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Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
First, get to know your phone. Use it as long as you can before rooting, until you get used to it and EVERYTHING it does. When it starts to get boring, ROOT it! By that time you should know every secret the phone offers!
not a big fan of patience... I would like to learn to root it and play around... but nothing brick like...
2.2 would be nice and anything else people recommend, lol....
thx man, goodnight.
Mr.Kakarot said:
Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688000
Inside there's a link, follow the Pre-requisites on that link first... and setup ADB first.
ok so set up that ab thing first then follow the tutorials... also, should I have mentioned it is a *rogers 3g phone (att&t)
thx again and goodnight 4 real
If you barely know how to use it stock.... you should probably figure that out before you go around rooting it, flashing custom ROMs, and trying the latest BETA OS release. Once you've got the stock OS figured out and are getting bored with it, THEN root and move on.
Learn how the phone works. This is no iPhone and the settings with this phone are plentyfull. Have in mind that after you flash a Cyanogen ROM for instance, you will have 4 times more settings to play with, hence the advice to learn the basic functions on your N1. But anyways, you will come to a certain point where the GEEK in you wakes up and you wanting MORE..
DO also know that when you want to root your phone, you need to unlock you phone. Doing this will VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I will also advise you to use your phone for a period of time to see that there are no issues with hardware and build of the phone (buttons, dust under screen, trackball not working, not chargin, loose connectors etc etc..), just to be safe. Coz once you unlock it, there is NO going back to lock it again (at this point)
Setting up ADB and Recovery can be the most struggling with drivers and interface but once that is passed and you start using recovery on a daily or weekly basis, is all smooth ride from there. I guarantee you many hours customizing and experimenting with this phone than any other non-andoid phones you have had in the past.. is pretty much an addiction. i have rebooted this phone more the last 3 months than any other phones in my whole lifetime .
Rule of thumb is always have a recent Nandroid (backup done in recovery) before flashing. Flashing ROM's are usually safe as safe can be. Kernels are not risky to flash either, but remember that Kernels are the ones that controls voltages and speed of you Processor and other things, and flashing wrong Kernels can result in non functioning behavious in your OS and worst case, the processor overheating, so know what you are doing when flashing Kernels. At one point you will start trying out kernels because if you are on a hunt for more battery life, the ROM + Kernel combination are the main things that makes this happens.
Then , a last note: I addvise you to NOT update radios if you don't have any problems with the one you have. The Radio's are the one that controls your ability to call controls your phone's antenna and Wi-Fi. If you DO flash radios and happen to terminate the process, i guarantee you a bricked phone. So beware. If you upgrade to FROYO, one of the processes is flashing a new radio. So let things runs it course once in process.
Have fun trying to optimize your phone to last as long as it can on one battery charge...
If you like to begin in Android World you can start from the following blog
nextworldmobile.com. It has reviews of Android Applications that you must put on your mobile plus Flashing Tutorials etc.
Theunlockr.com is a great website for rooting and anything on the nexus. They also have videos
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pretty valid points from all of you, thanks very much.... I think I will give it a week or atleast the weekend... once I got in on luck.... maybe I will move on
I do buy and sell phones a lot... might be best to wait and see if there is a way to reverse the process and keep warranty intact first?
thx a bunch.
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
jblazea50 said:
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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It should definitely be soon, and will give you a chance to have new software and features without voiding your warranty. Win-win :-D
jblazea50 said:
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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I really recommand to do that exact thing:
learn nandroid (backups )
then play with your 2.1
2.2 will be out before you could have learned everything you wanted from 2.1
thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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You can download Launcher Pro from the Market to replace the current home Launcher. It will allow you to have up to 7 home screens and makes everything a whole lot smoother when you swipe between the screens.
sweeeeet tip bro, thx!
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
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yeah, i updated mine via the non-warranty-voiding method, but since i like some of the apps that require root, i had it rooted
to update to frf50 (Froyo) without voiding warranty, you need to download the OTA file and rename to update.zip and place in the root of the SD card
1. power off phone
2. hold down volume down button and press power
3. scroll to recovery and hit power (should take you to screen with an exclamation mark or something similar
4. while holding down power button, press volume up
5. this should take you to stock recovery and you can now apply update.zip from sd card
those may be the correct steps, i don't think i'm missing anything; there's some guide located in the general forum
thx for the app suggestions, I will try them all
as for the above instructions... each site I try to grab 2.2 from.. says it no longer exists? thx
timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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ps: will pandora work in Canada? thx
I have a dead phone I'm toying with. It's not on with the network. This is my first attempt at rooting etc. I would like to just have it as a sort of game/fun/toy phone. I have a G1 from Tmobile that I use and not going to try and root until I get a new one, then perhaps also have that as a game/fun/toy phone. Anyway, I have a Sprint Hero and how I've been getting apps and such on it is by swapping SD cards and doing a back up or connect via wi fi from one of the sites with a list of freeware to download. I want to get rid of the apps that I don't want/need for this phone. I'm not going to use it to call people so I would like that off too if I could. I would like to keep the wi fi though. I am new to this and trying to figure everything out. I just got busybox and rom manager on the phone. So, now what? How do I get those annoying stock apps I don't want/need? I really don't need to change the whole face of it, just those apps to be removed and I'll be happy with it. Thanks
by the way
I forgot the build.
I'm on 2.31.651.7
rooted from one click that I found from the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hero_CDMA#Miscellaneous_Simple_How-To.27s.
Please search around, most of the common questions, more often than not, have already been answered.
ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
I also want it as some type of "toy" for him to play with instead of taking MY phone! lol. I have toddler lock on it and he seems to like it. But I don't really want him to have it until he stops "chewing" on it. My G1 case cover is ruined from him. lol. oh well. He likes to play with phones because everyone else does. They start early now. I downloaded all sort of kid games so when that day comes, I can say, here you go when he takes mine!
But I'm lost on figuring out if there is a program I need? Or if the superoneclick has it in the app. I have it on our Windows computer and I'm currently on our Mac. And that computer is so slow and now I have to spend the time to try and clean IT out. Its running Vista and I have a copy of 7 but I don't feel like dealing with all of that. sigh.
Does tethering work with phone to phone? Like connect my non network phone to my G1 for internet like when we go on vacation and my nonsmart phone partner wants to use the net and so do I, that we can share. I'm guessing USB cable would do that? I don't know, there is just so much to read up on for a newbe trying to figure it out. Time for sleep now.
mistyshadow said:
ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
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Well, nobody around here sits around on their butts staring at the screen, waiting for people like you to ask questions... so that they can answer. If you think of this as "Customer Service", think again. Everyone here has primary jobs, they do this because they like it and are passionate about it.
Having said that, nobody is saying "No" to answering questions... just try searching and looking up the obvious links, first.
Geeze. sorry. I just thought Maybe someone else maybe already had done it and point me in the right direction. I try searching and can't find anything in what I'm trying to do. So a here, try this and this and such would be nice. Thought I give a bg on what I wanted to do with it. And I'm still new and get lost around here. Tech langauage changes every 6 months along with the phones. I see "flash" and I think of the Adobe program or the flash on a camera. So forgive me. And I guess nevermind.
I agree with the others here. There is a wealth of tutorials available, and when used will achieve your goal of a "toy". However, I will help you out by providing a framework of things you will need to do. Bear in mind you will need to do the searching though. This way you will learn more about the phone, and you will have a better sense of what to do if something doesn't go right, etc.
First, you need to have your phone rooted. Rooting allows you full access over the phone. Most rooting utilities will install "Busybox", a set of binaries that grants you the ability to use special commands. Next, you will want to install a custom Recovery image. There are two mainstream ones available: Amon-RA and ClockworkMod. Either is fine. The recovery image allows you to make backups of your phone, install new ROMs, and reset settings, among other things. After the recovery image is installed, you will want to search for a list of "safe to delete apps".
I hope this helps you somewhat. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me.
Mike
Hello everyone,
I have recently upgraded from Windows mobile (tilt2) to Samsung Captivate (att)
I am pretty upset that they are taking forever to release the update and I would like to install a custom rom with Froyo, and without the bloatware!
So my questions are: (ive tried to do a ton of research so far so but am confused with this cant get definite answers)
I know it comes down to preference, but I would like to know which Rom is the most stable, best battery life, and good performance out of all the roms. I was considering the Firefly or the andromeda, or cognition...but maybe a better option? Which would be best for me, im not big into themes, just want best reliability, battery life is a huge thing for me as well. So which is best for me?
Also, I am confused with all these modem versions, my 3g currently is slow as ish on my 2.1 stock rom download speed is sad in my area and i get atlest 3-4 bars.
I rarely break 200kbps. meanwhile i see ppl getting 1mbps speed with their iphone sitting right next to me!!! So speed is important for me too. (internet and OS)
My last concern is will it be possible to do a complete backup of my current stock rom just incase i need to revert for warranty purposes?
I read the guide to upgrade the roms, watched the videos, nd plan to do it again b4 i attempt then follow directions very very carefully as i do it....
I was ok with flashing WinMo roms...but android is very different and it seems alot more confusing to me (maybe because i am new to it)
Im scared to brick my beautiful new phone...i love it so much.
but i feel i am held back with 2.1...no flash, crappy gps, and the custom roms im seeing are amazing looking!!!
So please help me with answers to my couple questions...
basically best rom for reliablilty, battery life, performance with best modem too.
Least amount of bugs, and theme isnt too big for me. the other things much more important!
And if im able to revert to stock no problem for warranty (if necessary)
so far my phone is AWESOME! but 2.2 is way better with flash and better gps.
Sorry for long post...THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS!!! YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
(u guys have dozens of versions of Froyo for captivate, and ATT cant even put out one! go figure!)
Well stock is in my 4shared...link in my sig. As for ROMs it always varies. Flash any you want. Only thing you need to check is if your 3 button recovery works. If it does your golden and flash away.
Sorry i am on my phone and its after 2am..... so no links
If you have really researched you would know there is no definitive answer to your question. Each rom has the chance to react differently between phones. Asking which rom is the best depends on YOUR phone and the combination of kernel/modem vary as well. Read up on how to properly installation rom. Read how to recover your phone from a bootloop/semi brick state. Readhow to use odin to flash to stock if you get that soft brick. Also learn how to make a jig if all else fails. Once all that is in placestart flashing roms to see which one is best for your phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
i knew i was gonna get that answer lol....
I have read the guide...i plan on reading again and again...
its not easy stuff for a noob...
and i am very computer literate.
But anyway...I have a Captivate, and i was watching rom reviews i remember josh saying that the firefly was good for day to day use.and that is what i would like.
I was just hoping for ur guys opinions. what worked best for u.
I saw alot of ppl were sayin the andromeda was saying it was a favorite among alot of people, great battery life too...
so i hope i can get some good answers from everyone...i would like to flash once with a great rom, and just chill wit it...
I did do research. alot of research. but i guess u must have learned everything over a period of months...but for me im tryin to cram everything i learned so far in 2-3 days.
i wanna flash but i dont want to mess anything up.
seems like it is not likely to hard brick the phone....and usually it can be recovered no problem...
i will continue my research, i was just hoping to get answers from much more experienced people than me...
I have a ATT Samsung Captivate (us version)
Which would the best rom for me to start with. (battery life, performance, and reliability/least bugs) are 3 most important things to me.
Themes are not as important to me.
Im goin to lay down. hopefully get some good answers when i wake up!
Keep in mind guys, IM BRAND NEW HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYONES BRILLIANT MINDS!
and i appreciate ur hospitality in advance!
thanks guys!
It takes more than a couple days of reading to get a understanding on how all of this works on the Captivate.There really isn't any crash course to take to accomplish what you want.Time is your friend..not your enemy on this..The more time you take..the more information you have before you.
Each phone (this includes yours) reacts differently to all the various themes..kernels..modems..and roms. Each person that does this..needs to find the best combination that will give them what they are hoping to achieve...ie: looks..speed..stability..battery life..download speed..gps..ect...
What you have to do..is find a rom you are interested in..read the thread from start to current..and then decide if what is being said about it will match your wants & needs.Then find out what modem works best on your phone ... in your area... to give you the best signal reception.. download speeds..voice clarity..and battery life. Same for the kernels..which one will work properly with the modem..that gives you good stable performance without changing your download speed..Both must work in conjunction with each other.
Everyone has favorites..on each item..and just because a certain combination works superbly for my phone..doesn't mean it will work for you..The beauty of Android..is you have the chance to change each part to make your phone perform as you want it..You have a multitude of choices...so..where to begin...
For a starting point..here is what I would do..Ensure your phone has the 3 button recovery..If it does..download the correct Odin..If it doesn't..download the Odin with the 3 button recovery fix in it..Download and install the correct drivers for your phone..Read the entire Odin threads for each..from start to finish..and memorize the proper sequence of how to properly flash back to stock..Download the update.zip file to your PC..as well as the 1 click root program..this way you have both...the update.zip file gives you root very easily..and having that file will save you a lot of time..and the 1 click root/un-root if you need to return to 100% stock for some reason..It's a real good idea to learn how to do all of this before you flash any custom rom..Then you can start prepairing to change your phone..flying blind on doing this can lead to messing up your phone..so..be prepared to invest a lot of time reading everything you can first..
Make several folders on your pc/mac that will contain different roms...theme...kernels...modems..gps tweaks...wi-fi fixes..then start filling those folders up..
Then you can learn how to flash themes..roms..kernels..and modems..and you do that by reading and studying how to on each of those threads..There is a ton of information to go over...
Now you have a idea of why folks won't just say what you should do...There is so many different combinations to choose from..and for a n00b it is overwhelming..but you have to start by having an idea of what you want..what you want it to look like..and how you want it to perform..and then assemble the various items..and then assemble it yourself..Many of the Custom roms..have attempted to do this for you..and many prefer having someone do it for them..than attempt to learn how to do it for themselves....Some are full featured roms..others are stripped down version..that you have to download what you need for it..In the end..many of us have take a little from each..and mix and match to get our phones where we want them to be..because of what I underlined above..There is a lot more to learn..but..in time..you will..cause we all do learn new stuff about them everyday we work with them..The more you learn..the more you can change..
Hope this helps
Mac
All of the ROMs are different even though they are kinda the same (I don't know if that makes sense), but I would do as smoke said, verify your 3 button recovery works and find one of the many roms out there that sounds like it appeals to you. I started out using Cognition until one Saturday I woke up and looked through the forums and I found another rom that looked good. I didn't know how it ran or anything, I just liked the look of it. That weekend I flashed 4 different ROMs until I found the one that I liked best. Since then I stuck with the same 2-3 devs. It took me a while to get comfortable flashing but after a while you'll find yourself flashing in the middle of afternoon traffic.
Many of the people are helpful here and are more than happy to help. Just keep in mind that what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa. A lot of the threads have 100s if not 1000s of posts and that can be pretty intimidating but honestly I just catch up on the last few pages and I'm kinda tracking. Also many of the devs have IRC rooms to chat for any questions.
Check this thread out here and this one here for some additional help.
Happy Flashing!!
This is a basic tutorial I wrote up a few months ago for the basic flashing back to stock. It has the link for Odin 1 Click, and for Windows drivers, which you'll need:
Flash to Stock JF6:
1. Download Odin One Click from: http://www.mediafire.com/?0w2y31maz8mdom4
2. Download your Windows Drivers from:
Windows 64bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?3dh4d6up72me9re
Windows 32bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?0b45zo7o75rc5d5
3. Make sure your USB cable is connected directly to the back of your computer, not a USB hub or to a front connection and all of your drivers have been properly installed
4. Do not connect your USB cable yet.
5. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
6. Turn your phone off
7. Remove your SIM card and Micro SD if you have one
8. Open Odin One Click
9. On your phone, press and hold the Volume up and the Volume down buttons. Do not touch the power button
10. While holding them, insert your USB cable, wait for a couple of seconds and a yellow triangle with the Android figure will show up
11. You’ll see in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
12. Press “Start”
13. Do Not mess with your phone at all
14. When it is done, your phone will reboot and Odin will display “Removed”
15. Unplug your USB cable from your phone
16. If you are proceeding to Master clear, you must close Odin BEFORE Master Clear
Master Clear:
1. Ensure you have backed up all of your information onto your Micro SD or your desktop BEFORE doing this. IT WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL SD!!
2. Make sure to remove your SIM and Micro SD if you have one
3. With your USB cable disconnected from your phone, open Odin One Click
4. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
5. Connect your USB cable to your phone
6. You’ll in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
7. Click “Master Clear”
8. When the Master Clear has completed, your phone will reboot
9. You’ll need to re-enable USB Debugging again
Remember to take what you read with a grain of salt; like it's been said before, your device can act very differently than someone else's in the thread you are reading. So your milage may vary. Also remember not to be turned off by the negatives you read in a thread, some people just like to nitpick and complain. For ME, I find that if you take the theme, and set it aside, that what you're looking for is a ROM that works for your device. At the core they are pretty much the same, and any thing you don't really like as far as the theming is concerned, can be changed. So what I think you need to find is a ROM/Kernel/Modem combo that gives you good marks on the basics; call quality, WiFi, BT, signal, if the signal/call quality isnt quite right, take a look at a new modem, if there is a little hickup in the functionality, try a different kernel.
My own piece of advise, stay away from the kernels that are OC'd until you are well versed in the flashing and so on. They can cause some problems, and I personally find aren't needed.
I'm partial(as you can see by my signature) to the Phoenix ROM. It's 2.2.1 i9000 based, where as Adams other ROM Firefly, is Rogers 2.2. Over and above all things, they are great threads, and most everyone is really, really helpful
Good luck and happy flashing
thanks so much for the reply. i def read ur tutorial before!
i actualy was wondering if that would set back to stock rom, woul that be stock so i can send back the phone if i need to for warranty purposes?
thanks for all the replies!!
i did alot of research, i think im going with the cognition rom....
seems to be the best for what i want for...
just straight up reliability, performance an battery life. but reliability above all.
maybe if that isnt good for my phone, then i will try firefly.
i already got all the ddriverrs, software, etc...
im just nervous to go thru with it because im scared of breakin my beautiful phone!! (i was also scared bout doin custom roms to my winmo phones in the past, but once i get past the fear and actually do it, i usually find it to be a simple process...)
please excuse my errors, my keyboard on my laptop is retarded...
Thanks again guys!
If anyone has any tips for a first timer, please feel free to let me know!!
Thanks!
Ok, I have been a little confused with this, and pretty much this is my major concern before i go ahead and flash...
Pretty much my worry is backing up the nvdata information...
I feel this is by far the most important step. And if it is at all possible i would like to extract this data somehow and store it on my computer hard drive, on a cd, and thumb drive (to be redundant- just incase i ever need it again).
once i figure out how to be safe with that vital data, i plan on goin ahead and flashin!
I was readin up on the phoenix rom too...
looking at all these roms makes me feel like im at a restaurant and i cant choose!
nv data is only important if you use kies.
Dl either
Root explorer
Super manager
Android mate
Find efs folder on your phone, copy and paste on your sd
Mount phone move to pc
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the popular custom roms. Virtually all of them are better choices than stock. Your choice for Cognition is a good one. I have enjoyed it in the past. I'm currently running Perception 10.3 from the same developer (DesignGears). His work seems consistently high...but many others do great work, too.
Titanium Backup (market) is a good application for backing up key apps + data. Also, it can sync with a dropbox account if you have one. Once you install your new rom, you can then use Titanium backup to restore missing apps and data. (just don't restore system data to avoid messing up a new rom). It might be a good thing to practice with Titanium prior to flashing a new rom just to make sure you can delete and restore a critical application and its data.
ok so i rooted my phone, i backed up everything with titanium as per the guide.
so if i just use the clockwork recovery to install cognition rom then it will carry over the imei number and EVERYTHING else?
I ccant figure out how to save this data the efs folder or w/e...its really too complicated.
it seems like im just about half way done. since i have stock rom already, i dont need to use the odin to restore.
So clock work to install and restore with titantium.
So if i just install cognition as per instructions on the sticky thread, then i wont have ANY problems as far as my phones 'identity' (droid id, imei, etc..)?
Im guessin cwm will restore this autommatically, or it will just carry over?
i have a feeling that today i will finally have 2.2!
i just need to clear this one last concern up!
THANKS EVERYONE!
I am lazy so I did not read all the post.
Did you use android id changer to save your current id?
I have never backed up my efs file.
Only restore user apps with titanium
no i didnt do that. lol
this is why im sooo nervous about flashing this rom...
cuz i read the instructions on the sticky forum and it seems straight forward...
then i start reading posts about how u need to back up nvdata, efs folders, now im hearing about android id changer....
im glad i didnt flash it yet, cuz i might have avoided a mistake!
Pretty much i just rooted my phone, backed up apps and data like said in the instructions on the sticky topic. I downloaded cognition rom...
and i am hesitant to proceed...
i dont want to make a serious mistake!!!
is this android id changer a nessisity?
i been reading all over the boards and it is confusing the hell out of me!!!
Deep breath
You are flashing a rom not recreating the wheel.
Android id changer is soo easy to use that it makes no sense not to back up your id. App is free, open it, save id, done.
How about you're contacts, have you backed them up? If you have an external sd, go to contacts, menu, export/import, save to sd
it is not hard, it just takes some reading and getting used to. In a month you will be flashing with your eyes closed.
If you want help along the way drop me a pm
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
xdahgary said:
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
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Android id is a unique identifier for your phone. When you flash a custom rom it gets changed. It can cause some issues with downloading from the market, and some games identify your device using that id.
I have flashed and not restored my id without issues before, but it is real easy and is a way of troubleshooting before a problem happens
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
xdahgary said:
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
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You can grab it if you go back to stock or if you have a nandroid of stock there is a way to get it
thanks mcord....so i dont need to worry about anything else then?
i backed up wit titaanium...all contacts are saved on my gmail...
i am goin to back up the id then ill proceeed with the flashing..
my main concern was the imei and stuff like that...but it doesnt seem like it will b an issue...
thanks buddy!
Hi so I just heard that the D3 was rooted two days ago (been keeping up until a week ago). I'm not exactly a pro in this area or have ever rooted a device before but I have spent quite a few hours today reading up on the process and any info I could find.
Basically I just want to know if I should root my D3 or wait out another week or so? I heard that a SBF (?) hasn't been found yet so the stock rom can't be recovered and there is really no recovery net yet so should anything go wrong, there aren't a lot of options.
There is a one-click method to root but I'm going to try the original method using the adb shell (lol still researching what on earth to do with that still, just installed the android sdk :x). I'm not concerned about the process of rooting my droid, it's what comes after that makes me hesitant in doing so.
I read that there is a (seemingly simple) method to unroot the D3 by deleting the su file in some directory and rebooting (can't remember, it seemed legit however). Would "unrooting" have any consequences or would your device be back to the exact same state it was in right before you rooted? I'm not planning to drastically mess around with my D3 should I root it. Just want to take a few screenshots in an app to help out a dev, freeze any bloatware that won't cause problems, do a complete nand backup, and... thats about all that comes to mind right now.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is if rooting my D3 tonight would have any irreversible consequences and if there is any benefit in holding off the root?
Oh! Btw the OTA, I know that rooting won't affect ones ability to receive the update but that it will unroot your device and keep it that way. Would the rooting-discovery process have to start anew for people who update using the OTA (Thinking Verizon might patch the root-exploit) ? I know that updating via OTA isn't too bright anyway because devs just take the update and build on it before releasing it on their own custom ROMs and whatnot, but I feel official updates are somehow more stable (most likely flawed thinking, feel free to correct me on that lol).
Yes - SBF is an important component which would guarantee 100% pre-root configuration.
Removing the su binary and the superuser app would however put the phone back in factory state for this exploit. But anything you do while rooted inside /system is your responsibility to correct. Motorola patches usually verify only file existence/checksums and not creation/modification dates, so you should be fine with simple push of the removed (or renamed) stuff back. I remember I was able to update my D2G without unrooting in the past, but that's not necessarily granted for any other updates of that or any other Motorola phone. Ideally, you want phone in factory state to guarantee update will pass.
Another issue is nand backup you mentioned. Custom recovery isn't yet available for this phone. You can't do nand backups. So even this "safety net" isn't here. Installing custom recovery is a "100% secure way" to have OTA updates fail to apply since it messes up with phone's /system files. Un-doing CWM is a bit more complex than unrooting only and if not done carefully - a sure way for a soft brick. SBF is what we all want before start messing with anything, IMO.
So if an OTA updates fails for whatever reason, your phone will get soft bricked or?
I don't think ill be updating anway, but its good info to know for the future.
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I would say root the device and don't worry about unrooting. If you have to return it to the store or something, unfreeze the apps and delete su. Once you mess with it though, it will be very difficult (impossible?) to ever make /system binary identical to the factory image without an sbf. That said, I doubt VZW takes the time to investigate this very closely.
But I don't see any other reason to ever unroot. When the OTA update comes down, just don't install it. In a few days after its first released, the community developers will tell you how to install it with root and not botch anything up.
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So if an OTA updates fails for whatever reason, your phone will get soft bricked or?
I don't think ill be updating anway, but its good info to know for the future.
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No - fortunately not. It will just say "Update failed" and phone will reboot back to normal.
Regarding updates - you may want to reconsider - updates usually fix bugs, bugs like the bluish camera or the wrong geotagging. Or stuff like phone shooting at max brightness after removal from HD dock.
But as the other poster mentioned - the community would do the hard work for you 'back-porting' the update to a rooted phone. Sure enough - we need custom recovery to be made before we can install any 'backported' updates or other customizations.
But all will come with time.
If you need to use an app that requires root (like openvpn or VPNC), or if you want to remove some of the unwanted apps Verizon stuck on the phone, you should root of course, but if you don't care about such stuff and want to be 'compliant' with stock software - stay as is, until at least SBF comes.
Yeah I rooted already but should an update come, I could always unroot my device. An update would be really welcome too. Yeah the bluish tint on the cam is bad but there are soft fixes for that. What I really really want out of the update is the huge improvement in battery life I've heard about. Im using the extended battery right now and straight up, it sucks. I've heard good things about the extended battery but mine lasts ... maybe 10 hours under light - medium usage, playing music for several hours and having the display on for about an hour. I expected a lot more. Numerous people have reported getting 24-48 hrs of life while others got 15 under normal/heavy use.
There have been a few reports of peope already receiving an OTA update (devs/testers most likely) but have said many pf the d3s current issues were fixed with it, primarily the blue tint on cam and the battery life.
Honestly, with root, I figured my battery would outlast a day like a champ, but there have been no/minimal improvements, even with every piece of bloat frozen. I even froze google Maps because it constantly showed up as using cpu (and therefore battery), have my radio set to cdma, and only have 1 gmail account syncing.
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Guys, just got my phone last week. I read a lot about rooting. Should I root my phone? What are the advantages of it? Havent been able to back my phone yet. When I do root, would it wipe out my phone? Should I wait for the release of the ICS or should I just root now? Also, which link should i follow?
Heres my phones spec:
Model Number: GT-N7000
Android Version: 2.3.6
Baseband Version: N7000DXKL2
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-N7000DXLA1-CL886914
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.DXLA1
Please help. I am new to android. thanks!
Its really up to you. If you already satisfy with stock, then just wait for ics. But if you a type of person who could not wait and could not stand with bug on existing stock rom, then go for custom rom. Which ever suit and good for you..my 2 cent.. B-)
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Hey, I was in the same boat as you. Dabble with Android, some time back, but left the fold as I thought it hadn't matured enough for me back then. Now I a back - couldn't resist the Note and I find that Android has come along leaps and bounds, more functionality than I could of hoped for. I am glad Im back, and I will be staying
To answer some of your questions,
* Yes root the device (at your own risk of course)
*The advantages are numerous, but to name a few: many apps that can take advantage of your root status, eg Titanuim backup. Once rooted, you can explore different roms (firmwares developed/enhanced by others), kernels etc which can increase the speed, functionality etc of your phone. You make full backup of your phone prior to changing or trying different roms, that way if something goes wrong, you can load your last working copy etc. For example, Im just trying a new/different kernel or a ROM developed by a totally different person. Pretty cool really.
At the end of the day it is entirely up to you, but there is a whole different world out there waiting for you if you go the 'root' path.
Good luck and enjoy..
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Hey, I was in the same boat as you. Dabble with Android, some time back, but left the fold as I thought it hadn't matured enough for me back then. Now I a back - couldn't resist the Note and I find that Android has come along leaps and bounds, more functionality than I could of hoped for. I am glad Im back, and I will be staying
To answer some of your questions,
* Yes root the device (at your own risk of course)
*The advantages are numerous, but to name a few: many apps that can take advantage of your root status, eg Titanuim backup. Once rooted, you can explore different roms (firmwares developed/enhanced by others), kernels etc which can increase the speed, functionality etc of your phone. You make full backup of your phone prior to changing or trying different roms, that way if something goes wrong, you can load your last working copy etc. For example, Im just trying a new/different kernel or a ROM developed by a totally different person. Pretty cool really.
At the end of the day it is entirely up to you, but there is a whole different world out there waiting for you if you go the 'root' path.
Good luck and enjoy..
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Thanks for the reply. Can you provide me the links that i need to be able to do the rooting?
No problems. Unfortunately you have one of the newer firmwares which are not directly rootable. All is not lost though, you can still root your phone, it just involves al little more effort on your part. Read the linked post very carefully, following the instructions regarding not directly rootable firmwares:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Good luck..
ok, thank you very much!
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ok, thank you very much!
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No problem at all.
Moved to Q&A
All question in the Q&A section please!
Root, root, root!
I must say I tried to avoid it and wait for ICS, but the battery drain was giving me grief. Here's why I rooted, and will root evermore:
There are dozens of 'stock' apps that pop up and start chewing through your battery any time they feel like it. The are all small apps, but there are a lot of them, and it really eats into your battery life and RAM.
Even if you kill them off, either with a task killer or manually, they pop right back up again, sometimes within seconds. This is because they have 'listeners' registered with the OS, and they respond to any of these events they have registered to listen for.
I use Autorun Manager to both stop them starting at boot, and to turn off all 'listeners' these apps have in place. My device then only runs what I want it to run!
The other extremely nice thing to have, and one that I find I just cannot do without, is a firewall. I use DroidWall, and it allows me to specify exactly which apps can get access to the internet, and how (by WiFi, Mobile, or both). This gives you battery savings and mobile data savings, and it also provides a certain level of security because malicious apps just cannot send personal information back to base (like they certainly can without a firewall).
I immediately increased battery life by 50%. I have added another 50% by sleeping the WiFi, because I can now specify only WiFi for apps (so they don't jump on mobile data when WiFi is asleep, like they used to, I think).
One happy Rooter!
Hello to OP and the above warm-hearted members
I had similar question and a bit over it. I thought I could add it to this thread instead of making a whole new thread.
During my short days with GNexus, I learned quite a lot of things (my 1st Android Device), for example, the elementary intro to fastboot and adb.
However, after switching to Note, I found there is no fastboot mode? Or at least, pressing volume rockers+power button didn't do the trick. Am I missing something here? Because everytime I search "fastboot mode (or bootloader) and Galaxy Note", all the results turn out to be about Galaxy Nexus...
Really confused..
I don't know if this helps you but since noone has responded I can tell you this.
Holding Volume Up + Home Button + Power Button boots you in Recovery mode where you can install ROMs, kernels and updates, wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, battery stats do factory reset, make nandroid backup and restore and some other stuff.
Holding Volume Down + Home Button + Power Button boots you in download mode where you can connect to Odin and do stuff.
Thanks! So it's quite different when there's an extra physical button
I just tried and it works.
Is the recovery mode the equivalent to fastboot mode?