Very disappointing development of CC's - Google Chromecast

I was very excited when the CC came out. I took the plunge and bought a couple. Then when the exploit was released, I bought another 4, so I have 6 in total and I was really looking forward to seeing how they developed, both from google and devs.
But then it seems to have stagnated. Nothing of real interest has come along. I even updated one of mine with a google unrootable last update as I didn't want to have to wait for the custom to catch up. There is no huge benefit to having root. It is a shame that there has been no big development in a custom rom and it really has no great advantage to what the vanilla CC can do.
For Christmas I bought a amazon fire box and that is absolutely brilliant. Rooted it is a joy and ok, costs twice the CC but it is still cheap. I wish I could trade by CC 2:1 for rooted ATV's, I would get far more use out of them.
Hopefully google will realise that the other sticks are far far more useful and will do something about it. I fear they won't and Amazon will get more of my custom

the_chinaman said:
I was very excited when the CC came out. I took the plunge and bought a couple. Then when the exploit was released, I bought another 4, so I have 6 in total and I was really looking forward to seeing how they developed, both from google and devs.
But then it seems to have stagnated. Nothing of real interest has come along. I even updated one of mine with a google unrootable last update as I didn't want to have to wait for the custom to catch up. There is no huge benefit to having root. It is a shame that there has been no big development in a custom rom and it really has no great advantage to what the vanilla CC can do.
For Christmas I bought a amazon fire box and that is absolutely brilliant. Rooted it is a joy and ok, costs twice the CC but it is still cheap. I wish I could trade by CC 2:1 for rooted ATV's, I would get far more use out of them.
Hopefully google will realise that the other sticks are far far more useful and will do something about it. I fear they won't and Amazon will get more of my custom
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There really isn't much to develop on the hardware side...
Most of the development has been on the App Support side.

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So what's next

Sorry if this is the wrong place but i wasn't quite sure where it fits in if its as its not specifically directed towards the nexus one.
I've got my nexus one and i've had it since feb, enjoying the phone quite a lot at the moment. i'm in the UK and my contract will be up for renewal come December (I can upgrade in November though).
What i'm wondering is what Android phone's & tablets will be available around that time. I'm not quite sure where to start looking.
I'm quite interested in getting a tablet e.g. something like the Dell Looking Glass which i think will be out in November from the leaks i've seen!
A friend of mine has the Dell Streak which seems ok although i'm not convinced on the size for a phone.
I'd quite like to have an Evo 4G but that would be pointless in this country
Why not stick with the NexusOne?
Or maybe wait until November when we actually know what will be available in November?
I probably will as a main phone but if I can get a tablet maybe...
yea but i was also wondering if there had been any leaked stuff with what maybe coming out
I dunno its kind of a stupid question
Well, there's a new iPhone coming out.
*giggles*

Nexus One market life span?

Hey guys,
I've been looking to buy a Nexus, however Im hesitant because of all the rapid improvements to smart-phones lately. Seems like just yesterday my G1 was the **** because of its 528mhz processor.. But if I were to lay down the $500+ for it, I would hate for the "Nexus 2" to come out a month later.. accompanied by the regret and face palms. Of course, I'm not expecting that specific scenario to unfold, but how long do you think the specs for the N1 will last as a competitive player in the field? And do you think it's safe to say the upcoming android updates we have yet to experience will be compatible with it?
-Thanks for your input!
The Nexus One is a great phone, but as with the G1 ALL technology is eventually replaced, I chose the nexus one becuase its Googles phone, which means if any phone has a chance to still be the beta tester for all android things to come it would be the nexus one. The Evo and Incredible are all basically re-branded Nexus One's, same hardware different software. The nexus one was my first smartphone, actually my first phone ever (my parents hate tech lol) and I've seen people with their iphones and bberries and I pull out my nexus one and KNOW without a shadow of a doubt I have the best phone. If the nexus one looks appealing to you and you are happy with what it can do, I say you wont be dissapointed. But, if you are hesitant and iffy on the purchase, perhaps wait and see whats around Androids corner. I love my nexus one and from what I see from competitive android smartphones and still think mine is the best.
-Cheers with your decision
Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
The rumor/heresay is that the N2 will be out in Nov. Then just repeat the cycle of selling old, use money towards the new one.
Kind of like you're leasing the best phone at the moment
If you say n2 will come and will wait, and when the n2 comes out ou can wait for the n3. you can do two things.
Buy a new phone, and sell it after few months to buy a new one. if you sell it before a newer version comes out you can sell it almost the same price you bought it. put some extre $ and buy a new one. I do this > i had over 30 phones in my life > i'm 22 years now
or what you also can do is skip a generation. so if you buy n1 skip n2 and wait for n3 (for example). so you can use you don't have to switch phones that often.
I bought the N1 as my first smartphone and have been very happy with it. I would say it will last a while since Google demonstrated their new OS (Android 2.2) on it and also previewed the release after that on a N1. That gave me hope to know that it will work with the release of 2.2 and also the release after that. Whether they will continue to release the new OS for it after that is unknown, but there are always custom ROMs that could add functionality.
Go For It
I say buy the N1 if you like it. Yeah, there's no front-facing camera, gyroscope, or whatever else the next line of premium Android phones will all contain. It is still going to receive Google's updates first for at least another year. Also, as with the G1, the dev community is doing excellent work and should have no problem extending it's life even further beyond that. If the G1 is still going almost 2 years and numerous updates later, Nexus owners have nothing to worry about.
Namuna said:
Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
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I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
Either act today, or wait 6 months. This market moves fast.
seriously this thread has been posted so many times before. just search. the nexus will be the flagship until next january for sure. it still has a long life left, so buy it and enjoy it. nexus two isnt even a rumor yet, and wouldnt be out till next year.
Motorola has a 2ghz phone hitting store before the end of the year, with 1080P vide out.
You're never gonna be "top of the line" for more than 6 months.
subramanianv said:
I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
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I already see it listed at various other places for $650+.
Somehow, I doubt that will come down once buying straight from the "manufacturer" for "cheap" is no longer an option.

Buying a spare nexus

hey guys!
I'm a looong time lurker here, but now I thought I'll ask for advice
Now that google is phasing out the nexus, is it a good idea to buy a spare? I totally love mine, and am not a big gamer.I just love to tinker
Thanks!
The person who can answer that the best is you really. Unless you planned on using the nexus one for the next 2 yrs or so, I don't think it's a good idea. There'd be so much better phone by year's end or next year.
Hi!
I was a bit vague on my reasons The Nexus is my first Android phone (didn't want an iphone for obvious reasons - closed...), but used numerous winmo smartphones before. I decided on the N1 due to its "openness" (easyly unlockable bootloader, plethora of CMs...)
As I said, gaming is not high on mylist, so 3d performance and the touchscreen issues are not a bother for me. However, in terms of raw power the N1 one is still a lively beast with a dedicated dev scene.
So, to sum up: the N1 does everything for me. What worries me is that today's phones are not built for longevity, and now that the N1's availability is in question (I'm in CEE), I'm thinking of buying another one just to be safe. Or am I just paranoid to think my Nexus won't last 1.5 years??
Phasing out the Nexus? Just because they are no longer selling them on their store does not mean, to me, that they are phasing it out. They are planning to sell them directly through retail outlets.
Anyway, I don't see a value in having a spare. They are easy enough to get.
I will sell u mine
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Won't it be harder to get later? I saw a price hike after the announcement was made - by the retail shops here in Hungary that is...
I wouldn't bother. Within the next 6-12 months there will be a better phone around. Instead of sitting on a phone, get some hookers and coke.
@JCopernicus, been there, done that I think it all boils down to when a new dev phone will arrive ( if ever) from google
wil there be any nexus or something new from google?
JCopernicus said:
get some hookers and coke.
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I prefer Pepsi
boardlord said:
hey guys!
I'm a looong time lurker here, but now I thought I'll ask for advice
Now that google is phasing out the nexus, is it a good idea to buy a spare? I totally love mine, and am not a big gamer.I just love to tinker
Thanks!
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Are you NUTS?!
Even after Google "discontinues" selling the N1 you will still be able to purchase the N1 for an extra $25 by just creating a developer account...
If you really want to throw away $529 I'll be happy to give you my paypal donation account info
ap3604 said:
Are you NUTS?!
Even after Google "discontinues" selling the N1 you will still be able to purchase the N1 for an extra $25 by just creating a developer account...
If you really want to throw away $529 I'll be happy to give you my paypal donation account info
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as I said unfortunately I live in Hungary, so I cannot buy it from google as my country is not deemed a market large enough to sell it online
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Nexus One Prices

So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
Stevv said:
So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
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It depend on what other choice people have, There's quite a few android phone coming out, in the mean time I guess some people who have the $$ will pay high price to get what they want
my advice is to not buy a Nexus One.
The nexus one is a great phone, totally worth the price and options and if you have your mind set on one, dont let anyone tell you different. However, its being a little outdone by recent phones. It doesn't make sense to buy a phone that is already being surpassed. Currently newer android phones like the Droid X or the Galaxy S line cost the same as the Nexus but have higher hardware.
My predictions for the price of the Nexus One are: Initially the price will go up, as with all technology, if something is hard to acquire the price will jump as it is valuable and you can milk the buyer. After some time the price will stabilize and begin to be less then the $530 initial price.
Yeah to tell you the truth I would rather have something like an Evo 4G or a Droid X, but those phones are locked to their respective carriers in the USA right? I live in Germany right now and will for about another year, and I would rather have a very unlocked phone like the Nexus One which I can buy from American eBay (or Google store before it closed) and ship it here to avoid paying in Euros.
The galaxy S is a very good phone from what I hear, there is also a International version of the phone.
I bought mine €427 all-in
my screen is now cracked on my nexus after a bad drop and I have been debating if i wanted to spend 530 on a new nexus for a couple weeks now.
ultimatly i couldn't convice myself to spend that much on a phone already outdated hardware wise even though the software support is first rate.
The samsung galaxy s is an awesome phone but the fact its shipping without froyo for now is a deal killer. After using froyo I can not go back to 2.1. Some people might say just buy it and wait for it to be released this fall, but there are some eye poping rumors about the HTC vision coming out.
Overall, the nexus was a GREAT phone, and without the crack I wouldnt be in the market for a new phone but spending 600+ for one doesnt make much sense now
The big bonus everyone forgets about the N1 is that its basically a dev phone.
Google pretty much wants us to tinker with it, stuff it full of roms and abuse it.
We also get alot more access to do to our phone what other carriers and makers are trying to block and stop.
Yes the hardware isnt the "newest" of the new but I would hardly call the phone outdated. Is my 2010 Fusion outdated because the 2011s are coming out? hardly. It isnt the newest on the block anymore but its still relevant and supported.
Also, I think that unless a phone comes to market with Gingerbread later this year the Nexus will probably be the first device to run this for a few months at least.
Lastly, look at the iPhone 4. I can show you a handful of reviews where even mac fans say the Nexus one closely matches that phone in performance and features and they only release one a yr. The nexus one wont be irrelevant until next summer.
I think that, until Google proves it can push an Android update to all phones simultaneously, there will always be a market for the Nexus 1.

I will buy you a 2015 Amazon Fire tablet if you can root it.

If you are a developer and believe you can root this tablet, I will purchase one for you to do so. My only requirement is some sort of proof of your previous exploits.
I'd really like to get this device into the hands of people who have the skills necessary to get us on the road to root access and possibly custom bootloaders and firmware.
Post or PM me if you're interested and capable.
i love your spirit
and hopefully it works
here are a few things to consider
1) a developer might have allready ordered it
as the second wave of Fire's begins "In stock on October 24, 2015"
2) Fire sales will blow up from now till Dec. 25
so a dev might get one for his wife and kids, and keep the $200 plus tablets for himself
so my final thought is
i personally believe this device will be rooted and unlocked between oct 24th and January 2016
we are the early adopters, and as such we have to wait
Dev's wont be able to ignore this device, it's going to be too popular
the above is just my 2 cents
Peace
Ricci
I'm a software developer at a software engineering firm of all places. Luckily, I just got one of these today from one of our other employees. He ordered 12 of them or something crazy like that.
So we're all running around with them. Unfortunately, I've never done any real android system development, but I think I may start looking into it a bit.
I also cant wait until this device is rooted. A few days ago in best buy i just couldnt say no to a $50 tablet. I knew it wasnt going to be the latest and greatest, but perfect for my planned usage. However, this is my first amazon device, and right out the gate i dislike the amazon launcher.
Also, i couldnt wait to use it, so right to the wifi and update i did, (i fear i cannot get google services anymore, but still trying)
So all you smart guys, lets get it rooted!! Would like to get a CM on here.

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