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Just For Fun: Dumbest thing you've done with your Kaiser

Thanks to my recent stupidity I just had the idea to make a thread that we might share some of our ridiculously stupid mistakes that we later found out could have been solved by simply thinking things through.
Hopefully this'll help new owners of the phone avoid our mistakes.
My mistake just happened 10 minutes ago, and I'm rather annoyed it happened... oh well... another 4 hours of setting up my Kaiser won't kill me...
Anyway, I refuse to carry my Kaiser with me until it is properly protected in its case, so it's just been sitting here around the house while I tamper with it and wait for my case to get here. Consequently, I'm using 2 phones, and I swap the sim card between them.
I turned on my Kaiser and got scared pantsless. It would only stay on for a few seconds, and then turn off. Of course it scared the heck out of me... the phone is only 4 days old. So after soft resetting failed, I resorted to the hard reset... well, apparently something got turned off when I flashed dutty's rom to the phone, and the little screen that reminds you about the sim door being unlocked doesn't come up.
So it turns out my phone was turning off just because the sim door wasn't locked... and now I have the task of installing and re-configuring everything I had on the Kaiser... which I'm about to start now. 4 hours of repeating history here I come!

My buddy threw up all over mine at a party.. luckily it cleaned up nicely!
So the dumbest thing i've done with it, is leave it somewhere other than my pocket? lol

Believing the hype !!! and getting one. Well maybe. Because this is one "son of a ***** " phone to get working

Bought one. No video drivers FTL.
Besides that....nothing really. just being clueless on how to flash a ROM I guess even though I want to return it because of video drivers!! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO....

Dropped mine (and did not notice) while running across a busy street in downtown Calgary.
It was consequently run over by at least 1 car! I lost the back case, the battery was all banged up, and the power button was permanently pushed in, but guess what....it still turned on and I could make calls!!!!
Anyway, with no insurance, I thought I was up a creek with no paddle. AT&T hooked me up with a new one at 1/2 cost. I guess they heard the pain in my voice when I explained what happened.

last week end i made the stupid mistake of making an infinite loop on my today screen.
i was messing around trying to find a way to hide the VitoFindMe text at the bottom of my today screen, and since SPB Pocket plus (for some reason) didn't hold the plugin, i tried PocketBreeze, it put it in and it worked. so i put PocketPlus as a tab in it also just to get it to how i like, but it didnt allow me to put a personal tab as the default and i didnt need all of the extras, so i turned it off and put SPB back on the today. I decided to try one more time to put FindMe in SPB before i gave up, but i accidentally put PocketBreeze in it, and since PocketBreeze had SPB in it, it basically looped, froze and stopped on trying to boot when reset... so now i had to hard reset and i had to go through the task of putting all of my programs and stuff back on!
Yey what fun.

I bricked mine

ericc191 said:
My buddy threw up all over mine at a party.. luckily it cleaned up nicely!
So the dumbest thing i've done with it, is leave it somewhere other than my pocket? lol
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Wow. My friend would have had to die after that one

tyeo098 said:
I bricked mine
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how?!?!

RLoD very simple

I picked it up to check if SK Tools had finished cleaning ....................
while making whoopie with the ole' lady. Yeah, I got slapped upside the head with my Tilt & no more nookie for 2-weeks.
& boy, does she hate Lori now. (That's my Tilt name because I like the slightly *****y tone of Lori TomTom's voice)

Pwnt !

I accidentally locked my SIM card tryin to set up my keypad lock everytime u take the phone out of sleep mode. I was scared ****less. I could barley even hold the stylus in my hand to try and fix. basically, i had to log in to my wireless account on at&t, found my PUK code and everything was straight after that.

When I first got my Tilt, I kept it plugged in, since I have heard you should fully charge when you first get it. Well, I went to sync it, and it simply would not sync at all. I unplugged it, and replugged it. Still nothing. I checked all cables. Everything was properly hooked up on PC and ppc.
I was so mad, because it just would not work. So, I called ATT tech support. They made me soft reset, hard reset etc.
Finally they said, phone must be broken, they would exchange it for me. While I was waiting for her to do the exchange request (or whatever you call it), I just happened to notice that I had it plugged into the WALL charger, NOT the usb on computer (both cables were sitting right next to each other).
OMG, I felt so dumb, I hung up on AT&T, and had quite a chuckle at my stupidity

hmm, the dumbest thing I done that has to do with my kaiser?
I bought it!

Poetique said:
Thanks to my recent stupidity I just had the idea to make a thread that we might share some of our ridiculously stupid mistakes that we later found out could have been solved by simply thinking things through.
Hopefully this'll help new owners of the phone avoid our mistakes.
My mistake just happened 10 minutes ago, and I'm rather annoyed it happened... oh well... another 4 hours of setting up my Kaiser won't kill me...
Anyway, I refuse to carry my Kaiser with me until it is properly protected in its case, so it's just been sitting here around the house while I tamper with it and wait for my case to get here. Consequently, I'm using 2 phones, and I swap the sim card between them.
I turned on my Kaiser and got scared pantsless. It would only stay on for a few seconds, and then turn off. Of course it scared the heck out of me... the phone is only 4 days old. So after soft resetting failed, I resorted to the hard reset... well, apparently something got turned off when I flashed dutty's rom to the phone, and the little screen that reminds you about the sim door being unlocked doesn't come up.
So it turns out my phone was turning off just because the sim door wasn't locked... and now I have the task of installing and re-configuring everything I had on the Kaiser... which I'm about to start now. 4 hours of repeating history here I come!
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At first I thought the dumb thing was refusing to carry your phone without a case.

Dumbest thing I did was using it while walking fast inside best buy. I dropped it and happend to land on the toe of my shoes while I happen to take a step. I kicked it about 30-40 feet accross the floor. The phone, battery, and the cover all went 3 directions. Luckily the floor was carpet. No scratches on the phone, reboot still works fine. I WAS PISSED.

People keep saying buying it is the dumbest thing they did but it's not. Keeping it beyond 30 days is the dumbest thing. If you bought it, own it, be proud. If you felt that buying the tilt is the worst mistake you've ever made, you should have returned it within the return period. There are other people from CDMA carriers wish they can get the Tilt.

I gave my phone to my Girl friend for a day (DUMB !!!!)
Now I neednt explain what happens when phones go into women's hands
she dropped it from the 3rd floor in her hostel
luckily I got it replaced (rich girlfriend's dads )

GSLEON3 said:
I picked it up to check if SK Tools had finished cleaning ....................
while making whoopie with the ole' lady. Yeah, I got slapped upside the head with my Tilt & no more nookie for 2-weeks.
& boy, does she hate Lori now. (That's my Tilt name because I like the slightly *****y tone of Lori TomTom's voice)
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I know what you are talking about.
My dumbest thing was to give the kaiser to my girlfriend to play with it. She loves the bubble breaking game, and now everytime I am with her she is playing the f**king game.

Problem with OK softkey, need advice on whether or not to get a refurb from at&t

Hi,
I've had my Tilt for about a month and a half now. I've taken very good care of it (or so i thought) and have never dropped it and actually keep it in a digital camera case when i carry it around.... anyways, the other day i noticed that when i pressed down on the OK softkey on the front of my tilt, it actually had a double-click "ability" just like the camera button on the side of teh device... a softer push on the OK softkey just activates the OK feature.. but if i press down just a little bit harder, the OK key actually activates the End Call feature, i know this b/c i can hear the same beep when pressing down on the OK key that i hear when i press the end call key from the home screen... ive also tried it during a call and it does end the call as well...
anyways, i went down to my local at&t to see if i could get it replaced, well they gave me the number to call since its been over a month... now i came home and started reading about how at&t just sends u a refurb... and with all the random bugs these things can have... im wondering if i should just suck it up and keep the Tilt i have... rather than take the chance with a refurb from at&t. I found numerous posts where people had to send back their refurbs 5 or 6 times until they got one that didnt have some quirky problem...
The button problem hasn't really bothered me or caused any problems, other than the fact that its a 1 and a half month old $400 device....
I would like to get some oppinions from people on what to do in my situation.. is getting an at&t refurb worth the risk? Other than this button thing, my i've had no other problems with my Tilt.
Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated...
Thanks much,
Shane

So just to confirm... the OK button Ends a call when pressed in fully?

yes, that is exactly right.. so i mean it really only would affect me if i was using the speakerphone and going through menus.. i guess it could accidentally end the call...

no recommendations?

ridiculousyj said:
no recommendations?
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Hi:
Here is my 2 cents. I had a problem with my Tilt's speaker phone. I called and they sent me a NEW one (not refurb). The new one still had the same problem. Called again, and got another new one (not a refurb). Still had the same problem. I ended up keeping my original phone, because if I was going to be stuck with the bad speakerphone anyway, I figured I'd keep the phone I already have configured to my liking. I may one day call and try another one, since as I said I still have the original problem, but for now am sick of talking to warranty replacement department lol. They are actually pretty nice and helpful, much more so than in other departments, but there is ALWAYS time to wait on hold.
So, nice story, but here's my advice. I honestly don't think AT&T has refurbs yet. I think the phone is so new they are still sending out new replacemt units. At least that was my experience. One of the two replcaements even came in the full retail packaging, so I now have 2 batteries, 2 chargers etc...
I say you have nothing to lose, call them, and have them send you a replacement. If you don't like it/think it's buggy. or simply decide to keep your original, just send them back the replacement. I specifically asked if this was allowed, and they told me that as long as they get back a phone, it doesn't matter which on it is.

thats a great idea, thanks for the background info.. ill def give this a try.. like u said if i dont like the one i get ill just send it back. Thanks again.

so i can press the ok key on my tilt and if i press it with the meat of my thumb it will only click once, if i press it with the tip of my thumb (meat and fingernail), i do get the second click from the end key. the windows key does not do this with the talk key. without opening it up i would say its a design issue with the phone, and replacing it wont matter. i wonder if the real kaisers do this? or if its a design change in the tilt.

Photon, that is EXACTLY the problem i am having.. literally the way u described it with the thumb/fingernail is just how mine acts.. i wonder if this is indeed a problem that many of the tilts have...?

ridiculousyj said:
Photon, that is EXACTLY the problem i am having.. literally the way u described it with the thumb/fingernail is just how mine acts.. i wonder if this is indeed a problem that many of the tilts have...?
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I have a Tilt, and I tried to reproduce this, but it didn't seem to do it for me. Of course I should add, I am a female, so my hands are probably much smaller than the gentlemen here

You're probably pressing the End button since they have the same cap.

Yeah I never really had a problem with it, but mine does the same thing. Just try to press the bottom of the ok button. It only seems to happen when I press it near the top. Whenever I end up opening my tilt I will rig it, but I'm not gonna open it just to fix this small issue.

I just realize that mine does the same thing.But I need to pres it with a really heavy preasure so its not gona happen by accident. Look like you guys are little bit stronger with your fingers

just wanted to say thanks again to everyone else thats replied.. it seems like this is indeed somewhat of a common problem, but like a few of you have said.. i prob just noticed it b/c i just happen to push down really hard on it one time, and ever since then its just bothered me... anyways, i do appreciate everyones replys/comments.
Thanks!

Screen goes black when I slide out keyboard

My Xperia is messed up....
Has NO damage... No water damage, hasnt been dropped, overheated or anything...
Last night I was going to respond to a text and slid out the keyboard and the screen went blue... okay...weird... slid it back, still blue. So I restarted it. Heard the "ding" for the power off button. Turned it off. Turned it back on. Started to respond again. Slid it out... No blue screen, just had black and white lines, then went black, but it would never come back to the regular screen.
I have NO idea what triggered this. NONE. I've had no problems with my phone whatsoever.
What I've dont to try and fix it:
-Turn it on and off (obviously, to get the screen back on)
-battery pull
-sim pull
-hard reset
I bought the phone off of EBay. Has no warranty. I got a warranty with Squaretrade for my fiance's cell phone and when he needed to make a claim (it would power off when it was clammed shut...no damage to it. Also you couldnt hear out of the phone at all)) they said they couldnt do anything. I decided that was worthless and that I'm not going to get a warranty with them. Smart move not getting one period, but Ive had bad expierences with them anyways...
What else can I do? I'm @ a total loss... I don't know what else I can do since I've dont the hard reset. I'm trying to avoid taking it to a cell phone repair place b/c I have a hard time trusing people with electronics now (long story) unless I know you.
Thanks for reading and helping if you can!!
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Erinc2005 said:
My Xperia is messed up....
Has NO damage... No water damage, hasnt been dropped, overheated or anything...
Last night I was going to respond to a text and slid out the keyboard and the screen went blue... okay...weird... slid it back, still blue. So I restarted it. Heard the "ding" for the power off button. Turned it off. Turned it back on. Started to respond again. Slid it out... No blue screen, just had black and white lines, then went black, but it would never come back to the regular screen.
I have NO idea what triggered this. NONE. I've had no problems with my phone whatsoever.
What I've dont to try and fix it:
-Turn it on and off (obviously, to get the screen back on)
-battery pull
-sim pull
-hard reset
I bought the phone off of EBay. Has no warranty. I got a warranty with Squaretrade for my fiance's cell phone and when he needed to make a claim (it would power off when it was clammed shut...no damage to it. Also you couldnt hear out of the phone at all)) they said they couldnt do anything. I decided that was worthless and that I'm not going to get a warranty with them. Smart move not getting one period, but Ive had bad expierences with them anyways...
What else can I do? I'm @ a total loss... I don't know what else I can do since I've dont the hard reset. I'm trying to avoid taking it to a cell phone repair place b/c I have a hard time trusing people with electronics now (long story) unless I know you.
Thanks for reading and helping if you can!!
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Search the forum?

All I can find is if the screen is already dead or whatnot....I've already searched before I posted. I didnt want to post a worthless thread.

how long have you own the phone..?
and what rom do you use?...

Arju007 said:
how long have you own the phone..?
and what rom do you use?...
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Since about March of this year, and ROM--WM 6.1

Go to the service centre and maybe ask them to quote a price, i had this problem

dadeadman said:
Go to the service centre and maybe ask them to quote a price, i had this problem
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Did yours just happen for no reason?...Out of the blue?

I have this problem on one of mine also....it appears the flexribbon has gone bad...lcd is good....but when the keyboard slides out the screen goes black...tried another board and lcd in the phone problem still persists...this only leaves the ribbon as the culprit.
Regards,
WC

Wild Child said:
I have this problem on one of mine also....it appears the flexribbon has gone bad...lcd is good....but when the keyboard slides out the screen goes black...tried another board and lcd in the phone problem still persists...this only leaves the ribbon as the culprit.
Regards,
WC
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Ill be sure to tell the people @ the service center what the problem could be. That helps alot. Upsets me that I had to do a hard reset for no reason and mess my phone all up, oh well!

Erinc2005 said:
Did yours just happen for no reason?...Out of the blue?
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Yup out of the blue

same problem here wildchild is correct its the rigid flex ribbon. unfortunately it will take a month before the parts arrive since its not readily available at Sony Ericsson service centers...

Unfortunately i just got this problem yesterday.
Suddenly, when i slide out the keyboard, screen fades and goes black.
When i slide it back screen is still on but black.
To bring it back i just click power button twice to put it to sleep and wake it up again. I assume this is the same problem and the ribbon cable is loose, correct ??
I was thinking of following one of the disassembly vids to try and open it and make sure the cable is connected correctly.
What do you guys think ? Give it a shot or too risky?
I am not sure if the ribbon cable is damaged and am assuming its just loose because the screen works fine without the keyboard out.
Any advice would be appreciated.
P.S - had the xperia 3 weeks now, bought it used (about 6 months) with no warranty, Its X1i running Energyrom 3.0 (05/08) build.

A month?? Man, that's a long time... geeee wiz. I asked them asn they said about 7-10 busimess days, so we will see... but I trust it'll be about a month since you said they don't have the parts. I shipped it off Friday, put insurance on it, and said a prayer. I hate my Quickfire, its my backup phone... HATE, LOATHE.... DIEEEEE lol.
Ive been searching for other phones to replace this one if i continue to have other problems... but i cant find one I like. i Love WM, the QWERTY, and touch. Felt like i was send my child off to school or something.​

I was actually able to find the flex ribbons on ebay took 6 days to get them from china, bought two of them since I have 2 sitting here with the same exact issue....they were about 60 dollars a piece and are here already...will report back after I repair the phones....
Regards,
WC

hey man.. i got the same thing happened to my phone also.. slice keyboard out screen gose black... but phone is still running... why dont chu try the black card in ur box... give them a ring they should help u out... i bought my from ebay also... but lucky is a x1a so in melb which telstra sale it... check urs if is a x1a or not.. it should come with a warranty for 12 months... hope this can help...

I have this also, my pghone is 5 months old. Senrt it away and they didnt have parts. After 3 weeks Sony sent an exchange unit. Opened up the box but the exchange unit is broken! The optical pad doesnt work at all and when I make calls no one can hear me at all..

I had exactly the same problem, besides the regulary cracks
So ive send it in, and a week later ill got a new one. Even with a second battery lol.

The flex cable fixed my issue....so to confirm this is the issue....repaired mine this evening, working perfect, abit tricky to get it all apart but is doable....
Regards,
WC

I got my phone back from Sony on the 9th. They said there was a loose part. I sent it off on Aug 28, and got there on Sept 2, so it didnt take long at all like I thought it would. I was so tired of the other phone. Sad when a phone runs your life haha.
That was such a nice day...went and got fitted for contacts for the first time as well as a getting a new vision rx, came home with perfect vision and what was on my door step, my beloved X1i. I smiled sooooo big. I didnt expect it for a month! They said it should be 7-10 days at the service center though when I called them.
It was still under factory warranty, so I did'nt have to pay for the repair, but I sure would have paid if I had to... lol.

sigh having the same problem now
i used to be excited to put my treo 750 to sleep before when i changed to x1. but apparently i keep taking it out of the box again everytime i have to get my x1 repaired
i just got it back 2 weeks ago when i got fed up with the keyboard button problem.
now it seems i have to bring it back once again since the screen goes blank on me when i slide out the keyboard
hopefully they can fix it on the spot, maybe just a loose connection as compared to a broken ribbon.
was hoping to use the GPS when i go out of the country, paid and got the needed maps already. but i have only a week before i leave. hopefully itll get fixed by then

Droid 3 screen stays black .

So the phone (XT860 Bell) has problems when I unlock it the screen stays black. The phone works though cause when someone calls I can still pick up as I know somewhat where the green button is. But for the rest I can't do anything.
The only way to get the phone back is to remove the battery and restart the phone. Then it works again.
Anyone else had this problem?

have you tried hard resetting it?

No will do so. But before doing that I thought maybe there is some simple solution.
After the update to 2.3.6 things went all a bit wrong I think.

If you got this after the update, I am quite confident data wipe will solve your problem. You can try wiping cache only first - this way you won't lose your configuration and might solve the problem. The update supposedly wipes cache, but maybe that didn't work properly while you were updating. Enter stock recovery and give it a try.

Hey thanks for the help. But just did a reset. Not sure what went wrong when I did the update. Did wipe. Annnnyways. Right now it's stable. Let's see if it stays like this.

Ok sadly the reset didn't fix it. It took a whole day to go black again but still happened.
Any other solutions? I am scared that it's a hardware failure...but let's hope not cause I am in Holland.

I have the droid 3 and the same exact thing is happening to me. Sorry to tell you this but it has to deal wit the connector between the keyboard and screen. I've taken mine to get checked by a "phone doctor" and they told me that. I will tell you this now ,since it is still in the early stages, it's going to get worse to the point that it will stay black. Get it fixed by a techy or get a replacement soon. Mine reached it's point today and I am going to need to get it fixed. Hope it helps.

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I have the droid 3 and the same exact thing is happening to me. Sorry to tell you this but it has to deal wit the connector between the keyboard and screen. I've taken mine to get checked by a "phone doctor" and they told me that. I will tell you this now ,since it is still in the early stages, it's going to get worse to the point that it will stay black. Get it fixed by a techy or get a replacement soon. Mine reached it's point today and I am going to need to get it fixed. Hope it helps.
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Doesn't sound good man :-(......
Though it happened a lot the passed days since the reset ( knock on wood) only once. Do wonder why it happens less now.

Yea you can reset all you want it's going to go blank. I had to right the dial pad numbers with marker on the screen just to make calls. I say get it fixed or replaced soon

I've got the same issue here. I know the thread is old, but I'm from the Netherlands (just like eezdva) and would like to know how to repair this.

lucaspr said:
I've got the same issue here. I know the thread is old, but I'm from the Netherlands (just like eezdva) and would like to know how to repair this.
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If you can't take it back and want to try to fix it yourself you need to search for a droid 3 flex cable. The one you want has the front facing camera, front sensors and earpiece speaker on it. Then head on over to ifixit for a teardown guide (sorry no repair manual yet, I plan on working on one).
I have to add that taking this phone apart to replace this part is no small feat, and it would probably be better finding a phone doctor to do it for you, or just getting a new phone.
When you buy the part, request an OEM part, I have been sent cables where the front facing camera displays sideways, or doesn't work at all. Most also don't come with the front button deflector, and that has to be transferred from the old cable.
Hope this helps

Ok . Well I don't really know what the problem is. But it went away. Actually it started I think after applying the update . I got myself another external sdcard . At a certain moment I decided to remove it and things cooled down. It now actually never happens anymore.

Well I gues you're lucky!
My screen sometimes starts all scrambled and the phone doesn't power on. Sliding the screen a couple of time sometimes helpes, but most of the time I don't really know howto get the phone working again. I think it's more stable when I leave the phone 'slided out' (don't know the right word now).
And I searched Motorolas website and found 2 reparing companies in the Netherlands. They both are authorized by Motorola, as of such I think this repair will be in warranty.
I do have to send it for repair. I don't want to take it apart because of what bitz_dv said. I'll let you know!

No Fix
When I was gone on a short holiday my college got a call from the 'authorized' motorola repair center. They can't fix my phone. I need to pay 11 euro to get it back and that's it. I tried calling them but there was no answer.
I sended my phone in on 22 may 2012 and now they decided they can't repair it. I spoke to Ted from Negri Electronics who told me to get in touch with Motorola as my warranty is still valid.
I'm a little confused, where should I go if an official repair center can't fix my phone but do tell me the repair is within warranty..
What can I do? Besides ordering the parts and take the phone apart myself..
I started my search for the flex cable... I did repair a N97 once, within the warranty period and later on sended it in and they repaired it under warranty....
Is this the cable I'm searching for:
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Motorola-Droid-3-XT862-Motherboard-Flex-Ribbon-p/mot1040660.htm

I am from Netherlands, and have the same problem with the screen, looks like many users from Netherlands do.. coincidence?
When i jst slide out the keyboard , a little bit is enough, and the screen goes black ( black screen of death ) it doesnt power on with power button.
I looked for a flex cable at ebay, and it surprised me , that cable is also doing the front camera, and speaker... My front camera wasnt working too, and speaker made strange sounds many times, so it could be that cable, but not sure.
Check my thread, i have also uploaded a video to make it more clear
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955892

My Nightmare Z1 (calls not working)

So back in January the 10th I made the mistake of buying my lovely Sony Xperia Z1, and as soon as I took it out of the box and started calling people I started getting told that they couldn't understand what the hell I was saying. I was really happy with my phone otherwise, and didn't want to turn in the phone. So I waited for the 4.4 update hoping it would fix it. I waited for quite some time, because every time I checked it was just one week away from release or something like that.
Anyways, when the phone finally got released, it didn't fix a thing, (and made the notification pull down menu ugly as hell, lol)
So I turned my phone in for repairs. About 2 weeks later it was returned to me, no problems found. And I got it back in the same condition, just factory reset. Wonderful.
So I went back with it again, explaining it in further detail, that it was sporadic, only sometimes would my calls become really choppy, and nobody would be able to understand me. So we wrote a much more detailed report on what is wrong with the phone, explaining everything.
Once again I get it back, no errors found, but factory reset. Only now the camera locks up every time I take a picture, and the power off button won't work, the wifi is slow as hell, cant watch videos, streams, anything. And I keep losing the signal.
Anyways, I've turned the device in now for the third time, but I have a feeling itll get returned still broken as hell, or even more broken somehow.
I talked to the guy at the shop, and he said they couldn't give me a new phone, even a new z1, either, if thhey don't find an error.
In the beginning the guys at the place I bought the phone thought it was because of the place I lived (a mountain village in the middle of nowhere)
But now I've moved across norway into a pretty big city, and same issues wherever I go
So now I'm at the end of my ropes, I'm starting to think I should just leave it in my car as a GPS and keep using my nexus 4. That or tape it to my toilet and use it as a doo doo target.