only news app installing itself in autostart/as background service, despite the all offering push notifications, which i have disabled for all these apps. Huffpost can go amok, causing much drain. But with root and Wakelock Detector you may spot your culprit.
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I would hope OP has flashed stock and factory reset, and tested the problem is still there 'before' installing any other apps
You should try this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ebf-tweaking-battery-saver-optimizer-t3401341
Could be a faulty battery,did you try using a different one?
It's very unlikely that a "faulty" battery would die with the small drain of WiFi and not turn off immediately when the screen turns on.
I regularly go to a place where the wifi signal strength is weak. My battery drains faster, even during the standby, while being there.
Wifi power save mode
1. Go to your phone dialer
2. Dial *#0011#
3. When you see the "ServiceMode" screen, press the left menu button
4. Select "WiFi"
5. See that "Wifi Power Save Mode" - well turn it "on"
6. Exit this menu
Hope it works......if its a harware problem it should work but put down yours wifi performance.
From Ajay have a great day....
Boot your phone into safe mode and see if the problem keeps happening and if not get a zero lemon battery case
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The $20 dollars is there because it is such a persistent problem it seems like a miracle if it were to be fixed. Its a problem that I do not know the cause of so Id be laughing if it was fixed for $20.
Ive tried most of the suggestions. The culprit seems to be wlan_wow_wakelock. Have no idea how that helps?
I would hope OP has flashed stock and factory reset, and tested the problem is still there 'before' installing any other apps
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I did. It did this on stock 4.4.4 and stock 5.0
You should try this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...mizer-t3401341
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Tried every combination of setting wifi sleeper etc. Had no effect. This is the same as L speed.
Could be a faulty battery,did you try using a different one?
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Tried another.
I regularly go to a place where the wifi signal strength is weak. My battery drains faster, even during the standby, while being there.
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Tried close range, different wifi. Different wifi routers does tend to make a difference to how fast it drains but always a strong trend down. In my home the phone is only metres away from the router, full signal.
1. Go to your phone dialer
2. Dial *#0011#
3. When you see the "ServiceMode" screen, press the left menu button
4. Select "WiFi"
5. See that "Wifi Power Save Mode" - well turn it "on"
6. Exit this menu
Hope it works......if its a harware problem it should work but put down yours wifi performance.
From Ajay have a great day....
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The only option I see in there is Ping test. No wifi power save mode.
This is not a common bug, at least not with the common G900F. What does the "1" stand for?
It could be a mismatch between rom and baseband/modem. This shouldn't happen on unrooted phones during updates(OTA or Kies).
With TWRP, you should be able to flash the correct modem firmware, if there is said mismatch, otherwise the unbricking procedure with Kies or Odin should help. A total factory reset/unbricking is the ultimate solution anyway. A certain app may also be the culprit, so uninstalling these one by one may provide a solution within a certain time, starting with battery saving apps and the like.
Hardware damage just preventing power save seems unlikely.
*Detection* said:
If you have flashed 100% stock, and factory reset, flashed custom and factory reset, and back to stock and factory reset, and it is still doing it, it sounds fairly likely it is not a software/firmware issue, but hardware
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This is not a common bug, at least not with the common G900F. What does the "1" stand for?
It could be a mismatch between rom and baseband/modem. This shouldn't happen on unrooted phones during updates(OTA or Kies).
With TWRP, you should be able to flash the correct modem firmware, if there is said mismatch, otherwise the unbricking procedure with Kies or Odin should help. A total factory reset/unbricking is the ultimate solution anyway. A certain app may also be the culprit, so uninstalling these one by one may provide a solution within a certain time, starting with battery saving apps and the like.
Hardware damage just preventing power save seems unlikely.
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Read the thread please. No a total factory reset is not the ultimate solution, its not any kind of solution because the reason I started using custom roms is to try fix the problem with the phone when it was 100% stock. The correct firmware was on the phone when new, and it still did it, and it still has the right sofware now afaik as I'm only installing g901f roms.
G901f is the Galaxy S5 Plus. Its basically like a note 4 inside fitted into the body of an S5
Just so you guys know the above pics of the battery graph show with wifi on, the battery drain, and with wifi off, almost no battery drain and on again.
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Funnily enough if I leave the screen on the wifi almost drains no power, and its the drain same as leaving screen off lol.
This is with over 1h of on screen time with wifi on.
Its the same as leaving the phone on standby with wifi on lol. Wifi stops being crazy and normal drain occurs.
Thats why Im saying its worth $20 for a fix. Because its BS. I think the only fix is in the form on a kernel where someone understands what the problem is.