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According to Juicedefender battery saver-Autotask killer bad for our battery & which cause more battery draining.they directely said that avoid auto task kill.Is it true?
share your thoughts on that i,e sentence.
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It really depend on how u use ur phone. If u kill task that u do not yse fir a long time it actually save ur battery on the ither hand if u kill an app amd then run it again it will drain mire battery. Also dont kill system app they will just start right up which lead to battery drain. I personnaly use advanced task killer and set ignore the app u often use, dusable autokiller and set security level to low to avoid killing system. But it just a matter of opinion really so just decude for ur self.
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Im using easy task killer for months now. Though I wasn't aware about it draining my battery. Thanks for this info. Though I havent had any issues, still Ill look more to it. :beer:
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It’s still up in the air.
I'm using Advanced taskkiller.should i disable auto taskkiller.or auto taskkiller can effect battery?
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I'm using Advanced taskkiller.should i disable auto taskkiller.or auto taskkiller can effect battery?
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yes, it's better to kill app's manual
I also using two different task killer, but never set them to auto.. just like other opinion, it's true iff we continuously set the app to kill system or app we recently use, it might be drained our battery more effectively.. theoritycally it's just like you do the same task all over again in the same day.. wouldn't it gave you more exhausted than you do it only one time and manage to do it the other day..?
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Here, i give you a reason why autotask killer is battery draining.
#1. Android kills app every 15 minutes when phone is almost out of memory, Android drastically pushes old app process and kill them so currently running app can be running. AutoTask Killer kill app foreground & underground apps process, underground apps generated by app itself, and generating underground app is use some battery & CPU cycle. Android kill app only it's FOREGROUND apps which still save alot battery rather than generate another Underground app which eats battery & CPU cycle.
#2. AutoTask killer kills system app. System app generates more cache & underground process than user apps, since system app always runned by Android for some reason (at JB 4.2.1 it's managed more extensively). Just like reason number 1, underground & cache generating in Android consumes ALOT of battery.
#3. Task killing consumes CPU Cycle, CPU will need to get it's higher hertz to keep speed, higher the CPU, more battery killed
#4. Task killing MAY free RAM, until Android generate another cache which eats up X2 RAM than old cache, since new cache refreshed and need to be intergrated with apps. More RAM, no More Multitasking !
#5. AutoTask Killer make apps process blocked, which slow-down apps, since app cache is deleted. To make the app keep smooth, CPU is set to it's higher hertz, just like reason number 3, higher CPU, more battery killed.
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Here, i give you a reason why autotask killer is battery draining.
#1. Android kills app every 15 minutes when phone is almost out of memory, Android drastically pushes old app process and kill them so currently running app can be running. AutoTask Killer kill app foreground & underground apps process, underground apps generated by app itself, and generating underground app is use some battery & CPU cycle. Android kill app only it's FOREGROUND apps which still save alot battery rather than generate another Underground app which eats battery & CPU cycle.
#2. AutoTask killer kills system app. System app generates more cache & underground process than user apps, since system app always runned by Android for some reason (at JB 4.2.1 it's managed more extensively). Just like reason number 1, underground & cache generating in Android consumes ALOT of battery.
#3. Task killing consumes CPU Cycle, CPU will need to get it's higher hertz to keep speed, higher the CPU, more battery killed
#4. Task killing MAY free RAM, until Android generate another cache which eats up X2 RAM than old cache, since new cache refreshed and need to be intergrated with apps. More RAM, no More Multitasking !
#5. AutoTask Killer make apps process blocked, which slow-down apps, since app cache is deleted. To make the app keep smooth, CPU is set to it's higher hertz, just like reason number 3, higher CPU, more battery killed.
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so a ram manager app or a script for ram is better?
Actually it depends on how you use. I use Advanced Task Killer pro to kill apps after a session and to monitor which apps open by itself and run in background. Those apps are the ones I freeze in titanium backup pro. Some of them are Google Maps, Facebook (I use it rarely, FB app sucks)
Dont use the scheduled auto kill option, that will drain the battery.
Saver battery
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so a ram manager app or a script for ram is better?
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I'm using TouchWiz V5 (JB 4.2.1) + Ram Manager Pro and also Seeder have saver my battery.
I'm not charge my LilG for about 2days and still working fine..
Seeder ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
A little Tip
Our mini can't handle a task killer. I suggest you to not use any of them.
If you want to kill an app, use the "long press back to kill" option in cyanogenmod.
I've seen threads where people said that their i9000 they have ~200 MB of free available RAM. That's really surprising. Can this be caused by a kernel?
I have around 100 MB of free RAM at most times, running CM10, stock kernel.
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When you have big free RAM, it just means your Rom has only a few applications running, maybe because you removed all those apps that you feel are unnecessary or a Task Killer is killing the inactive apps.
See quote of Wikipedia on Android OS Ram Management:
"Since Android devices are usually battery-powered, Android is designed to manage memory (RAM) to keep power consumption at a minimum, in contrast to desktop operating systems which generally assume they are connected to unlimited mains electricity. When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly.
Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves. However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good."
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When you have big free RAM, it just means your Rom has only a few applications running, maybe because you removed all those apps that you feel are unnecessary or a Task Killer is killing the inactive apps.
See quote of Wikipedia on Android OS Ram Management:
"Since Android devices are usually battery-powered, Android is designed to manage memory (RAM) to keep power consumption at a minimum, in contrast to desktop operating systems which generally assume they are connected to unlimited mains electricity. When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly.
Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves. However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good."
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I have cm10 rom so if i didnt use any task killer im getting lags in games.. so do you have any option fir that????
If someone help me i definitely HIT THANKS....
Try changing kernel or increase RAM. Some kernels have an option to increase RAM.
Or it may be necessary to try other Roms.
I'm using C-Rom and I can say I don't experience lag on this Rom.
But some games are just too demanding on RAM, designed for 2 or quad cores, that our phone may not handle.
Which kernel you would recommend to install?
Hello... just want to share my list of frozen apks/services on JB.
If you think that something is risky or some apk's to add on list please do so...
With Nova-launcher i have now around 400MB free and phone is speedy.
Code:
AAT
Application Manager
Backup
Camera Test
Cell broadcast
Chrome
com.lge.appbox.bridge
com.lge.appbox.remote
com.lge.defaultaccount
com.lge.internal
com.lge.lgdrm.permission
com.lge.lgfota.permission
com.lge.permission
DmFAdmin
Downloads
DRM Service
DRM-Protected Content Storage
E-mail
E-mail widget
Face Unlock
Favorites Contact Widget
Google+
Home Theme - biz
Home Theme - Cozywall
Home Theme - Marshmallow
LG MLT
LgInstallService
LGSystemServer
Live Wallpaper Picker
Maps
Media Home
Memo Widget
Music Widget
NFC Service
On Screen Phone
PC Suite Service
PC Suite UI
Picasa Uploader
QSlide Framework
QuickMemo
REmote support Service
RemoteCall Service
SIM Toolkit
Smart Log Service
SmartShare
Software update
Streaming Player
Street View
SystemBackupService
Tags
Talk
TalkBack
VpnDialogs
Weather
WeatherTheme_Optimus_Still
You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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Actually i dont play games at all using for internet, camera, music and phone. =)
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You must be a gamer dude! Your o4x is doing very little with that big list disabled!
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Cant remove some apps , even using Lidroid + Rooted phone. i remove apps , reboot phone , and apps come back from limbo. any ideas ?
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Cant remove some apps , even using Lidroid + Rooted phone. i remove apps , reboot phone , and apps come back from limbo. any ideas ?
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Titanium backup?
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Titanium backup?
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here is my preferred set of apps for the rooted phone
1. Avast Security: Firewall to block certain apps from accessing the internet! And general protection.
2. NoBloat Free: Used in removing the above mentioned apps. Helps to safely backup the apk file and delete it so that we can restore them back later if the need arises.
3. ROM Toolbox Lite: Could be used for many a purpose. But at present I use it to block the ads and prevent autorun services.
4. GSam Battery Monitor: Monitoring battery stats.
5. DS Battery Saver: - My phone never went into deep sleep. With this app it forced the CPU to enter deep sleep whenever screen goes off.
6. LagFix Free: Just like defragmentation in Windows system. Increases read speed of SD card
7. Clean Master: Great task killer, cache cleaner and history wiper. I use it to kill apps on screen off.
8. One Power Guard: Underclock my CPU to certain range. AI mode automatically switches profile. Helps in quicker charging of the battery and also in safe cleaning battery draining background apps.
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Titanium backup?
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Uninstall Master remove all for me ... T Y Guys
If you really want to disable all that i think you are gonna miss some things.. !
Don't uninstall com.lge.internal or your widgets break and everything goes retarded.
uninstalling one or more of these has severe negative side effects. freezing does nothing negative to your comp, but uninstalling totaly borked my phone, wouldn't even boot up.
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uninstalling one or more of these has severe negative side effects. freezing does nothing negative to your comp, but uninstalling totaly borked my phone, wouldn't even boot up.
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dude read the post it say my list f Freeze app no the list to uninstall
If i may add some other apps to this list.
You can also use "SetCPU" (if you don't use "ROM Toolbox" it underclocks the CPU (to what you set it to) to save battery power
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here is my preferred set of apps for the rooted phone
1. Avast Security: Firewall to block certain apps from accessing the internet! And general protection.
Use "Root Firewall" instead, anti-virus apps prove very little need on android, so why use a very resource hogging anti-virus app to manage your firewall.
2. NoBloat Free: Used in removing the above mentioned apps. Helps to safely backup the apk file and delete it so that we can restore them back later if the need arises.
Use "Root Uninstaller instead. In my opinion better looks and more options in one app
3. ROM Toolbox Lite: Could be used for many a purpose. But at present I use it to block the ads and prevent autorun services.
4. GSam Battery Monitor: Monitoring battery stats.
If you just wan't to monitor wakelocks, you can use "Wakelock Detector" instead too.
5. DS Battery Saver: - My phone never went into deep sleep. With this app it forced the CPU to enter deep sleep whenever screen goes off.
Very good and handy app
6. LagFix Free: Just like defragmentation in Windows system. Increases read speed of SD card
7. Clean Master: Great task killer, cache cleaner and history wiper. I use it to kill apps on screen off.
8. One Power Guard: Underclock my CPU to certain range. AI mode automatically switches profile. Helps in quicker charging of the battery and also in safe cleaning battery draining background apps.
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do you guys think lg system server is really safe to freeze?
Dele it if you want I have no problem without it
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Thanks for the list. Here's a tiny glitch I've noticed while deleting these apps (yes, I deleted them). My phone (LG Optimus L4 II E440) worked perfectly, booted with no problems whatsoever, all of the functions were normal except that my home button led was constantly on. I've tried re-flashing it and then removed the apps, but unfortunately with the same consequences. When I restored "LGSystemServer" the glitch somehow disappeared: I have no idea whether it was somehow related to the removal of the abovementioned app, just thought it would be interesting to mention. Thanks.
Hi everyone,
My Tmobile Note 4 lags and freezes quite a bit. I've done many things to include a hard reset, but the lag is back. It can get bad sometimes. So I decided to install Trepn Profiler and the CPU usage for the Samsung Keyboard app varies from 10-30% when the keyboard isn't being used. I tried Greenify, but it won't force close the Samsung Keyboard app. Why is this program using the CPU this much when it's not being used? By the way, the Samsung Keyboard app is always at the top of the list on CPU usage.
In either case, what are your thoughts and how to fix this? What's the best way of tracking down apps that cause this beast to slow down and lag? I have too many apps loaded to uninstall them and track down the culprit or culprits one by one.
Thanks,
GP
AFTER DOING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE INCLUDING THE OPTIONAL ONES YOU'LL GET 12 HOURS OF SCREEN ON TIME
IF YOU EXCLUDE OPTIONAL ONES YOU'LL GET MINIMUM 7+ HOURS OF SCREEN ON TIME
First,obviously, you need a rooted OP3 or OP3T
If your device isn't rooted check this out.
There is several steps to achieve this results,
TAKE A BACKUP
This is the most important. In case you mess something up or this guide doesn't quite work for you, you can always go back to your old setup.
Pick a ROM that works best for you in terms of battery life (I am using this ROM)
Pick a kernel that works well with your requirements and the ROM (I am using Boeffla Kernel)
So the key to achieve the best amount of screen on time is underclocking your CPU and GPU. An average user shouldn't have any problems underclocking but some users that play games or care about benchmarks shouldn't underclock. There is optimal values that I found while messing around in the config app.
After flashing ROMs and kernels don't boot yet! We have more to flash!
Download AKT profiles and flash!
After you've done these you can boot up your OP3/OP3T
Now we have several things to do on the device:
First thing's first, let's tweak the frequencies! The optimal values are around 844 MHz for the little and 1324 MHz for the big CPU and minimum frequencies should be at lowest possible. For the GPU the best value seems to be 401 MHz and again minimum frequency is lowest possible.
Next! Let's set our ROM's battery profile to performance! Wait hold up there wasn't I talking about longer screen on time how is performance profile is going to help? Here is the answer: Since we have already underclocked our CPU and GPU setting this profile to performance will allow things to be used up a little more. And it will make you feel good
Now remember when we flashed AKT Profiles? Now we'll set that to performance.. Oh wait what? Performance again? YES! But we'll pick the most smooth one. Set it to Fusion Performance!
(Optional) Now we have things to do with apps. Download Greenify to hibernate things when you aren't using them. Select apps according to your preferences and hibernate.
(Optional) Now we'll play with some wakelocks. Download a wakelock detector app and monitor the wakelocks. After some amount of time you'll see some useless apps waking your device every now and then. Go to your ROMs wakelock disabled and disable those wakelocks! Show them who is the owner of the phone! (For example you can block The File Manager HD's wakelock since it has no job when screen is off and MX Player's wakelock because again what can a video player app do when you aren't watching anything.)
After this point if you see more lag increase the CPU and GPU frequencies or reduce them if you see no lag and if you want more battery!
This method might not turn out the same for everyone! You might disable some wakelocks that are important for the device and mess up things so be CAREFUL and when hibernating note that all the hibernated apps will stop pushing notifications! So don't hibernate WhatsApp, Messenger etc.
There is a screenshot below as a proof.
I know I've done nothing but writing this but still if you want to donate here it is LOL
*UPDATE*: Blocking the useless wakelocks allow OP3 to survive 24 hours (if you aren't using it at all) only 3G on (no wifi, no GPS ONLY 3G)
what io scheduler and readahead values you use ?
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what io scheduler and readahead values you use ?
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cfq and 1024 the defaults that came with Boeffla