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[Q] HSPA+ on T-Mobile

Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!

.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.

ranjan.alva said:
International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?

then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already

But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?

.ili.music.ili. said:
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes

Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.

leppo said:
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.

Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.

gedster314 said:
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far

guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.

If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G

avetny said:
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?

guitarplayerone said:
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.

.ili.music.ili. said:
On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.

ChicoKiri said:
The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.

Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650

.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.

Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile

I know the Verizon version has a locked bootloader but Verizon phones do come unlocked. Does anyone know if the 2014 Moto X will work on T-Mobile? I know it has the correct bands but the LTE/HSPA switchoff has issues maybe? I tried searching but couldn't find anything beyond a video saying they could get up to 3G and that was it.
Asking because someone is selling a Verizon Moto X to me for 250 and it seems like a great deal.

I wish I could give you a definitive answer. I had my VZ note 3 running on T mobile with full LTE band 4. I am not sure whether you can add the new VPN without root. Here is the thread for adding the T mobile VPN. Hopefully someone can expand on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747

From what I can tell, the CDMA version doesn't have the 1700 band for 4G (HSPA+). Without that, you'll only have 4G (HSPA+) in areas where the 1900 spectrum was refarmed, which is usually major cities. Looks like it definitely has 4G (LTE) on band 4 though.
Short answer: Yes it should work. Also, for 250, you might as well try it and then sell it if it doesn't work out for you.

[Q] Nexus 6 on verizon roaming on telus

Hello all,
On my Verizon LG G2 VS985 when roaming in Canada on telus I could get lte.
Same sim card in nexus 6 does not get me lte. Can anyone shed some insight on this as to why?
Any help will be much appreciated, thanks!

do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?

Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.

simms22 said:
do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?
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I do, the data works when roaming, but I don't get lte.
jawmail said:
Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.
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I haven't done back to back swapping, but my brother got his nexus 6 first, and us standing beside each other I had lte, he did not. Now in places where I had lte on my g3, I do not with my nexus 6.
I have it with I believe, so I will test back to back. But I'm not sure when I will have time for that yet. Next few days.
Thanks to the both of you!

simms22 said:
do you have data roaming and national data roaming enabled in the main settings, more, cellular networks..?
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Did you have both phones at the same spot and swap your sim card and one got LTE and the N6 did not? That's probably the best way to test.
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Quoting both of you again only for notification purposes.
Both phones side by each, LG G3 VS985 gets LTE roaming on telus, nexus 6 does not. Neither get LTE roaming on Rogers. On the G3 I can specify telus LTE , but that doesn't work, I have to wait for LTE after selecting the telus hspa network.
Not sure if these are any good, or helpful, but I am attaching 4 logs. Two from the G3, one successfully getting LTE from telus, one failing to get LTE on Rogers. Other two from nexus 6, both shortly after connection drops on telus (when I presume it's trying to get LTE and failing).
Again, if anyone can help, I'm all ears. Thanks!!

Here is the last post to me from the other thread where I started this investigation :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269/page94
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I don't know if it's a Verizon thing, but it seems like LTE roaming is dependent on the software, not necessarily the SIM (at least for Verizon).
Here, you can see the G2 had to be updated just to support LTE data roaming:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ed-calling-1-0-improvements-lte-data-roaming/
So I'm wondering if there's something that need to be updated to enable this. Otherwise, this should work fine. I cannot think of a single reason for this not to work. Telus uses LTE Band 4, which both your Nexus 6 and LG G3 support. T-Mobile's main LTE frequency is also LTE Band 4, and that's the most popular carrier to use the N6 on. So it's gotta be a Verizon-specific configuration file on the phone or something.
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I think Product F(RED) may be onto something, if the G2 needed an actual OTA update to enable LTE roaming.

How about LTE while we roam on Rogers, that would be way more advantages to us since Rogers has way better coverage then Telus
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There is more to it then we think, when I gas a Verizon GS5 I would only roam on Rogers, my wife with her Verizon GS5 roams on MTS, mine would not even see MTS
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It depends on the PRL you have. Its a software thing. By the way, Telus and Bell share towers up here in the land of the great cold, much much better coverage than Rogers. And I mean, much better. Rogers has huge gaps in coverage. And all cellular networks are nonexistent once you get off the beaten path...

I'd like to revive this thread, as we are still not getting LTE while roaming in Canada on our non vzw Nexus s.
Verizon,Motorola, and Google support have been no help.
Can ananyone help?
Thanks in advance

Update: VZW Nexus 6 gets LTE when roaming no matter what. Stock or custom rom, rooted, unlocked, different recovery.
Non VZW nexus 6 does not get LTE when roaming no matter what.
The imei is the only thing left that could be causing this.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

So after a long lengthy process with VZW, they finally after 9 monthes allow non VZW Nexus 6 devices to roam on LTE, Thank you @Enigmafied ???

Can I use a Verizon Note 4 on T-Mobile?

I'm thinking about switching to T-Mobile from Verizon and I just got the Note 4 so I would want to bring it with me. Would everything like LTE work fine on the T-Mobile network?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-t-mobile-network-t2916727

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-t-mobile-network-t2916727
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Thanks. I guess I should have done some research before posting.

con100 said:
I'm thinking about switching to T-Mobile from Verizon and I just got the Note 4 so I would want to bring it with me. Would everything like LTE work fine on the T-Mobile network?
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It won't give you LTE until tmobile activates their band 12 in your neighborhood

Dvanzutphenkann said:
It won't give you LTE until tmobile activates their band 12 in your neighborhood
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LTE Band 4 is enabled on Verizon phones as well. I've used many Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
Verizon GS5, Nokia Icon and the Sony Z3v all work and get LTE Band 4 on T-Mobile.

Does the Nexus 6 get 4G LTE in the US on AT&T's network?

Hi,
I don't want to make the same mistake twice! I bought a Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-L09) and low and behold it does not work with Cricket (my carrier) which runs off of AT&T towers. I tried to make it work with the whole HSPA+ thing but it's really slow, cutting in and out, service bouncing around, problems with the play store, etc.
So if I can find a phone I like that is large and gets 4G LTE - I want to switch. Hence my question about the Nexus 6 . I see that Verizon sells it so I assumed it was a 4G LTE phone but I see a lot of talk on here about HSPA and LTE being "released" for this phone so I don't want to to get one if it's not something that's going to get lte.
Anyone know about the 4G situation with AT&T (NOT TMOBILE - no TMobile access in my area!)?
Thanks in advance! (And sorry I'm spamming this board so much lately with my phone stupidity).

The Nexus 6 XT-1103 is sold by AT&T in the US and works with all AT&T LTE frequency bands. The Nexus 6 XT-1100 (International version) works with some, but maybe not all, AT&T LTE bands.

Adam80 said:
The Nexus 6 XT-1103 is sold by AT&T in the US and works with all AT&T LTE frequency bands. The Nexus 6 XT-1100 (International version) works with some, but maybe not all, AT&T LTE bands.
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Perfect thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know

I used cricket before I jumped to fi and I got LTE
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I'm on Cricket. Lte works great.

chapelfreak said:
I used cricket before I jumped to fi and I got LTE
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Sweet! Just out of curiosity - what's fi?

mojo6911 said:
I'm on Cricket. Lte works great.
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Perfect thanks!

Sunshine32 said:
Sweet! Just out of curiosity - what's fi?
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Project fi by google