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can anyone confirm that this does or does not work on our phone? I heard it doesn't work for CDMA

Works fine on CDMA however I can't get it to work on this phone. It starts fine and set up goes fine but then it will randomly turn itself off. May be a memory issue I'm not sure.

I've been running the beta, and have had no issues.
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Why not download it and find out?

ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?

illtema said:
ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
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I just turn it on. Last night my phone was idle for 9 hours, and only lost 1% battery.
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Last night w/ juice defender, off charger. Nothing else. Lol.
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The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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mackeydesigns said:
The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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It is, doesn't affect it.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.

mackeydesigns said:
So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Daswolven said:
The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Could be true, could be false, that's sorta the problem.
Either way, I'll look into it.

I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.

stanmancan said:
I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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Please check settings before posting. In the paid version you can set specific programs to always have access when running. I believe it is also in the beta for free.
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Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.

dricacho said:
Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
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Is the version you stated the beta?
Disregard the question, lol, re-read your post.

I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing

Kamar234 said:
I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
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As with any app, different phones play differently with them. I hear from some that things don't work, when they run as intended on my phone. This will always be the case.
I can say absolutely that Juice Defender Beta works without a problem on my device, and I have tested it extensively. It does what it should without issues or problems.
That obviously isn't the case for everyone. I will suggest that before someone blast a well written app publicly and possibly discourage someone who might benefit from it from trying it out, that they contact the developer with their issues and see if there is a known conflict or bug. I have resolved issues with apps like this many times, and almost always it was something on my end that fixed it, not the app itself.

Daswolven, I agree with you completely. Learned that with my Droid1 with the overclock speeds and voodoo with this phone, some things just don't work properly on your particular handset. I took the time to understand what this app does and it is extremely powerful. The best way to find out what's good for you is to try it. On a side note, I have been harassing the makers of Beautiful Widgets about the fc issue with our phones. I think they actually took care of it with the last update because I haven't had one in a while haha.

I've also done research on another app called BatteryFu which is suppose to be a "lean and mean" battery saver, compared to JD. Toby Kurien, the author of BatteryFu, claims that JD is bloated and ended up using memory and battery - against what it's suppose to accomplish. One of the biggest battery drain is mobile connectivity. JD and BatteryFu intelligently and transparently manages this essentially enabling it when you need it and disabling it when you don't. On the Fascinate, other than switching to airplane mode, mobile data connection cannot be disabled according to Toby. So this renders those battery saver apps useless. Perhaps turning off the Background Data would slightly help but it is needed by the Android Market so you'll have to turn it on when you need to access the market. You can also try setting up multiple APN's. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this on the Fascinate. My friend has a Vibrant and you can go to SETTINGS -> MOBILE NETWORKS -> APN. The Fascinate doesn't have APN under MOBILE NETWORKS. Maybe someone here has a workaround.

[Q] Has anyone figured out the "mobile radio active" bug?

I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.

huh? mobile radio active? whats that, a wakelock?

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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery

tysonwald said:
This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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I was wondering why my battery life was horrible since updating.
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I had this issue on 5.0, 5.01, and now 5.1. Been with it the whole time. I've tried different radios and clean flashes and wipes. Nothing is getting rid of it. When you search google there are some people with the same issue but nothing major which leads me to believe some things wrong with my phone and/or there's something causing this and it isn't normal.

I've never seen this

rootSU said:
I've never seen this
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.

tysonwald said:
Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.

rootSU said:
My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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That was mine too and what I did when I flashed 5.1

One issue I have is with the Facebook app and I believe that is causing a lot of my battery drain when not on WiFi. In a recent update Facebook removed the option to not automatically update news feed. Now I believe it refreshes very often causing massive drain.
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tysonwald said:
I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.

doitright said:
This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.

No way it's normal. I use chrome beta and it clocked over 3 hours of Mobile Radio Active today. I still got great battery life, but when Chrome Beta takes 20% and your screen takes 10%, something is wrong. It's not continuously updating as someone above suggested. It's a bug. The mobile radio is being kept active for no reason by seemingly random apps. I really hope someone figures out how to fix this.

Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?

zer0xp said:
Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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No one has even confirmed it is a problem yet. Unlikely anyone is working on it.

At first, I was thinking this was app related, but after looking at all my background and running apps, it seems they all have this "bug". However, mine don't seem to be running that as long, which in turn isn't showing a big battery drain. Hence the fact that I never noticed it.
I am guessing that it is some wakelock that is set by the app, but all apps that connect to the internet are using it. However, I looked on my flo which is running BrokenOs 5.0.1 and it doesn't have this mobile radio active process. I will be updating it to BrokenOs 5.1.0 here in a bit to see if it appears. If not, then we can limit it to just the shamu. If that is the case, then we just need to locate it, probably in the kernel, and decide what to do with it...
I'll follow up with my findings later...

I hope there is a solution!
For me it is the problem with Android 5 or the nexus 6. although i dont think it is a problem with the nexus 6. After my recognition are different models (nexus 4, 5, some Samsung devices, moto x...) affected after updating to lollipop.
I have also test different (stock-)roms/ different kernels/ disabled some services/ tested different radios/ factory resets and freezed some system- or deinstalled all 3rd Party apps/ changed the messenger...
No problem in wlan but with 4g/3g is the value of mobile radio active to high that some "apps" (gpservices, android os, hangouts, telegram, sometimes chrome) now are on top of the battery stats. With bbs or wld i cant find the reason.

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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.

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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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There is nothing to see when some apps on top of the battery stats (with 3g/4g) because of the high mobile radio active? Why are this value not so high on other devices with KitKat and then higher with lollipop?

Being connected to wifi for a period of time may help reveal more info.
Also, try using a whitelist firewall to only allow apps that you need to allow data. Or even block all traffic for a while and see what happens.
You could even block traffic on only cellular, and let only wifi pass traffic.
Another thing to verify would be whether airplane mode (wifi could be on) indeed causes the issue to completely go away as one would expect.

Wifi always on, even when off in every setting

heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
btw, you can check in the battery stats page. just press on the graph, and it takes you to another page.

simms22 said:
heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself

rootSU said:
I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.

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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.

rootSU said:
Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:

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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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I can also confirm this. Even with everything turned off, I still get notifications of available WiFi networks. ???

I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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ben_pyett said:
I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.

phyba said:
I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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real battery drain i didnt notice either

If WiFi is off in settings and it still shows I think its a bug, because if you check it with gsam it shows it being off. A reboot with WiFi off when you reboot will fix it. I had the same thing on my m8 and now with this device also. Its a lollipop bug.

simms22 said:
if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
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Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ben_pyett said:
Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.

simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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ben_pyett said:
On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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i dont know how the nfc is connected either. but i do know, if all else fails, it works

I know that whenever I flash a new ROM, and get it booted up and then turn off WiFi that according to batt stats its still on. If you reboot it removes the signature from stats and it will show as it should.

I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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SpaceGooner said:
I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.

bill3508 said:
Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
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Fair enough. Like i said I only recall that by turning down location accuracy and turning off wifi on my N5 the device finally stopped reporting WiFi usage. On my N6 I have WiFi and high accuracy location on all the time so didn't realise there was a false reporting issue til seeing this thread. Hope it gets fixed in a future update I guess.
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simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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I'm seeing the same dang thing, my first thoughts were the WiFi only when plugged in or never, and then Google Location Services (making it device only), never thought NFC could be the culprit. I don't use it either, but I'd hate to think this feature that Google has been trying to push is putting WiFi on all the time, irrespective of if it's draining the battery.
I'm going to move the file from system and see how it goes.
Wouldn't freezing it yield the same outcome though? If yes, it'd be a slightly easier step for some.
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Extreme battery drain?? 6.0.1

Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Try a factory rest, fixes 99% of issues.

turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.

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Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Only out of place thing I see is that your screen was on at some points but the phone wasn't saying it was awake. That leads me to believe there's a kernel wakelock issue because I had the same thing but on 5.1. The issue turned out for me to be a wakelock called bluesleep which is related to bluetooth and it came about from an app called gasbuddy which silently updated to provide support for bluetooth "beacons" at gas stations to give you deals or some crap like that. If you're rooted you can install BetterBatteryStats to test for kernel wakelocks, you can test for bluesleep wakelock by just turning off bluetooth and seeing if the drain/weird screen-on not awake thing happens, and long press power off to start the phone in safe mode to narrow down whether its a system issue or installed app issue and if rooted use an app freezer like Titanium Backup to freeze your installed apps a few at a time to narrow down what app(s) are causing it(so you don't have to uninstall/reinstall trial and error).

StykerB said:
Only out of place thing I see is that your screen was on at some points but the phone wasn't saying it was awake. That leads me to believe there's a kernel wakelock issue because I had the same thing but on 5.1. The issue turned out for me to be a wakelock called bluesleep which is related to bluetooth and it came about from an app called gasbuddy which silently updated to provide support for bluetooth "beacons" at gas stations to give you deals or some crap like that. If you're rooted you can install BetterBatteryStats to test for kernel wakelocks, you can test for bluesleep wakelock by just turning off bluetooth and seeing if the drain/weird screen-on not awake thing happens, and long press power off to start the phone in safe mode to narrow down whether its a system issue or installed app issue and if rooted use an app freezer like Titanium Backup to freeze your installed apps a few at a time to narrow down what app(s) are causing it(so you don't have to uninstall/reinstall trial and error).
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Wow thanks for that, I actually use GasBuddy, wish you were here before the factory reset I did, but everything seemed to go back to normal after I did the reset but I wanted to actually try to find out specifics. I haven't rooted just because I use Android pay (I know system less root us out there) but I'll try to keep an eye out for that stuff if it happens again.

simms22 said:
turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.
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"and before you say it was my wifi, that was off with the same issue".....

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"and before you say it was my wifi, that was off with the same issue".....
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i have only what you gave us, about your issue, and no more. as i see it, you HAD YOUR WIFI ON, but werent using your wifi. you didnt give me anything contrary to that.

simms22 said:
turn off wifi scannning, in you location settings. notice that your wifi us in the whole time? and i bet that you arent even using wifi.. well, turn it off.
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I wondered where this went.. didn't it used to be in advanced under wifi settings?

lazer77 said:
I wondered where this went.. didn't it used to be in advanced under wifi settings?
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yup. now its in location settings, three dots at the top right.

simms22 said:
i have only what you gave us, about your issue, and no more. as i see it, you HAD YOUR WIFI ON, but werent using your wifi. you didnt give me anything contrary to that.
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Not trying to be rude but.....
A2CKilla said:
Has anyone else run into this after 6.0.1 update. It really didn't hit me until last night when I decided to test it. Unplugged my phone at 80% and went to sleep only to wake up to it dropping almost 50%!!!!!....not normal. It looks like something is just not right with everything after the update because after checking everything, nothing seems to fit. And before you say it was my wifi, I just changed that, this happened even if wifi was off. But I can say doze is definitely not working and no app seemed to go "rouge" with wakelocks when trying to check. Going to downgrade back to a previous build of 6.0, but hopefully someone else can chime in. Only found a few articles of people reporting the same thing but no one is actually posting possible solutions, just bashing a legitimate concern. Hopefully I don't run into that here.....
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Not trying to be rude but.....
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oh, no. I understand that's it fixed your issues. I was just saying, that was all the information we had, what you had left :angel:

simms22 said:
oh, no. I understand that's it fixed your issues. I was just saying, that was all the information we had, what you had left :angel:
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Lol, it's all good, but yea, that wasn't the issue, doing now with wifi always on and battery drain is normal and doze is working properly, so probably a bad flash and factory reset fixed it, although I really wish there are ways around that

Galaxy S5 Android™ version 6.0.1, Marshmallow feature discussion, plus and minus

I do not see any thread discussing features on GS5 marshmallow updates, so I am starting one.
Good Stuff
-- Wifi calling. When enabled, always tries to use wifi to call. Not sure how it works if wifi signal is fading. Does it revert to cell signal in real time?
Unlike T-mobile, airplane mode needs to be off to use wifi calling.
Not So Good Stuff
-- Less control in power saving mode. No more individual tweak for CPU power and display (gray scale). Only choices are power saving mode
and ultra power saving mode. Does it mean MM is more power efficient so we do not need those extra modes anymore?

Stock automatic brightness sucks in Marshmallow
Automatic brightness sucks now in Marshmallow. It is changed from static automatic from range bound. This is a Marshmallow change from Google. It suppose to work like this: you set a brightness point, and Android use ambient light sensor to adjust around the brightness point you set. I have a Nexus 5 phone and it works flawlessly.
With GS5, it never works right. This is always too dark in low light environment or too bright otherwise. Most of the time moving slider does not change anything when auto brightness is checked. Even if it responds once a while. Turning off the screen and on would reset it.
I did some research and downloaded Velis. It works surprisingly well. Will see if it drains battery.

I'm seeing huge improvements in battery life. I usually leave my phone in power saving mode on a desk during working hours and when I was in Lollipop, by the time I got out of work my battery would be at 42%. Today, my battery was at 91% after a 9 hour day. So far it's been on battery for almost 16 hours and is currently at 71%.
I will wait a few days and see if it settles down. My past experience is that the battery life gets worst after a fresh update for a few days and then goes back to normal.
I am missing the mobile hot spot though, it came in handy.

Mobile Hotspot clarification
iJemuel said:
I'm seeing huge improvements in battery life. I usually leave my phone in power saving mode on a desk during working hours and when I was in Lollipop, by the time I got out of work my battery would be at 42%. Today, my battery was at 91% after a 9 hour day. So far it's been on battery for almost 16 hours and is currently at 71%.
I will wait a few days and see if it settles down. My past experience is that the battery life gets worst after a fresh update for a few days and then goes back to normal.
I am missing the mobile hot spot though, it came in handy.
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I just got the notification on my stock g900a a couple hours ago, and was looking for info on the update but have not found much yet, could you please clarify: does the update totally remove any option to use mobile hotspot? Just disable it, etc.?
I use this feature often while away from home and secure WiFi is not available for homework and other tasks where a keyboard is essential or a mobile device is not supported. I am hoping that there is some chance that the update just breaks it or something and the loss may not be permanent before I look in to blocking the update. I don't like 5.1.1, but loss of mobile hotspot would be a deal breaker; it was a major consideration into my initial choice to purchase.

Mobile hotspot works fine for me. Is it because it's unlocked and on another carrier? But that of course also means no wifi calling for me.
Automatic brightness control sucks. I get weird flickering instead of dimming when the screen starts to time out. Turn off auto brightness and it's fine. PG3 had the same problem for me.

I'm a big fan now of the update for the default Samsung Music Player (couldn't get it w/o MM)
You can't turn off the charger flap warning or disable the max volume warning...but you can at least disable the charger sound now.
Battery life is good...and I dare say (on both the official and unofficial official builds) consistent.
Wifi hotspot and tethering works for me.
Call quality is good. Call quality is REALLY nice when the other caller has a VOLTE capable phone.
In low signal areas...haven't had an issue with dropped calls or using mobile data.

Here are my thoughts.
1. I am getting some lag in the device. seems it does not hibernate apps well or just doesnt manage memory well. maybe I was just too used to a rooted device with greenify. I have tried greenify with no root but it just isnt the same. Pisses me of sometimes cause It gets REALLY laggy.
2. I cannot get mobile hot spot to work on ATT. It is supposedly enabled on my line (company device on company plan PER our ATT rep). but I get the attached error when I try it.
3. SMS fail to go through alot when on a Microcell. this issue stated with MM un-official and now Official.
4. I did get the battey cover and charge cover killed by using a debloater app. I just put phone in developer mode and enabled USB debug. then fired up this windows app and plugged computer in. it reads the apps and let me disable all the bloat crapola and the popupuiReceiver_m.apk app. Debloater by gatesJunior. Simple and easy to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
6. I do second the audio qualty. I have noticed that some people are MUCH louder and easier to understand. Especially on my Wife's new S7Active.

Good stuff:
Better hearing quality in calls
New icons
Being able to hide system notifications in the lock screen (such as airplane mode or power saving)
Bad stuff:
I'm probably nitpicking but when you turn power saving mode on it turns the notification trail from transparent to this opaque gray, which I know it's in order to save battery but it looks bad.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Also now the power saving notification is huge
Also when you turn off the device and turn it on again or restart you can't unlock with fingerprints the first time with a messasge saying: ''Unable to use fingerprints after restarting device. Enter password.'' I know it's a MM security policy but it's annoying

There is a choice to whether turn off all background data in power saving mode. If you did not turn on that one, you will get a much smaller notification msg. Mine only says "Device performance limited".
Yes, the gray notification bar for power saving mode is ugly. :cyclops:

What brand are the batteries that you got? and where did you purchase them from?
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.

pickupman66 said:
Here are my thoughts.
1. I am getting some lag in the device. seems it does not hibernate apps well or just doesnt manage memory well. maybe I was just too used to a rooted device with greenify. I have tried greenify with no root but it just isnt the same. Pisses me of sometimes cause It gets REALLY laggy.
2. I cannot get mobile hot spot to work on ATT. It is supposedly enabled on my line (company device on company plan PER our ATT rep). but I get the attached error when I try it.
3. SMS fail to go through alot when on a Microcell. this issue stated with MM un-official and now Official.
4. I did get the battey cover and charge cover killed by using a debloater app. I just put phone in developer mode and enabled USB debug. then fired up this windows app and plugged computer in. it reads the apps and let me disable all the bloat crapola and the popupuiReceiver_m.apk app. Debloater by gatesJunior. Simple and easy to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
6. I do second the audio qualty. I have noticed that some people are MUCH louder and easier to understand. Especially on my Wife's new S7Active.
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AH...thanks for the popupuiReceiver_m.apk reference. PackageDisablerPro will disable that as well. No more volume/charger flap popups!
EDIT: popupuiReceiver_m.apk does not govern the volume warning for me...my bad.

yaboijay2029 said:
What brand are the batteries that you got? and where did you purchase them from?
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
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I got a set of Anker batteries and the charger from amazon. we will see how they do.

clovehitch said:
I just got the notification on my stock g900a a couple hours ago, and was looking for info on the update but have not found much yet, could you please clarify: does the update totally remove any option to use mobile hotspot? Just disable it, etc.?
I use this feature often while away from home and secure WiFi is not available for homework and other tasks where a keyboard is essential or a mobile device is not supported. I am hoping that there is some chance that the update just breaks it or something and the loss may not be permanent before I look in to blocking the update. I don't like 5.1.1, but loss of mobile hotspot would be a deal breaker; it was a major consideration into my initial choice to purchase.
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My phone was originally from AT&T and I moved to Cricket. When I was in Lollipop my phone was rooted and I flashed the Wifi_Hotspot update to enable it. Now I can't use it. I get the same error as pickupman66 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68464559&postcount=7

Battery life is not better. its either at par with lolipop or worse. If you think you are getting better battery life.. that is just a placebo effect. i.e. this is new stuff so must be because of it I am getting better battery. It could simply be 10 other things.
Overall zero value. not sure why I needed to update.

I read somewhere that MM doze mode would turn off a lot of services to save battery if the phone is stationary for a while. This could be the reason this guy sees a huge battery life improvement. He did state that he left the phone on the table.

I like it.
I am always a fan of updating, except when it cost money. My battery life actually improved. It came from 1/2 of a day to 3/4 to 3/4 of a day to whole day. I like the new icon pack. Still had a lot of bloat ware. My speed improved. Yes I like it. Sad thing is. It came out after 7.0 came out .

Check out this verbiage from greenify. The white list goes to apps that are not optimized.
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I highly recommend using Package Disabler Pro v6.3b47. You can get it from Mobilism Market if you search for it. There are a lot of similar named apps but don't work nearly as well. Make sure you get v6.3b47.
Also, I just started experiencing the screen flickering issue on MM PG3. Eventually screen wouldn't even turn on. After a few days, I noticed it only happened at night and in the morning, not as bad during the day. I Googled the issue and basically, yes it is an auto-brightness issue and also related to the AMOLED screens the S5 has. This article, as well as others, give great detail and information as to why it happens and what is going on as well as practical solutions. You may have to scroll down a bit to get the best info. https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/272594/Flickering+screen+on+low+back+light
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I also use ShutAppPremium v2.60. Great app that really kills processes fairly aggressively. Works great.
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jeraspie28 said:
I highly recommend using Package Disabler Pro v6.3b47. You can get it from Mobilism Market if you search for it. There are a lot of similar named apps but don't work nearly as well. Make sure you get v6.3b47.
Also, I just started experiencing the screen flickering issue on MM PG3. Eventually screen wouldn't even turn on. After a few days, I noticed it only happened at night and in the morning, not as bad during the day. I Googled the issue and basically, yes it is an auto-brightness issue and also related to the AMOLED screens the S5 has. This article, as well as others, give great detail and information as to why it happens and what is going on as well as practical solutions. You may have to scroll down a bit to get the best info. https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/272594/Flickering+screen+on+low+back+light
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I also use ShutAppPremium v2.60. Great app that really kills processes fairly aggressively. Works great.
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Fwiw, none of the solutions for screen flickering worked for me EXCEPT: simply turning up the brightness on my phone. I had it set around 30% with auto brightness off. At that level, screen was always flickered when dimming, and when turning back on. But simply sliding the brightness up to about 60% solved the issue. Kind of annoying, because I like to have the brightness down to extend the battery life a bit. But whatever.

That is very interesting. If I recall correctly I purchased my S5 soon after it was released. I have not had any screen flickering at all.
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