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Nexus 6 advantages and disadvantages over other devices

I'd like to ask those who own the new Nexus 6 device:
1. Which features does the Nexus 6 have that other devices don't have?
For example, on the hardware part, I've noticed that it has front speakers and also double tapping to wake the device (while its screen is turned off), but are there any other goodies that I've probably missed from articles?
2. Which features do you miss from other devices?
I find it a bit disappointing that for a large screen, Google didn't add features that can take advantage of it (like the Note series) .
I'm just curious about your opinions, and also about what special features it got (other than long support, like other Nexus devices) .

Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.

Have no idea until we get the Nexus6 in our hands...

Donjuanal said:
Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?

AndroidDeveloperLB said:
Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?
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Its available for the Nexus 9 because its made by HTC. It was confirmed via google by the original review that Double Tap to Wake is not an implemented feature for this device. It was ambient display kicking in when it sensed the phone moving.
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for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.

Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.

con_ritmo said:
for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.
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for #2... with the Nexus 4 and 5 supporting SlimPort HDMI output.... i'd find it very odd if the Nexus 6 didn't. GSMArena also shows it supporting it.
As for #1.... not everyone finds that to be a disadvantage. The only people i can see using 128GB of storage, be it built-in or expanded, are those who either love to have a library of music on their phone at all times, or those who horde EVERYTHING (Apps, pictures, etc...) on their phone. For me, i would have liked to have been able to order the 64GB model... but seeing as i've been getting along just fine with my 16GB Nexus 5 for the past year.... 32GB isn't a bad idea either, and wasn't going to pass up on the opportunity of ordering one simply because of storage space. And if i NEED storage.... well.... that's what a 64GB USB-OTG flash drive is for.

MattMJB0188 said:
Advantages:
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*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
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I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?

Way too many advantages so I won't list any, lol.
As for disadvantages:
No SD slot (but that was expected...),
No Super AMOLED (also expected as Samsung wouldn't hurt their own sales-Note4),
No IR (I have smart TVs, my Note 3 is able to control them over both IR and WiFi since they are Samsung TV also)
No cool accessories at all! All those (SLIM) wallet cases and digital ink cases for Samsung and HTC devices, plus things like Gear VR
No physical camera button... I mean... with a phone that size... I'm pretty sure they had enough space for a camera shutter button...
Not completely waterproof certified, it annoys me because it seems like all they had to do was block the open ports (Charger and headphone)!!
I know that seems like a lot of disadvantages but I was just thinking of The Perfect Phone...which will never exist, lol. All in all, I am very excited to get my hands on the Nexus 6

Joshnor713 said:
IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.
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Yup what he said^ That is my biggest want in the N6 that it does not have.

Unconn said:
I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?
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I hope they are. I was also referring to sim locked, which we know AT&T will do.

I have a harmony hub setup. No need for IR

MattMJB0188 said:
Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.
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Afaik super amoled is just a marketing term from samsung and it does not make a difference...

Summarising my thoughts on the device in comparison to other flagships:
Pros
- Android 5.0 & guaranteed timely future updates
- Large 6" screen in a decent slim bezel form factor
- Always on voice commands
- Dual front facing stereo speakers
- Build quality
- Great developer support
Cons/could have done better
- Mediocre-average battery life (especially for a phablet)
- High res screen comes at the cost of battery life, brightness and colour accuracy without tangible benefits over 1080P for most people
- Average middling camera
- No Snapdragon 810 = less future proofing and no 64bit android. Misses out on the 20nm processing which promises 40-50% better battery life with 50% better performance. S805 is old tech – last of the 28nm series which has been around since 2013. Heck with the availability issues anyway I'd much rather it launch in Jan-Feb and get S810.
- No SD storage
- Price – Google sold out to the US carriers which needed premium pricing to get it on their subsidised plans. Screws the rest of the world over though.
- Availability
- Nano sim – hardly the standard in the android world. Makes it hard to change between/from other devices/tablets
- Lack of Phablet customisations in the UI with no 3rd party alternatives currently through xposed.
Overall I'm pretty disappointed as it could have been so much more from both a HW and SW point of view. Definitely not a day 1 purchase for me, maybe in the future if the XZU 4 doesn't materialise/disappoints and we see more of a price drop.

Starting to lean towards waiting for maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra & other S810 device's announcemenst at CES 2015...

Don't have the phone yet, but for me,
Advantages: QHD screen, 3GB RAM, pure stock Android, Wireless Charging, Very easy to root
Disadvantages: 6" Screen. Just a little bit too much for me. The sweet spot for me is 5.2"-5.5". (But I'm sure I'll get used to it), front camera is still 2MP, and battery is 3220 mAh, but people are saying it only has around 5 hours of on screen time.

Advantages:
- Stock OS
- 3GB RAM
- Snapdragon 805
- 5.95inch screen
- No physical home buttons
Disadvantages:
- Relatively average battery (should've been 3500-3900mh ideally; it would've fit)
- Screen is ok, but nothing special (not as bright or vivid as iPhone 6+ or Note 4)
- Too thick (10.1mm at the thicket point), should've been thinner (7 to 8mm would be great)
- Cameras are average, an improvement from last year but nothing to write home about.
- Not 64-bit despite all the work that went into making the OS 64-bit ready (understable though due to processor releases).
- The fact that the Nexus 6 will not hold its ground as well as the Nexus 5 (which is still a good phone a year after release; the Nexus 6 will not likely be able to maintain the same longevity as the Galaxy S6 is out soon expected Snapdragon 810, 3-4GB RAM, even better display and cameras + bigger battery).

I don't yet have the device, but my initial thoughts mirror many on here. But I'd like to add two more disadvantages - no removable battery (surely this was expected, though). As a current G3 owner, having a spare battery with me when I know I'll be using my phone a lot while away from a charger is great. Also, current availability MUST be listed as a disadvantage. I'm ready to buy the 64GB model right now and the longer I have to wait the better the chance is I'll move on and wait for something else.

Alternatives to the V²

While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:

Cullenator said:
While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
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I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features

shaxs said:
I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
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I hear ya, dude; I'm hoping the V2 makes it, but I can't wait unfortunately; my S3 is nearly dead. So yeah, we'll see. The G4 looks close, but it's way too big for me. Maybe the new Nexus will be almost as awesome as the proposed V2? We'll see.

Here are the features that made me pre-order the Saygus V². These are in particular order.
5" 1080p sunlight viewable screen. 2.5K resolution is overkill and just eats battery and I don't like phones with screens larger than 5".
Large removable battery.
Small bezels. This means the phone doesn't have a large footprint for it's screen size like the iPhone or Sony Z series.
64gb built in storage.
microSD slot. Dual wasn't important to me but having expandable memory was.
Optical image stabilization. It was nice that both cameras have it but I really wanted it in the main camera.
Waterproof.
Snapdragon 801.
3gb RAM.
The closest thing to this is the upcoming Galaxy S6 Active except the screen size is slightly large for my taste and it has 2.5K resolution. I can live with the built in battery if it's 3500mAh.
I was really hoping that Google would make a new version of the Nexus 5 with basically the same specs as the Nexus 6 except with a 5" 1080p screen. The only drawback to the Nexus series is that we almost definitely won't see one with a microSD card slot. I'm still surprised that Google didn't get someone to build an updated Nexus 5 yet, especially with the launch of Project Fi.
<rant>I wish the Android smartphone manufacturers (i.e. LG, OnePlus, etc) would realize that the majority of people don't want a screen over 5.5" and larger. How do I know this? Because Apple make the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus which have almost the exact same specs except for the screen size and resolution and based on this article 80% of the iPhone 6 models sold are the 4.7" version with the other 20% being the 5.5" version. If customers really wanted a smartphone with a really large screen then they'd be buying the 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus more than the 4.7" iPhone 6.</rant>

I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.

My ideal phone matches up very much the same. If Samsung released a plastic body S4 v2 with more RAM, more built-in storage, updated CPU, 5" 1080p screen with otherwise S6 qualities, UFS 2.0, etc., while retaining the S4 size/weight, removable battery, and SD slot, I'd have little hesitation buying it, even if it cost the same as the S6. Doooosen't look like they're going to do that. A phone's looks don't matter to me, and I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors. Doesn't have to be Samsung, but I've had an S4 for two years and having handling many phones, I find it gives the best fit in my hand while having an adequate sized screen of any phone yet.
The Saygus, if it proves to be the real deal, it's actually in the right size range and is loaded with so many features (2x SD is my favorite) that it has no real competition for my needs. As it stands, I'm most likely going to have to hold my nose and get a 128GB S6, which for me has no real competition as Plan B. I have no regrets with my S4 or S2, to me they were clearly the best phones for me on the market at time of purchase. But I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features, but I might not have a suitable option. Also, I'm on TMOUS and most of the decent non-carrier devices won't work with their LTE bands and I'd lose WiFi Calling, so it's pretty much between Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Alcatel, and Nexus. The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.

hella356 said:
The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.

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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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Thanks, the G2 might be the best short-term option. TMo has refurb G2s for $228 & no money down & $9.50/month. It's the other end of the spectrum in price with the S6, amongst phones without SD and removable battery. Only 32GB is a big step down from my S4, but for daily usage it would probably be fine. Having lots of extra storage and batteries is brilliant when needed, like spending the day in an airport and having tons of locally stored music/movie choices, but most of the time as a DD can be lived without. Other negatives: a little larger and heavier, and non-AMOLED screen. On the plus side, it's got a bit better CPU and larger screen size than the S4. And a lot cheaper than the S6, S5, M9. If it had SD and removable battery, it would be a no-brainer.
I broke my S4 screen and replaced it myself with a $6 piece of glass off ebay. It's worked great considering the price, but it's more reflective and the touch input is far from perfect. It's still functional, but annoying, & $9.50/month is pretty light, so I think I'll give that a shot. They have a 15 day trial period, too. In the long run, worst case scenario, I end up with a spare phone / mini WiFi tablet that only cost $228.

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I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
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I went through a similar decision making process except I never considered getting the Galaxy S6 after they got rid of the microSD slot, reduced the battery capacity and made it built in and didn't make it waterproof. Back in 2014 when the Galaxy S5 was released, I was also waiting for T-Mobile to release the 32gb version (even though it has expandable storage) because I was worried about running into storage issues for apps (because many apps can't be moved to a microSD card with KitKat) but none of the US carriers ever released the Galaxy S5 with 32gb. AFAIK only the international version was released with 32gb storage. Then after I learned that T-Mobile was rolling out LTE on band 12 (700 MHz block A) and the Galaxy S5 didn't support it then I wasn't interested in it anymore. Then I looked at the T-Mobile version of the Sony Xperia Z3 (which supports LTE on band 12) but those huge bezels really bothered me. It's a phone with a 5.2" screen that's almost as big as the Galaxy Note 4 which has a 5.7" screen. I decided to wait for the Xperia Z4 hoping that it would have optical image stabilization but unfortunately it didn't. Most recently I considered the HTC One M9 because it IMHO had the perfect screen size/resolution 5" 1080p, top of the line Snapdragon 810 processor, 32gb storage, microSD card slot, decent size battery but unfortunately no optical image stabilization in the camera. The Elephone P7000 looks interesting for the price but it looks like it's basically an upgraded OnePlus One but a 5.5" screen is just too big for me.

Options
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...

Any options with dual boot phones
For me the main reason to order Saygus V² was the dual boot option, with the possibility to boot from microsd card. Is anyone aware of other smartphones with this feature?

hella356 said:
I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors.
I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features
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+1 on both counts
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The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option
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Not for me. Non-removable battery, which I would be willing to overlook if all else was good and it had Quick Charge, but it does not (of course, all else being equal, I will always choose the phone with the removable battery, and if I were to buy one without, it would be a temp phone until a different one with a removable battery came out). Also, only 16GB internal memory is NOT enough. 32GB is minimum for me. The ONLY reason I ever got rid of my EVO 4G was because I was constantly getting low memory errors, and I don't want to deal with that again. I don't want to settle for a phone with less than 32GB internal and less than 96GB total memory, even a temporary one. At least the P7000 is very cheap and has otherwise good specs and a removable battery, so the internal memory is the only big sacrifice. Unfortunately, it looks like that one is out, too, and I need to cancel my order, because it doesn't work on AT&T's LTE.

Thanks
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.

Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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Yeah that's the crazy part, I still want the V2 because of the features. I'm shocked that more people aren't worried about support after the sale from Saygus though.

Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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The problem is most mainstream manufacturers seem to be heading towards sealed unit phones, and the majority have given up on SD support on flagships. Sony is a noticeable exception but their in life care leaves a lot to be desired - the official Sony phone forums are full of threads on issues that Sony refuses to officially acknowledge.
A lot of the 'cheaper' phones from Chinese manufacturers interest me, but there is always a compromise there. Honor's cheaper phones have non-backlit capacitive buttons. Meizu and Xiaomi seem to shun SD. Elephone seems a little left field. Most Chinese flagships are 5.5 inch.
What we all seem to agree on is that the V2 offered the fewest compromises, and everything else has at least one glaring black mark that we realistically are not able to swallow. Which makes the apparent train wreck of the V2 that much harder to take and ultimately is responsible for the sometime over emotional outbursts by the various pro/anti Saygus camps.

lukec36 said:
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
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Actually the ZTE Nubia Z9 does look pretty amazing. Only issue for me is no wireless charging and the price seems high. The Sharp Aquos Xx doesnt have a speaker. Not sure how I would like that.

This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168

Sam K said:
This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
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Wow that looks really cool!

If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.

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If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
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The Galaxy S5 meets most of your criteria. The only thing it lacks out of those is the front-facing speakers. I know, some people would argue it also doesn't have a "durable body," since it's made out of plastic, but I 100% disagree. My S4 was tough as hell, despite being plastic (and I actually think partly because of it, since plastic flexes and also weighs less, so less impact force when falling). I've thrown it so many times, to the point the case came off and the battery flew out once, and it never so much as got a scratch that I saw. And the only reason I put a case on it was because it was too thin and felt weird in the hand, and the case I used was a very slim one, so it didn't add much to the phone, just a tiny bit of extra thickness and a better grip. As much as I dislike Samsung right now, the S5 would be my next phone if it were available unlocked with 32GB internal memory.

What would you like to see in the next gen Nexus 6?

Just curious as to what other N6 owners are looking for in the next generation (the one after 6P).
Personally, there was not a compelling reason for me to give up my N6 for the 6P, so hopefully next years model will be more enticing for me to upgrade.
My Wish List:
Same screen size as N6
64/128Gb (32 just isn't enough anymore)
Fingerprint sensor
6P camera, or better
Snapdragon 820!
I would also love to be able to swap batteries, and put in expandable storage, but I'm not holding my breath for that. Also, I just cannot go back to a 5 or 5.5" screen, the N6 has it right (go big or go home).

an 820, and its free

priced at around 400$
SD 820
4gb ram
6" screen
front speakers
removable battery
physical button below screen
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andy_n_ said:
Just curious as to what other N6 owners are looking for in the next generation (the one after 6P).
Personally, there was not a compelling reason for me to give up my N6 for the 6P, so hopefully next years model will be more enticing for me to upgrade.
My Wish List:
Same screen size as N6
64/128Gb (32 just isn't enough anymore)
Fingerprint sensor
6P camera, or better
Snapdragon 820!
I would also love to be able to swap batteries, and put in expandable storage, but I'm not holding my breath for that. Also, I just cannot go back to a 5 or 5.5" screen, the N6 has it right (go big or go home).
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Exactly what you said... I totally agree with everything including the same screen size and removable battery, perhaps an aluminum body and they could make it little thinner. Also I like the curved back in my hand but sometimes I wish it would sit flat on a table so I could set it down on a table and it would stay still when I touch the screen. Oh ya... More RAM I believe the more the merrier when it comes to RAM.

-6" screen, prefer LCD but I can live with AMOLED
-SD 820
-4 GB RAM
-USB type C
-wireless charging
-improved camera, especially in low light conditions
-thinner top and bottom bezel
-front speakers that don't collect tons of dust and lint
-FM radio
-notification slider like OnePlus 2

why lcd?
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AhmadOkda said:
why lcd?
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I'd rather not have to deal with burn in.

$500
Same soft touch plastic feel
6 inch screen
32, 64 and 128gb Configurations
Wireless charging and quick charge 3.0 through type C
Snapdragon 820
Fingerprint sensor
An RGB LED that works out of the box and supports custom colors better
3400 mAh + Battery
6p Camera or better
Sort of the basic list everyone has but, I thought I would chime in.

-small left and right bezels.
-Personally I'd love an excellent quality IPS display 4k? or 4k capable for videos or whatever 1080p scales great 2x2 4k pix = 1 1080p pix.
-screen doesn't need to nessecarilly get bigger...
-3D TOUCH almost forgot that.
-usb 3(.1) type-c.
-fingerprint sensor (built into the glass not likely I know).
-I'm ok with a 32gb storage but updated to NVMe >300mb/s >50k IOps. Apple has some nice results from this.
-faster faster faster encryption storage speed should be bottleneck not encryption.
-Qualcomm's best whether thats 820 or the 82000.
-MicroSD or some similar extra storage but treat it as separate as to not drag down performance with that NVMe storage (let me put my musics and those giant 4k videos on it).
-moar battery 4k screen = 4kmah battery?
-Front speakers of the upmost super duper quality.
-LED notification on the front since an LCD would kill ambient display kinda.
-IR thingy
-wireless charging with fast charging
Runnin' outa maybe almost pheasible stuff...
-a DAC?
-dual boot recoveries. (dual-boot the right word for that? probly not.)
-idunno 1000fps camera? (but srsly yea more slow mo c
-coffee maker
-wave hand over screen like moto x had.
-samsung pay-esque magnetic strip payments (i'd probably go unrooted for this)
-waterproof
-lazer pointer
-thought generator to think up more features...
I'd probably settle for a 820 in a n6p tbh Really would like that NVMe though.

A 4000 mAh battery for longer usage/standby time and T2W out of the box.

I am happy with nexus 6 for what it is at the moment but snapdragon 820 and 4000 mah battery would be my priorities.

How about a Nexus 6P only with a Nexus 6 screen?

Same sized screen. Base of 64Gb. Removable battery and/or SD card slot.

Wireless charging is essential, or I'd never consider it regardless of the other spec.
Charging/notification LED (that's actually supported).
Guarantee of no warranty issues if you choose to unlock the bootloader or root the device.

A really good camera.
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bigbaluka said:
How about a Nexus 6P only with a Nexus 6 screen?
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Why ... The screen on 6p is better lol... Wtf

shayneflashindaily said:
Why ... The screen on 6p is better lol... Wtf
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My bad I thought the 6P had a slightly smaller screen. I like the 6P but it's too narrow for me, I wish it was as wide as the Nexus 6.

Something not Huawei.

nexus 6x made by apple in california assembled in CHINA

- Something better looking than the visor
- Qualcomm's quick charging, not whatever the 6p has
- Dual SIM (huge outside of the US in many other countries)
- Wireless charging
- Waterproof
- OIS
- FM radio
- Hi-Fi audio driver
- Google built
So, basically I just described... A metal built Sony Xperia with QHD AMOLED, comfortable to hold, dual SIM, and stock Android that will be the first Pixel phone.

Sub 4.8" phone - should I get S5 mini?

I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
Contry: EU
Use: phone, podcasts, camera!, navigation

I'm on the same boat as you. What did you decided?

ArcherGT2 said:
I'm on the same boat as you. What did you decided?
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There is nothing.
Galaxy S5 mini probably comes the closest, but it is still disqualified by crappy fingerprint scanner, slow CPU and possibly problems updating to Marshmallow. If I HAD to buy a phone, I would probably get it, But it is not enough to justify a switch from Lg G2 (especially, since there is some progress in works on getting stock LG G2 camera quality on CM-based roms).
I am waiting for S7 mini, but it looks like it might share the faith of S6 mini (ie. it won't exist).
So for the time being I am sticking to my Lg G2 f320 and hoping a trend to smaller flagships that has appearently bashfully began, will bear some smaller flagship-grade phones.

Well, let's hold hands until that happens hahaha
Cheers mate

impactor said:
There is nothing.
Galaxy S5 mini probably comes the closest, but it is still disqualified by crappy fingerprint scanner, slow CPU and possibly problems updating to Marshmallow. If I HAD to buy a phone, I would probably get it, But it is not enough to justify a switch from Lg G2 (especially, since there is some progress in works on getting stock LG G2 camera quality on CM-based roms).
I am waiting for S7 mini, but it looks like it might share the faith of S6 mini (ie. it won't exist).
So for the time being I am sticking to my Lg G2 f320 and hoping a trend to smaller flagships that has appearently bashfully began, will bear some smaller flagship-grade phones.
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The new Galaxy A (2016) series are actually the new S7/S6 mini-s! Why not?
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Hicham03 said:
The new Galaxy A (2016) series are actually the new S7/S6 mini-s! Why not?
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Let me look at my notes for 'why not'... Let's see... Ah, here it is:
- as heavy or heavier as the certainly not 'mini' Lg G2
- not waterproof
- no optical stabilization of camera

impactor said:
Let me look at my notes for 'why not'... Let's see... Ah, here it is:
- as heavy or heavier as the certainly not 'mini' Lg G2
- not waterproof
- no optical stabilization of camera
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Oh, I see...
I'll search about the phone that match your criteria..
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Why LG is so stupid

that it can't implement the "night mode" similar to that of Huawei P20 Pro? So the camera could produce clear night shot while being holding stable for 3 seconds and stitch several photos together using neuro network algorithm

Billy Madison said:
that it can't implement the "night mode" similar to that of Huawei P20 Pro? So the camera could produce clear night shot while being holding stable for 3 seconds and stitch several photos together using neuro network algorithm
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I analyzed the video, there are 3 different circles below representing the 3 cameras on the back . The scene is at night, so LG wants to show us that their new device can take very good pictures at night even with the potrait mode. it comes with build in portrait . The amazing thing is that the switch between the 3 cameras runs smoothly a.f
Also i think one camera stands for Ultra Zoom + Portrait mode, the second one for our well known Wide Cam and the third for the normale cam

Well I think LG is stupid for a few reasons:
- They've started to follow other phones starting with the v30 (stupid glass bodies, water resistant non-removable batteries, their own AI software, stupid notches)
- stopped supporting removable batteries, the main reason I switched to LG from Samsung in the first place
They were trend setters (dual lens cameras, DAC, minimal bezels, module design) and now they're just another company in the sea of smart phones that copies whatever trends Apple and Samsung start.
Their prices aren't competitive, there really is nothing to me (outside of the dac) that really differentiates it from the competition.
My next phone will likely be the Note (because I loved the stylus on the note 3) or the premium budget brands (OnePlus, Huawei)
The only way I'd stick with LG is if they offered a large battery capacity versus the competition or made it a real Note competitor by making it the premium version of the Stylo.
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evo4g63t said:
Well I think LG is stupid for a few reasons:
- They've started to follow other phones starting with the v30 (stupid glass bodies, water resistant non-removable batteries, their own AI software, stupid notches)
- stopped supporting removable batteries, the main reason I switched to LG from Samsung in the first place
They were trend setters (dual lens cameras, DAC, minimal bezels, module design) and now they're just another company in the sea of smart phones that copies whatever trends Apple and Samsung start.
Their prices aren't competitive, there really is nothing to me (outside of the dac) that really differentiates it from the competition.
My next phone will likely be the Note (because I loved the stylus on the note 3) or the premium budget brands (OnePlus, Huawei)
The only way I'd stick with LG is if they offered a large battery capacity versus the competition or made it a real Note competitor by making it the premium version of the Stylo.
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Problem I have with lg and others who were different too. LG used to be one of the last of a dying breed,and that was a great thing. Now the market is flooded with ugly notch phones,but wait,there's a way to hide it...stupidity

In past LG phone looked different from other phones, now story is different... Every phone on market is the same (almost)...

evo4g63t said:
Well I think LG is stupid for a few reasons:
- They've started to follow other phones starting with the v30 (stupid glass bodies, water resistant non-removable batteries, their own AI software, stupid notches)
- stopped supporting removable batteries, the main reason I switched to LG from Samsung in the first place
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Well most of us think the V30 was the best android in years especially since they are rooted now. Also V30 was LGs original design. 6 inch form factor at 5.5 oz with all the high end bells and whistles except for front cam.

That's how I feel. I loved the V30 top to bottom. I'll stand by any company that has the balls to keep a headphone jack. Not many others can.
IshsXda said:
Well most of us think the V30 was the best android in years especially since they are rooted now. Also V30 was LGs original design. 6 inch form factor at 5.5 oz with all the high end bells and whistles except for front cam.
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To be fair, I think LG is the most unerrated phone manufacturer. Yes, phones up to the G5/V20 were always lacking in quality compared to rivals. The V30 had great design but a very uneven screen, however they've greatly improved with the V35, G7, and now the V40. I'd still say the Note 9 is this year's best phone, but in a few months, one will likely be able to pickup a V40 for hundreds less than comparable Samsung or Pixel models. One can already get a new V35 ThinQ for about $600. If they'd release them at a lower price or bump up battery life, I think they'd sell quite well.
As for the notch, the biggest issue is that Google has not optimized the software for them yet. The bright white theme makes notches look terrible, but a universal dark theme would greatly help. Some apps crop the screen, others have tiered headers going right through it. LG is on the right path with allowing one to hide the notch, while keeping the status bar there but Google needs to catch up.

evo4g63t said:
Well I think LG is stupid for a few reasons:
- They've started to follow other phones starting with the v30 (stupid glass bodies, water resistant non-removable batteries, their own AI software, stupid notches)
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I would disagree. The whole reason LG thought that their phones didn't sell well was because they were too different, like back placed volume buttons and back power button it the finger sensor. So, they decided that people shy their non-standard approach and made recent phones to be like others in hopes to boost sales
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They were trend setters (dual lens cameras, DAC, minimal bezels, module design) and now they're just another company in the sea of smart phones that copies whatever trends Apple and Samsung start.
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They said in the beginning of 2018 that they will not make rush phones no more. Instead, they will wait until every other company would make their bad designed phones and only AFTER that will release LG own better than equivalent's designed phone.
I.E. LG could already release flip phone. But instead, like they said, they wait until Samsung will unveil Galaxy X flip phone, see what Samsung will make poor and release than better than rival's phone.
evo4g63t said:
Their prices aren't competitive, there really is nothing to me (outside of the dac) that really differentiates it from the competition.
My next phone will likely be the Note (because I loved the stylus on the note 3) or the premium budget brands (OnePlus, Huawei)
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Really, why do you think that Huawei prices are competitive and LG's aren't ? What in Mate 20 Pro could justify spending $1100 for their garbage? Chinese AI? Trojans and home ringing viruses?
I can't really see what for to spend $600 on OnePlus 6T.
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The only way I'd stick with LG is if they offered a large battery capacity versus the competition or made it a real Note competitor by making it the premium version of the Stylo.
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It's pointless. Larger battery means longer charging time and more hefty weight. It's bad for sales because vast majority of buyers aren't us, geek but mostly ladies and they can't use hefty phones. They need phone to be 150g in weight. That's Galaxy S range, not 200G of P20 Pro. That's why P20 Pro sells too bad. No one really needs large battery because it can be recharged fast, wirelessly and even wirelessly fast. So, battery argument is pointless.
Instead, LG phones are better designed, built, have vastly better screens than Samsung, OnePlus, Oppo or Huawei. Only Sony & HTC have probably better displays than LG's but it's debatable.

G2 G3 was a great success with its unique traits. Even surpassing Samsung in its own homeland

I liked some of the points made and some of the answers.
I think LG is stupid (after buying the V40) is they don't allow you to change the new buttons and sensors to the way you used to use them on your previous model. After all, they kept all the same buttons/sensors, only added new ones. As stated, I'm sure it was to garnish to an newer/broader audience, but in doing so, why not incorporate a way to program each button sensor to the users preference?
My two button's worth.

Who can post screenshot of device info hw app from playmarket? Camera tab which must state what sensors LG utilizes in V40

Billy Madison said:
Who can post screenshot of device info hw app from playmarket? Camera tab which must state what sensors LG utilizes in V40
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This help?

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This help?
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Thanks, "supported 7" isn't what I expected
Seems LG wants to cheat us somehow, why would it hide info about utilized sensors if it's not install different and cheapest ones for different markets? And we still don't know what sensor used in telephoto module, they say it's 1.0 mkm only, maybe even worse and cheaper than IMX351?

I'm getting tired of the "LG doesn't do anything different" garbage. Wide angle lens, stereo recording, unbelievable dac, headphone jack, aptx-hd support, MQA support, receiver-as-mic, HD recording, etc. Most phones don't have ANY of those things. LG's problem is that they keep technology rather than playing the Pixel game where they take features away then Pat themselves on the back when they reintroduce them.
LG suffers from a few things.....a terrible (and undeserved) image that reviewers and tech journalists refuse to let go of and a scarce marketing budget. Before the idiots scream bootloop let's remember that Samsung's phones we're literally blowing up. LG has an image problem and the reality is that they make one of the more well rounded phones out there.

I agree with @blown89.
I enjoyed the V10, V20, V30 (for 3 months before screen took a hit), then back to the V20 ... and now the V40. The improvements are on point and usually add up to a better product.
Except ... (laughing as I type this) ... One has to wonder how they let us turn on the screen from the Fingerprint Sensor ... but not turn out off that way!?!
Someone never came back from lunch to finish coding that button - - where is it normal to turn on things with one switch and turn them off with another ... LOLOL.
I know my complaint will soon have a remedy ... but it really is a stupid set up from factory.

SaintlySins said:
I agree with @blown89.
I enjoyed the V10, V20, V30 (for 3 months before screen took a hit), then back to the V20 ... and now the V40. The improvements are on point and usually add up to a better product.
Except ... (laughing as I type this) ... One has to wonder how they let us turn on the screen from the Fingerprint Sensor ... but not turn out off that way!?!
Someone never came back from lunch to finish coding that button - - where is it normal to turn on things with one switch and turn them off with another ... LOLOL.
I know my complaint will soon have a remedy ... but it really is a stupid set up from factory.
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I agree. At I type this my finger is resting on the fingerprint reader. It's easier to get that button that my finger is already on rather than change my grip, slide the phone down, and stretch for the power button. It's an underrated feature I wish they had retained. Having two separate power buttons doesn't make sense

Billy Madison said:
Thanks, "supported 7" isn't what I expected
Seems LG wants to cheat us somehow, why would it hide info about utilized sensors if it's not install different and cheapest ones for different markets? And we still don't know what sensor used in telephoto module, they say it's 1.0 mkm only, maybe even worse and cheaper than IMX351?
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LG is reusing 3 camera sensors from v30 and 1 front camera sensor from LG g7. 1 selfie & wide angle sensor from v20 https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40/how-to/lg-v40-pentacamera-sensors-t3870789

harysviewty said:
LG is reusing 3 camera sensors from v30 and 1 front camera sensor from LG g7. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40/how-to/lg-v40-pentacamera-sensors-t3870789
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So, I still may get either Sony IMX363 or Samsung S5K2L7 and wouldn't know which one I've got received? That's too bad.
And Samsung S5K3M3 in telephoto either isn't very promising, lacking OIS and having got only EIS
I'll definitely skip V40 myself, keeping G7. And if G8 won't get vastly better I seem to be inclining to get Samsung instead of failing LG

Billy Madison said:
So, I still may get either Sony IMX363 or Samsung S5K2L7 and wouldn't know which one I've got received? That's too bad.
And Samsung S5K3M3 in telephoto either isn't very promising, lacking OIS and having got only EIS
I'll definitely skip V40 myself, keeping G7. And if G8 won't get vastly better I seem to be inclining to get Samsung instead of failing LG
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Actually IMX363 & s5k2l7 are made to be identical. Some phones also use both variants on their camera (Xiaomi mi/redmi series). Just like imx333 & s5k2l2 (Samsung s/note8), imx345 & s5k2l3 (Samsung s/note9), imx298 & s5k2p7 (LG V20/V34/Q8/G7fit)