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I've been using a SIM-free (unlocked and rooted) Motorola Atrix 4G with the lapdock everyday as my "daily-driver" phone/laptop solution since April of last year. I used the webtop, and later on, a modded version of Gentoo with Google Docs and Libre Office to get things done. I work at a university, so if I need something other than regular office software, I just use one of the hundreds of workstations I have access to on our campuses-- I've never experienced the so-called limitations that the lapdock+phone combo presents, and the fact that I ride very crowded trains in Tokyo precludes me from bringing my $1500+ laptop around everyday.
So when the Asus Padfone came out, I was sure that this would be my upgrade path! A phone that goes into a tablet that clips onto a keyboard. Brilliant! But hang on-- now there's the Nexus 7... Pure Google, and OPEN... That plus a Galaxy-Nexus... hmmmmm.... Could that also do the trick??
Well, there's always "let's wait and see a few more months..." But the obvious happened a week ago-- my Atrix's screen gave up the ghost... Sure I can plug it into HDMI, and use the lapdock just fine, but I can't use it as a phone... GRRRR!! Oh, and check out my location to the left-- I live in JAPAN, but I travel a lot, and go back to the US every year; actually, I'm going home in a week for a month!! So I NEED a phone either just before I go, or when I get there....
REQUIREMENTS:
- SIM Free (unlocked): I travel. A lot. Internationally. I needs my unlock!
- Multi-band support: Japan uses 2100MHz for HSPA+, and so does most of Asia. The US is 850, 1900, 1700... I'd like to find a phone that supports both of these... The Padfone will only support the Asian frequency, but nothing in the States-- I'd be stuck on 2G back home for a month... I can tolerate that though because I'll at least have AT&T hotspot support. The G-Nexus of course has a PENTABAND 3G radio (why the F don't other phones <other than the iPhone> have this same radio?!) so it'll work with whatever network I throw at it.
- Open bootloader/Rooted: One of the things I really enjoyed about my Atrix was being able to tweak tweak tweak. The Nexus devices don't need an explanation here-- They're designed to root and tweak. The Padfone can be rooted now--but it's bootloader is locked... But with the exotic tweaks made to get the tablet and phone UI to work, I doubt I'd use a custom ROM anyhow.
- Tablet/Phone combo: I got spoiled by my Atrix. Being able to use a physical keyboard to respond to an incoming text message is really habit-forming. Especially if I need to type it in Japanese. Of course the Padfone would win here... Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though. The other obvious thing here is that the Padphone *IS* the tablet, once docked into the PadStation. No tethering, no separate data plan, no hotspot needed. The G-Nexus-7 combo would see me tethering the G-Nex to the Nex-7. Is there a simple app that can make an on-demand data connection between the two happen at will?
- Updates: This is what pissed me off about Motorola. The OG Atrix's Tegra 2 processor can more than handle ICS, but here it is almost 6 months later, and nothing. Luckily I can get Kang builds, but certain things just don't work for me--for example Chrome crashes ALL the time. Camera sucks, etc. Hence, I'm over using another Moto device. Obviously the Nexus duo will ALWAYS get the latest and greatest; no-brainer there. Asus? The TF series got their updates to ICS within the first 3 months IIRC. Since Jelly Bean is just a point update, perhaps the Padfone will see an update in the fall sometime--I can live with that.
- Ease of use: Not the OS, but the physical pieces... The G-Nex-7 combo is easy in the way that both are able to use the same charger (micro USB). Padfone just nests together. I like how the Padfone keyboard has USB ports and an SD card slot... Not to mentin BATTERIES galore. It's hard as hell trying to find a place to charge my phone all the time, and sometimes I'd just use the Moto's lapdock as a battery charger!
- Price: this is the kicker... The Galaxy Nexus/ Nexus 7 Combo will come out to less than US$600 when bought from the Google store. Even buying from a grey-market distributor in Taiwan, I can't buy the Padfone/PadStation/Keyboard combo for less that US$1000... I have barely that much to spend though.
Friends, I need some help deciding! Here are my pros and cons for each device as it stands today. I'm posting this in the Padfone, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and my old Motorola Atrix forums as well. I want some good honest and thoughtful opinions-- no haterism, flaming, or retardedness please. This is an extremely important purchase for me, and needs to be done ASAP.
As always, thank you so much for your opinions!
Your answer is in the OP. You're welcome.
starrwulfe said:
Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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Psipherious said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
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Thanx for that app tip! That's going on the "save" list. I can go to Akihabara (the famous Tokyo electronics shopping area) and get one for maybe even less--that's definitely part of my solution if I do the G-Nex-7 thing.
nyijedi said:
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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And I've heard about ASUS's bad support at times... One of the reasons I switched from using an HP laptop to an Apple one, was because I can walk into any Apple store worldwide and get help with it. (I'm just as mad about them suing everyone into oblivion, and I'm not that flattered with iOS the way I am with Android, but I loves me some OSX for sure.)
Keep the opinions coming y'all. Thanx!
I've owned more than enough Android devices and the thing that always leaves me disenchanted with them in the end is the update fragmentation. I have the n7 on preorder and my x2 is set to be replaced by the g-nex in August. This is just my opinion but I think it's insane that I have to keep flashing roms that may or may not have all of my hardware working correctly just to get an update. Nexus devices represent what I feel google should have done at Androids launch to combat Apple. I plan to use my n7 as an iPad alternative until Windows Surface launches and I can get a tab with fully featured office for productivity.
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nyijedi said:
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Nexcellent said:
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Exactly this. If for nothing else, these two solid reasons:
A GNex + a Nexus 7 are cheaper than a Padfone
And the battery on the GSM model of the GNex is excellent compared to its LTE counterpart.
Treat yourself to some delicious Jelly Bean. =]
Not to mention, you can just buy the $70 3800mAh extended battery from Seidio with NFC if you are worried about battery life, and you'll still be paying way less than the Padfone. I ordered one for my dad's Verizon GNex the other day, and will finally be able to put in his phone when he comes home on sunday, since no other battery has been good enough, even with the Gummy ROM on his phone. =[
Hmm. Good point. One of my main concerns is battery life since I'll be tethering with this combo a lot. I forgot the NFC chip is in the battery and not the body... also I wonder if NFC is compatible with the Felicia systems used here in Japan for things like train passes and e-money.... the phone I'm using now has it... not a necessity though.
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seff5677 said:
Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
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I wouldn't just worry about timely updates. I'd worry about decent performance. My Prime is a quad core device and it sucks total ass at playing games, browsing, and just about everything else. Constant lags and crashes. It's enraging. Do yourself a favor and stay away from Asus devices (the Nexus 7 will likely be different since it's a google device). You'll save yourself some huge headaches.
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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The reason for the Asus hate is not their hardware, it's how they bloat up the OS after google passes it off to them. With the n7 Asus has nothing to do with the OS, they just make the hardware.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
CGI_Ram said:
So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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jpxdude said:
I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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Believe me, I was super pissed when word leaked that Asus was making the Nexus tablet. I'm not buying one solely for that reason. However, I do think the N7 should be okay since Google is taking care of the software instead of Asus and oversaw the hardware. Asus is completely incompetent. Google is not.
And as a Prime owner, if apps on the N7 perform similarly as the Prime, I'd suggest throwing it in the garbage. All browsers, Google Earth, tegra games - they're god awful on the Prime. Some of them are literally unusable. With that said, I'm sure apps on the N7 will run great thanks to Google.
Have I mentioned how awful Asus is?
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer. I have tried using 10 inch netbooks, and it is a real pain. But maybe the OP can get away with this (younger eyes on a higher res screan, perhaps smaller fingers/hands).
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
If one is using the pair for light browsing + media then I cerrtainly see the GN + N7 as a sound choice. But for a working laptop replacement, not for me. Alas I am not certain a padphone works either (though I like the concept). I would certainly be concerned about the phone itself (there are a lot of deatils in this area that do not show up in specs, ask Apple).
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer.
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I had exactly that same question, so I trekked over to the local electronics shop near my home here in Yokohama, and they have an Asus TF201 set up there on wifi. The tablet's dimensions are Padfone sized-- 10 inches. They also had the keydock there too, so I got to test that out as well... Wow. Color me impressed. Remember, the 10" IPS screen has more pixels and a much wider and brighter viewing angle than the Moto OG Lapdock. The keyboard was also easy to type on, and I love the fact that there are actual keys for Home, Back, Volume, Menu, Play/Pause and so on.
CGI_Ram said:
So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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You're right-- It does seem like a better fit to me too, the more I think of it. Going and actually futzing with the TF201 yesterday didn't help though...
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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The phone part did pretty well according to Anandtech and Engadget--
Bear in mind that this is supposed to be saving me the cost of getting a netbook to take to work with me everyday as well too... As far as accessories, well I already have 2 bluetooth headsets just sitting on my desk in front of me now, along with a microUSB to USB port adaptor and micro HDMI M/F cables. All this was from me using the Atrix in various situations.
And while the Nexus Duo is a powerful combo, there are 2 things that I absolutely need to have in a device for the way I work-- SD card adaptor and Ethernet Adaptor.
I work in the Media faculty at the university and also teach photojournalism classes; I also freelance a lot too, and one of the things that helps me a lot, is being able to yank my SD card out the camera, snap it into a USB card reader and plug it into the Lapdock and have the Atrix see it, mount it, and access it. I can then do whatever I need to do to the pix while sitting on the train (Did you know the Bullet Trains here all have Wifi onboard, and can be used while in tunnels? I once wrote and uploaded 2 magazine articles, pix and all while on a 3 hour train ride!) The Padfone's keyboard dock has a full sized SDXC card adapter built in...
Also, while my university has wifi almost everywhere on campus, I cannot access the secured parts of the network where we house our common files for grading and such. We can only use the PC labs, office PC pools, or the ethernet ports in the staff rooms. Currently I use a small wifi adapter in bridge mode sometimes-- of course with the SSID not broadcast. But a better solution would be to get a USB Ethernet adaptor. I know the Transformer series has this baked into their kernels-- I think the Padfone can do it too. But I need to do some checking.
Can the Nexus Duo do some/any of these? Let me know how, so I can check off the boxes!
I wouldn't touch an android or ios tablet after the specs of the Microsoft surface the other windows 8 tablet with ivy bridge processors were revealed. Im done with android on anything but my smartphone. Only thing I need to know is the batter life on those beast.
I'm thinking of buying a cheap tablet for my parents and cannot figure out if I should keep the TP or switch to a new chinese quad-core tablet or buy another TP.
What I don't like about the TP is that it is getting slow, especially when browsing but even simple things like app menu. I'm on OAT LNT 1222 (4.1.2) so it should be the fastest one around, no overclocking. The case is also starting to crack, I only get about 16h of standby with WiFi on, no GPS (not that I use it) and no HDMI. A bit heavy as well compared to the newer tablets. A nice plus though is the IPS screen and generally good responsiveness on the touchscreen.
I've seen some offers for quad core chinese tablets at around 170-200$ (dx) but the last ones I've seen a year ago were really terrible: crap screen, crap touch, battery life around 3-4h and very laggy. Not to mention the form factor of a brick with fullsize ethernet and usb. Generally not updateable from GB, but that was more than one year ago.
Or maybe I should jump straight to N7? That's already a bit more expensive and I'm pretty happy with the TP. My parents also don't need any other feature than basic browsing and gallery.
If the N7 size is acceptable, have you looked at the HP Slate 7? $170 from HP's website.
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For basic browsing and gallery, I would definitely stick with the TP. It does those things fine, so given your use case, I personally would think going out and buying something else unnecessary. However, if they plan on doing more with it, I would say N7. It is a little bit more money, but after some poor experiences with Chinese hardware in general I wouldn't buy a Chinese tablet. The $50 differential isn't worth the drop in build quality for me.
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I'm thinking of buying a cheap tablet for my parents and cannot figure out if I should keep the TP or switch to a new chinese quad-core tablet or buy another TP.
What I don't like about the TP is that it is getting slow, especially when browsing but even simple things like app menu. I'm on OAT LNT 1222 (4.1.2) so it should be the fastest one around, no overclocking. The case is also starting to crack, I only get about 16h of standby with WiFi on, no GPS (not that I use it) and no HDMI. A bit heavy as well compared to the newer tablets. A nice plus though is the IPS screen and generally good responsiveness on the touchscreen.
I've seen some offers for quad core chinese tablets at around 170-200$ (dx) but the last ones I've seen a year ago were really terrible: crap screen, crap touch, battery life around 3-4h and very laggy. Not to mention the form factor of a brick with fullsize ethernet and usb. Generally not updateable from GB, but that was more than one year ago.
Or maybe I should jump straight to N7? That's already a bit more expensive and I'm pretty happy with the TP. My parents also don't need any other feature than basic browsing and gallery.
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I like the tp, if only for the dual booting, webos & android.
AFAIK, the tp doesn't have the hardware for either gps or hdmi.
would also stay away from No Name China Models, yes they are cheaper & seem to have more features yet there is always something that doesn't work properly on these Tablets...go over to 'Tablet Republic' and check out reviews on some of these newer & older models and you will see....just from my short experience with two of these Chinese models i will never go that route again...plus returning one of these if there is a problem is a nightmare.
Personally i would suggest HP of-course & then Asus/ Acer or Samsung.
If it just for your parents I would suggest iPad Mini ( around $300 Now ) in stead of TP. Because what they need is easy to use and a great experience.I think iPad Mini is competent for this. Not suggest TP which is used for "playing" as a toy not just for browsing or reading, right
Just stay away from No Name China Models like sando7 said. Even lots of Chinese would not pay money for that.
brainwash123 said:
I'm thinking of buying a cheap tablet for my parents and cannot figure out if I should keep the TP or switch to a new chinese quad-core tablet or buy another TP.
What I don't like about the TP is that it is getting slow, especially when browsing but even simple things like app menu. I'm on OAT LNT 1222 (4.1.2) so it should be the fastest one around, no overclocking. The case is also starting to crack, I only get about 16h of standby with WiFi on, no GPS (not that I use it) and no HDMI. A bit heavy as well compared to the newer tablets. A nice plus though is the IPS screen and generally good responsiveness on the touchscreen.
I've seen some offers for quad core chinese tablets at around 170-200$ (dx) but the last ones I've seen a year ago were really terrible: crap screen, crap touch, battery life around 3-4h and very laggy. Not to mention the form factor of a brick with fullsize ethernet and usb. Generally not updateable from GB, but that was more than one year ago.
Or maybe I should jump straight to N7? That's already a bit more expensive and I'm pretty happy with the TP. My parents also don't need any other feature than basic browsing and gallery.
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How do you figure that OAT LNT 1222 should be the fastest ROM for the TouchPad? Maybe you should try a different ROM. Or start from scratch and re-flash the ROM. That could clean some stuff up. As for a tablet for your parents, like others have said, dont buy a chinese tablet. You wont find much, if any, support for them around here. Probably no ROMs or anything. If you hold out longer, it is rumored that the nexus 7 will drop in price this summer. Probably after Google I/O next week.
http://bgr.com/2013/04/03/nexus-77-release-date-reuters-411955/
Here is the Onda V972 and Antutu benchmark. This is based on the current best chipset that the Chinese tablets seem to utilize (A31).
If you like the iPad mini this is also a good option. Onda V813 and the Antutu benchmark
Onda is the same company that makes Archos and is trying very hard to become a reputable brand (at least among the cheap tabs )
Unfortunately the ROM's are not very well optimized and cause lag and some issues. The foremost example would be poor WiFi performance. The Onda models do not have Bluetooth, and the sound quality is frequently reported to be poor (quiet and crackles).
I intend to get one for testing in the near future, I've never had a Chinese tab before.
a new N7 will probably be announced next week
Basic internet peddling and a few basic games and emails... HP Touchpad all the way.
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Current CM9 (latest nightly) and CM10 ( http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouc...L-tenderloin-FOR_LIMITED_TESTING_ONLY_CAM.zip ) have MUCH improved standby time.
I'd suggest doing a fresh install of CM10 from the link above ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284 ) and see
how well it works.
Switch to cyanogenmod immediately! I'm on official 9 nightlys and it's awesome. Don't waste your money.
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Chinese Tablets
Iv'e used the TP for quite a long time. I also checked some of the Chinese tablets and bought one (NOVO 7 VENUS).
After i got that, i did not even feel like touching the TP.
Its Quad Core, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 1280x800 IPS screen with ALPS touch control.
Its for 135 bucks.
For that price, this is a must have. Dont buy another TP. Buy this.
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Iv'e used the TP for quite a long time. I also checked some of the Chinese tablets and bought one (NOVO 7 VENUS).
After i got that, i did not even feel like touching the TP.
Its Quad Core, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 1280x800 IPS screen with ALPS touch control.
Its for 135 bucks.
For that price, this is a must have. Dont buy another TP. Buy this.
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What a terrible suggestion! Ainol make terrible tablets, they have no communities and lack cyanogenmod support (unless you use plenty of patches to get the A10 chip working with it) they're too much hassle, feel very cheap, and preform terribly.
HPTP > anything from Ainol
If there is any chinese tablet I would recommend to you, it would be the Hyundai T7. Its has a quad core Samsung exynos processor!
at 1280*800 IPS Screen, a front 0.3mp camera, and a rear 2mp camera. It supports USB OTG. It also out preforms the Nexus 7 in benchmarks. Its only $148.49!
http://www.pandawill.com/hyundai-t7-quad-core-tablet-pc.html
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What a terrible suggestion! Ainol make terrible tablets, they have no communities and lack cyanogenmod support (unless you use plenty of patches to get the A10 chip working with it) they're too much hassle, feel very cheap, and preform terribly.
HPTP > anything from Ainol
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Have you ever checked the Slatedroid forum? Stop talking crap.
Ainol's tablets are one of the best for the price.
If I wanted to buy a 10 inch tablet, I would buy Cube U30GT2. It has quad-core CPU, 2 gigs of memory, high-PPI display, huge battery, cameras, etc, etc, etc. TP is good, but it's outdated.
I've actually been debating this for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. Because it is this disdain for 4:3 Android tablets (lol), I've either been looking at Chinese tablets or an iPad. The Chinese tablet that has my eye right now is the Freelander PD800HD, with the high res 9.7" screen, Exynos 5250, 2GB RAM, and 16GB storage. I love my TP but right now, it will either be that or an iPad.
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Have you ever checked the Slatedroid forum? Stop talking crap.
Ainol's tablets are one of the best for the price.
If I wanted to buy a 10 inch tablet, I would buy Cube U30GT2. It has quad-core CPU, 2 gigs of memory, high-PPI display, huge battery, cameras, etc, etc, etc. TP is good, but it's outdated.
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Have you owned one? And this is XDA not slatedroid
I've had my TP for a while now and it still does everything I need it to do really but I've been getting the itch to upgrade here recently. More so after Amazon's trade in offer.
I've looked at a few of the Chinese tablets but none of them seem to have a dev community at all which puts a damper on my enthusiasm. Unless manufacturer updates for these tabs is a bunch quicker than their US mainstream brethren, I don't think I could deal. I like updates too much.
Heck, with the recent price cuts to the B&N Nook HD and HD+ (1080p screen amazingly enough) I may just go that route instead of a high powered Chinese tab.
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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pipopipz said:
I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
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I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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Ruud Westerhout said:
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should
I have been reading up on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the TF701T. I really would like some advice on helping to decide which way to go. I will list a few questions I have and concerns I have to see if any of you current users can help lead me to a decision.
Thanks in advance.
I know the primary differences between the 2. What I would like to know is has any one had any issues with rooting or putting roms on this? I have a Galaxy S4 and it really made me shy away from Samsung. I will never buy a phone from them that's for sure. Love the power it has and the screen is decent (a little dark) but getting roms on it is a nightmare. I've had a few different Android devices and loved all of them rooting and replacing the roms have been awesome! I just don't want to get one and find out that I'm going to have the same issues I have with my phone now. I realize that phones are different in the respect to the need to have extra protection requested by the phone companies. Thats why I'm reaching out to you to see what your experiences are.
Needs... I need to be able to use a Gumdrop or Otter box case as I have a 2 and 4 year old that will probably be using it at sometime or another. I also need it to have a decent battery life as I will most likely us it for work and play.
Wants... Speed, reliability, durability, Root, Roms, Games, and expand-ability.
I don't care about the stylus so that's not a reason to get this device. I will want a clean rom without all the Samsung garbage that this send with it.
Hope I can get some help with ideas here as I currently have a TF700T and aside from the ram shortage I love it. But time to give that to the kids and get Dad a new tab.
Again thanks for all the incite and opinions.
DrClaw
Have you taken a look at the Samsung Tab S? It has a incredible screen and has better value for money then Note 10.1 IMHO.
This is a really great device.
I don't think feels bulletproof. But maybe that is why its so light. Its kind of like plastic. The TF101 had a more industrial solid state feel like the surface pro.
I doubt this will be over clocked cause it gets warm. It is probably pushing its limits already.
Overall its quite snappy with great performance especially considering its a mobile device.
This is the only android device I know of that features a dock which is like $150 for me which is why I don't have it yet. That would make it feel more complete I guess.
There's no USB 3.0 Port on the tablet. Don't let the ad fool you. If you want that I guess its just with the dock. The tablet part has a micro HDMI port. That's what fooled me cause I thought it was micro USB. But I got the vivo tab extension which is only USB 2.0.
Performance and high resolution and visual quality for games . Not really an issue with rooting it besides potentially having to flush it down the toilet afterwards.
Thanks
Thanks for the advice this gives me more to look in to. I will broaden my horizons to include these 2 tabs. One thing I didn't mention is that I really want the 10" screen so if they don't sport that I'm going elsewhere. I have a smartphone and computer so when I get a new tab it must be 10".
Again Thanks
DrClaw
Claw22000 said:
Thanks for the advice this gives me more to look in to. I will broaden my horizons to include these 2 tabs. One thing I didn't mention is that I really want the 10" screen so if they don't sport that I'm going elsewhere. I have a smartphone and computer so when I get a new tab it must be 10".
Again Thanks
DrClaw
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ASUS and Samsung devices have pretty much the same amount of bloatware, so be prepared to unlock and root whichever you decide for.
If you are a lot into gaming you will get better gaming performance with a 1920x1080 tablet, like the Sony Z2 Tablet, which is a really nice, waterproof, but expensive tablet. Both the Tegra 4 and Snapdragoon 800 isn't always capable to deliver good fps in graphic intense games with the 2560x1600 displays. On the other hand this displays will of course give you a sharper picture when reading or web surfing.
I got my TF701 on a sale out and for the price I paid I think it is a good tablet, especially the prolonged battery life with the keyboard dock, although I have a hard time to get over how cheap it feels compared to my old TF101.
The Samsung Note 10.1 and Tab S 10.5 have one big advantage over the ASUS TF701: they are much more future proof. For an example they have 3 GB ram and 802.11ac wifi. But most important, IMHO, is that they will get an official Lollipop 5.0 update. The TF701 will _probably_ not, since it was not on ASUS list with devices they are going to update. (There is a chance that ASUS haven't decided yet if the TF701 will get the update or not).
The Samsung tablets also have a wider community development support, meaning more custom roms, custom kernels and other tweaks. And having a offical 5.0 update to base custom roms on is a big plus. (There is two versions of the Tab S: Snapdragon vs Exynos, I don't know if there is any difference in community support.)
I have never liked Samsung that much but the Tab S 10.5 is really worth trying out, the OLED display is amazing and it feels small and liteweight compared to the TF701. The Samsung display is also very good in bright conditions or outdoors, while the TF701 have poor brightness.
Still, if you really want a dock with hardware keyboard and external battery and are prepared to not receive any offical updates in the future the TF701 is IMHO a good buy if you can find it really cheap.
again thank you do much for your reply.
I'm going to be researching these tabs over the holiday weekend. Thanks again for all the insight. Just to be more clear games is not the forefront of my purchase. While I will play some games I have a PC gaming rig for that. So just simple games like the ones u aquire on humble bundle.
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I'm going to be researching these tabs over the holiday weekend. Thanks again for all the insight. Just to be more clear games is not the forefront of my purchase. While I will play some games I have a PC gaming rig for that. So just simple games like the ones u aquire on humble bundle.
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I dont play games either anymore, but i had to say XCom is one amazing beast of a game and the new enemy within expansion. I just had to get it for the PC because the art and visual quality is just fantastic. Really a classic with replay value. Not sure it takes full advantage of this hardware. :good:
99% decided.
After listening to many different opinions and watching videos I'm pretty settled on getting the Samsung Galaxy S 10.5. It was suggested I broaden my horizons a bit to include this tab in my research and I'm glad I did. The performance is identical to the 2014 but it has an LED screen giving it a brighter screen darker blacks and a crisper image. It also has a ROM that removes KNOX. This was a major concern for me because of the dislikes I have experienced with my S4 Phone. Gumdrop also makes a case for this and doesn't make one for the TF701T. I love their cases and as long as they are in business I will be purchasing them. Unless the TF701T pulls out some crazy feats in the next few days I will be purchasing the Tab S.
Thanks to all who have offered their opinions and considerations. I really appreciate them all. If anyone has any last note please don't hesitate to add to the pile I will consider more options.
Dr Claw
Can I use my TF700T keyboard with the TF701?
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Love my Tab S but thinking on upgrading in the near future. What do you guys think is a honorable replacement?
Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Huawei is still making nice high end tablet with 8 inch screen (Mediapad M6), but sadly because of trade war, we're not going to see it on our shores.
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Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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I replaced my T-800 with the Tab S4 when Best Buy was blowing them out at $260 or less this past Christmas.
While my Tab S was very sexy and I had the Logitech Type S keyboard I loved it very much it was a no brainer upgrading at that point.
Here is my thread explaining the $260 sale:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13607677-s...-s4-64gb-tablet-wi-fi-black-260-in-store-ymmv
I would expect the S6 is about to go on deep discount soon so I would be on the look out if you're in the market for a new Samsung Tab.
I just sold off my T-800 in perfect shape, I do plan to hold onto my T-700 as Samsung just does not make sexiness like that any longer.
Hi guys I recently tried to understand whether it was possible to replace my Tab S 8.4 LTE and... I'm astonished. Android tablets are dead. I paid 350€ for this tablet at launch so taking into account 6 years of technological development I was expecting to find at the same price the following specs: 64-128gb of storage, 8gb of ram, same screen since oled technology had some troubles advancing, modern high end processor, a camera with not necessarily more pixels but with less noise and more details, no IR because we don't use TVs anymore.
What I found instead was: crappy low end overpriced tablets, with barely any ram, and no advancements whatsoever in productivity applications. The obvious choice would be to go for an x86 Windows tablet... But I don't dare to run Windows with less than 16gb of ram (any browser uses 5-6gb of ram to begin with with my usage scenario) and onestly those tablets have poor battery life and there are no small tablets to begin with. This leaves only the ipad mini... Which I had terrible experience with (ipad mini 2 was dropped from support and update very quickly and became slow as hell with the last updates it received).
Do you guys have any suggestion? Huaway is out of the question... I don't want to be caught in a stupid useless war.
There is no suitable replacement. I use mine as a phone and there is just nothing with as large a display that has an earpiece that you can hold up to your face and make calls with. I now own 3, 2 working, so I have spare parts as bits break.
Actually that is a usage scenario that happened a couple of times. My phone was temporarily down (anything from a bricked rom to a simply drained battery) and I always simply took the sim out of it, stuck into the tablet and continued my day with no problems whatsoever. Before buying this tablet I was super into the Asus transformer line. A phone that you insert in a screen that becomes a tablet with additional battery life, then you attach the keyboard and bump in terms of productivity. They where unreasonably costly to begin with had bad software support, and super died probably because the company got more money selling separate devices. I tried to create my own version of it with a raspberry pi but it was obviously very clunky.
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subejct and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but havent found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellhphones...
seems like the 8 inchers are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
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hi you all!
i have been researching about this subject and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but haven't found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellphones...
seems like the 8 inches are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Are you using a custom rom?
Tab S 10.1
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Hi yes I'm using the latest Lineage OS Deathly (android 7.1). The rom is probably close to its EOL since there is much less activity and updates. ROM. I've undervolted the tab and put an aluminium bar on the SOC to stop it from overheating... I would not describe the experience as high end but it's way better than before. The same developer made roms also for the WIFi only model and for the 2 bigger models.