Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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sorullo_xgrx said:
Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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Locked bootloader on two major carriers+The phone is just about perfect with stock.
I gave up worrying about development and started just enjoying the phone for the awesome device it already is.
Thanks I have no doubt is a great stock running phone. Is just always nice running all those great custom Roms and all the extra staff they offer
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only thing i wish i could do is block ads. i never really used root except for TiBackup and Ad Blockers. i used to pound my Windows Phone with ROMs and when the D1 came out it was eye opening. I never wanted to ROM again. then the D2 came. ugh. then the D3... double-ugh. now that i have the X, i'm happy to have a near-nexus device.
I'm reading all over the soak test is about 4.4 kit Kat on big red that's sounds promising and I think I just came in to the moto x party on time
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There is no need for dev imo.
This phone runs great and the minor things can be fixed with xposed.
The only thing i kinda miss is halo but i can live without it or could use a third part app for it.
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I have to agree with just about everyone else. I've always been a crack flasher. But I honestly feel this phone is almost PERFECT as is!
Also somewhat of a recovering crack flasher (coming from a GNex). At this point, I think Active Notifications and Touchless controls outweigh the urge to flash or even root. Even the Kit Kat itch is somewhat muted. Moto did an amazing job and all the people I've shown the features to seem to think so too.
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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but... but material... and ART...
j/k, honestly I'm waiting to try it mostly because of the lockscreen notifications and the status bar changing colors (lol)
and honestly in the Moto G WhatsApp group I noticed that mostly indians are super hyped for Lollipop, for some weird reason
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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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:good: I hear ya! Exactly my point. So I will stay on Kit-Kat and avoid Lollipop. I am hoping somebody will develop a nice Kit-Kat based custom ROM and/or kernel that will allow overclocking. I'm not an Android developer so I am not able to do so. But I am really quite happy with things as they are so I won't lose any sleep over it.
Thanks for your feedback.
I have to admit I was pretty excited for Lollipop but with some of the developments over the past few days such as the, IMO, inferior lockscreen (having to swipe to input the pattern/PIN) it's put a slight dampener on it, I'm still going to upgrade but I'm not going to rush first day it comes out.
And just found out they have removed the Normal, Vibrate and Silent toggles when you long press the power button, that's annoying!
Yup as you guys said, we Indians sure are excited. I'm just speaking for myself here, and not generalizing, but I do love the new design of Lollipop. IMO, KitKat had a very boring, flat design, which I always used to cover it up with some CM Themes with my old mobile. Whereas the new design gives a breath of fresh air to the OS, which I think Android greatly needed.
As for ART, what you feel or see is mainly just placebo on kitkat. In a sense I really don't think it makes much difference with 4.4.
Disclaimer: I maybe wrong here. Just quoting my experience.
So in short the OS is new, the design is beautiful and a complete overhaul, some new awesome features that weren't available on stock before, and other minor tid-bits are basically the reason why we, a bunch of android nerds (i'm saying this in a positive way) are excited when a new OS gets released.
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Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
well said!! We lack development and thus lollipop will give us a refreshed look...
I dont know, why do we still lack the much needed developments
However, on a bright note. take a look at the moto x 2014 dev section.
Much barer and scarce then here. lol
So Im not much disappointed xD
I'm most interested in projct volta. Read a test these days about lollipop on nexus 5, they increased screen on time about nearly 30 %. Not bad in my opinion...
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
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I agree that custom ROM development is totally lacking with this phone. But I disagree that Lollipop fills any void. As far as Lollipop fixing any problems , I guess that is based on one's own experience and I have not had any problems at all with 4.4.4. That is my whole point, Lollipop does not bring enough of ANYTING to inspire me to upgrade. I don't find 4.4.4 boring at all, I don't have any "problems" running it or using any of the apps I need, and it is very fast and responsive for me.
All of that said I do realize that we all use our phones in different ways that may make Lollipop appealing to many. It just isn't all that for me. Hopefully some motivated developers will come up with some decent custom ROM's for Kit-Kat. But until that happens I am sticking with the stock version I am currently running.
I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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Okay, this I didn't read in any of the reviews.
-So only pandora lockscreen controls are gone or even play music?
-Hmm, and so we can't even expand those notifications? Maybe there's a setting for it? I don't know lol
-Well I'm sure this bug will get solved....hopefully
Anything else you didn't like?
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Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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The memory issue is a big one for many folks, but I haven't seen any problems (so far) in the six weeks I've had my phone. I don't foresee it becoming a problem since the way I use doesn't tax the memory limits. The most demanding app I use is Hay Day, and it runs quite well. It does crash on occasion but it also crashes on my wife's Galaxy S-4, her TF-700 tablet and my TF-300T tablet as well, so that's an app issue not a device limitation. And I am extremely pleased with the phone performance. It is much improved over my previous phone.
But I can see how the memory would make a difference for many people. And if Lollipop helps then that is a good thing. However, it seems that we are giving up a lot to gain a little.
I was happy with JB & still like it. KK is a little better & I enjoy running it. However I don't care much for L. I tried hard to like it. It has a few features I liked but over all I didn't care for it. I think it is ugly for one & the bugs in 5.0 was driving me crazy.
I went back to KK for now.
I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I understand your frustration with the lack of development. Overall I am happy with my phone on stock Kit-Kat with it unlocked and rooted. I am able to remove some of the bloat which helps a lot. But it would be nice to see a custom ROM that allows overclocking and tweaking of the system to improve stability.
As it stands, I will stay with Kit-Kat and not upgrade to Lollipop. I have read way too many complaints about it, and as I said earlier, when I tried it on my tablet I was not at all impressed.
Hi all you guys,
I'm really happy with my new blue HTC one m7. I just bought it from best buy locked for AT&T and I myself converted it to deved and sim-unlock it.... pretty cool all that...
Now I'm in a little trouble... battery life suck so much that I'm starting to think that I did something wrong... do you guys had some similar experience when converting an AT&T one?. Could it be that there are other better roms for battery life performance?
thanks for all your help guys,
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Hi all you guys,
I'm really happy with my new blue HTC one m7. I just bought it from best buy locked for AT&T and I myself converted it to deved and sim-unlock it.... pretty cool all that...
Now I'm in a little trouble... battery life suck so much that I'm starting to think that I did something wrong... do you guys had some similar experience when converting an AT&T one?. Could it be that there are other better roms for battery life performance?
thanks for all your help guys,
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I have a converted dev ed an not experiencing battery issue.
There is a battery stat thread in the general sub-forum, maybe you could compare your results and see if its normal or not. Its hard to tell if your battery life is affected by some app/kernel draining it or if its really a faulty one. Check what apps are draining the battery.
aldo.pareja said:
Hi all you guys,
I'm really happy with my new blue HTC one m7. I just bought it from best buy locked for AT&T and I myself converted it to deved and sim-unlock it.... pretty cool all that...
Now I'm in a little trouble... battery life suck so much that I'm starting to think that I did something wrong... do you guys had some similar experience when converting an AT&T one?. Could it be that there are other better roms for battery life performance?
thanks for all your help guys,
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mine converted Indian m7 to dev edition elementalx kernal stock cpu gpu voltage settings
Freeze bloatware ( removing them stop update ) and unwanted apps
Install disable services app & stop unwanted services
Appops stop wake locks
Now I have this battery life
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I've been out of the custom ROM news for almost 8 months. Currently running stock lollipop on a XT1053 with an Unlocked bootloader. The phone is already rooted with TWRP installed.
Basically can anybody who's been using a custom ROM chime in and let me know how it's going and if there are any bugs? I'm looking for something stable, bluetooth and GPS is a must. Looking for speed (my phone is finally starting to show it's age) and battery life the same or better than stock.
So Kernels... I used to flash them on my OG Droid 1. It was easy, flash it and it works. Select governer settings in the ROM. Is it the same thing on these newer phones too?
Welcome aboard ... even though development for our beloved Moto X is winding down, there are still some decent choices. I am a minimalist, so I use Megatron's AOSP rom. It is very quick and responsive ... haven't found any bugs to speak of. It actually makes the device feel like a mini nexus. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Title says it all. I'm wondering whats the best route of action here. It's never been rooted/unlocked or factory wiped (maybe this is long overdue).
I'm wondering if a simple factory reset will do the trick or should I start thinking about a custom ROM. Or... is it asking too much out of this old phone?
Been looking at the Honor 5x, Blue Life One X, Nexus 5x, etc.
It's an XT1063 btw.
I wouldn't consider the Moto G (2014) an old phone. Its still actively being developed..
First thing I did when I received my Moto G (2014) is flashed a custom rom did a back up and then flashed cyanogenmod 13 then rooted.
It's extremely easy to do why not give it a try and see if that solves your problem. You can easily go back to stock.
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I wouldn't consider the Moto G (2014) an old phone. Its still actively being developed..
First thing I did when I received my Moto G (2014) is flashed a custom rom did a back up and then flashed cyanogenmod 13 then rooted.
It's extremely easy to do why not give it a try and see if that solves your problem. You can easily go back to stock.
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OP don't even bother with this. I'm a Cyanogen Mod 13 user as well and no matter what I try I CANNOT get my moto g to run at a reasonable speed on 6.0. Its insanely laggy, drains my battery like mad and even making tweaks in the kernel auditor does NOTHING.
Trust me OP, you'd be better off rooting and either downgrading to stock lollipop or a CM12 based lollipop custom rom. I'm doing that now in fact because I can't stand this lag.
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OP don't even bother with this. I'm a Cyanogen Mod 13 user as well and no matter what I try I CANNOT get my moto g to run at a reasonable speed on 6.0. Its insanely laggy, drains my battery like mad and even making tweaks in the kernel auditor does NOTHING.
Trust me OP, you'd be better off rooting and either downgrading to stock lollipop or a CM12 based lollipop custom rom. I'm doing that now in fact because I can't stand this lag.
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My moto g 2014 is not laggy but I can say the battery drains quickly I can get a full days use on it though.
Keep in mind its a small battery!
CM13 nightly 4.18.16
Try Radium Redefined.
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Try Radium Redefined.
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Radium Redefined is probably *THE* smoothest rom you can get on this phone for Android 6.0. Even then, its a horribly slow mess after installing 25-30 apps. Simply put, this phone doesn't have the RAM capacity and eMMC speeds necessary for Android 6.0 but everybody keeps trying really hard to make it work - and it just doesn't. No offense intended to the great devs who try their hardest to make these roms possible, however, I think we should focus on making stable builds instead of pushing out new ones all the while merging and consolidating new security patches into the stable builds.
I am not a dev, nor have i created anything except maybe RRO and CM themes, however, this is my brutally honest opinion of the dev scene for this phone.
If somebody could make a stable build that doesn't lag like 400 ping, we can consider using it, in the meantime everybody should downgrade to the most stable Android L rom and share their experiences between 6.0.x and 5.x.x
I've had no such problems with 6.0 even with more than 50 apps installed. It is smooth and fast. You should probably try AOSP 6.0.
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This is why I'm moving to the Galaxy J7. Temporary solution is to use any stable rom that is on Lollipop or Kitkat.
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I've read that a factory reset has helped some people. You could also try to format your SD card ( I don't think its necessary, though)
Using cyanpop n its damn good and stable rom i have ever used.. Battery life if also very good i get easily sot of around 4hrs 30mins with full 1day battery backup.. which is excellent...
ders no word as lag mentioned in this rom.. it works very smooth.. Using as my daily driver since longtime..
Some pretty obvious reasons for lags i would mention and please try them..
- Remove useless system apps using System app remover
- Use greenify and hibernate all apps that u dont use..
- If ur well aware of custom kernals and modifying them then try them ( btw on cyanpop im using the inbuilt kernal provided by dev as its well optimised and as mentioned i have good battery backup with it)
- Try to use alternates for battery draining apps like Facebook has its lite version and many more..
- if your gamer battery will tend to go down at faster rates so don't complain about that ..
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I moved back to 5.1 (CM 12.1) and have been using it for a week or more and I will say its a huge difference in battery drain than the CM 13 6.0. So far I can go 3 days on 5.1 with moderate use Pandora 3g streaming and wifi usage. Idk what the issue is with 6.0 on the Moto G 2014 but it just eats the battery like crazy; even with greenify and a battery saver it seems to not help one bit on 6.0.
So far I am very happy with CM 12.1 on this phone I will keep trying 6.0 each time a update is out to see if the drain is improved but I dont have high hopes for this device on 6.0.
Android 6.0 in general is laggy for our phones. IDK why, but I am currently running CM13 and gaming perfomance has been deteriorated a great deal when compared to CM12.1 or stock L, and there are touch micro-delay issues (Geometry Dash is unplayable). The ROM is stable for daily use with great battery life, though, and I like it but if you like gaming then just stay on Lollipop. IDK about gaming ROMs for our phones, and I have less options since Thea's ROM diversity is smaller than Titan's, although kernels can be cross-flashed, but most custom kernels give me stability issues.
TL;DR: Want perfomance? Stay on L.