As per subject. I have no need for root access but would like to roll back. Is it possible?
nagel said:
As per subject. I have no need for root access but would like to roll back. Is it possible?
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Of course, just use Flashtool to flash any KitKat ROM of your choice.
Once the new firmware is flashed you will be back to stock, no root.
Peace.
nagel said:
As per subject. I have no need for root access but would like to roll back. Is it possible?
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I rolled back, but rooted at the same time. It took longer, of course, but I couldn't be happier. But next step is to debloat and get rid of all those unnecessary apks that have been added to the stock firmware.
Xperia Lounge my ass
With greenify plus stamina mode, I get fantastic battery life. Other than debloat, what else attracted you to root?
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Ordered an X during the sale yesterday to replace my S3. Was wondering if there is a way to root that retains all OTA functionality. I've heard that it's pretty solid stock so I probably won't be flashing any roms. Just want to keep using TiBU and other apps that require root..
Thanks..
ddiehl said:
Ordered an X during the sale yesterday to replace my S3. Was wondering if there is a way to root that retains all OTA functionality. I've heard that it's pretty solid stock so I probably won't be flashing any roms. Just want to keep using TiBU and other apps that require root..
Thanks..
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Not too sure what you mean by "retains all OTA functionality" If you mean does it change any of the features on the phone? Then yes, rooting retains ALL functionality, it doesn't change the way the phone works at all. You just have the ability and access to change the things you want.
If you mean will you still have the ability to take an OTA then no, rooting prevents you from taking the OTA without additional steps.
BladeRunner said:
Not too sure what you mean by "retains all OTA functionality" If you mean does it change any of the features on the phone? Then yes, rooting retains ALL functionality, it doesn't change the way the phone works at all. You just have the ability and access to change the things you want.
If you mean will you still have the ability to take an OTA then no, rooting prevents you from taking the OTA without additional steps.
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You are 100% on point the phones stays stock but in order for you to take OTA's you will have to return to 100% stock with no root. then take the OTA or in 4.4 case follow the root guide so you can root the 4.4 OTA.
I'm still on MI9 via RDLV and since there's no sign of root for 4.4.2, I'm going to reflash a fresh MI9 with root and then would like to take updates up to MJ5.
Does anyone know if each step will download and install separately? So after I get to MJ5, I can freeze the AT&T update app and stay there? I don't want to jump all the way to KK.
For each update, I plan on using survival mode in SuperSU.
TIA
dawheat said:
I'm still on MI9 via RDLV and since there's no sign of root for 4.4.2, I'm going to reflash a fresh MI9 with root and then would like to take updates up to MJ5.
Does anyone know if each step will download and install separately? So after I get to MJ5, I can freeze the AT&T update app and stay there? I don't want to jump all the way to KK.
For each update, I plan on using survival mode in SuperSU.
TIA
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I'm not one of the more expert opinions, but I am on MI9 and staying. Once you go to MJ5, root is not as easy (Kingo only vs Kingo + RDLV), also Region Lock Away will not work. I also do not see the benefit. I just clean install the rooted MI9, use SafeStrap and wipe away all of MI9 using MJ5 roms in the stock slot.
dave812 said:
I'm not one of the more expert opinions, but I am on MI9 and staying. Once you go to MJ5, root is not as easy (Kingo only vs Kingo + RDLV), also Region Lock Away will not work. I also do not see the benefit. I just clean install the rooted MI9, use SafeStrap and wipe away all of MI9 using MJ5 roms in the stock slot.
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Thanks man - if you load a custom JB ROM into the stock slot, are you able to return to stock MI9 when it's time to sell the phone? Do you know if you can just redo RDLV to MI9 and it'll remove SS, custom recovery, etc?
dawheat said:
Thanks man - if you load a custom JB ROM into the stock slot, are you able to return to stock MI9 when it's time to sell the phone? Do you know if you can just redo RDLV to MI9 and it'll remove SS, custom recovery, etc?
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Absolutely. The RDLV will bring it back to 100% stock and will wipe the internal memory as well. It is like nothing ever happened, and the phone was fresh out of the box.
dave812 said:
Absolutely. The RDLV will bring it back to 100% stock and will wipe the internal memory as well. It is like nothing ever happened, and the phone was fresh out of the box.
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Awesome much appreciated.
I have a rooted s5, stock ROM just rooted to over clock and change emojis, neither of which were worth it. I have the ota alert for lolipop, I want to update, loosing root is fine. I searched about the results of doing ota I got mixed results. Will I brick if I update? Will I loose everything? If there is a thread or post about this and I'm that oblivious, please link it. All help is appreciated
juantrickpony said:
I have a rooted s5, stock ROM just rooted to over clock and change emojis, neither of which were worth it. I have the ota alert for lolipop, I want to update, loosing root is fine. I searched about the results of doing ota I got mixed results. Will I brick if I update? Will I loose everything? If there is a thread or post about this and I'm that oblivious, please link it. All help is appreciated
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Will not update. You need to remove root and get back to 100% stock firmware.
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norbarb said:
Will not update. You need to remove root and get back to 100% stock firmware.
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Is there anyway to do that without losing everything and flashing stock image? Backup I made magically has root
juantrickpony said:
Is there anyway to do that without losing everything and flashing stock image? Backup I made magically has root
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There is info how to get lollipop and keep root. And to keep everything you can use TB or Kies
norbarb said:
There is info how to get lollipop and keep root. And to keep everything you can use TB or Kies
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How would I go about getting to lollipop and removing root along the way while keeping data?
juantrickpony said:
How would I go about getting to lollipop and removing root along the way while keeping data?
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What is your software now?
You can try full unroot in super user app then ADB side load OTA updates.
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norbarb said:
What is your software now?
You can try full unroot in super user app then ADB side load OTA updates.
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Sorry for extremely late reply, I'm running 4.4.2 kit Kat
I want to be as close to stock as possible. Is it possible to flash (with ODIN) 100% stock rom then root with unikernel and remove all the t-mobile apps and knox etc..then go back to stock kernel and unroot? how would I unroot?
anaveragehuman said:
Why would you want to unroot?
I would flash CF-Auto-Root from ODIN, do what I need to do, then open the SuperSU app, scroll down, and click Full Unroot.
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I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .The only time they could do harm is Going to the extent of booting into twrp in which they would not even know the first thing about flashing a zip .
Root her phone debloat it and it's done.
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euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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5.0.2 was good for cf auto
Since 5.1.1 you cant downgrade and requires a rootable kernel and most people do it this way .
Just flash uni kernel v8 tar in Odin and reboot or flash twrp with Odin and then flash the unikenrel v8 zip before you reboot
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androidddaaron said:
my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .
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Exactly. +1
Don't do it, she'll hate you because stuff isn't going to work for her.
Just disable apps she doesn't want and leave stock with everything working.
Pp.
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
MrManH said:
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
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There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
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There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
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These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
MrManH said:
These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
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If you use systemless root, delete /su/xbin_bind and then follow this thread's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659 nothing will be able to detect root without requesting it [which you can deny] and you're golden.
So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to be able to root your phone. A good place to start is the thread on how to back up your TA partition and rooting (don't be tempted by Kingroot)
Unless you want a custom CM rom I wouldn't bother trying to unlock your bootloader, it disables features on the phone, starting with breaking the camera.
This thread about going from a rooted phone back to stock is interesting. I'd say you don't need to root your phone, but it gets a lot more interesting when you do.
The top app for if you get root is Titanium Backup, it lets you control individual apps, 'freezing' them so they stop working, but not actually uninstalling them. Great for getting rid of all the bloatware that comes with phone providers (like Sim Lock), or even manufacturers. It also lets you back up an app and all the associated data that goes with it, so if you wipe you phone to change the rom, you can put all the apps back and the state they were in at the touch of a button. There's lots of other cool root apps, but TA is my favourite.
As long as you stick to stock then you can't go wrong, don't be afraid to play, there's plenty of people on the thread here to give you a hand.
SLIM 5 is a good stock 5.1.1 rom with lots of cool tweeks and doesn't mean you have to unlock your bootloader.
Edit: Rooting your phone doesn't void your warranty. But if you face any problems with your phone that means it's going back to the service centre, just put a stock build back on (no root) and do a factory reset. That way they cannot complain about the software config. They will do a factory reset anyway, before they send it back, along with an update to the latest rom. So be prepared and take everything off your phone beforehand.
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
UndisputedGuy said:
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
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Marshmallow has only been out a few weeks, so it's still full of bugs and problems at the moment. I would stick to 5.1.1. for at least another month, or until 6.1 reaches the Z3c.
No, if you install a custom rom then you wont get Sony OTA updates, but most rom developers base their builds on the latest firmware releases anyway, usually adopting a new release within one or two weeks.
Slim 5 is possibly the best stock Lollipop build there is and there will be no more updates for Lollopop now. There is a Slim MM build, but even though Wajk has been working his magic, it still has several bugs that need to be ironed out. If you are going down the MM route, don't be tempted by Concept or Beta, that need you to unlock your bootloader to root. Stick with a pre-rooted stock or a customised stock with root built in.
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
UndisputedGuy said:
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
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For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
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For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
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Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
UndisputedGuy said:
Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
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Yes, once you have recovery you can download Slim onto your phone and flash that. Don't forget to update SuperSU from the playstore.
No, you wont get any OTA updates with a custom stock, but Slim is up to date with the most recent Lollipop build.
Sony PC Companion will not update your phone either once you have a custom rom on. If you flash stock and then connect it, it will push MM onto it. But you will loose root and there's no easy way to get it working.
Stick with 5.1.1. for another month, wait for 6.1 to come out, and then possibly a couple of weeks after that Wajik will have made an incredible MM rom to flash, that will be as up to date as they come, then just flash that in exactly the same way.
Edit: Once you start to follow a developers thread, they announce updates to roms almost as quick as the Sony release, so don't worry that it will get out of date, just make sure to subscribe to the thread where your rom comes from. Slim 5 for example releases an OTA update, to move from 4.9 to 5, it's a lot smaller than the entire rom and only has updates, but flashes the same way.
Can only thank you again, successfully rooted and got recovery. Not sure how much I'm really fond of SLIM, just had a very brief mess around but something felt a bit off about the Launcher and the icons even after messing with the settings. It was only very brief though, perhaps there's more useful stuff there.
Might go simply stock/rooted but given there isn't a simple .zip for it it's a bit long winded
Thanks for all your help here, this is pretty much the ideal state I wanted my phone to be in upon receiving it, had no idea unlocking the bootloader wouldn't be necessary. Guys like you help make this site in my opinion, I half just expected a couple of snide answers telling me to just read the forum
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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UndisputedGuy said:
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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There are several 'stock' options, that are flashable zips
Pre-Rooted Firmwares-Recovery-SuperSU, although you need to click on 'older files'
Or another stock thread here
But by now you should be able to start finding these threads on your own
Yeah, I've time to have a proper look through now so will do that. I saw the thread earlier, but didn't seem to notice a pre rooted .zip for the latest 5.1.1 firmware in the OP. There was one in the comments though, thanks once again