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Updates are designed to fix past issues, at least in theory. Sometimes however, things do go wrong. Such was the case with the Android KitKat 4.4.3 update on the Nexus line, and history seems to be repeating itself now with the Android KitKat 4.4.4 update too. This time however, the affected phone seems to be the Motorola Moto X. Apparently, multiple Moto X users have posted complains on the Moto X boards about poor battery life following the KitKat 4.4.4 update. The firmware seems to have done more wrong than right this time around, seriously affecting the phone’s battery life.
The problems come from various sources, such as data cache problems with applications that cause additional drain, poor network signal which also affects battery life due to constant signal searching and even problems with overheating. In addition, the WiFi signal receiving seems to be affected, as well as the carrier frequencies, which all add up to considerably hit the phone’s power reserves. There are of course temporary workarounds to keep a lid on things for now, but if you’ve already upgraded to KitKat 4.4.4, you’ll likely be facing some issues that can’t really be solved until Motorola launches a new firmware version. Using Airplane Mode can help with network signal search drains, while setting your WiFi to stop connecting to weak signal networks may also be of some use.
If you haven’t updated your Moto X to the latest version of Android KitKat 4.4.4, we recommend you hold off for now. Android L is just around the corner, and it should bring some great battery management features to the Moto X, as it has a built-in battery management tool, as well as Project Volta. So far, problems have yet to appear with the Motorola Droid Maxx and Droid Ultra, which have received the same update. The Motorola Moto G and Moto E have also received Android KitKat 4.4.4, but it’s unclear if battery issues affect those models too at this time.
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hmmmm.....
I don't have problems since the update. The battery seems better than 4.4.2.
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IMO, battery life has never been as good on the Moto X as it was in 4.4
more of a baseband problem rather than the firmware problem?
Can you post the screen shots of the android 4.4.4 update.Also please upload the ota update zip file.Thanks in advance
Already in another thread.
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No trouble for me too.
I'm using the update 4.4.4 for a week (I receive it before everyone, don't know why - my OTA file has been shared), and my battery life is BETTER than before !
Everything works fine. As every other french people reveived the update
With any new update comes growing pains. It takes a day or two and sometimes even a week before an OTA settles fully. Don't jump the gun just because your experience is bad and it's only been a few hours.
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has any verizon people received the update?
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has any verizon people received the update?
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I haven't received it yet. I'm also wondering what the percentage of people complaining about the update are rooted vs stock...
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has any verizon people received the update?
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nope
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has any verizon people received the update?
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Nope! I don't remember it taking this long for the soak last time.
Last time the invites went out 1-2 days before the rollout.
I have had 3 random reboots on 4.4.4 since yesterday.
My X reboot just in the first hour after the 4.4.4 update
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I have had 3 random reboots on 4.4.4 since yesterday.
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Are you using ART? I've been good on dalvik. But had minor issues on ART.
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My X reboot just in the first hour after the 4.4.4 update
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I had no issues on Dalvik or ART.
Sensationalism. Android L isn't right around the corner. It's months away, and it's such a large update that Motorola needs to do extensive testing with their apps and integrated system functions to maintain proper functionality.
No issues with battery life for me either. Remove apps from your phone if you start having idle drain issues, especially those with push notifications, as those are handled by Android OS.
i've had zero reboots but i have had worse battery wife while the device is in use, but much improved battery life while the device is "sleeping". however i have had consistent wifi issues. not sure if its my router or the device specifically, but if i turn off/on wifi, it seems to resolve itself.
I'm having them
I'm having the battery life issue, and its annoying :crying:
before, it used to stay literally a full day, and now it will start beeping by sunset.
I'm seriously thinking about downgrading it back to 4.4.2.
what do you think guys?!! should I?!!!!
Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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I can't say about the new one yet. But I know by the old one. I left my nexus 5 for dead once I started using this phone made me go from a nexus 5 32gb to a 16gb motox I still won't switch back and I have one gig of storage left.
I haven't felt the new one yet. But this phone just feels right in your hand. But I've heard the m8 is sort of like that too.
Might sound stupid but the touch less control is something that becomes the way it should be. Would be weird to not have it but I see Google doing this eventually in all phones.
The one thing that I would really go crazy with is ..this phone wakes up when you pull it out a your pocket. I haven't touched the power button to wake in 8 months. I grab my wife's Iphone expecting to wake.
Really I think how apple amazes millions with some great features, design with low specs and great feel and usability of hardware and software is what the moto x has that maybe other androids do not. You just have to use it for a while and you will see. I hope th new one isn't to large for the feel factor or that will be negated and the software will not be worth it. It is the whole package combined that makes this phone great. Only the voice recognition is the best of any phone otherwise it does nothing the best but everything combined it is the best overall.....oh yeah in my op lol
the X is about just "refining" Android.
I also had a Nexus 5 and once I played with an X I bought one and put my Nexus 5 up for sale. I just got a new 2014 and software wise find it more refined. The only issue I have is that the 2013 was already so good and smooth the 2014 does not really add much, if anything, to it.
The X is for those that want Nexus experience, flagship specs, and great hands free controls. I get by with an 8GB device, if i could but 16 is as small as you can get. I feel that ANYONE that uses an SD card is just poor with data management. Odds are most of your music you load up you don't actually listen to regularly. if you are keeping FULL TV seasons on your phone to watch unless you are traveling thats pointless, you can just load a few eps to get through that day. Same with multiple movies with high bitrates.
I have all the apps I need, and I still have 10GB left. I have 3GB Data, that I pay $64/mo for and I NEVER go over it and I stream Google Music and Pandora in my car when driving to clients all the time. I also get company email and Gmail. I update apps over Mobile Data, and download Podcasts. My photos auto upload to g+. I tether my laptop on occasion. I can not see how anyone can go over 3GB unless you are also torrenting or doing a LOT of social media videos and photos. The closest I have come is 2.7GB in the last 18 months.
People say they need storage because they don't have Unlimited Data. You don't need unlimited data. You just need to not be stupid with your data. I know people that pay more than I do (by like $25-30) and don't get the same amount of data I do just because they refuse to show around carriers.
/rant
I agree with that too about storage. I've felt the M8 and it does feel very nice in my hands but I hate HTC Sense. It ruins the Android experience for me.
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Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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I do like Sense- it has gotten so much better. I also love Nexus because of the all the development, so maybe I will give it a few more days to make a decision. I have the bootloader unlocked and root, so I know some good thing will be coming from the talented devs.
As someone who has owned both my opinions differ.
I find the Moto X 2014 much much faster and smoother than the M8. Even with the M8 running AOSP. ActiveDisplay is just awesome, its a little thing but it really is useful. The Moto X 2014 is easier to hold/use, and doesn't have a ridiculous power button located in a ridiculous spot. (My biggest dislike of the M8). While the M8 structure is beautiful and feels great, I didn't find it comfortable to hold/use. Sense 6 is beautiful but I didn't find it offered any actual value or features that I cared about or ever actually used.
Not that it takes much but the Moto X camera, while still lagging behind, is still far better than that crap 4up camera that HTC loves so much.
The Moto X does not really shine in any one way, it doesn't leap out in the crowd, its just a great phone to use.
Motorola seems to be the only Android manufacturer who actually cares about user experience. I downgraded from a Nexus 5 to the 2013 Moto X last year because it offered a much better experience. I upgraded to the 2014 Moto X this year and am not waiting for the Nexus. If you've never owned a Moto before you won't realize everything you are missing.
Moto X offers the following improvements for me:
-Active Display - HUGE plus if you've never used it
-Touchless Controls - I use this constantly in the car and at home when I'm working
-Moto Assist - great for when I am in meetings all day to silence my phone and auto reply
-Shake to activate camera - very underrated feature but if you're trying to take photos in a snap it's extremely handy
-Wave to wake phone to check notifications and silence calls - again underrated but works beautifully
-Bluetooth unlock when my 360 is connected so I don't have to type in my PIN
-Moto Migrate to keep all of my existing data seamlessly
-As close to stock as possible with these helpful additions
Also other considerations:
-Exceptional build quality - although M8 also has extremely good build quality
-Motorola is one of the only companies that actually pays attention to cell signal and reception and is superior, my Moto X 2013 hands down had better signal than my N5, 2014 is great for signal too, HTC Notoriously bad for signal
-Audio noise cancellation - the sound quality when recording and on a call is much better than other phones I have used. Moto X 2013 was FAR superior to N5 in this regard, I don't have a M8 to compare but consider it
-FAST upgrade time, we will be one of the first to get Android L - This is huge for me
I suppose a good answer will be when android L comes out, X should have it quick (of course lenovo taking over and Soni gone could change that) whereas HTC will probably be 6+ months behind because they have to retro fit the junkwear onto the new OS.
Who the hell wants skinned android L????! Not me!
Previous phone: Nexus 5
Current phone: Pure version Moto X on T-Mobile network
Comparison:
Con: touch sensitivity does not seem as good. Using swipe gestures in Nova Launcher I never had to repeat a swipe on the Nexus 5, but I occasionally do on the Moto X. I noticed there seems to be more of a lag when scrolling the screen on the Moto X. I set the phone to use ART instead of Dalvic and it seemed to help some, but the touch response still has a perceptible delay.
Pro: Voice command works well, even in noisy environments
Reception is improved
Speaker phone loudness and clarity is multiple times better. It is good and plenty loud.
IR sensors and software work great.
Screen is a little bigger, which I like.
Voice command to toggle silent mode is handy.
Battery life seems the same, or maybe slightly better.
UPDATE: I switched from Nova launcher to the Google Now Launcher, and the touch lag I mentioned in the Cons section above is no longer noticeable.
Con: I think the handoff from WiFi to cellular is not a smooth transition. The phone tries to hang on a weak WiFi signal to long before it switches to cellular, and I do have 'avoid poor connections' selected in the WiFi advanced options.
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Thanks for all the comments. I had not given the X a real chance so I did, and I do love the active display and voice commands- very unique, good expereince, but HOW could Moto put a 2,300mah battery in this? The battery was flat by 2:30 under moderate use. I guess we need a UV kernel and some good battery tweaks ASAP.
I do really like the screen too, the blacks are so black, and the colors pop, almost too much... And it does just feel good in your hand.
I will give it a few more days to see how battery life occurs...
thanks,
I just picked up the new x an I also have the m8. I'm really liking the x so far never had anything besides HTC I still have my m8 tho.
Edit I been on mine all day now it has not got hot at all. Running real smooth
To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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This is promising to me. I have been only htc flagship phones since day 1. On my m8 I can got 26 hours heavy use from full to dead. An I was worried bout battery on this phone but everything else I read made me jump ship an try the new moto. I'm really liking the phone since I picked one up yesterday...
I'm currently looking into the Droid Turbo as I need options on a new phone. My Note 4 has been replaced twice, on my third phone with horrible screen issues. Had the iP6+, really bad screens and iOS sucks. Came from a year with the Moto X and it served me well, but bad battery life and bad burn-in forced me to get a new phone.
Needless to say, I'm limited on phone choices currently. I originally looked at the Turbo when it came out but the lack of brightness and no voice/data turned me off. But since it got the AC 1.0 update, that's a step in the right direction. I've also been told that the brightness issue has been resolved as well, but no one can seem to confirm it.
So, those of you that have had the Turbo, would you buy it again? How's the real battery life? Voice/data working great? How about screen issues, as far as discoloration or uniformity?
Thanks!
32 hours on, 4 hours of screen on time.. Still have 26% remaining. No regrets.
Anyone else?
I am really loving this phone. I had a couple small complaints, but they were patched with the last update. Battery life is awesome. Simultaneous voice and data working now. The screen is gorgeous. I would definitely buy again .If you need any more convincing watch this. His reviews are always spot on.
Battery life is phenomonal
I can't use voice and data and I took the update, tried it just last night.
Coming from a Galaxy S3... both me and my wife. Both of us are very happy. Screen is plenty bright. Not seeing any obvious screen uniformity issues... I haven't been "looking" for them, but I tend to notice things like that quickly, so it's good enough, at least. Battery life is far better than the S3, as expected... I guess I'm not a heavy user in that sense. Certainly would recommend this device (or the MotoX).
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I can't use voice and data and I took the update, tried it just last night.
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Have you enabled HD Calling? It won't work until you have done that.
Non HD call quality with Advanced Calling enabled is a little quirky. The last update addressed all the issues mentioned in early reviews AFAICT. I get 33 hours battery life on average and 4 1/2 hours screen on.
Definitely would buy again.
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My wife and I also came from the S3 and we love this phone, no regrets at all.
I am very happy with mine. I see no issues related to screen brightness. VOLTE and data work just fine. I did have a speaker issue with my first device, which was among the first batch produced. I had it replaced with one from a newer batch and have had no issues thus far. If you are particular about your devices, I think there are few options that are "perfect" in their quality control. The devices are too complicated, with too may features, to expect that they will all leave the factory perfect.
Hello!
Go to red arrow in case you don't want to read my story
My phone broke a week ago(Xperia Z1) and Sony's customer service won't repair it because it was rooted and they will destroy it so I'm through with their bs lol
I looked up what phones I could get that had specs but there weren't many phones available, they seem to be able to sell anything with sh*tty specs here in Belgium xD
The moto X was one of the phones, the other phone was the oneplus one but even though it's a great device, my devices usually have hardware defects and need to be sent back and I've heard about the terrible customer service and I am not in the mood for bad customer service(Looking at you Sony!)
----> Now here is my question:
Love the specs, love how the device looks, storage is only 16gb but that shouldn't be an issue (XZ1 is also 16gb) but the ONLY thing steering me away from buying it is it's battery... because it is only 2300mAh I am really worried if it will last me a day! The AMOLED display should certainly help if you check the time often but I'm not sure about it!
How is the battery life guys, is it good on lollipop and to Custom ROM users: How is the battery life compared to stock, better, worse or about the same
My usage:
Basic apps like facebook, instagram, ...
Basic games like flappy bird, (I do not play games as GTA on my phone, I have a nexus 7 for that)
Lots and lots of music!
barely any calling
EDIT: If I buy a 4g device in Europe, what model will I get? (XT10..)
Thank you in advance for replying to my question!
Greetings,
noahvt
This is the wrong device for you, don't buy it. The battery life of this one isn't bad, but its only 2300mah, which is only enough to get from morning till evening on medium use. Expect about 3 to 3.5hrs screen on time.
People do not purchase Motorola devices for custom roms, because its already stock Android with some light, but useful customization. Most people who use Moto X do not install custom roms because it would lose those Motorola features. There are not many custom roms for it. Also there is more chance of permanently brick a Motorola if you don't know what you're doing. If you want custom roms, I suggest you get the upcoming Nexus phone this year.
I suggest looking at the two latest Moto X which will have better battery life. The flagship Moto X Style (3000mah), and the midrange Moto X Play (3630mah). They both have microSD card so you can store lots of media. This Moto X 2014 do not have microSD card.
You might be interested in the Moto G 3rd gen as well if you are not playing any heavy games. It's a budget phone, but with decent specs if you get the version with 2GB ram, have microSD and the battery life is supposed to last very long.
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How is the battery life guys, is it good on lollipop and to Custom ROM users: How is the battery life compared to stock, better, worse or about the same
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I normally go on the engadget battery tests to give a ball-park idea. The Moto X 2014 did about 10.5 hours of video usage, the Z1 gave "over 12" though they don't say how much over 12 it was.
Looking at that, it seems to depend how you rate the Z1 battery. If it's only just adequate then perhaps it might be best to look elsewhere. I find the battery OK to go from morning to bed time but I generally have quite low screen on time.
My normal usage is Spotify over bluetooth (perhaps 1.5 hours a day), text messages, web browsing, Viber messaging and a little Words with Friends. It generally results in 2 hours on screen time, and I'll make it to 11pm with 30% left. Also of note, that would be 80% on WiFi (I have good WiFi at home and work) and 20% 4G. Performance would vary a fair bit if it was the other way around.
Edit: this is stock lollipop.
Hello everyone!
Background (less important): So, I've been looking at getting a Oneplus phone for a while but when my last 2 phones died back to back, I got an S6 from insurance. Problem with the S6 being just about everything (no SD card expansion, no removable battery, no rooting abilities, etc). I've been keeping an eye out for the right time to get a new device and, now that my device memory is full, I'm looking at a new phone.
I was looking at picking up either the S7 or the Oneplus 3T. The S7 is under $500 on amazon, which is pretty surprising (thought it would be much more expensive), has expandable SD card support, pretty good battery, good camera, lots of RAM, etc and they just got the ability to root. It also has some cool options like medical sensor stuff, etc (not all that important, just extra bells and whistles).
However, the 3T appears to have a very active rooting/mods community, and overall, many people have said this is the best phone they've ever had so I'm leaning towards picking that up. The only downsides I've seen/heard are the camera on the 3T isn't as good (definitely not the end of the world, it's still an upgrade from my S6) and I've seen a number of battery drain threads and that genuinely concerns me. I understand that those with the issue are likely going to be a lot more vocal than those that have everything working but I was hoping to gauge how much of a concern this really is and if anyone has determined the cause of the battery drain and if there's a solution. What I don't want to do is get a developer friendly phone that dies super quick (I understand it charges fast too but I don;t want to rely on that).
Anyway, this is kind of an important decision for me as my goal is to keep a phone for 3 years so I'm looking for a phone that is pretty well future proof (for a while, I know 3 years is a long time in the technology field) and I don't want to "settle" for a phone that's going to give me nothing but headaches.
If you guys could help me understand how big of a deal the battery drain is, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
jbrookley said:
So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
jbrookley said:
Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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They did have USB-C on the Note 7. At the point of S7 launch it wasn't that widespread.
Alek123 said:
Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
jbrookley said:
I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I am certain you won't regret getting this device. Let me know if you need any help or have any more questions via PM.
6-7 hour of sot per charge every 22-28 hours.
technology is weird. people can get battery drains for all kinds of reasons. google services may be a reason. or some wakelock by some random app that never was a problem, but after installing it on a certain rom on a certain phone it suddenly is a problem. and weirdly enough you are the only one experiencing it. it might be something with the rom where a factory reset may help. some people go ahead and flash another rom and then it is gone. sometimes they make the wrong conclusion that it is the roms fault. or the kernels or whatever. it happens on every phone. just go to a random phones forum and you will find threads with people complaining about battery drain. and they will be the only ones with this particular issue. the vast majority of users does not have such issues. if they do you will find out about it soon enough and after some time there will be an update that fixes it.
my sot is around 5 hours depending on what i do. using media like movies gives you more screen time, heavy gaming gives you less screen time.