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Temporary Root for Xoom?

Is there any work being done for a temporary Root option? I ask because it seems that I only need Root for certain issues!
Scenario: Access my hosts file, Tor...etc!
TIA

What is the benefit to only being rooted temporarily? Honestly there isn't a huge security benefit to it, and usability suffers because you have to root it when you want to do anything in your scenarios.
Why not just use SuperUser.apk and not have it remember any associations? That way you only authorize root privileges when you need them, but can stay rooted.

Temp rooting shouldn't even be released for this since we have a permroot so either root your xoom and leave it that way or stay stock

I wouldn't mind a temp root because I haven't rooted from the start, waiting for the 4G upgrade, and because fastboot oem unlock requires a wipe, I don't want to do it, then restore, then do it again. A temp root would be perfect.

I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...

flamingblue8z said:
I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.

Not getting what the issue is here either. With superuser you have full control over what app has root access and which not. Root access can be granted and revoked at any time. So certain "things" can have root access, certain not...

cwizardtx said:
Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.

This would be useful if you wanted to watch movies from the Market but still wanted to use other things that required root access. Reboot clean, watch movies, run root app, make backups.
My wife's MyTouch 3G Slide had a temporary root app that she only needed when she needed to use the phone as a WiFi Hotspot.

JohannFaust said:
I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.
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The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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I still think a temp root solution would have been nice. Because I just rooted (which is less root, more NAND unlock) so I could upgrade to 3.2 and have full root functionality from MyBackup Pro. Some stability issues, but I will try reflashing in a bit. Would have really been nice to back everything up first, though.

Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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playya said:
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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This is also why the first thing you should do is fastboot oem unlock. You haven't rooted and all apps will still work. But if you decide to root later, you will not loose anything.

playya said:
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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No no, I have my apps already backed up by MyBackup Pro. Its my APP DATA, the save games n'at, that I was trying to back up. Its a moot point now, for me, since I already bit the bullet and rooted, but it would have been valuable to others.

bwcorvus said:
The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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Not true at all. The Droid X could get permanent OR Temp Root from Z4root, as could MANY phones on froyo. It could Temp root 99% of phones on froyo or earlier according to the developer and the numerous people chiming in that it worked for htem. Some things i just want temp root, so i can backup or access some file. Otherwise, i don't need root full time on this tablet, didn't need it full time either on my Galaxy tab, which i also could Temp root with Z4Root. And did numerous times with ease and no problems
Some of us don't need permanent root. Why is that so hard to understand. I have full root on my X, don't need that on my tablet. Biggest reason is for what was listed, don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me. If you want root with a Xoom you realy need to do it from day 1 so you lose nothing.

cwizardtx said:
Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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No offense but by saying that you don't know how linux works... If you are on the command line in Linux and type SU or SUDO plus a command after it you gain TEMPORARY ROOT for that command once you put in the password. It is TEMP, after that command passes you are normal user again. Yes you can root yourself full time, but that is a silly thing to do on a linux system and removes a lot of security. Not hard to plug in a password the few times you need to access stuff or edit things

Legato Bluesummers; said:
don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me.
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that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?

Guys
Mybackup Root Androidcommander Titanium Backup can all put your rom back to where it was in minutes. It takes longer to.read why you don't want to root than it would take to restore IMO. Don't root of you don't want to but really do t use the my programs line..
No disrespect though just think with what we have today restoring is not that not big of a deal and after you root clockwork and nandroids are your best friends
Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread

IceCreaMan said:
that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?
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Yup thats holding me back, too. Unlike my phones (Hero and Desire) I have not rooted my Xoom on the first day just because I was unsure if I would keep it. Now I am stuck in this mess while one side of me wants to root and install 3.2 and the other side doesn't want to lose all the progress made in the apps/games/whatever...

[Q] Which method for rooting should I use?

I'm as new as they come when rooting devices, although I was able to successfully root my previous tablet, a Galaxy Tab 2 without issue but that's besides the point.
Point is I'm looking to finally root my Nexus 7, I've had it since last December and never really saw a need to do it, but the appeal of being able to customize it in any way I want to proved too much to resist and I'm ready to take that step.
However I've come across with two different methods to root my device, one that requires unlocking the bootloader and one without, the Nexus Tool Kit and djrbliss motochopper's tool kit that doesn't require unlocking the bootloader.
I myself am worried about losing my data and depending on the method suggested will back up my data using the adb backup, but what do the kind people here recommend for a first timer?

JohnathanKatz said:
I'm as new as they come when rooting devices, although I was able to successfully root my previous tablet, a Galaxy Tab 2 without issue but that's besides the point.
Point is I'm looking to finally root my Nexus 7, I've had it since last December and never really saw a need to do it, but the appeal of being able to customize it in any way I want to proved too much to resist and I'm ready to take that step.
However I've come across with two different methods to root my device, one that requires unlocking the bootloader and one without, the Nexus Tool Kit and djrbliss motochopper's tool kit that doesn't require unlocking the bootloader.
I myself am worried about losing my data and depending on the method suggested will back up my data using the adb backup, but what do the kind people here recommend for a first timer?
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Might as well unlock your bootloader now, that way when you need to flash something through fastboot someday, you won't need to worry about wiping everything.

korockinout13 said:
Might as well unlock your bootloader now, that way when you need to flash something through fastboot someday, you won't need to worry about wiping everything.
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Thanks for your help, I was able to use the Nexus Tool Kit and rooted my tablet with no issues at all.

[Q] A couple of Qs

Hi all!!!
I'm considering to buy the Moto X, I have a couple if questions though:
If I unlock the bootloader through Motorola, does root become easier (I realize that it isn't simple otherwise)
Is the bootloader relockable?
If I unlock a brand new phone, I won't lose anything, correct? You only lose what you install other than stock, is that correct?
Thanx all in advance...

shaya4207 said:
Hi all!!!
I'm considering to buy the Moto X, I have a couple if questions though:
If I unlock the bootloader through Motorola, does root become easier (I realize that it isn't simple otherwise)
Is the bootloader relockable?
If I unlock a brand new phone, I won't lose anything, correct? You only lose what you install other than stock, is that correct?
Thanx all in advance...
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1. Yes if you unlock all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and supersu. Pwnmymoto is pretty easy too, though.
2. Yes but I don't think that will give you back your warranty
3. Unlocking will basically do a factory reset in the device. So if it's brand new and you haven't used it yet you won't lose anything. But if it's already set up and being used be sure to save anything important before you unlock.
Sent from my HTC One mini

Thanx!!! Isn't there an issue with PwnMyMoto with the camera update? Also it's safe to assume that once rooted WiFi tethering (like with FoxFi) will work, correct?

shaya4207 said:
Thanx!!! Isn't there an issue with PwnMyMoto with the camera update? Also it's safe to assume that once rooted WiFi tethering (like with FoxFi) will work, correct?
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i would suggest replying to someone if you want them to respond to you otherwise it won't show up in their notifications if they aren't subscribed to the thread.
PwnMyMoto didn't screw up the camera update. It was built for the android OS that came stock on the phone. Maintaining root through the OTA/ camera update is difficult currently. But that is partly because all of the info on the updates haven't been released yet. As time goes on and things develop and those smarter than me decide to get things done we should be able to maintain root through the update and future updates with no problems. Also, safestrap was recently released and is working through bugs but it will be fully functional soon and we will be able to use roms through them and not take the updates.
wifi tethering only matters on vza at least if you have unlimited data. Otherwise, they don't charge to wifi tether anymore. you just can't go above your data limit. But yes, rooting allow those 3rd party tethering apps to work. They may even work without root actually. But with root you can change the stock tethering app and keep your carrier from knowing you are tethering.

@jayboyyyy Thanx!!!

Nonroot vs Root

Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!

Belongs in the Q&A section

bipoler said:
Belongs in the Q&A section
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You're right im sorry guys
Any possbility of a mod moving it?

marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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Root if something you want needs it, otherwise there's not any need. Do you need tomatoes? I dunno.

marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!

I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.

mgbotoe said:
As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!
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Thank you for your input, yes I do have things such as you listed for rooting! Merry Christmas!
chong67 said:
I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.
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Thanks for the response! I think I know what I'm doing now [emoji14]
Merry Christmas!

Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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donnyp1 said:
Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away

chenxiaolong said:
Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away
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Thanks dude, im on tmobile. Root then backup!
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Its done. I voided it!
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Rooted is the way to go! Only reason I haven't rooted yet is because I'm waiting for Android 5.0 to drop next month hopefully ! Then I will gladly root. Phone is much better when it is under your control.
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT

Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix (old fix)
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.

Updated previous post with some links to possible fixes.

virtualdj said:
Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix?
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.
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I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health. I guess the issue is when you're only rooted on stock ROM. But apparently there's walkarounds for those issues.

shook187 said:
I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health.
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Thanks, but actually I was interested on (possible) issues on stock ROM and, most importantly, if the walkarounds really work.

I just bought the Nexus 6, should I root it immediately?

Hi, long time lurker here. I want to start by saying how great and informative this site is. Anyway, my nexus 6 came in from the mail like 5 hours ago, did all the updates from 5.0 to 6.0 and it's now running Marshmallow mra58n. Question is should I root it immediately and if so, are there any guides I can follow? Much love to you all, I'm not exactly pro at this kind of things but I can follow instructions since I have competently rooted my past phones which were an HTC M7, M8 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.
Thank you.
Edit: Phone is also unlocked, I currently have no SIM card

start here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481

At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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razortaz18 said:
At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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I've been looking at the Nexus Root Toolkit since I am kind of confused on how to proceed with anything at all, is that ill advised since I've read that there are problems with the USB cable disconnecting during reboot?
Also, thank you for the reply.

I used the NRT without issue. Just follow the guide step by step.
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and, dont touch the usb cable while the phone is processing your commands!
j/k, never even heard of the USB cable "problem"

I just used the toolkit today to unlock and root my N6.
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I rooted last night initially using manual method described in the first link provided, however after some driver issues ultimately used the 2.1.0 rootkit to uninstall and reinstall all drivers. That too alone saved me tons of time and either method is simple if you can follow instructions.
Totally recommend rooting and then experimenting with custom roms, its like getting a new phone everyone you install a new rom.
Have fun!

Kristine,
In answer specifically to your question "Should I...?" my answer is "No". It really depends on what you think you'll get from it - why do you want to do it? What specific benefits do you want?
The reason that I say "no" is that I've been rooted on all my several phones for years, and I've decided that for me the annoyance of having to manually flash ROMs outweighs the benefits - particularly now that Google are releasing frequent security updates. The moment you root your device the OTA (over the air) updates no longer work.
For me the major reason for rooting was to have a firewall. The other things (wakelock detection, double tap to wake, auto-hibernation...) were great but not showstoppers. Now that there is a non-root firewall (Netguard) I'm happy to leave my phone unrooted. I haven't had an OTA to apply yet, so if I have any problems then I might change my mind, but my advice would be to think hard about why you want root before you buy yourself into a world of tinkering...

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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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Dammit, are you kidding me? I just downloaded and setup everything, figured I'd do all everything else tomorrow... Oh, well I can do it again I suppose.

Kristine-N said:
Question is should I root it immediately....
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Because I don't want a white interface, rooting is necessary. Google forces to many things, like forced encryption, useless apps and a white interface (battery drain). When rooting was impossible I would not have bought a Nexus.

Short answer: No!
Long answer: Well, it's sill no, but you can or even should do a couple of things.
First if all, allow OEM Unlocking in development settings. There are gazillion how-tos to switch developer mode on, and tick that switch. Google has borked OTAs already, and if your phone doesn't boot, and the switch is off, then you're boned, you can send it for repair. But if you can unlock you bootloader, then you can flash a custom recovery and make your phone working again.
Second, if you do plan to root your phone in the near future, you should unlock the bootloader now, while it's still new, because it will erase everything (IMHO this would be sufficient as a security measure, the Enable OEM Unlocking is overkill).
As for the main question if you don't have any specific ideas what you want the root for, then don't root your phone. It's a clear and present security risk, and you're just one too many "Allow" taps from letting someone acquire your passwords, clone your IMEI, and download your personal stuff. My motto is, if you don't know what exactly root is, what it does, then you don't know how to prevent exploits that need it to run.
Also if you modify your phone in any way, and that includes rooting, you won't receive the monthly OTAs, and will have to flash it manually.
And finally, don't use toolkits on a Nexus. Spend another hour reading about the matter and you will find out typing adb and fastboot commands is a easy as clicking buttons on toolkits. There is nothing extra in them, they just download the images to flash, and "type" these commands for you.

Unlock bootloader and don't root it for now. After some time, if you feel like you're missing some features that you can obtain only with root, then go ahead. But for now I would strongly recommend to stay stock and see how it goes...