Lollipop Update Pros and Cons? - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have seen bits of scattered information from post.
Does all the phone basics work as they should? Better? Worse? Does any mods get broken such as Wanam?

No xposed. No if ands or buts. Everything works great
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Pros: Everything is better!
Cons: battery life and no xposed
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Battery life has been great for me. Much better than KitKat.
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agree no xposed really sucks, but battery life has been a lot better for me.

Unfortunately battery life is bad for me. I lost 2 hours screen time using same apps and setting.

For those that keeps on insisting that the battery life is worst on lollipop keep in mind that you recently received the update so a ton of behind the scenes stuff is still going on.
Once it settles in it should be better.

I've been running it for a few days and it's not that much better. Music drains faster. I use Google play all access for my music. Also when its stuck enabling WiFi calling it chews through battery. GPS battery is better but gps only works when it feels like it. Noticed it does better if I leave GPS on high accuracy. It will work till it drops from LTE to 4g. Battery is usually a full day from 5am till 11pm 4-5 hours of screen on time. Today it decided to shut off on me twice. First time it wouldn't start up. Second was a random reboot looking at things to remember website.

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Worst Battery ever!

I installed more than 100 apps, and loaded 7 pages of homescreen by nova launcher with tons of widgets. It runs much smoother than Gnex with 4.1 and Att One X with 4.0.4 with similar loads. Though there's still slight hiccups at initial swipes. After the widgets' been loaded up, swipe between home screen is buttery smooth. Multitask button is also much more responsive than the other two.
However, my biggest compliant with this phone is the battery. It only ran through 8 hours with less than 2 hour screen on time today! Oddly, Google map used 26% of the battery when I didn't use it at all. Android OS also drained a lot of juice.
Any idea? I think screen should drain 50% of the juice at least.
Try turning off Google Now. I believe that when Maps and Android Services are the major hits to your battery, it's caused by Google Now. I get much better battery with it turned off.
That said, Google Now was one of the major things I wanted to love about Jelly Bean, and to have to turn it off to get decent battery life is ridiculous. Here's to hoping they sort that out eventually.
Those stats are typical for a first charge. I had similar results at first but after a few charges my screen on time jumped up to about 4hrs. I keep Google Now on.
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Freeze maps i use route 66 works great
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If you don't use maps / navigation - Turn off GPS, set it to find your location by WiFi - triangulation etc.
Your battery will get a massive jump - I noticed it on mine when make was using juice without me using anything like that.
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I installed more than 100 apps, and loaded 7 pages of homescreen by nova launcher with tons of widgets.
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Anyone else thought he was making fun of the others crying about the battery when they read his first sentence?
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ibegary said:
Anyone else thought he was making fun of the others crying about the battery when they read his first sentence?
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LOL...that's exactly what I thought. I would think after downloading, installing, and configuring all these apps the battery would understandably decrease quickly. In addition, Google Now is "learning" our habits/info. Give the phone a couple weeks after the "honeymoon" period and I'm pretty sure battery life will get better.
I've sort of come to accept the fact that keeping GPS enabled on an Android phone is an unobtainable luxury. I keep it disabled until I'm actually ready to use navigiation, and my battery life doubles as a result. Annoying considering I have GNow, location history, etc disabled and have NO apps set up to poll the GPS - there's no excuse, but whatever, it's a bug.
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If you don't use maps / navigation - Turn off GPS, set it to find your location by WiFi - triangulation etc.
Your battery will get a massive jump - I noticed it on mine when make was using juice without me using anything like that.
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If I do this, does WiFi stay on all the time or does it just turn on when it needs to find your location? I usually have mine off and only turn it on when I am at home.
I've turned off Google now and disabled Chrome. I've never had problems with maps. Though maps will start to do **** if you have searched for something that requires the maps to be turned on but you actually haven't turned on maps.
Wiped device, rooted, installed the 4.2.1 image direct from Google, fresh.
MUCH better than starting stock at 4.2 and OTA'ing to 4.2.1.
Not sure if serious, but this method worked a miracle for me. I was going to sell it, but not now.
This was a serious post? Haha wow
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I think he is trolling.
No, he just hasn't had an Optimus G. That device has the worst battery. Nexus 4 is somewhat better.
How many charge cycles has your phone been through? I think you just need to give it some more time to settle in.
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what's the consensus on first charge? mine is arriving Monday and i was thinking i would hop over to the nearest t-mobile store and get
a new sim for straightaway. Should it be booted up and charged to full, left off and charged or maybe run down from whatever charge it comes with?
To be honest I was expecting better battery life with 2100mah and stock Android but it's really not that bad. It's just average. After some tweaking and keeping an eye on running apps in the background I'm pretty happy with the battery.
I am getting good battery life, 16h off charger at 45% 1hr 49min screen on
My battery life's doing just fine. It's draining a lot as I install all my apps, but that's a given. When I use it modestly, it performs like a champ
I'm not trolling. This is like my third charge cycle. The first one with my usual apps all installed. 100 app is what I usually put on my android phone. They've been quite consistent. I use to do 5 homescreen but i decide to stress nexus 4 with 7 pages. In addition, 1h 50min screen on time is not bad considering it only takes 14% of the battery. Which means if screen takes 50% of batterry, I will get more than 5 hours. That should be more than great. So the problem is why Google map is draining the battery when stats page shows it's not really active. You can see from the pictures that even if the screen is not turned on, the slope is still very steep, that's what I hate about. Why cannot android simply standby as power-efficient as iphone? Some posts suggest that i should turn off gps and let wifi to set my location. I'll take this advice and hope for the best.

Xperia Z battery life gone 3h!!! Dont buy it!

Hello everyone!!
I recently bought an Xperia Z, but the problem is that the battery depletes after 3hours of onscreen time?, i went to the store and they too found it strange since it should have around 6 or 7 hours of onscreen time.
They exchanged the phone and gave me a new one, and sadly that phone had the exact same problem( REALLY!!?!?!!), and to top that, it's with screenlight at 25% and every battery heavy options turned off.
So i went to the store to get a refund. In the store another guy had exchanged his Xperia Z 4 times till He got a Z with a battery that worked as intended....
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
It seems there is some sort of failure in the release of many of the Z's released, i found this guy with same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191530
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I also have bad battery life, but yet I don't see your point of making this topic at all.
6/7h on screen time really yo? On a 1080p screen... maybe next year. There are plenty of people that reached 5h+
If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
Topic is useless, can't believe you made an account just to say that.
LOL How old are you?
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LOL How old are you?
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LOL How old are you?
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I don't get it, my battery lasts all day, I charge through the night and take it out at 7 roughly. Then I use it through the day playing games like shadowgun and using social networking sites like Facebook. I also use gmail quite often and I also watch YouTube videos aswell. If I have brightness automatic and battery stamina mode it can last me throughout the day. I haven't charged my phone sine 7 and I still have 13% charge left.
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Dsteppa said:
If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
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Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
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LOL How old are you?
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+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
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+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
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My battery was pretty bad when I just got the phone, now it's better
Can we just put all of these meaningless threads into 1 meaningless thread?
gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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AnnaQQ said:
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
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That's nice , tell me more about bad battery life :laugh: . All battery's need at least 10 charges to unlock their full potential !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40228296&postcount=672
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No no, we're @ 5 now.
DreadPirateDan said:
Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
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actually on my iPhone 5 I get more like 9 hours of screen time, sometimes 10. Not saying that your friends account is false, but that sure is hell doesn't seem consistent with any battery rundown test I've ever seen.I can go 2 days without charging it roughly, I'm sure the incoming hate and vitriol for my use of an iPhone as a daily driver is about to pour in from the less intelligent Android users, but this is one of the reasons my iPhone is still my daily driver. That and a consistently good camera.
Cheers~
P.S. I have owned many many many Android flagships and am an experienced power user.
Since when did iPhones ship with battery stats?
Or is there an app for that?
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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You took the best example outta everything lmao.
But I'm so happy with this phone's battery life.
RoChinu said:
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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Can't believe you just compared batteries on a phone to sex.
My battery life is acceptable. Getting up to 4hours screen time or a little more from 09 - 22. At this time, I then have about 14% more or less. And this is by alot of whatsapp, messaging, maybe a call or two. This is not using LTE. I find it very battery draining so I stick with 3G. Besided i am on WiFi most of the time.
So as long the phone can do a whole day without charging in most normal days for some people that don't travel alot, I ffind the battery acceptable
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Nexus 5 battery does NOT suck

Ok, maybe it does suck for all users, so the title may be a little misleading, but for those worried about purchasing because of battery life, depending on your usage, the Nexus 5 isn't that bad.
I previously owned an iPhone 5, and after having made the jump to Android finally, I was worried about battery life. Specifically because its my understanding that Android does background tasking differently than iPhone. Well, after having my Nexus 5 for almost 2 weeks now, I must say that I'm impressed with the results. The short version: after getting my Nexus 5 set up to do all that I basically would do on my iPhone on a regular day, the Nexus 5 stomps all over my iPhone 5's battery life.
Not sure exactly how to go into details, but my basic usage is that I work typically 5 hours a day. by the end of my 5 hour shift, and after having barely used my phone during that time, it was a good day if my battery was left with anything over 35%. Keep in mind that I would always have my phone charged at 100% before work, and since im on sprint, my area doesn't even have LTE yet, so I can't use that as an excuse for drain. Though to be fair, my iPhone 5's have both had issues (I've swapped it out once already hoping it was just my phone)
anyways, lately ive been getting full time hours for the holidays, and since I have my nexus 5, I leave my phone fully charged before work. during a 12 hour day, my nexus 5 still had 51% battery life, versus my iPhone only having 25-45% during a 5 hour shift. Granted, this is through light use (a typical day of not accessing my phone much, only checking one mail gets pushed through, texts, and the occasional quick google search lookup here and there)
I am very well aware that the battery drains a lot faster during screen on time, but you have to consider how much bigger the screen is in comparison, and the resolution. But, with that said, screen on time, even game usage, I see the Nexus 5 battery life last longer than my iPhone 5 ever did.
So, for those coming from an iPhone specifically, and scared by all the "this is my battery life" posts everywhere, keep in mind what exactly it is a user is doing on their phone, and a simple screenshot isn't enough to detail what the battery life entails. I'd like to also point out that I haven't really done any of the basic power saving tweaks yet either, so I am excited to mess around with my phone some more as well. Ive also noticed that in the battery settings you can go into each app and see exactly what some apps are doing that are draining your battery. This is dependent on the app, and it mostly just gives you how much data an app used, how long it was accessing something (for instance, cpu, GPS, etc)
These are two different phones, and in particular, two different worlds basically. You can't really compare battery life between the two because they function differently in their own ways. But you can't judge the Nexus 5 battery life on what others say they get either. It all depends on what you are doing exactly. So when you see those screenshots, make sure to get all the info on usage first, before assuming the Nexus 5 battery is poor. I'm not saying its going to last you all day, because again, depending on your usage, the battery just might suck. But I personally know when I am going to game or do something heavy, no matter what phone, it's going to need to be recharged eventually anyway.
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I find the battery life to be very good on my Nexus 5 too. More often I'm getting 2 days easy. That's with little use through day time, and heavy web, facebook, email and quick game or 2 in the evenings. Sometimes all that and even have 20% left!
My last phone was the HTC One-X with the 1800mah battery and it would struggle with a full day.
Are you kidding me? iPhone's battery life is atrocious! No real iPhone user would actually be worried about battery life because they always keep their phone plugged in so that they won't have to worry about their stupid little battery. To be fair, it's quite a feat for the iPhone to handle all that technology on such a small battery but realistically, everybody I know who owns an iPhone regardless of generation always complain that their phone's battery is weak and they either have to keep it charged all the time or carry around external chargers.
I think iPhone users should consider other things such as moving to a different OS and how maybe some of their favourite apps won't be available to them anymore. They shouldn't have to worry about battery life at all.
I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
I have a Note 3 where I get 6 hours on screen daily while my Nexus I have hard time getting 3...
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it kinda sucks if u ask me..i have to constantly charge it every now and then
The battery life is good in comparison to my former Samsung Galaxy S3 Well, it´s not as good as a Samsung Galaxy Note III or similar huge device with a huge built in battery but to be honest, as a customer you knew before the purchase what you had to expect
If you use a good custom kernel, disable processes you don´t need and don´t play games all the time, the battery life of the Nexus 5 is good enough.
im getting great battery life with my N5.. better then my htc one and gs4... yea im rocking franco kernel which is a kick a$$ kernel but even b4 i rooted it i was getting great battery life.. i never use GPS.. i NEVER have ishh syncing in the backround.. i dont go on facebook from my phone..
I would say the Nexus 5 battery is average or slightly above average. It does not suck but it is not great either. Its on par with other phones with the same size screen and battery.
It seems to me that the ones complaining about the battery life are coming from other android devices which, depending on the device, might have had a bigger battery to begin with, other optimizations, etc.
Then some of the ones praising the battery (like myself) have probably come from smaller devices, like the iPhone (such as myself lol).
I just wanted to post this to point out for those that were like me and worried about it. There are still things I don't like about android, but I'm trying to give it a chance and keep the switch. I just got sick of the iOS environment.
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I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
I have a Note 3 where I get 6 hours on screen daily while my Nexus I have hard time getting 3...
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Look at the Note 3 battery
I feel like I am the only person on earth who actually doesn't the iphone has bad battery life. (maybe that's because I had galaxy phones up until my iphone 5 and 5s and was blown away at how long it lasted) i could easily go 2 days on a charge, not that I ever did unless I had to. but anyway I digress.
I would say my Nexus battery is more than adequate for what I need. I am a heavy user, especially yesterday it was constant twitter/instagram/texting etc... And I got over 13 hours with 3+ hours of screen time.
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I know the difference in the battery.
But coming from a Note 3 to N5 is a major downgrade for me.
My N4 and N5 has no difference at all in battery life.
I love my N5 for the OS with Google experience, give me a rom like that for my note 3 and I wouldn't even keep my N5. That why I bought the n5, I'm bored of all the crap Samsung put in my note 3.
1.2gb vs 300mb, that's the roms size difference between both... But yea at the moment I'm keeping both device for daily use.
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I think the phone's OS itself is quite optimized and I was expecting far worse battery life since I am coming from a Note 2. To my surprise, it's not bad at all. I've not experienced many wakelocks, and my cell reception is, on a scale of 1-10 avg about 7. I've disabled the recommended location stuff and wifi scanning, and I'd say it's doing quite well. I've also installed Lux to minimize screen brightness and it helps a bit.
Overall, I will say the battery life is adequate, considering how thin and light this phone is. If you really need the battery life, get a Note 3 or a battery pack.
I don't have any battery issues personally but I see a few people do but I do know a few things that cause it.
The new GPS menu is misleading, you want to have it on Battery Saver, not High Accuracy, that there will drain your battery alone.
Turn off NFC when not in use.
Just a few things.
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I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
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If you are seriously spending 6hrs a day on your phone you have issues man. No offense but that's just unhealthy!
Go outside a bit and go for a walk or something. Try leave your phone at home.
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If you are seriously spending 6hrs a day on your phone you have issues man. No offense but that's just unhealthy!
Go outside a bit and go for a walk or something. Try leave your phone at home.
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Oh yea because it last 6 hours per charge, I need to use it 6 hours per day...
My note is charged once per 2 days and I never run out of battery while my Nexus is dying at the end of 1 days so yea it make a big difference.
I'll have to start some heavy undervolting like I did on my N4 to get something normal.
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Wow I would have never thought the iPhone 5 had such bad battery life
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battery life is a big improvement for me over my old galaxy s3. I can actually make phone calls send text, surf and watch youtube and have about 3.5-4h hours of time on screen with about 16 hours of being unplugged.
Funny - it's the second best phone I've had. I had no problem getting 3 days out of my HTC One GPE, and I have no problem getting 2 days out of my Nexus 5.
My absolute worst battery day was 15 hours, 20 minutes to 5% battery. That consisted of 4 hours, 31 minutes screen-on time, with literally 100% of that time consisting of running benchmarks (mostly 3dmark and geekbench). Since then, I haven't had a single day - even relatively heavy phone-use days, with 2+ hours of screen-on time - where I've gone below 50% before bed. Other than the HTC One GPE, this is the first phone I can say that about.
According to BetterBatteryStats, my battery drain RARELY reaches 2%/hr.
Anyone complaining about battery life on this phone likely has either a battery issue, a rogue process, or they use it a LOT more heavily than they think... Just my 2 cents.
One last thing, for absolute transparency - The first thing I do with ANY new Nexus device is turn it on to make sure it works, unlock the bootloader, and immediately flash the factory image. Between a Nexus One, 2 Nexus S's, 2 Galaxy Nexuses, 3 Nexus 4's, 2 2012 Nexus 7's, a Nexus 10, and now my Nexus 5, the only device to ever have a problem is my wife's Nexus S, which suddenly stopped turning on one day. Worked perfectly, battery died, then... nothing, ever again.

Major crossroad with Nexus 6

Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.
I went from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6 and battery life is about the same. I was actually pretty disappointed with the battery life of the Note 4 considering i had a Note 2 where the battery lasted FOREVER! I had originally decided that i would bypass the Nexus 6 and get the Note 4 instead, and at first i loved it but after having to deal with constant lag and dealing with samsung's crappy radios i'm glad i picked up the Nexus 6 (Note 4 is my new alarm clock at home)
It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4
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Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.
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Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.
after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.
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Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.
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im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
tsy87 said:
after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.
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I'm in the same boat you are. I'd get a samsung device today if they just got rid of TouchWiz and just went stock AOSP.
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It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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That is normal on any device. That battery for me is decent. However don't forget that you just got a new device. People always use new devices more initially before they settle into a normal use rhythm. Also I wouldn't worry much about the return date because this device is so hard to get that if you sold it yourself you would probably make money on it. Just give it time.
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It's possible that something is wrong with YOUR nexus. I get 5 hours of sot with a stock rooted rom and greenify. Once I decrypt, ROM and kernel I'd expect 6 to 8 easy.
shook187 said:
It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4
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Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.
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Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.
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My top hitter has never been misc, its usually android os or google play services.
Frank
So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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theres no such thing as "typical". we all use our devices differently, and have differing signal quality. you can really ever compare battery stats with another person because of that. only you know how you use your device. so the question is going to get changed.. by how you use your device, and your local signal quality, are you happy with your battery life?
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im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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Did you allow google to auto restore settings, apps, data at first boot up? Coming from a different device and OS version could have synced something funky that is causing this. I have noticed this before. Consequentially I never use this feature. I always set every device up fresh (same if switching Roms too in my book). I would try a factory reset at the very least. I have been trying hard to kill my n6 today with no luck, already 12 up time 22% battery left with 4½ hours SOT. Battery stats say I have 3 hours of life left.
Have google now on and going, 2 email clients syncing, g+ syncing, Tapatalk syncing, roughtly 4 active hangouts going, and updated 8+ apps from play store.
Been actively trying to duplicate a power day on this thing. With you experience, something is off with your description and worth experimenting some.
I did do the wireless sync due to some apps needing to recover data.
Maybe I'll try a reset and manually download the apps.
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Ive had my phone for a couple weeks now. The first week I had it obviously I was playing around with it a ton and trying different Qi chargers to see how they work. My battery life was unimpressive at 8-10 hours. I was hoping to have at least a full days worth of time based on everything this is supposed to have.
Then I tried a couple things. I turned off the stupid fit application. I ran the battery all the way down until the phone literally turned off. Then I used only wall USB chargers to charge it up.
Now with the same type of usage 3-4 hours of screen time, Im typically getting at least 18-24 hours of battery life. I even managed 30 hours once. Anyway, Im extremely happy with the way this phone is holding up now. Obviously YMMV but I think if you find the right tweaks for the way you use it, it should last longer than you expect.
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So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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So Far Today by your stats i will give you mine.
@ 27% Battery Left after flashing Stock a 1.5 days ago rooted/decrypted
Screen is at 4:30:09 @ 42% Usage
Phone Radio 15:30:41 @ 4% usage
Wifi Active 3:24:12 1% usage
Held Awake 2:23:26 0% usage
App Usage 53%
I also have a persistent System (ADSPD) drain that while i don't know how much its draining app sucker puts it at 13.8% vs the next drainer of Android System at 7.3%
Just guessing maybe you are in a poorer signal area than I? Basing that on your phone radio using much more of the percentage?
For what its worth you saw my screen on time. GSAM is predicting 6h 58m total for the day if i run it to 0.

Buyers remorse

I love this phone, but the up and down issues are disappointing. One day I have really good battery life and the next day the opposite. Apps unfortunately like Pandora are still closing in the background. I am now debating if rooting and throwing a rom is worth breaking the warranty. Anyone else in the same boat?
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NYLUVBUG said:
I love this phone, but the up and down issues are disappointing. One day I have really good battery life and the next day the opposite. Apps unfortunately like Pandora are still closing in the background. I am now debating if rooting and throwing a rom is worth breaking the warranty. Anyone else in the same boat?
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I'm also considering rooting. I always used to with previous phones, but this time around I just haven't felt like it. I was hoping the latest OTA would improve the battery life...nah. Maybe a debloated rom like Xtrestolite would do the trick.
I feel very strongly that I shouldn't have to install a different rom or turn off certain features in order to have good battery life. Samsung should have made the phone thicker (bigger battery). I'm also shocked at the ram management of this phone.
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I'm also considering rooting. I always used to with previous phones, but this time around I just haven't felt like it. I was hoping the latest OTA would improve the battery life...nah. Maybe a debloated rom like Xtrestolite would do the trick.
I feel very strongly that I shouldn't have to install a different rom or turn off certain features in order to have good battery life. Samsung should have made the phone thicker (bigger battery). I'm also shocked at the ram management of this phone.
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You really shouldn't have to flash a ROM just to get what you paid for but unfortunately that's the case with the S6 and even then it isn't the phone it should be.
So flashing a ROM will help improve battery life, RAM management (biggest issue imo), and performance. When I ran stock experienced lag when I connected to WiFi, the phone will just slow to a crawl on top of that there were lag issues I was having when typing, switching apps (on top of apps having to reload!), and even just unlocking/locking the screen.
I emphasized improve because it's still nowhere near it should be, like at all. I still occasionally experience outbursts of lag that requires me to restart but it's better than before. I'm having serious buyers remorse with this phone and already made up my mind to jumping to another phone (eyeing the new Moto X Pure and Nexus 5) and ditching Samsung phones for the rest of forever.
I agree. I don't want to have to root in order to be plagued with the same problems.
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Rooting this phone saved it for me, before I had to recharge twice a day and was lucky if I even got 1-2 hours of SOT. Now I get 16-18 hours with 4-5 hours SOT consistently. Root it and you won't regret it!
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Rooting this phone saved it for me, before I had to recharge twice a day and was lucky if I even got 1-2 hours of SOT. Now I get 16-18 hours with 4-5 hours SOT consistently. Root it and you won't regret it!
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Which rom did you go with?
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Can anyone suggest a good Rom that handles ram better? Thanks
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Which rom did you go with?
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I did the Rapture 2.1 rom with unikernel v6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...pment/romrapture-v1-0uvu2cof67-22-15-t3162603
Make sure to upgrade your baseband and bootloader, this instructions are in the file. Best rom I have used to date.
Thinking of jumping over to a Nexus in 5 months =/
As I came from a Nexus 5 and was already accustomed to having to charge frequently, the battery life has been fine, perhaps even 10-20% better than my old N5. I can't stand music apps shutting down and my LTE connection is wonky. If I go into an elevator and lose signal, I have about a 10% chance it won't reconnect to LTE after exiting until I reboot. My camera makes weird noises and has the ripple effect when launching. I also still haven't figured out why it vibrates every once in awhile with no apparent corresponding notification. After paying half what I paid for the S6 for my previous 2 phones, the Nexus 4 & 5, I had very high expectations for the S6. I think photo quality is about the only category where it has met or exceeded my expectations. My nexus devices also held their resale value very well while the S6 is tanking fast.
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As I came from a Nexus 5 and was already accustomed to having to charge frequently, the battery life has been fine, perhaps even 10-20% better than my old N5. I can't stand music apps shutting down and my LTE connection is wonky. If I go into an elevator and lose signal, I have about a 10% chance it won't reconnect to LTE after exiting until I reboot. My camera makes weird noises and has the ripple effect when launching. I also still haven't figured out why it vibrates every once in awhile with no apparent corresponding notification. After paying half what I paid for the S6 for my previous 2 phones, the Nexus 4 & 5, I had very high expectations for the S6. I think photo quality is about the only category where it has met or exceeded my expectations. My nexus devices also held their resale value very well while the S6 is tanking fast.
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The camera noise is the camera senor optimizing.
You can change the ripple effect under lock screen> unlock effects.
The random vibrations is a new feature Samsung added in 5.1.1. It is actually an indicator that an app has crashed and most of the time you don't know what even crashes.
Doing a factory reset would help you if the LTE issue. Even I dont get LTE in an elevator, but it always comes back.
Yeah can't knock the photo quailty. Really hope samsung fixes the current issues before they release the note 5 and edge.
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this is my first samsung product since i had the note 2. i gave up on them for years. i love the s6, great design, premium feel, good sound and much better battery life than my nexus 5 had. no remorse here at all. it really is like having a iphone made for android. its also refreshing to not have to have cm nightlies to flash daily, frees up more of my time. although aosp would be a beast on this device.
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this is my first samsung product since i had the note 2. i gave up on them for years. i love the s6, great design, premium feel, good sound and much better battery life than my nexus 5 had. no remorse here at all. it really is like having a iphone made for android. its also refreshing to not have to have cm nightlies to flash daily, frees up more of my time. although aosp would be a beast on this device.
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but your Nexus is smoother, the S6 simply lags over time. Nothinng can be done to fix Touchwiz.
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but your Nexus is smoother, the S6 simply lags over time. Nothinng can be done to fix Touchwiz.
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true to an extent but ive had my s6 for 3 weeks and i see no lag.
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true to an extent but I've had my S6 for 3 weeks and i see no lag.
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You will, trust me. Used a S6 for a week, ditched it already for a 3rd Gen Moto G, and that has 1GB of ram. It still multitasks better and runs smoother. I am waiting for the new Nexus. Take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQR5B-KuQ1M
While the Moto G cannot touch the S6 in terms of camera, display, and gaming performance, general tasks are much more smoother. I think Samsung git it out of the park with design, but not in software.
As others have said, the camera is fantastic, but there RAM management is absurdly bad. My device lags badly every day, despite resetting the device and clearing system cache. I get a weird vibration when taking pictures if I accidentally tap the side of the phone. Tasker cannot effectively work because it keeps getting killed (RAM management), Pandora rarely works correctly (RAM management), and apps constantly reload (RAM man- you know). I love the design and the camera, but holy cow it isn't worth it. I'm waiting until the next set of phones are out in the fall, then I'm switching (probably to the new Moto X).
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I am coming from a s5 and had a m9 for a few weeks that I loved but needed to return due to cracked camera lens so I gave the s6 a try had the s6 for a little over a month and I was feeling the same way about a week or so ago don't know why it took so long to sink in just seems like the os started to get worse over time lag battery life etc, I came close to buying a g4 and thought about selling my s6 online. So I caved in, broke knox, installed rapture rom and now I have been getting around two days on a full charge, I haven't had much time for heavy use this week but its a lot better than having 50% by lunch. I feel that this should hold me off till the sd820 hits the market. I don't think I'll return to samsung anytime after this device. It's just sad that they have teams of people to make a device and a few people on xda can make it run so much better. It almost seems like they are being held back on purpose I guess to get people ready for the s7 next year. Either way if you are stuck with the device then ask yourself if knox is really a big deal, if you are within return policy then send it back! you should be happy with what you pay for.
I know I will root at some point. I'm just holding off for the time being. BTW camera is awesome lol
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I'm considering rooting and trying Rapture 2.1. After 3 months with this phone, I was hoping that the stock ROM would be fine as is. In the past with other ROMs, I've noticed that the stock ROM is decent and the constant flashing of ROMs may not be worth it for me. The laggy experience and the terrible battery life with the current T-Mobile ROM makes me want to root and flash a better ROM.
Any downsides of flashing another ROM besides the following:
1. Losing warranty if you trip KNOX
2. No Samsung Pay functionality when it is released?

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