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Nexus 4 Hands on video

Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
So here it is at last, the Nexus 4. After countless leaks we finally got a chance to put our dirty little paws on Google and LG's lovechild. The verdict? It's simply phenomenal. By combining the nicest elements of the Optimus G with the latest iteration of Jelly Bean (Android 4.2) the two companies have created something that's better than the sum of its parts. Like its cousin, the Nexus 4 is built around Qualcomm's snappy 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdradon S4 Pro SoC with Adreno 320 graphics and 2GB of RAM. Storage comes in 8GB and 16GB flavors with no microSD expansion. It features the same lovely 4.7-inch 1280x768-pixel IPS display but sheds LTE support for an unlocked pentaband DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps) radio and wireless charging. On the camera front the Nexus 4 inherits the Optimus G's optional eight-megapixel BSI sensor and f/2.4 autofocus lens, instead of the slightly fancier 13 MP shooter. WiFi b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0, A-GPS, NFC, Miracast plus a sealed 2100mAh Li-polymer battery complete the package.
Aesthetically, the Nexus 4 blends aspects of the Optimus G and Galaxy Nexus designs, with a glass-covered back and rounded-off top and bottom edges. This phone looks sand feels great -- materials and build quality are much improved over last year's handset. At 9.1mm (0.36 inches) thin and 131g (0.31 pounds), it's also very comfortable in hand. Most of the controls are unchanged from its relative -- standard 3.5mm headphone jack and secondary mic on top, volume rocker and micro-SIM tray on the left, micro-USB port and primary mic on the bottom and power / lock button on the right side. The Optimus G's capacitive keys give way to on-screen buttons and the LED notification light moves below the screen (from its former position near the 1.3-megapixel front-facing camera). Overall we're really impressed with the Nexus 4, and that's just the hardware. Sadly, we spent very little time with the software, which includes a plethora of improvements.
You'll be able to purchase a Nexus 4 unlocked in the Play Store starting November 13th for $299 (8GB), $349 (16GB) or $199 with two-year contract on T-Moble (16GB). STay tuned for our review
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Earlier thread started covering this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963137
I'll let the mod's know to merge this thread with the earlier one.

Nexus 6 advantages and disadvantages over other devices

I'd like to ask those who own the new Nexus 6 device:
1. Which features does the Nexus 6 have that other devices don't have?
For example, on the hardware part, I've noticed that it has front speakers and also double tapping to wake the device (while its screen is turned off), but are there any other goodies that I've probably missed from articles?
2. Which features do you miss from other devices?
I find it a bit disappointing that for a large screen, Google didn't add features that can take advantage of it (like the Note series) .
I'm just curious about your opinions, and also about what special features it got (other than long support, like other Nexus devices) .

Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.

Have no idea until we get the Nexus6 in our hands...

Donjuanal said:
Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?

AndroidDeveloperLB said:
Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?
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Its available for the Nexus 9 because its made by HTC. It was confirmed via google by the original review that Double Tap to Wake is not an implemented feature for this device. It was ambient display kicking in when it sensed the phone moving.
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for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.

Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.

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for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.
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for #2... with the Nexus 4 and 5 supporting SlimPort HDMI output.... i'd find it very odd if the Nexus 6 didn't. GSMArena also shows it supporting it.
As for #1.... not everyone finds that to be a disadvantage. The only people i can see using 128GB of storage, be it built-in or expanded, are those who either love to have a library of music on their phone at all times, or those who horde EVERYTHING (Apps, pictures, etc...) on their phone. For me, i would have liked to have been able to order the 64GB model... but seeing as i've been getting along just fine with my 16GB Nexus 5 for the past year.... 32GB isn't a bad idea either, and wasn't going to pass up on the opportunity of ordering one simply because of storage space. And if i NEED storage.... well.... that's what a 64GB USB-OTG flash drive is for.

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Advantages:
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*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
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I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?

Way too many advantages so I won't list any, lol.
As for disadvantages:
No SD slot (but that was expected...),
No Super AMOLED (also expected as Samsung wouldn't hurt their own sales-Note4),
No IR (I have smart TVs, my Note 3 is able to control them over both IR and WiFi since they are Samsung TV also)
No cool accessories at all! All those (SLIM) wallet cases and digital ink cases for Samsung and HTC devices, plus things like Gear VR
No physical camera button... I mean... with a phone that size... I'm pretty sure they had enough space for a camera shutter button...
Not completely waterproof certified, it annoys me because it seems like all they had to do was block the open ports (Charger and headphone)!!
I know that seems like a lot of disadvantages but I was just thinking of The Perfect Phone...which will never exist, lol. All in all, I am very excited to get my hands on the Nexus 6

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IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.
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Yup what he said^ That is my biggest want in the N6 that it does not have.

Unconn said:
I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?
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I hope they are. I was also referring to sim locked, which we know AT&T will do.

I have a harmony hub setup. No need for IR

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Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.
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Afaik super amoled is just a marketing term from samsung and it does not make a difference...

Summarising my thoughts on the device in comparison to other flagships:
Pros
- Android 5.0 & guaranteed timely future updates
- Large 6" screen in a decent slim bezel form factor
- Always on voice commands
- Dual front facing stereo speakers
- Build quality
- Great developer support
Cons/could have done better
- Mediocre-average battery life (especially for a phablet)
- High res screen comes at the cost of battery life, brightness and colour accuracy without tangible benefits over 1080P for most people
- Average middling camera
- No Snapdragon 810 = less future proofing and no 64bit android. Misses out on the 20nm processing which promises 40-50% better battery life with 50% better performance. S805 is old tech – last of the 28nm series which has been around since 2013. Heck with the availability issues anyway I'd much rather it launch in Jan-Feb and get S810.
- No SD storage
- Price – Google sold out to the US carriers which needed premium pricing to get it on their subsidised plans. Screws the rest of the world over though.
- Availability
- Nano sim – hardly the standard in the android world. Makes it hard to change between/from other devices/tablets
- Lack of Phablet customisations in the UI with no 3rd party alternatives currently through xposed.
Overall I'm pretty disappointed as it could have been so much more from both a HW and SW point of view. Definitely not a day 1 purchase for me, maybe in the future if the XZU 4 doesn't materialise/disappoints and we see more of a price drop.

Starting to lean towards waiting for maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra & other S810 device's announcemenst at CES 2015...

Don't have the phone yet, but for me,
Advantages: QHD screen, 3GB RAM, pure stock Android, Wireless Charging, Very easy to root
Disadvantages: 6" Screen. Just a little bit too much for me. The sweet spot for me is 5.2"-5.5". (But I'm sure I'll get used to it), front camera is still 2MP, and battery is 3220 mAh, but people are saying it only has around 5 hours of on screen time.

Advantages:
- Stock OS
- 3GB RAM
- Snapdragon 805
- 5.95inch screen
- No physical home buttons
Disadvantages:
- Relatively average battery (should've been 3500-3900mh ideally; it would've fit)
- Screen is ok, but nothing special (not as bright or vivid as iPhone 6+ or Note 4)
- Too thick (10.1mm at the thicket point), should've been thinner (7 to 8mm would be great)
- Cameras are average, an improvement from last year but nothing to write home about.
- Not 64-bit despite all the work that went into making the OS 64-bit ready (understable though due to processor releases).
- The fact that the Nexus 6 will not hold its ground as well as the Nexus 5 (which is still a good phone a year after release; the Nexus 6 will not likely be able to maintain the same longevity as the Galaxy S6 is out soon expected Snapdragon 810, 3-4GB RAM, even better display and cameras + bigger battery).

I don't yet have the device, but my initial thoughts mirror many on here. But I'd like to add two more disadvantages - no removable battery (surely this was expected, though). As a current G3 owner, having a spare battery with me when I know I'll be using my phone a lot while away from a charger is great. Also, current availability MUST be listed as a disadvantage. I'm ready to buy the 64GB model right now and the longer I have to wait the better the chance is I'll move on and wait for something else.

[Q] What do you want to see on a 2015 smartphone? :)

Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front-facing stereo speakers
- 8MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Stock Android
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810
- 4GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4000mAh battery
- 16gb - 128gb storage capacity
- Variety of colour options
Yes... A long list of configuration. Boring, I know. So I decided to make a video on this 'Dream Smartphone' of mine, which I called the '2015 Concept Smartphone'.
I am new user to XDADEVELOPERS, so I cannot post links. Dam. But if you type in 'XTPN 2015 Concept Smartphone' in your YouTube search, it should be the first video.
And please do check it out! It'll help a lot
On a side note, please excuse my poor video editing and 3D modelling skills. I'm a first Industrial Design student so it's kind of all new to me. However, I'm open to all constructive criticism.
Thank you for passing by,
Phil

I would like to see more 3D screens on the market!

Thank you for this thread.
Honestly, mine isn't impressive but I think it could be made as a budget phone like the nexus 5.
4.7-5 inch screen in Nexus 5 form factor.
Android Lollipop of course
2 GB of ram.
Latest quad core
Minimum of 13 Megapixel back camera, 2 mega pixel front. Hopefully Optical Image Stabilization.
Stock android (Play edition?)
Front speakers
2,700 Mah battery
32GB starting storage, expandable up to 128GB SD card
Pulse notification light.
Soft buttons or even capacitive keys
1080p screen. Don't really care for Quad HD or 4k or whatever. I'd rather have battery.
To me that would be a fantastic phone.

- I would like to see fully waterproof phone that can stay into the water up to 30 meters for an indefinite period of time
- Battery that lasts more than 72 hours even after heavy usage and charges within five minutes
- REMOVABLE BATTERY
- DUAL ACTIVE SIM
I hope I am not asking for too much!

@goro11
That would awesome. Maybe like a 3DS-Phone? If you get my idea.
@Whiplashh
Love a budget phone. I own a Nexus 5 myself! I don't mind soft buttons or capacitive buttons either. But from my experience, I want something like the iPhone (home button + power button). The power button on my Nexus 5 got jammed a few months ago and there was no other way I could turn on the device. Luckily I had 3 months left on the warranty and got a replacement (thanks Google). And this is why I dig the buttons of the iPhone.
I would like to see an upcoming focused more the battery life too. I want something that would last a full day with medium usage. Not a full day as in MORNING-AFTERNOON, but a full-full day as in MORNING-MIDNIGHT. This would be great.
@maheshpatel
Sweet. As for the waterproofing, not only should they improve the duration of underwater usage and depth. They should also make the touchscreen usable whilst the device is in the water. Because most of the current waterproof smartphone(primarily the Sony Xperia Z line) has an unusable touchscreen whilst immersed underwater. Unless there is a device out there that has this ability?
Thanks for the replies everyone!!

The link to my '2015 Concept Phone' video. Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8&list=UUrXHEU3hnGj3McjXUctKHOA
Thanks

How about upgradable ram?
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I want to see:
HTC One M9:
Snapdragon 810
4Gb RAM
5.2, 2K display
13MP Back Camera, 4K Video 60 FPS
Even better stereo speakers with BoomSound
Even better sound in earphones
And be able to change HTC Sense on pure Android

5.7-5.9" (Anything below 5.7" = NOPE.)
4GB RAM
64Bit Snapdragon 810 or maybe even 815.
Adreno 430
32-128GB + MicroSD slot
21MP 4K OIS rear camera (I don't care about the front one, I don't do selfies.)
Preferably waterproof, but it's not a dealbraker.
So, basically, the Note 5.

HTC and Sony
I'd like to see HTC making some more phones except high-end ones and flagships, and also, I'd like to see black ui in sony's android 5.0 skin. 4.3 and 4.4.x is too....white-y.

XTPN said:
@Whiplashh
Love a budget phone. I own a Nexus 5 myself! I don't mind soft buttons or capacitive buttons either. But from my experience, I want something like the iPhone (home button + power button). The power button on my Nexus 5 got jammed a few months ago and there was no other way I could turn on the device. Luckily I had 3 months left on the warranty and got a replacement (thanks Google). And this is why I dig the buttons of the iPhone.
I would like to see an upcoming focused more the battery life too. I want something that would last a full day with medium usage. Not a full day as in MORNING-AFTERNOON, but a full-full day as in MORNING-MIDNIGHT. This would be great.
Thanks for the replies everyone!!
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I completely agree with you.
to be honest, I would even be extremely happy with an HTC M7 with a 13 megapixel camera. That would be a fantastic phone I think.

Project ARA
By 2015 end well see Project Ara phones selling those are perfect for geeks
we know Basically phone features ,specs Revolve around the Chipset. example i prefer 810SoC to future proof it
Price ,availability are my concerns
if i could create $450 phone initially
then $250 bucks per year I think its great
But I'm still Concerned about Build Quality,Phone Looks, button placement etc
I would like to split the Chin bezel Of Sharp Aqueos Crystal and place it as fore head then
That would be awesome !!!!

Thank you for the replies and all your great ideas!
@stress40
Up-gradable RAM would be nice. Like @[email protected] said. This is where project ARA comes into play. Where literally any specifications or feature can be upgraded, due its modular system.
But I'm still Concerned about Build Quality,Phone Looks, button placement etc
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I completely understand you. But would 'technotons' or phone geeks as you say be concerned about anything else besides the specification(performance wise; ram, cpu, gfx card, etc.) of the device?
5.7-5.9" (Anything below 5.7" = NOPE.)
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Why is that? I know it's a personal preference thing, but what's your reason?
I'd like to see HTC making some more phones except high-end ones and flagships, and also, I'd like to see black ui in sony's android 5.0 skin. 4.3 and 4.4.x is too....white-y.
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I'm completely with you on this one. I received the 5.0 update on my Nexus 5 a weeks ago. And to me, the white is too overpowering. I don't mind it. I just prefer black.
Thanks to everyone again!!!

Hi every one i have a question a little bit diferent XD
What phone you recomend me for this 2015?
Please not a samsung because in my country all the samsungs have an exynos and no a snapdragon, i want a snapdragon mobile to have more roms XD.
And oviusli a long battery life
Can eny one help me?
Sorry bad english mode on XD
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Expecting 0ne M9 and Sharp aqueos crystal 2015 edition

7242
Modular Phone !!
I would love to customize a phone in a way I always want.
6 inch screen.
13 MP camera.
A bigger battery maybe...
Project Ara is a great initiative by Google. Let's see how far it goes.

Hi every one i have a question a little bit diferent XD
What phone you recomend me for this 2015?
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Maybe look at reputable brands that are releasing flagship devices in 2015? Like HTC, Sony, Motorola, Google, Oppo, OnePlus, etc. Can't go wrong with that
Expecting 0ne M9 and Sharp aqueos crystal 2015 edition
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Sounds good. :good:
Project Ara is a great initiative by Google. Let's see how far it goes.
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I'll be aware of it too.

XTPN said:
Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front-facing stereo speakers
- 8MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Stock Android
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810
- 4GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4000mAh battery
- 16gb - 128gb storage capacity
- Variety of colour options
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I'd like to see a very capable phone aimed at the masses (I hate being asked to pay more than a ThinkPad laptop for a sim-free phone - )
- 4.7"-5.1" display with MotoX/MotoG-like easy to hold curves and backing
- Full HD resolution
- Snapdragon 610/615 performance or better
- Adreno 330 performance or better
- 3GB+ RAM
- minimum 16GB internal storage free for user (not 16GB total, 8/9/10/11 or whatever free)
- water/dust resistance ~IP68
- 3200mah+ removable battery
- rear camera that is at least as good as the Galaxy S4/iPhone4 from way back when (including near-instant response and optical image stabilisation)
- at least dual sim dual active with one easy swap sim slot like Nokia Asha phones (triple sim dual active would be even better)
- hardware switches (could be inside battery cover) to enable/disable camera, gps, bluetooth, mobile data, wifi, microphone
- samsung-like hardware home button (with capacitive on either side or not)
- full kernel source code
- full android device tree source code
- source code for the binary blobs (drivers etc) we have to deal with now

I mainly want more variety @ the $350 - $400 pricepoint. I don't see the big names suddenly dropping their prices into this range but if they were to make a few cuts to their flagship's specs, it could work. As it has already been mentioned multiple times, Google's project is very intriguing. That would be great to see if get off the ground.

@allyouwant
I wouldn't mind that either. Let's hope they come out soon.
@MiyagiSan
Nice one.
- minimum 16GB internal storage free for user (not 16GB total, 8/9/10/11 or whatever free)
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Totally understand and agree with what you said here. Most devices are like that and it sucks. Phone companies should make space for the pre-installed OS and other software's outside of the specified storage. If you get me.
@confed
Very true. I reckon the price tag of most devices turns most people off. That being said, I was hoping the N6 followed a similar price as its predecessor. I don't blame the rise in price, just disappointed a little.
Thanks for passing by everyone. And to those who haven't seen my video yet, check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8
And finally MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM AUSTRALIA!!!!

[Confirmed] [Official] Specs and Features of the G4

Here are the various specs and features of the LG G4 confirmed via PCMag's Live Coverage of the G4 event available here:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2483345,00.asp
Display
5.5-inch QHD IPS Quantum Display (25% brighter, 20% better colour reproduction)
Rear-Camera
16MP f/1.8 aperture Camera w/ unique colour spectrum sensor. New manual mode has shutter speed, ISO 2.0, white balance, RAW format. Laser auto-focus in .276 seconds. Camera app launches in 0.6 seconds, take picture by double-clicking on vol-down button. 2x Image-stabilization including the Z axis. "Closest we have ever come to emulating what we see with our naked eyes."
Front-Camera
8MP front-camera with "gesture-shot" launching
GUI
LG UX 4.0 "Human centric UX takes into consideration the unique needs of every user."
CPU/GPU/SoC
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 64-bit 808 Hex-Core (2+4 @ 2GHz) Processor with X10 LTE Cat 6&7 (X10LTE Modem has DL speeds of 450Mbps)
- Adreno 418 GPU (Natively captures 4k video) "20% faster than the G3". Uses special graphics RAM that puts the CPU to sleep when displaying still-frames, allows battery use reduction by up to 11%.
- 3GB Dual-channel LPDDR3 RAM @933MHz (14.9GB/s)
- 32GB Internal Memory
- MicroSD slot (Up to 2TB)
- Bluetooth 4.1
- USB 2.0
- A-GPS
- WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/b/ac
- 4k Slimport HDMI output
- NFC
Platform
Android 5.1 Lollipop w/ LG UX 4.0 "Human-centric UX"
Battery
Removable 3,000Mah battery "More than a full day on a single charge thanks to battery-use reductions"
Sensor Features
Sensor-assisted positioning for better indoor location.
Unique Device Features
- Leather backing "Glass on the back attracts fingerprints" (Plastic backing is still offered)
- Slim-arc design (Curved phone at 3000R) "Slim-arc makes it 20% more durable on drops"
- 100GB of Google Drive storage included
- LG G4 owners who drive Volkswagens can use MirrorLink for a car interface.
- LG G4 will come with a FREE extra battery and MicroSD card if you pre-order(Praise the lawd)
Event photos
Here: https://twitter.com/pcmaglive
All in all looks like a really solid successor to the G3. What do you guys think?

I had a G2, then the G3, and unless it's crazy expensive I'll pick up one of the leather back G4 models. I've tried the Droid Turbo, One M8, and S6 in between and none of them were as good as my G2/G3. Once root is released for the Verizon variant I'll be picking it up.

glad I bought a sammy s6 edge after seeing this..

Wireless charging? On the Droid-Life video when he takes off the back (2:59) you can see the copper conducting tape and thin electronic board in the backside cover = implies wireless charging out of the box.
Also, it is OIS 2.0 with them, not OIS.

No wireless charging btw..
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Info
since stupidphones i didn get any LG phones
i liked to buy G3 because of design but reviews... i didn't like result of reviews
Now i like G4 features and design so i m w8ing for some reviews to see its performance & quality
but I think it s worthy to buy it
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no wireless charging or fingerprint scanner... disapointing

Tank87 said:
no wireless charging or fingerprint scanner... disapointing
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Agreed.
No fingerprint scanner = FAIL
Wider dimensions = FAIL
After months of waiting for the Lg G4, and am very disappointed that I will NOT be buying the G4.
I'm hoping Samsung releases a version of the S6 with a removable battery and SD. (S6 Active?)

Yes wireless charging with Quick Circle Case

tt c6 said:
Agreed.
No fingerprint scanner = FAIL
Wider dimensions = FAIL
After months of waiting for the Lg G4, and am very disappointed that I will NOT be buying the G4.
I'm hoping Samsung releases a version of the S6 with a removable battery and SD. (S6 Active?)
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Wow seems a little harsh. Fingerprint scanner is irrelevant to 99% of buyers but removable battery and microSD is important to much more. Samsung's interface and most everything else about the S6 is a fail. But it's cheap and made cheap so it will appeal to a lot of lemmings.
I am one that's waiting to see how the dev community is able to work with the device before I jump in and this would be my first non-HTC device in 4-5 years. On paper this has more going for it based on my needs and usage than anything else but the final decision for me will be made once the devs get their hands on it.
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So I saw this image and wondered, what is this area, NFC antenna or could it be wireless charging?

They don't have a physical home button, where would they fit a fingerprint scanner? Besides, the one on the S6 requires a re-swipe a lot.
Sent from my "bigger is smaller" LG G3

wase4711 said:
glad I bought a sammy s6 edge after seeing this..
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Tell me what you like/dislike about the S6 edge...if you were to sell one to me how would you do it? I am leaning towards the G4. If you can help me with this I will tell you what features have me leaning towards the G4 and its not because I currently have a G2. I will give you a hint....having a removable battery is a plus, but not a priority (My G2's battery is not removable.) Thank you in advance..
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@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.

jpaulwaite said:
@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking but thought it was interesting.

I wonder if LG will go crazy with the over-sharpening of the display again. If so I'm definitely going to pass on it.

geoff5093 said:
They don't have a physical home button, where would they fit a fingerprint scanner? Besides, the one on the S6 requires a re-swipe a lot.
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Fingerprint works extremely well on my S6, on par with the iPhone 6.
Also works with multiple fingers, in any angle.

jpaulwaite said:
@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.
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Model which was observed yesterday was korean G4 F500 named similar to G3 F460, you see, bump in index. So, F500 has only NFC antenna in the cover, and Qi supposed to reside in separately sold QuickCase, but only in korean's model. The int'national model H810 or H815 has HFC and Qi contacts so presumably it will have Qi wireless charging antenna right from the box as like as G3 had

JLishere said:
Fingerprint works extremely well on my S6, on par with the iPhone 6.
Also works with multiple fingers, in any angle.
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I had it for a week and it did work pretty well, but there were times it failed and I had to re-swipe
Sent from my "bigger is smaller" LG G3

ThePhoneGeek said:
Wow seems a little harsh. Fingerprint scanner is irrelevant to 99% of buyers but removable battery and microSD is important to much more. Samsung's interface and most everything else about the S6 is a fail. But it's cheap and made cheap so it will appeal to a lot of lemmings.
I am one that's waiting to see how the dev community is able to work with the device before I jump in and this would be my first non-HTC device in 4-5 years. On paper this has more going for it based on my needs and usage than anything else but the final decision for me will be made once the devs get their hands on it.
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So I saw this image and wondered, what is this area, NFC antenna or could it be wireless charging?
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Yes I saw this too, I assumed it was the wireless charging antenna but I suppose it could be the NFC too.

I honestly have no use for a finger print scanner, since I use android wear and have my watch and car as a trusted device. I don't understand why a finger print scanner is a big deal lol.

Nexus 6 vs Nexus 5X

So I ordered a Nexus 6 for $300 brand new on eBay. I am intrigued by the Nexus 5X as well.
So here's why I think where the Nexus 6 is better than the 5X:
QHD Screen, Dual Front Facing Speakers, OIS in the camera, more RAM.
Here is where I think the 5X is better than the 6:
Better form factor, better processor, fingerprint scanner/Nexus Imprint, better camera (even though no OIS), and better front facing camera.
Now, here is what I prefer, the features like the fingerprint scanner, camera, and better processor.
Here is what gets me though, less RAM means less quality performance, the price for a 32 GB is over $150 more, and the Nexus 5X needs Type C to Type A to be utilized on my MacBook.
So is it worth it for me to get the 5X? I am a little bit budget conscious, but could get the 5X. I have the 6S+ as my daily driver, but want a Nexus device as my main android device. The Nexus software is good and will pair up nicely with my Moto 360. Suggestions?

I wouldn't say that the 808 is a better processor than the 805. The 64bit aspect is more marketing than practical, since you don't actually use a phone for tasks that benefit from 64bit. Those tasks are handled by dedicated hardware blocks. So what the 808 has, are 4 *weak* A53's, and 2 *power hungry* A57's. The 805 has 4 *strong/fast and power efficient* Krait 450's.
In fact, the 805 has been put against the 810 and actually came out VERY strong. In many cases, exceeding the 810.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/snapdragon-810-benchmarks,4053.html
*** note that in that article, it is important for you to recognize TWO very important facts about the tests;
1) They are comparing an MDP810/t (development tablet with massive internal heat dispersion plates) to a Nexus 6,
2) The Nexus 6 is running factory on-CPU full disk encryption, whereas the 810 is using special crypto instructions.
Both of those facts are to the benefit of the SD810, yet the only conclusion possible given the outcome, is that even WITH those points hurting the 805, it is still holding up against the 810.
And the 808? Basically just cut off two cores from the 810 and call it an 808.
As far as the rest of your points comparing the two phones...
1) The 5x has a MUCH better screen. While it is true that the claimed resolution is lower, the Nexus 6 has an RGBG AMOLED, which cheats on the resolution (it is only full resolution in GREEN, red and blue are only 2560x720). The differences are pretty obvious under a magnifying glass. The 5x, while only 1080x1920, is an HONEST 1080x1920. I would go so far as to say that I would choose a 6 inch 1080x1920 over this. And its not just about the visible artifacts, which yes, *are* hard to see.. but half the number of pixels to drive, the graphics *performance* will be a lot higher with the lower resolution screen.
2) Speakers... Nexus 6 speakers suck real bad as loudspeakers. As a headset, its fine (i.e., at lower volume pressed against your ear). The second speaker on the front is really quite pointless.
3) OIS? I can't tell the difference. It still blurs when you shake it during a picture.
4) More ram... yep, it does have a bit more ram, but, android knows how to manage ram very well, so you really shouldn't be able to tell a difference in device performance. Realistically, anything over 1 GB is adequate. Anything over 2 is just marketing fluff. At least for now.
5) 5x better form factor.... its the same form factor, rectangle. Maybe you are referring to the size?
6) 5x better proc... nope, as already discussed.
7) fingerprint scanner? Well, that may be useful for people with clean smooth soft fingers, but for the rest of us, fingerprint scanning is more trouble than its worth.
8) I don't get it with phone cameras. This race to super megapixels is idiotic when the two adjacent pixels bleed into each other. Phone cameras suck. All of them. We have a fairly cheap point and shoot digital camera, but through sheer lazyness, my wife got into the habit of using the phone. Couple of weeks ago she picked up the cheap point and shoot, and was blown away by how good the pictures were that came from it. Seriously... phone cameras ALL SUCK. There is nothing you can do to overcome the physical limitations when dealing with having to maintain a THIN phone. You just don't have the space to put in a decent lens. Every new phone that you get has claims of having a better camera than the last phone, yet phone after phone, I still can't tell the difference, they still suck.
9) USB type C. Yeah, it is kind of expected that during this period of transition, you will end up needing to get the cables that connect from the old to the new. The good news though, is that you don't need expensive powered converter boxes, its just a matter of the plug itself. Eventually, you are going to have to pick the first device to upgrade to the new plugs.
Here is my take on this;
I own a Nexus 6, and while it is a bit bigger than I like, I would NOT buy a 5x or a 6p. Neither offers a substantial benefit over what I already have. If they were a little bit more substantial, like having the snapdragon 620 and 820 like rumors and logic suggested, then they would be very tempting, but even then, its hard to say. I'm kind of glad that they didn't make them with the new chips though, since that temptation to upgrade now doesn't exist, so I can happily wait until next year and get something that is *actually* better than what I have now.
And I tell you, snapdragon 820 is really going to be something.