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Xperia V can take dip in the pool or in the sea to take pictures?

- IP57 certified - dust and water resistant
- Water proof up to 1 meter and 30 minutes

unicastbg said:
- IP57 certified - dust and water resistant
- Water proof up to 1 meter and 30 minutes
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any type of water? will not affect my water screen with enough amount of chlorine or sea water?

jho07 said:
any type of water? will not affect my water screen with enough amount of chlorine or sea water?
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You should avoid sea water and chlorine. Although I did a test in a pool, it's probably not a good idea. And the screen becomes sticky until cleaned out.
The warranty states that the phone can be exposed to clean water only. Anything else will void it.

I took it with me into the pool and sea a number of times. Water was splashing all over it, here and then I was taking shots from underwater. After finishing however I found some spots water remaining under the cover (outside the sealed area). After each water session it is necessary to immediately rinse the phone with clean water and dry it, in particular the unsealed area under the rear cover (of course not rinse the inside).
To my opinion this is the way all phones should be build. It is nice to know that dropping the device into a water will not kill it, or not needing to worry about transporting it in the outside pocket during my motorbike or bicycle rides. I am not convinced however regarding the long term sealing capabilities of the USB port. I feel there should be a factory charging dock included with the phone, or obtainable for a significantly more reasonable price.than the DK25.

Is it waterproof ??

Something ive been wondering is it waterproof ??
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Something ive been wondering is it waterproof ??
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No unlike the Sony smart watch 2
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Whats the point of a watch if I have to take it off and be careful when washing my hands. ..
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Water resistant, but not meant to be taken swimming, no.

"The Galaxy Gear is rated according to Ingress Protection Rating to be IP-55"
IP55. Ingres protection
For the first digit:
0 = No protection
1 = Protected against objects greater than 50 mm diameter
2 = Protected against objects greater than 12 mm diameter
3 = Protected against objects greater than 2.5 mm diameter
4 = Protected against objects greater than 1.0 mm diameter
5 = Dust protected
6 = Dust tight
For the second digit:
0 = Not protected
1 = Protected against dripping water (i.e. vertical plane)
2 = Protected against dripping water up to 15 degree angle
3 = Protected against spraying water
4 = Protected against splashing water
5 = Protected against water jets
6 = Protected against heavy seas
7 = Protected against effects of immersion
8 = Protected against submersion
There we go.
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This is the water resistance chart for wrist watches. Surprised eh, Not at all what you would expect is it!
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
As one can read, A watch rated at 3ATM cant even be taken in the shower! Don't start me of on this. I have known about this 'con' for many years as I collect watches. I learned a very expensive mistake by taking a multi thousand euro watch into the shower that was rated at 3 ATM or 30M. After all I have never taken a shower at a depth of 30M!
I will only shower or swim in a wrist watch rated at 200m Just to be safe. I change my watch daily, its my hobby. I don't take any of them in the shower. Its now a habit same as removing ones glasses.
I find this acceptable for the Gear. It can take a splash etc but not full immersion-submersion. I have every confidence the Mk11 will have an IP57 or IP58 rating.
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Ryland Johnson said:
"The Galaxy Gear is rated according to Ingress Protection Rating to be IP-55"
IP55. Ingres protection
For the first digit:
0 = No protection
1 = Protected against objects greater than 50 mm diameter
2 = Protected against objects greater than 12 mm diameter
3 = Protected against objects greater than 2.5 mm diameter
4 = Protected against objects greater than 1.0 mm diameter
5 = Dust protected
6 = Dust tight
For the second digit:
0 = Not protected
1 = Protected against dripping water (i.e. vertical plane)
2 = Protected against dripping water up to 15 degree angle
3 = Protected against spraying water
4 = Protected against splashing water
5 = Protected against water jets
6 = Protected against heavy seas
7 = Protected against effects of immersion
8 = Protected against submersion
There we go.
Regards
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This is the water resistance chart for wrist watches. Surprised eh, Not at all what you would expect is it!
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
As one can read, A watch rated at 3ATM cant even be taken in the shower! Don't start me of on this. I have known about this 'con' for many years as I collect watches. I learned a very expensive mistake by taking a multi thousand euro watch into the shower that was rated at 3 ATM or 30M. After all I have never taken a shower at a depth of 30M!
I will only shower or swim in a wrist watch rated at 200m Just to be safe. I change my watch daily, its my hobby. I don't take any of them in the shower. Its now a habit same as removing ones glasses.
I find this acceptable for the Gear. It can take a splash etc but not full immersion-submersion. I have every confidence the Mk11 will have an IP57 or IP58 rating.
Regards.
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Thats actually awesome information. Thanks for this man. I never planned to take it in a pool, but its good to know that if it rains Im not going to sh*t myself worrying about my watch.
After getting that information from you I googled it and came up with this as well:
Pranav Mistry, the lead designer of the Galaxy Gear, tweeted a picture of a kayaking trip purportedly taken from his Gear. The tweet included a message that Gear has a IP rating of 55, which is fairly decent, but still comes up short of the Active's IP67.
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Perhaps nano coating will be possible to increase the resistance. This can be done with most phones nowadays....
Check out Liquipel (Cant post links yet)

http://www.liquipel.com/

I took grave exception to the publicity employed by Sony regarding their range of Xperia Z devices. Water resistance to a given industry code have been employed YET in the Sony manual Sony make it clear that their devices are not to be used in swimming pools nor the sea due to chemical corrosion so what do Sony do they advertise their Xperia range with a chap in a swimming pool?
IF you use the Galaxy Gear while kayaking and the gear becomes immersed the gear would be damaged. The gear, in my opinion, is very much a prototype device that is going to test public demand. I have every confidence the next range of gear watches will have a greater ability to withstand water emersion. My problem is I dislike being the sap who is paying for Samsung's development. This is a 300.00€ device!
It is going to be very limited were we are able to use it. I have still to take the plunge and use mine outside the house. I just cannot imagine myself holding a wrist watch to my face to speak into it. As a child we had a local chap who would do this and we all knew he was gaga
I think a further few months of development would have resolved the water resistant situation. Sony did so.
I ponder what the return rate is going to be?
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It will be waterproof. Since it is a smartwatch so waterproof feature is a must. I hope it is

viduj said:
It will be waterproof. Since it is a smartwatch so waterproof feature is a must. I hope it is
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Did you read the previous posts? IP55 is not even close to being water resistant. Please do read the manual and learn about the Gear before you end up with a paper weight.

it's just water drop proof, not immersion. But i have washed my hands, use it during rain (whitout shirt), with no impact of it.
But didn't tried to immerse it and will not.

nusul said:
it's just water drop proof, not immersion. But i have washed my hands, use it during rain (whitout shirt), with no impact of it.
But didn't tried to immerse it and will not.
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I think it rather unwise for Samsung to introduce a wrist watch that is not at least to IP68. It lives on our wrists and unless we live like pigs we wash our hands multiple time per day. How long do you think we can do this without some drop of water ending up going some where it shouldn't? I don't have the time nor luxury to nurse maid a watch 24-24. Its rather silly really isn't it?

Ryland Johnson said:
I took grave exception to the publicity employed by Sony regarding their range of Xperia Z devices. Water resistance to a given industry code have been employed YET in the Sony manual Sony make it clear that their devices are not to be used in swimming pools nor the sea due to chemical corrosion so what do Sony do they advertise their Xperia range with a chap in a swimming pool?
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Correction the Z1 says that you take it in a pool on the first page of the manual
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sebbo90 said:
Correction the Z1 says that you take it in a pool on the first page of the manual
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I refer you to the manual on the Z that I have quoted here so many times. The Xperia Z could NOT be used in water containing salt nor chemicals. I have no information at all on the Z! I was referring to the Z range this the Z phone and Z tablet. I own both like them very much and in both manuals it is clear they are not suitable for use in swimming pools even though the Sony advertising for both units have a man sitting at the side of a swimming pool and his wife pulling him into the water Phone-tablet in hand.
Perhaps the newer Z! has been further developed and utilises some sort of different material for the water resistant protective flaps.
Oddly I have to add in my case all this is academic as I would not use a phone nor tablet while in the shower, batch, swimming nor beach. It is choice, to me its just absurd that one would become so attached to such a device that they need to take them into the shower or swimming pool?
Each to their own.
I will take a look at the Z1 manual. Interesting to read they are now suitable for use IN the swimming pool. Thanks for the update though:good:
Regards

Ryland Johnson said:
I refer you to the manual on the Z that I have quoted here so many times. The Xperia Z could NOT be used in water containing salt nor chemicals. I have no information at all on the Z! I was referring to the Z range this the Z phone and Z tablet. I own both like them very much and in both manuals it is clear they are not suitable for use in swimming pools even though the Sony advertising for both units have a man sitting at the side of a swimming pool and his wife pulling him into the water Phone-tablet in hand.
Perhaps the newer Z! has been further developed and utilises some sort of different material for the water resistant protective flaps.
Oddly I have to add in my case all this is academic as I would not use a phone nor tablet while in the shower, batch, swimming nor beach. It is choice, to me its just absurd that one would become so attached to such a device that they need to take them into the shower or swimming pool?
Each to their own.
I will take a look at the Z1 manual. Interesting to read they are now suitable for use IN the swimming pool. Thanks for the update though:good:
Regards
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Tbf the only place I used it in a pool was on holiday to take pictures
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sebbo90 said:
Tbf the only place I used it in a pool was on holiday to take pictures
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I just noticed we are debating the Sony Xperia Z in the Samsung galaxy Gear watch forum? How did that happen?

Anybody made the mistake of washing their hands and splashing water on the GG?

jrdejavux said:
Anybody made the mistake of washing their hands and splashing water on the GG?
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It shouldn't be a problem. Just don't dunk it under the water.
IP55-
First 5= Dust protected- Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact
Second 5= Water jets- Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects. Test duration: at least 3 minutes
Water volume: 12.5 litres per minute
Pressure: 30 kPa at distance of 3 m

I bet it would be fine if the gear went under shallow water for a short period. Definitely would be fine for washing the dishes and such.

[Q] Is the original watch strap that comes with the watch waterproof?

I know the watch is waterproof, but is the leather band? I realize it's leather, but there is such a thing as waterproof leather. And why make a watch that's waterproof but give it a band that is not? If you know the answer, please point me in the direction of where you read that it was or was not. Thank you

my watch survived a kayaking experience (along with my s5) without any apparent harm.

Occasional waterdrops is no problem for the strap but it won't like a shower. For a waterproof strap you'll have to change to plastic type.

No, the watch ain't waterproof they way it souds when you say it. You can carefully walk in rain / wash your hands with watch on your wrist, but you can not put it under water (swimming or so) or keep it while going to shower. In fact you can, but it's most likely gonna suck water in.
Read more about IP rating here

It can be under water for short periods, with zero issues.
I've worn mine at a water park, going in and out of water for short periods, zero problems.
The watch is rated IP67. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
Solid particle protection:
6 Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
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Liquid ingress protection:
7 Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). Test duration: 30 minutes
The lowest point of enclosures with a height less than 850 mm is located 1000 mm below the surface of the water, the highest point of enclosures with a height equal to or greater than 850 mm is located 150 mm below the surface of the water
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I still would not recommend outright "swimming" with it. Since that may keep it under for longer than rated. I also would not try a shower, just because depending on the water jets, it's not 9k rated.

How much do you know about the waterproof function of mobile phones?

Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.

Like your thread.

Very good write down. Very helpful
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MirageBlader said:
Very good write down. Very helpful
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Thanks!

Yummy99 said:
Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.
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I have never water damaged a phone which is ip68 and I use them in water a lot. These are just bad manufacturers excuses. As long as you wash the phone off with fresh water and allow to dry properly before charging (and don't buy Sony phones), you're good to go.

Calling it waterproof all the time won't help your point here mate ? it's *water resistant you'll want to put instead.

IP68?

I haven't seen any information on water resistance?

Golf c said:
I haven't seen any information on water resistance?
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Yes it is for sure.

bobby janow said:
Yes it is for sure.
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Hopefully I won't jump into the water like with my 3XL. Which survived twice.

Golf c said:
Hopefully I won't jump into the water like with my 3XL. Which survived twice.
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I actually think they are made for toilet drops not so much diving into the waves. Ok also for that errant thunderstorm. I do like the larger battery though. Bring that in at $599 I'll buy it on day one.

IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)
taken from GSM Arena

Nope, it is IPX8 !
Google: Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529.
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The first digit indicates the level of protection that the enclosure provides against access to hazardous parts (e.g., electrical conductors, moving parts) and the ingress of solid foreign objects.
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X means there is no data available to specify a protection rating with regard to this criterion.
Second digit: Liquid ingress protection
The second digit indicates the level of protection that the enclosure provides against harmful ingress of water.
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8 means that equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Test duration: agreement with manufacturer. Depth specified by the manufacturer, generally up to 3 meters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

Danilo Pantelić said:
Nope, it is IPX8 !
X means there is no data available to specify a protection rating with regard to this criterion.
8 means that equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Test duration: agreement with manufacturer. Depth specified by the manufacturer, generally up to 3 meters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
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IP68 water and dust resistance from Google store website

Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.
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https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US
Same for Europe!
Pixel 5 ist nach IEC-Norm 60529 mit Wasserschutzklasse IPX8 eingestuft. Das Ladegerät und das Zubehör sind nicht wasserbeständig. Wasserbeständigkeit ist kein dauerhafter Zustand, denn sie kann durch normale Abnutzungserscheinungen, Verschleiß und Schäden, Reparatur oder Auseinanderbauen beeinträchtigt werden.
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https://store.google.com/de/product/pixel_5?hl=de-DE

Source.
Materials
100% recycled aluminum enclosure 12
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 6 cover glass
IP68 water and dust resistance 13
13 Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.

uicnren said:
Source.
Materials
100% recycled aluminum enclosure12
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 6 cover glass
IP68 water and dust resistance13
13Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.
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**** your IPX8. Meaningless