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Is there any work being done for a temporary Root option? I ask because it seems that I only need Root for certain issues!
Scenario: Access my hosts file, Tor...etc!
TIA
What is the benefit to only being rooted temporarily? Honestly there isn't a huge security benefit to it, and usability suffers because you have to root it when you want to do anything in your scenarios.
Why not just use SuperUser.apk and not have it remember any associations? That way you only authorize root privileges when you need them, but can stay rooted.
Temp rooting shouldn't even be released for this since we have a permroot so either root your xoom and leave it that way or stay stock
I wouldn't mind a temp root because I haven't rooted from the start, waiting for the 4G upgrade, and because fastboot oem unlock requires a wipe, I don't want to do it, then restore, then do it again. A temp root would be perfect.
I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...
flamingblue8z said:
I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
Not getting what the issue is here either. With superuser you have full control over what app has root access and which not. Root access can be granted and revoked at any time. So certain "things" can have root access, certain not...
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.
This would be useful if you wanted to watch movies from the Market but still wanted to use other things that required root access. Reboot clean, watch movies, run root app, make backups.
My wife's MyTouch 3G Slide had a temporary root app that she only needed when she needed to use the phone as a WiFi Hotspot.
JohannFaust said:
I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.
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The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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I still think a temp root solution would have been nice. Because I just rooted (which is less root, more NAND unlock) so I could upgrade to 3.2 and have full root functionality from MyBackup Pro. Some stability issues, but I will try reflashing in a bit. Would have really been nice to back everything up first, though.
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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This is also why the first thing you should do is fastboot oem unlock. You haven't rooted and all apps will still work. But if you decide to root later, you will not loose anything.
playya said:
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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No no, I have my apps already backed up by MyBackup Pro. Its my APP DATA, the save games n'at, that I was trying to back up. Its a moot point now, for me, since I already bit the bullet and rooted, but it would have been valuable to others.
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The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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Not true at all. The Droid X could get permanent OR Temp Root from Z4root, as could MANY phones on froyo. It could Temp root 99% of phones on froyo or earlier according to the developer and the numerous people chiming in that it worked for htem. Some things i just want temp root, so i can backup or access some file. Otherwise, i don't need root full time on this tablet, didn't need it full time either on my Galaxy tab, which i also could Temp root with Z4Root. And did numerous times with ease and no problems
Some of us don't need permanent root. Why is that so hard to understand. I have full root on my X, don't need that on my tablet. Biggest reason is for what was listed, don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me. If you want root with a Xoom you realy need to do it from day 1 so you lose nothing.
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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No offense but by saying that you don't know how linux works... If you are on the command line in Linux and type SU or SUDO plus a command after it you gain TEMPORARY ROOT for that command once you put in the password. It is TEMP, after that command passes you are normal user again. Yes you can root yourself full time, but that is a silly thing to do on a linux system and removes a lot of security. Not hard to plug in a password the few times you need to access stuff or edit things
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don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me.
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that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?
Guys
Mybackup Root Androidcommander Titanium Backup can all put your rom back to where it was in minutes. It takes longer to.read why you don't want to root than it would take to restore IMO. Don't root of you don't want to but really do t use the my programs line..
No disrespect though just think with what we have today restoring is not that not big of a deal and after you root clockwork and nandroids are your best friends
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IceCreaMan said:
that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?
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Yup thats holding me back, too. Unlike my phones (Hero and Desire) I have not rooted my Xoom on the first day just because I was unsure if I would keep it. Now I am stuck in this mess while one side of me wants to root and install 3.2 and the other side doesn't want to lose all the progress made in the apps/games/whatever...
Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
stepinmyworld said:
Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
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you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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Thank you! Awesome
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
EugeneR said:
One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
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well i don't think so... if you do not want to be rooted you have to remain with the stock rom and i don't know if every mod is compatible with that
Root issues
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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I did the same. I just flashed CWM Touch Recovery and Superuser, but AdAway disables every time I reboot and I can't get rid of the Google Bloatware and FB/Twitter - which I don't use. I tried deleting them using ES File Explorer, but they come back every time I reboot. Please help. I hate having the bloatware and knowing that it takes up almost 150 MB makes me mad!!!
/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
Ah!
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/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
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Ah! I see. Do you know of any kernel that I can safely flash and not break my phone? It's only a week old and I don't want to end up bricking it or something. Also, do you know if I can still receive OTA updates from HTC? Whenever they do come out, that is. Sorry to be asking such a noob-ish question..
Also, is that the same reason AdAway gets auto-disabled at every boot?
Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
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Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
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Can you please tell me what the potential issues are, if I flash the kernel? Also, please let me know about the OTA updates and if it'll work after rooting and/or flashing a new kernel. Thank you!
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank you for allaying my fears. I flashed the faux123 kernel because it was suggested "first!" Working fine now. I rebooted and the apps haven't come back after uninstalling them. Thank you so so much for educating me!
PS: How do I Thank you officially? Is there some thank button on here?
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IIHomieII said:
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank button found and clicked!
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
Belongs in the Q&A section
bipoler said:
Belongs in the Q&A section
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You're right im sorry guys
Any possbility of a mod moving it?
marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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Root if something you want needs it, otherwise there's not any need. Do you need tomatoes? I dunno.
marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!
I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.
mgbotoe said:
As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!
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Thank you for your input, yes I do have things such as you listed for rooting! Merry Christmas!
chong67 said:
I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.
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Thanks for the response! I think I know what I'm doing now [emoji14]
Merry Christmas!
Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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donnyp1 said:
Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away
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Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away
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Thanks dude, im on tmobile. Root then backup!
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Its done. I voided it!
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Rooted is the way to go! Only reason I haven't rooted yet is because I'm waiting for Android 5.0 to drop next month hopefully ! Then I will gladly root. Phone is much better when it is under your control.
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT
Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix (old fix)
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.
Updated previous post with some links to possible fixes.
virtualdj said:
Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix?
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.
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I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health. I guess the issue is when you're only rooted on stock ROM. But apparently there's walkarounds for those issues.
shook187 said:
I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health.
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Thanks, but actually I was interested on (possible) issues on stock ROM and, most importantly, if the walkarounds really work.
Ive uploaded a fully working root method of kingoroot that roots the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 LMY48B firmware
I have used it myself with uk stock nexus 5 and all works just thought i would upload so other people can benefit from this instead of using a pc enjoy
anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
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anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
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working fine.. tested by me
Yes, this can also root from COMPLETE stock without the need of a computer of any kind. May want to add that to thread title if possible to let others know it can be used to root LMY48B(At Least) without the need of a computer to unlock bootloader first and without the need of a custom recovery first. Just install Kingroot then use KingUser(I Believe That Is The Super User App It Installs, Do NOT Install Another SuperUser App Yet Until After Custom Recovery Installed) and use KingUser to allow custom recovery App permissions to install recovery then use that recovery to install SuperUser binaries properly.
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Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
GldRush98 said:
Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
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He just said why on the first post...lol
So you dont need a pc
Its just an easier method if you ask me and for unlocking bootloader you just need to download the nexus 5 unlock bootloader app from google play to unlock bootloader then just install twrp manager from google play and theres your root bootloader unlock and custom recovery but thats upto the user as other people do it there way
It's remarkable what I'm willing to download and install from XDA sometimes.
Anyway, it certainly rooted my device without needing to hook it up to a PC. Threw two "this is bypassing android security" messages. Hope it didn't do anything else :/
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
EPayne123 said:
All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
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Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
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Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
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Failed to install returning SuperSU?
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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ddimple4 said:
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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No, wiping data only happens when you unlock bootloader through the bootloader. . . not through the OS. I believe only of you use the Farnborough method instead of manually doing so inside of OS
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My friend has nexus 5 tmobile. Will this work? If so any additional steps?
Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
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may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
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Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
lookgod88 said:
Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
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The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
p.s. that means you need an unlocked bootloader to root, meanwhile can keep all other things (recovery, firmware) as stock.
DummyPLUG said:
The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
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Oh I see. Now I understand! Thank you very much. I got what I want to know.
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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Well if you like to theme layers works naively on M. You just need root and a kernel that allows r/w. That's one good reason for it.
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jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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For me, adaway and debloating are big. Custom kernal so I can properly adjust my screen calibration to. Its way to yellow on the nexus 6.
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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to access system files, to change or delete them. cant do it without root. to make sure that my n6 is the fastest n6 around. but thats just one if many reasons. no, you do not need root to flash roms or kernels. you do need root to use the apps to control them.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
For me, adaway and debloating are big. Custom kernal so I can properly adjust my screen calibration to. Its way to yellow on the nexus 6.
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Can you have an expanded desktop and pie controls without rooting on M? Those would be amongst my main reasons at this point. Thanks!
jsk108 said:
Can you have an expanded desktop and pie controls without rooting on M? Those would be amongst my main reasons at this point. Thanks!
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yes. you can flash a rom that has them included. you do not need root to flash a recovery, nor do you need root to flash roms/kernels.
Root is a necessity for since I need to block ads. So basically for Adaway.
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One word: Xposed
Astro file manager can't seem to access my internal sdcard suddenly. Also life without Adaway is intolerable. Don't they realize we escaped to the internet to get away from overbearing ads?
change build.prop to allow wifi tethering and add few other items I think my phone should have that the carrier doesnt
simms22 said:
yes. you can flash a rom that has them included. you do not need root to flash a recovery, nor do you need root to flash roms/kernels.
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I really had no clue that you didn't need Root to flash a Rom.. This is my first Nexus device. I have owned 5 android devices and always rooted to flash custom roms. You just blew my mind.
tj_ona said:
I really had no clue that you didn't need Root to flash a Rom.. This is my first Nexus device. I have owned 5 android devices and always rooted to flash custom roms. You just blew my mind.
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you do not need root, but you need an unlocked bootloader and to fastboot flash twrp recovery(so you can flash roms or kernels). the only thing that you would need root for is an app to control kernels. but if youre not into controlling kernels, then no root is needed
I didn't even root my phone on Lollipop. Made a few changes in recovery, and had custom recovery, but that was the extent of my changes.
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sansnil said:
One word: Xposed
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Unfortunately, Xposed isn't out for Marshmallow yet.
I unencrypted and the only benefit I see to not having root is that you can do OTA's but since unencrypting and custom recovery took that away I might as well get root and enjoy viper4android, ad-block, custom kernels, play music exporter, no nag tethering (yes I pay for it, just hate when the checking subscription stalls cuz AT&T can't be bothered to fix it), etc.
JimSmith94 said:
Unfortunately, Xposed isn't out for Marshmallow yet.
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I know that, but it will be eventually.
Titanium Backup.
Pretty much the same reason to root L.
Can't think of a single root function that's now stock?
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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If you're not sure if you want to root it, then don't.
scryan said:
Pretty much the same reason to root L.
Can't think of a single root function that's now stock?
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App permissions management used to require root and is now stock on 6.0. That's the first thing that pops into my head....