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Need help - Moto X on Verizon - yes or no?

Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,

Most people would always recommend the Dev. edition because its already unlocked.. But if ur not doing anything (Roms etc) there's not really a point... I love my x bit as far as the samoled screed goes I don't know..as far as being 10 months old.. Its done well. In my opinion..but regardless how its doing...its interesting t see what other ppl think since lenovo bought moto from google ..
Slapped my Moto

I really like my Moto X. I'm happy I went with it over any other phone last year. For me it has the best features. The Active Display and Touchless controls are fantastic.
I have the Developer Edition and run Moto Stock based ROMs. Eclipse and Krypotnite. All Motorola features work on them plus there's two, going to be three stock kernels soon.
Battery life is great.
With that being said, if you don't need a phone at this time I'd wait to see what's coming. The Moto X+1.

SahilC said:
Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.

SahilC said:
Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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The X is still a nice device.
Going with Verizon, I would only ever consider getting the Developer Edition X for Verizon. Why? Beacause you can unlock the bootloader to root and disable write protection. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty. After unlocking the bootloader you can also flash custom or 3rd party roms.
The regular Moto Maker and "retail" Verizon X can not have their bootloaders unlocked (unless the Chinese Middleman can come through for you, which is not as reliable lately and voids your warranty). This means you can't root, can't disable write protection, and can not install anything but the factory roms. So you are STUCK with how your phone is out of the box. If Moto/VZW stop pushing updates for the X you are stuck.
Don't get me wrong, a stock X is a nice device, and will work great. But you mentioned when moto stops officially updating, which implies you want the ability to flash something later (which is only possible with an unlocked bootloader)
I like my X, I've recommended it to friends and family. Its the right size. Snappy. Responsive. The only real draw back is no SD card (I would mostly use for media), and the camera is still a little lacking for me. Light needs to be "just right" to get an awesome picture.

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I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.
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500mb?! I'd blow that in a day...maybe two... But glad to hear ur giving it a try!
Slapped my Moto

I have a verizon DE phone....the phone works great with liquidsmooth (which uses 4.4.4) instead of the stock ROM. The only outstanding problem for me is that the phone will not link cleanly with my car....it connects and then disconnects and keeps repeating that loop. I've tried every standard ROM and they all have the problem...as does liquidsmooth. Bluetooth, however, works perfectly with my pebble watch. If you are concerned about it linking with your car, go to a verizon store and see if you can link the phone...and if it stays linked.

Moto X is an awesome phone! Then again you asked it in a Moto X forum
As for on Verizon, I agree with what others said. If you are looking for OEM dev support than Motorola is exceptional with that and has promised Android 5 on this phone. For that you only need the locked up device. If you are wondering about 3rd party ROM's like CyanogenMod then you need the dev version of the phone.
I personally have my X bootloader unlocked but I find i use the stock Motorola image over custom roms. The only thing I like about having my X unlocked is I installed Xposed framework for extra configuration options. For that you need to be rooted. Its easier to root and to sustain root if your bootloader is unlocked.
Hope this helps.

awesome phoen
I agree with scoobaspeaz, I have done the same thing, unlocked the boot-loader and rooted the device, but I stayed on stock rom with xposed. If you know how to use tasker, the possibilities of this phone are endless.
It is incredibly fast and responsive, even after almost a year of using it. I have never wiped the phone and started over and I've only had to actually restart the device a handful of times. I can safely say that I've restarted the device more times to show off a cool no boot animation, than I've restarted it for any other reasons.
Also, as far as getting it before the x+1 comes out.... I say get it and then when you replace it, find a way to utilize the old phone for always listening capabilities in your house. It may take some money and ingenuity, but the things you could do will be amazing.

If you want root, buy the developer edition. Otherwise, buy one off MotoMaker.
I have several "upgrades" to burn on my family plan but haven't had any urge to grab one of the flagships on the cheap. The only thing I have ever felt was missing was an external microSD card slot and removable battery, but I bought a 64gb Sandisk Dual-USB OTG memory stick and a Jackery charger. Not as elegant but it works just the same and gives me more options for the future. I always had spare batteries and 32gb SD cards for my previous Android phones, but they became a bit of a hassle with having to power the phone down to change batteries or get access to the SD card (and SIM). My previous phones (Galaxy Nexus and Note 2) didn't have external access to either card.

[Q] Should I switch from Verizon Galaxy S4 to Verizon Moto X (2014)?

I've had a rooted S4 since it came out last May, so over a year and a half, which I love, besides a few problems, and I was looking at the Moto X. I have read a bunch and I see that there is no root for the Verizon version. Has anyone made the switch from a rooted device that they loved to the unrooted Moto X? Curious if it is worth it or not as there are some Xposed modules I use quite a bit.

I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.

smelkus said:
I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.
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I appreciate you taking your time to write that up. I am almost 100% on buying it, but I just noticed the Droid Turbo. My real main reasons for not getting it already is the Non removable small battery and the camera. I have heard both sides of the fences with some saying they are fine, and some saying they are horrible. The Droid Turbo seems to have better camera and battery, but then again, I have heard both sides of the fences again, with people saying it isn't that much better, if even better at all. But the Moto X is so sexy compared to the Droid Turbo. The Non removable battery just really annoys me though. I go to a lot of conventions, and I like with the G4 having a spare battery to switch and instantly be at 100%.
I just can't wait until they come out with the PERFECT phone.......if that ever happens.....

Every time I'm at phone decision time I feel the same way. This one is too big. This one has an older chip... different resolution... AMOLED.... LCD... SD card on and on. I passed on the Turbo because I didn't like the back and old navigation bar icons. Spec-wise it is solid. This Moto X is my first non-removable battery and non-SD card phone. I got past the battery thing because I'm a working stiff. Most weeks I'm at the office then home. On weekends I use the turbo charger at home to give me the boost for the evening and I always have a couple of external battery packs for insurance and convenience. It is surprising how nice an external battery pack is even if you are just outside or somewhere away from a charger. Don't have to power down and get to keep on going. When I travel for work, I've noticed there are built in breaks where I can let my phone charge on a pack, e.g. airport security, checking out of hotels, catching rides, meeting suppliers at places, so I haven't found the battery to be an issue. We'll see how I feel about the SD card thing a year from now or so. I got the 32GB for $50 in hopes of at least making it manageable. The Moto X is a good looking phone though that is for sure.

I had the original Moto X (with unlocked bootloader), loved it. Then I got a new job that have me the S4 (which I rooted). Didn't really like it but still have it. Two weeks ago I had the opportunity to upgrade to the 2nd Gen Moto X, so now I'm carrying with me the S4 and new X (just to give some reference).
I liked the size of the old X, and wish I could have retained that. But I didn't want to get left behind by not upgrading. I do miss root, mainly for a few xposed modules like gravitybox, Moto tether, and exchange bypass. But since I have my work phone I can tether in a pinch (not frequently needed at all).
There are sacrifices to all changes. For me, owning the non-rootable 2nd Gen X was worth the tradeoffs. I think you would be happy with the transition if you don't mind sacrificing root (I'm hopeful a method will be released!). I like the feel of it more than the S4 (physical handling, plus the coolness factor of designing it), the speed (S4 just feels more bulky and stutters quite a bit more), and the Moto features. I've found the radios (esp wifi) better on the X. I have the 32GB and haven't run into a problem yet. Though I can't fairly compare batteries since I use the two for very different purposes throughout my day.
Good luck!

Thanks to both of you. I ordered a 32gb last night as well as the Turbo Charger. Can't wait! Hope it comes in fast.

About 4-5 days (including shipping)

NRGZ28 said:
About 4-5 days (including shipping)
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Did it say the box where its made/shipped from? I remember them making the first one in Texas.

Tried S6, thinking of returning it for Nexus 6

Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?

How do you figure that 805 is "outdated" or "one generation behind"? 805 is the CURRENT STATE OF THE ART and won't be passed until you start to see the 820 come to market. No, 810 is not a new generation, its just a stopgap to satisfy everybody too dumb to realize that 64bit doesn't do anything useful for a cellphone. Its actually a crappy chip that sucks up way too much power.
The 820 is *actually* the next generation of mobile chip, which improves performance and power consumption compared to the 805.

jonmike13 said:
Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?
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Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with good batterylife (user dependable) a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.

gee2012 said:
Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.
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This. You can't go wrong with most phones these days it just depends on what you want. Other than the camera, ignore the specs and ask yourself do you want a larger phone with pure android? Or do you want a smaller one with TouchWiz? Also, considering you're on Verizon, the S6 bootloader most likely won't be unlocked and root will be a challenge.
With that being said, I switched from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6. The Note screen and camera were much better than the Nexus 6, but I prefer stock Android and being able to unlock the bootloader and root. After waiting months hoping for someone to obtain root I finally gave up and switched and don't plan on going back.

I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.

im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6

jonmike13 said:
I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.
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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol

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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol
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Good bit of information to keep in mind. I did not know that.

dansan382 said:
im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6
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I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.

jonmike13 said:
I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.
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my battery life on my GS4 is not great at all, actually its pretty bad. Im running cm11 roms and this stuff is buggy as heck so thats not helping either. I wasn't impressed with the GS6 when I played with it in the verizon store, just didnt blow me away. plus i hate touchwiz.
I will be buying my nexus 6 from motorola, as I want white. I just really dont like that blue/purpleish tint to the MB version. I really wish they offered black but sadly that isn't happening. I'll probably just get a cool dbrand wrap as well.
for those who have ordered from motorola, from the time you placed the order how long did it take to arrive at your door? Im debating if I should mail it to my house or my job as I know they will need a signature and nobody will be home.

I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.

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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.
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The turbo charger is great. I only use it once in awhile most of the time I'm wireless charging. With my galaxy phones i ended up making it look and run like a nexus device as much as i could. My friend convinced me that i should just get the n6 and try it. So much nicer and easier when it comes to updates too. Definitely don't regret the n6. And I'm very pleased with 5.1
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Just to chime in, I also came from the Note 3. I was in a real pickle as I didn't want to have a phone without a sd card but root was more important as it's beginning to look you'll catch a unicorn before anything Samsung gets rooted on Verizon...:silly: Anyway, rooting this device was the easiest I've ever done and I just bought a Meenova adapter and still use my sd card with that when I need it. I look at it as you have to give to get, if you want root on Big Red you may have to give up something and what I gave up wasn't all that bad in the end for the freedom I now have. Just some thoughts from me.
P.S. - Plus I don't want to have to give up my signature....

Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.

theycallmerayj said:
Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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Obviously I cannot help with going from the N6 to the S6, but I will try to report back once I get the N6 and let you know how the two devices compare and if there was anything I preferred on the S6.

All I can say is, an an att retail employee, I still think the N6 is the best overall phone right now. Camera isn't terribly important to me, screen quality, screen size, battery life, and customization is what I look for and N6 wins in all 4 categories. The N6 still has a QHD screen and the size is great for gaming or netflix/YouTube. Just my two cents, I'm either going to get the m9 (half off purchase program for wireless employees with free upgrade every year... No contract) due to bootloader situation, purchase a N6 for my personal device or wait for one-plus-two. S6 is nice, but mostly hype, IMHO.

theycallmerayj said:
Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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I did for one week then went back to my N6. The S6 is very nice. The N6 is a much better software experience IF you favor stock android. That's what it came down to for me.

Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.

adl said:
Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.
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Go for it and don't look back! Now I am stuck paying a $35 restock fee on this S6, but I think it will be worth it.

Advice on Buying Nexus 6?

I'm basically wondering how the Nexus 6 is doing? Has the latest update to 5.1.1 worked well for people or does it feel old? Will it most likely keep getting updates through Android M too? My S6 Edge benchmarks amazingly but Touchwiz ultimately sucks even now that it's gone through a VERY cheap lipo surgery.
Constant redraws have made me resort to using Nova Launcher and the RAM management is atrocious, I'm actually in habit now to always open the multi-tasking pane and closing all apps whenever I go to open a new one (on an $850 phone!!)! And don't get me started with the damn backwards capacitive buttons ON THE BEZEL. I can't tell you how many times I accidentally pressed them while holding my phone sideways for games or even just taking pictures. Now I have to make sure to hold the phone awkwardly to not press them...
It's just frustrating not having your expensive phone's stock OS work well (HTC One M8 being a prime example of how to get stock right). I also absolutely love having Stock Android on my Nexus 9 so it'd be sweet having stock on both phone and tablet. My only worry would be if anyone knows if a newer big sized Nexus phone is around the corner or is the Nexus 6 still a legit phone and worth the pricetag?
Thanks in advance!

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I'm basically wondering how the Nexus 6 is doing? Has the latest update to 5.1.1 worked well for people or does it feel old?
My only worry would be if anyone knows if a newer big sized Nexus phone is around the corner or is the Nexus 6 still a legit phone and worth the pricetag?
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Because a smartphone is a personal choice it is not easy to answer your questions. I will tell you what I did with my N6.
1. Rooted and flashed Franco's kernel.
2. Disabled not used Google apps.
3. Used build.prop editor.
Switched to tablet mode by changing the value LCD density from 560 to 384. Font size to huge.
WiFi scan interval from 15 to 200.
4. When available using apps with a black background.
Result is better battery life. And I hardly use my PC anymore. My N7-tablet is no longer needed.

Nexus 6 will get M and who knows after that? Quite possibly the next version. Then when support stops, we'll still get AOSP with a bit of dev work involved.
Samsung RAM management has always been bad. My S3 was terrible at it. They just cant get it right.
Stock = Whatever the phone comes with, so for the first part I assume you are referring to Touchwiz and Sense as Stock on those phones, but by the second part of your post when you say stock, it seems like you really meant Vanilla / Pure Android?

One of the reasons to buy a Google phone is that it is likely to be well-supported both by Google and by the community.
My last phone was a Galaxy S4. It was a very nice phone but I hated TouchWiz and Knox so I jumped ship and I've been very happy with my N6. As long as you are happy with a huge phone, you certainly don't need to worry about support.

Long time Samsung user (prev phone was S3). I looked long and hard at getting an S6, but too many disgruntled users (RAM, battery, and locked bootloader - although Rooting was achieved).
Looked at M9 and LG3 too. Hadn't really considered Nexus 6. Then after reading reviews and user comments, I bought an unlocked 64GB version for $549 ($150 off) on Amazon. Rooted it withing 30 minutes and had AT&T put a SIM in it.
Really happy so far (1 week in). Great battery life, fast, and no AT&T or Samsung bloat.
Also - I was off contract with AT&T, so I have 30 days with Amazon to return it if I want to.

I'm sort of in the same boat. I have about a month to decide if I want to go with this phone, the G4, or something else. Currently on an iPhone and while I like it, I miss Android. My first Android phone was the OG Droid from Motorola, so I'm leaning heavily to the Nexus.
While I'd love to get the 64GB version, it's just not in the cards at the moment to pay full price (just bought my wife a new road bike, and we're trying to save for a move), so I'll be using one of the 2 year upgrades on my AT&T account when it comes up next month.

Would you still buy the Turbo?

I'm honestly just curious as to how many of us would still buy the Turbo way back when if we knew Lollipop wouldn't be out until July and it wouldn't be getting the root we were all used to. I personally would have bought a Nexus 6 from the start seeing as I jumped ship to the Nexus a few days ago and I'm currently loving it and looking to sell my Turbo.

Honestly I would not have. Don't get me wrong I like the turbo, but I think if I had known it would take this long to get lollipop, I would have waited to get a verizon nexus 6/bought an unlocked one before it officially came out.

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Honestly I would not have. Don't get me wrong I like the turbo, but I think if I had known it would take this long to get lollipop, I would have waited to get a verizon nexus 6/bought an unlocked one before it officially came out.
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I just bought a turbo last week. I was using a Nexus 5 but mainly switched because of the battery life. I was very underwhelmed by lollipop on my Nexus 5, it made the battery life even worse so I ended up downgrading my Nexus to 4.4.4 SlimKat because I would get close to 50% more battery life that way. I don't get the hype lollipop gets on Turbo forums, maybe its just a grass is greener situation. And hey, maybe it will be amazing on the Turbo but I kind of doubt it.

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I just bought a turbo last week. I was using a Nexus 5 but mainly switched because of the battery life. I was very underwhelmed by lollipop on my Nexus 5, it made the battery life even worse so I ended up downgrading my Nexus to 4.4.4 SlimKat because I would get close to 50% more battery life that way. I don't get the hype lollipop gets on Turbo forums, maybe its just a grass is greener situation. And hey, maybe it will be amazing on the Turbo but I kind of doubt it.
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For me, going to the Nexus wasn't just about Lollipop. I love the unlocked bootloader and easy (and free!) root. Although I must say I really do prefer Lollipop to KitKat.

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For me, going to the Nexus wasn't just about Lollipop. I love the unlocked bootloader and easy (and free!) root. Although I must say I really do prefer Lollipop to KitKat.
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This as well. Prior to purchasing the turbo, I had a CM12 rom running on my bootloader unlocked Moto X 2013, and I loved it, but I wanted something a little more powerful. It surprises me how much smoother lollipop is on that old hardware than kitkat is on the monster that is the droid turbo. This is the main reason I can't wait for lollipop to be released for the turbo.

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This as well. Prior to purchasing the turbo, I had a CM12 rom running on my bootloader unlocked Moto X 2013, and I loved it, but I wanted something a little more powerful. It surprises me how much smoother lollipop is on that old hardware than kitkat is on the monster that is the droid turbo. This is the main reason I can't wait for lollipop to be released for the turbo.
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Agreed, Lollipop on the Nexus 6 feels much faster than KK on the Turbo. It'll probably be pretty great on the Turbo, ridiculously fast. I'm still keeping the Nexus though I do love the extra screen.

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For me, going to the Nexus wasn't just about Lollipop. I love the unlocked bootloader and easy (and free!) root. Although I must say I really do prefer Lollipop to KitKat.
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I know part of my problem just was the fact my Nexus 5 was on Sprint. But once I loaded lollipop I started having issues with MMS and calling dropping, which downgrading to 4.4.4 didn't really fix. I used to be big on messing with my phone, which is part of the reason I got the Nexus 5 to begin with, but lately I haven't done much like that anymore so the locked bootloader doesn't bother me so much anymore. I've turned into more of a battery freak and having to carry a battery charger in my pocket along with my Nexus was getting old.
Honestly though I am very surprised carriers haven't started selling an unlocked bootloader and rooted version of their flagship phones and just charging more for them.

I don't get all the people saying lollipop made their battery worse or made their device lag horribly - every device I have ran lollipop on has been better battery and smooth as butter. Don't know what I'm doing different.
But to the topic - no - if I had known how long I would have to wait and that the only stable root would be a crippled half root that requires a PC and paying more than my monthly water bill just to get - I would never have touched the turbo.

No, but not because of lollipop. Right after I bought my Turbo, Verizon released the Nexus 6. I would have much rather had the Nexus. I do love my Turbo though. Especially now that I've rooted it.
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Yes, it is still the most "complete" 5~ inch cell phone on the market, for my purposes. I don't use the camera very much. Otherwise, it's fast, robust, and has stamina to get me through a work day or more. The only thing that would make it better, for me, would be a 5 inch screen without buttons, and the same battery. Basically, a Moto X with a bigger battery and more power. In less than a week, I expect it to be running Lollipop. But, frankly, Lollipop is not feature rich enough to make a huge difference in actual use.

At this point I would prefer to have the G4 mainly because the specs are about the same and the aftermarket support for the device is much greater than ours. Even if we got the bootloader unlocked right now, there would be a limited number of developers for our phone because it doesn't have as much of a userbase.

If the "I love that 3900mAh battery" portion was not there, I would have chosen the reconsideration one.

Just bought a Turbo for my wife over the weekend. She's the last person to care about which OS version a phone runs on but will benefit from the great battery life and moto features.

I would still buy it. It is stable for me, and has great battery life.
Am looking forward to Lollipop, but that isn't a big deal to me. I have it on 4 other devices, and simply don't see what the fuss/excitement is about.
Also wish it had a better camera, but it is good enough.

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At this point I would prefer to have the G4 mainly because the specs are about the same and the aftermarket support for the device is much greater than ours. Even if we got the bootloader unlocked right now, there would be a limited number of developers for our phone because it doesn't have as much of a userbase.
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Another reason I bought the Nexus.. There's so many more options to play with and ROMs to try out.

I would not have gotten it. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6. I like the extra screen space. I could live with a smaller battery.
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mobrules777 said:
I would not have gotten it. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6. I like the extra screen space. I could live with a smaller battery.
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If youre willing to wait a little, spend some time hunting around on Craigslist, eBay, or Swappa. I got a Nexus for a ridiculously good price by waiting for a great deal to pop up.

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I would not have gotten it. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6. I like the extra screen space. I could live with a smaller battery.
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Had the N6 BE AVAILABLE ON VZW I WOULD HAVE GONE WITH THAT OVER MY TURBO.. LOVE THE TURBO BUT ITS JUST BEEN A HEADACHE IN TERMS OF THE LOLLIPOP UPDATE IT SHOULD HAVE CAME WITH..SMH.. WAY TO FUMBLE VZW

I didn't buy and i wouldn't buy it today just because of the bootloader lock and verizon bloatware inside it.

Best phone I have ever owned, love all the features, performance, and battery. I would defiantly buy this phone again. Even had I known it would STILL not have an unlocked bootloader, it's just so damn good I can look past that.