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Asking for your input on whether I should root

Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf

Yes you should root it if you want to use usb-otg. I decided not to root mine on day one and now I'm looking for a method that won't erase everthing on my device. So if you see yourself needing that in the future do it now rather than later .

shemsha said:
Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf
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This is a Nexus device which makes to easy to root and unroot..
If an OTA comes out you can be unrooted and back stock in a matter of minutes..
Oddly, I have had no reason or desire to root my N7 and I even put my GNex back stock...

If you do root, do it before you install all kinds of stuff. You have to reset to root. Not sure how the Google credit works, but you might want to register the device, get the credit, then root. Just in case.
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I was reluctant to root or not. CM10 is only a preview, other roms not much better than stock, I don't need OTG, so why root? For one crucial app: TITANIUM BACKUP. When you unlock and root everything is wiped!

My suggestion is unlock the bootloader right away since that part wipes data, then root when (and if) you decide to download an app that needs root access.

Easier to Root now rather than later. Rooting requires you to wipe losing all apps and settings.
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Yes. First thing I always do on a Nexus device is unlock and root. It's just as easy to lock it again and flash the stock rom if ever needed.

I would unlock the bootloader at a minimum, before you set anything up, as that action will wipe data. If you decide to root later on you'll be in great shape.
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Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?

I rooted mine using the One click root tool, very easy.
Got to be worth it to install ad block and sixaxis.

Like others have said, at the very minimum, unlock the bootloader (a prerequisite for rooting) right away. If you decide to unlock it later you'll have to wipe the device.

Absolutely. Just make sure you bookmark (in the cloud) how to unroot before you root (including restoring stock bootloader). It would also be smart to read what issues other folks have had, and what they did to solve their problems. (In short, always have a concrete, detailed exit plan before you start something.)
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shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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That is an excellent point I am very anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.

shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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clago87 said:
That is an excellent point I anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.
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Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)

krelvinaz said:
Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)
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I am actually glad to be at work for once. I am very easily swayed and am ready to unlock and root lol. I have read all the info on it and it does not seem too much of a burden compared to my atrix

I'm kind of confused, do I unlocked the bootlocker first or install 4.1.1 updates?
If I install then unlock, would the updates be gone?
Would I be able to update even after unlock and root?

i rooted even though i had already installed apps etc... its very handy to be able to use external storage and apps like titanium backup.. i dont really intend installing customs roms.. but the otg support was enough to warrant rooting for me

You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.

hydroxyde said:
You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.
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Yep was just about to say this, picked this method up in the OneX forums, life saver
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Rooting the note 3

I've searched high and low for a root for my new galaxy note 3. I've seen somethings say the las vegas one or whatever but it couldn't be done on 4.4.2 kitkat. I've seen something about kingo. Which is the best method to root and unlock my boot loader so that i can flash roms.
Samsung galaxy note 3
Android version 4.4.2 kitkat
model- SM-n900a
Thank you in advance for your help! :good::laugh:

No rooting yet and there hasn't been unlocked bootloaders on the AT&T Note 3 yet.
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really???? bummer

A root method for 4.4.2 will be found eventually, so try to tough it out until its found. Not having root sucks, but it will hopefully come soon. An unlocked bootloader will most likely never happen unless someone holds the CEO of AT&T hostage (any volunteers?), so no custom kernels or AOSP for us unless someone gets Loki working.

Face_Plant said:
A root method for 4.4.2 will be found eventually, so try to tough it out until its found. Not having root sucks, but it will hopefully come soon. An unlocked bootloader will most likely never happen unless someone holds the CEO of AT&T hostage (any volunteers?), so no custom kernels or AOSP for us unless someone gets Loki working.
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I'm glad your that positive that a root method for 4.4.2 will be found, however (not to be a negative nelly) KK has some security features that Google has added, that would make it even harder to achieve root. That, with the added AT&T "updated" locked bootloader, would make it almost impossible to obtain root. Then, adding salt to the wound, the new S5 has just been released, so every DEV that's worth their salt would want to hop on the new tech bandwagon and tackle something new.
I personally don't care about root. I never rooted my Note 3 until the OTA update, which kept getting stuck at 27%. I followed the instructions to obtain root, installed the OTA update, but FORGOT TO UNROOT my phone!!! That stupid SU app is in the way, and I can't uninstall it! When it comes time for me to upgrade my Note3 to a Note4, anyone can simply look in my app draw and see SU app. Even ISIS wont work because it thinks my phone is rooted. I want to simply root my phone, delete that SU app, and un-root. It's that simple. If I can do this using ADB, i'll try it in a heartbeat.

awe that sucks..hopefully someone comes up with some thing soon. Thanks for your replies. When they do come up with a root method would we still be able to flash roms being that our bootloader is locked?

dunn816 said:
I've searched high and low for a root for my new galaxy note 3. I've seen somethings say the las vegas one or whatever but it couldn't be done on 4.4.2 kitkat. I've seen something about kingo. Which is the best method to root and unlock my boot loader so that i can flash roms.
Samsung galaxy note 3
Android version 4.4.2 kitkat
model- SM-n900a
Thank you in advance for your help! :good::laugh:
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At this time there is no way to root KitKat, period, either with De La Vega, or Kingo. In addition, the bootloaders are totally locked down. There currently is a petition here, to see if we can get AT&T to unlock them
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dunn816 said:
awe that sucks..hopefully someone comes up with some thing soon. Thanks for your replies. When they do come up with a root method would we still be able to flash roms being that our bootloader is locked?
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Search through the forum, there is a way to flash custom ROMS, just not in the typical way

lawalty said:
I'm glad your that positive that a root method for 4.4.2 will be found, however (not to be a negative nelly) KK has some security features that Google has added, that would make it even harder to achieve root. That, with the added AT&T "updated" locked bootloader, would make it almost impossible to obtain root. Then, adding salt to the wound, the new S5 has just been released, so every DEV that's worth their salt would want to hop on the new tech bandwagon and tackle something new.
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It still doesn't hurt to look up. The S5 is locked down tight just like the Note 3 so I don't see why devs would dump the Note 3 just to work on another locked device. The Note 3 is still relatively new and pretty popular so I doubt it's going to be given up on just yet.

[Q] Should I try Stock Andoroid before CM12?

My Nexus 6 has finally shipped! It should be here Friday!
This is my first Nexus and I have never rooted, unlocked, flashed, etc. any of my previous phones.
I have been doing a lot of research and have been considering running CM12.
My question is, should I run my Nexus 6 with stock android for a few weeks and then try CM12? Or should I just root, unlock, and flash CM12 as soon as I get it?
I know that if I wait then I will need to back up all my data because it will factory data reset but I am not worried about that... I understand it is easier to do it right out of the box because you don't have to worry about loosing anything but I can just back my info/apps up so that isn't a big deal.
Also, would you guys suggest something over CM12? Right now I am planning on using CM12 and just getting it setup how I like it then leaving it. I don't plan on always flashing and making changes but I might get sucked into it lol
Thanks everyone!

Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
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DebianDog said:
Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
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Good point! I don't know if CM is on 5.1 yet. I just assumed it was but I will look into it. This is all new to me so thanks for pointing that out, didn't even think about that!
I won't know what version is on the phone until Friday. But even if it is on 5.0 I am sure it will notify me that 5.1 is ready to download as soon as I boot up the phone.

On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.

DebianDog said:
On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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Okay, thanks for the info!
Since I ordered my phone directly from Google, do I need to debloat? Or is that just for carrier versions?

mlin said:
I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.
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Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.

Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.

CFrance said:
Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.
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I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.

Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.

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Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.
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Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
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DebianDog said:
Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
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I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.

My two cents. I don't think you've dealt with enough newbies. on another forum it was me and a group of others that would help people get their phones out of boot loops and soft bricks. I have literally helped hundreds of people get their phone back.
even if you look here on XDA you'll see people trying to flash the wrong files download files that are not even for their phone, are following a dated instruction or don't really understand how directories work.
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DebianDog said:
Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.
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Thanks for the info! I actually had just downloaded this program over the weekend and was planning on using it once I do decide to root... which I am thinking will be as soon as I get the phone. lol other than that I think I am going to run it on stock for a while at first and wait until CM is on 5.1 for a while....

mlin said:
I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.
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Thanks! I am planning on rooting and unlocking right away for TB and maybe a couple other little things like lightflow just for fun. Being the nerd that I am, I have a feeling that once I start playing with the whole rooting, unlocking, and flashing stuff I am going to really enjoy it.

gee2012 said:
I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the reply! I see what you are saying, I had already come across Wug's toolkit over the weekend and was planning on using that because it seemed so simple.
However, seeing how I still have two and a half days until my phone will be here, maybe I will look into the manual way a little more to decide which route I want to go.... Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!

Boot into download mode, Unlock bootloader, reboot, boot back into download mode, fastboot twrp recovery, boot into recovery, reboot via recovery and install su when prompted. When you boot into android you will be prompted to update su. You now are rooted. Only other thing I would think about when you first get your device is if you want forced encryption. You will be required to wipe SD data if you decide to go with non forced encryption.
I loved cm on my previous touchwiz devices because I like stock/asop style. I find cm has bugs in early os update releases. I would only install cm if i took advantage of themes which I don't.

CFrance said:
Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!
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You can waste a lot of time while you're waiting for your phone in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992769
ROM Reviews (5.1) + Nexus 6 Hacking: NRT · Apps · Utilities [3.22.15]
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Temporary root to debloat? possible to unroot

I want to be as close to stock as possible. Is it possible to flash (with ODIN) 100% stock rom then root with unikernel and remove all the t-mobile apps and knox etc..then go back to stock kernel and unroot? how would I unroot?

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Why would you want to unroot?
I would flash CF-Auto-Root from ODIN, do what I need to do, then open the SuperSU app, scroll down, and click Full Unroot.
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I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.

euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .The only time they could do harm is Going to the extent of booting into twrp in which they would not even know the first thing about flashing a zip .
Root her phone debloat it and it's done.
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euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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5.0.2 was good for cf auto
Since 5.1.1 you cant downgrade and requires a rootable kernel and most people do it this way .
Just flash uni kernel v8 tar in Odin and reboot or flash twrp with Odin and then flash the unikenrel v8 zip before you reboot
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androidddaaron said:
my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .
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Exactly. +1

Don't do it, she'll hate you because stuff isn't going to work for her.
Just disable apps she doesn't want and leave stock with everything working.
Pp.

I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.

MrManH said:
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
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There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.

cwhiatt said:
There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
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These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).

MrManH said:
These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
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If you use systemless root, delete /su/xbin_bind and then follow this thread's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659 nothing will be able to detect root without requesting it [which you can deny] and you're golden.

Is rooting with Magisk possible?

Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!

I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
Edit: Typos.

F0rbidN said:
Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!
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If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.

Misterxtc said:
If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.
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I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.

zerolock said:
I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
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Will I have to do a factory reset in order to root my device?

F0rbidN said:
I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.
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You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.

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Banking apps will work once able to flash Magisk, simply using a system-less root method will allow for work arounds such as Magisk hide etc. which will definitely allow for such apps to work. Exactly as has been seen for the past few generations of devices using Magisk! Anyway... on another note, yes bootloader will very likely be unlockable on Exynos variants allowing for TWRP and custom rom installation but highly unlikely on Snapdragon variants.

Misterxtc said:
You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.
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Are you sure about permanent block ?!

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Are you sure about permanent block ?!
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Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.

Misterxtc said:
Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.
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i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.

Wish SuperUser root XDA god 'Chainfire' hadn't retired!

A0_o said:
i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.
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Are you talking about sig. spoofing like Firegapps and stuff?
I'm waiting for anyone who has enough guts to try, all I really want is v4a.
This is the last galaxy I buy I think, prolly go one plus next time. But yea this is a waiting game. I'm waiting for someone to bribe the dev's to prenstall v4a for us in an ota update. Hey be a great April fools joke ....heh