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[Q] recovery for 4.4.3

Hi guys
i am on 4.4.3 in moto x and i received 4.4.4 for ota but i cant update because i unlocked bootloader and twrp in recovery,
how do i install 4.4.3,
i think install a recovery stock but i did not find recovery stock for 4.4.3 only for 4.4.2
or reinstall all stock for 4.4.2 make it downgrade.
what do you think?

You can likely find 4.4.3 firmware or even 4.4.4 and flash it manually from the links here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2923347
If you downgrade you could brick. If you successfully downgrade and take an OTA, you will definitely brick.
So not a wise choice. ?
Also, questions go in the Q&A section. For future reference. I'll ask this be moved. ?
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This guide has sections for many tasks, including flashing firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
If you use the fastboot method, you could likely just flash your stock recovery once you get the proper firmware, and if you need to, mfastboot can flash the system image. Should be good for OTA then.
But again, if you find the 4.4.4 firmware for your model... Flashing it fresh manually is always my preference. ?

sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??

htc-desire5 said:
sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??
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If you find the proper 4.4.4 for your device, that's how I personally prefer to do it.
Be aware it'll wipe your device with RSD though. Apps, pics, music, whatever... Gone . So you can move anything you want to keep to your PC.
Using the fastboot /mfastboot method will not wipe your stuff. Pics, music and everything. As long as you don't erase or flash userdata. Apps still gone though.
Your choice. See the guide I linked for instructions.
Good luck!
And once on 4.4.4...you can not ever downgrade.

thanks, i didnt find 4.4.4 for mi device only 4.4.3 the same like i use today,
i can use rds for flash the 4.4.3 and wait for ota without any problems?

I'm pretty sure only the XT1053 aka TMobile/Developer Edition has a 4.4.3 firmware. Everyone else went from.4.4.2 straight to 4.4.4.
You can confirm by checking About and looking at firmware version it should end with Retail.en.US
If you just need the 4.4.3 recovery to flash and upgrade you can find it in the 4.4.4 OTA thread here under Reminders: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/xt1053-4-4-4-ota-update-zip-t2885484
If you want the 4.4.4 firmware you can find it in this discussion second post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

Yup ?
Same warning, RSD will erase everything on your phone. It will be as it was the day you bought it.

thanks
@dtg7 a screenshoot
mi device has Retail.en.US.
so if i understand, i can put directly 4.4.4 from this post??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

If you are T-Mobile, yup.
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Not another carrier.

really not, im from mexico and use telmex but really i dont why t-mobile.

I would wait for your firmware, unless someone confirms T-Mobile will work for you. If your radio doesn't work, or anything else, you'll be stuck on T-Mobile 4.4.4 and won't be able to then flash your stock 4.4.3 anymore.
Patience. You aren't really missing out on anything. ?

@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3

htc-desire5 said:
@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3
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You're bootloader is definitely unlocked? Then yes, rooting is easy on 4.4.4.
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wonder, thanks for everything @Darth
a moderator close that thread, my question was solved.

System Files?

Greetings;
I just received my Moto X 1097 Canadian Variant and was
wondering if there are any files that I can get from a virgin
device before I attempt to root & etc.?
Or backup files that one day I might need to bring back my
device to life from Bricked status?!!
Thank you.

As long as you can get your hands on factory images, I wouldn't worry too much about system files. Otherwise, you should be able to find ways to make a system image; however that might require root or custom recovery.

korockinout13 said:
As long as you can get your hands on factory images, I wouldn't worry too much about system files. Otherwise, you should be able to find ways to make a system image; however that might require root or custom recovery.
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Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right? If that is the case, can I just ignore the OTA? And stay on KK?
Thank you.

samteeee said:
Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right? If that is the case, can I just ignore the OTA? And stay on KK?
Thank you.
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Without factory images or a full backup, there is no way back. However, it is safe to downgrade as long as you don't try to downgrade the bootloader or partition table. You can ignore the OTA, but it will probably be annoying. You might as well upgrade.

samteeee said:
Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
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I have a thread on this in the General forum. If you update to lollipop using Motorola Device Manager, you will have a copy of fastboot flashable Lollipop files on your computer. Search for my post on General.
If you want the fastboot flashable Kit Kat files, you can request them from Motorola. If they won't give them to you, then you can search to see if anyone has copies of them. This is for Telus right? You also can specifically ask if anyone has them, they may.
The other thing you can do is after you unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP recovery, is to make a nandroid of your stock system on kit kat and save it on your computer. Then flash back to stock recovery and upgrade to lollipop using MDM. Then flash TWRP recovery again and make a nandroid of stock lollipop, save it to your computer, then root.
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samteeee said:
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right?
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First off are you sure your device shipped with kitkat? Double check on that.
Once you upgrade to lollipop, you cannot downgrade the bootloader or the partition table back to kit kat, but you should be able to downgrade the kernel and the system back to kit kat w/o any issues. Idk about trying to downgrade the radios.

JulesJam said:
I have a thread on this in the General forum. If you update to lollipop using Motorola Device Manager, you will have a copy of fastboot flashable Lollipop files on your computer. Search for my post on General.
If you want the fastboot flashable Kit Kat files, you can request them from Motorola. If they won't give them to you, then you can search to see if anyone has copies of them. This is for Telus right? You also can specifically ask if anyone has them, they may.
The other thing you can do is after you unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP recovery, is to make a nandroid of your stock system on kit kat and save it on your computer. Then flash back to stock recovery and upgrade to lollipop using MDM. Then flash TWRP recovery again and make a nandroid of stock lollipop, save it to your computer, then root.
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First off are you sure your device shipped with kitkat? Double check on that.
Once you upgrade to lollipop, you cannot downgrade the bootloader or the partition table back to kit kat, but you should be able to downgrade the kernel and the system back to kit kat w/o any issues. Idk about trying to downgrade the radios.
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Thank you for your reply.
I just turned it on for the very first time! And I can confirm that it is on KK.
I like your solutions and will email Motorola tonight for the KK files. I will however upgrade to Lollipop via MDM so that I do have a copy of the "Fastboot Flashable Lollipop files".
Any suggestion on Rooting method? Also to copy the Nandroid to Pc, do I pull it with ADB? or just copy them from internal storage? And lastly I think once I upgrade, doesn't make sense to downgrade with so many complications, eh?
Thank you again.

korockinout13 said:
Without factory images or a full backup, there is no way back. However, it is safe to downgrade as long as you don't try to downgrade the bootloader or partition table. You can ignore the OTA, but it will probably be annoying. You might as well upgrade.
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Thanks bro.

Is your phone Telus or Wind mobile?
The original kitkat files for both can be downloaded no problem.
The 5.0.1 lollipop image for Telus can also be downloaded.
You can safely downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat as long as you unlock your bootloader.

Steve-x said:
Is your phone Telus or Wind mobile?
The original kitkat files for both can be downloaded no problem.
The 5.0.1 lollipop image for Telus can also be downloaded.
You can safely downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat as long as you unlock your bootloader.
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Hi
My phone is Telus Mobility.
Are the files on Motorola site?
Thank you.

[Q] [XT1053] How to get 5.1 back. Already updated once to 5.1

Hello,
Please help me get any OS back to my XT1053 for now. Here's what happened:
1) I unlocked the bootloader, rooted my XT1053, stock recovery. Then last week I tried updating it to 5.1 official version via OTA. It failed due to files mismatch (maybe due to using apps that need root like Adaway). So I downloaded 4.4.4 STOCK version from Moto website, flashed boot.img, system.img and followed all the steps given here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
Once the phone booted properly into 4.4.4, I tried 5.1 OTA and it worked fine. Then I flashed TWRP and SU to get root (I lost root when I flashed STOCK 4.4.4).
2) Everything was fine except that whenever I rebooted, my phone would Optimize ALL the apps. I Googled a lot and apparently this happened to many folks and there was no solution.
3) Today, I thought I will try and fix it by sideloading the 5.1 OTA zip (I thought the regular OTA style installation that I did of 5.1 over mfastboot style installation of 4.4.4 had something to do with it. I know, this was stupid of me!)
4) So, today I went to TWRP and tried to flash 'Blur_Version.213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US.zip'. I am 100% certain that this was the file that I copied from /cache after OTA had downloaded the file last week and I had saved it locally on PC and in SD on phone. However, this flashing gave me an error saying that it expected either 4.4.4 KXA or 5.1 but that my system was 4.4?? So the flashing failed and my OS is gone. How can I get ANY OS back? Here are the things that I tried so far:
1) Installed RSD Lite and I am downloading XT1053_TMO_RETAIL-US_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.29.1_2_cid9_CFC_1FF.xml.zip file from http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100&page=1 as I type this out now. HOWEVER, I think I shouldn't use it as I read KidJoe saying not to downgrade. (KidJoe's comments are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347)
2) THEREFORE, I was wondering if I could simply flash a higher or equivalent version of ROM. Since we don't have an official 5.1 flashable zip right now, can I use 5.1.1 by CM? It's present here: http://primehowto.com/install-andro...le-moto-x-xt1053-2013-via-cm12-1-nightly-rom/
3) If yes to point# 2 above, I have a small problem. My phone is not detected by 'adb devices; in TWRP recovery mode. My battery is 11%. Could that be the issue?
I KNOW THIS WAS A LONG POST. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE ALL THE INFO. PLEASE HELP ME GET ANY OS ONTO THE PHONE AND THEN I WILL WAIT FOR THE 5.1 SBF TO BE AVAILABLE. THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE....

here [Official] XT1058_GHOST_RETBR_5.1 FXZ/SBF (Full Rom)uploaded by our fellow user GARUXA
https://doc-10-ak-docs.googleuserco...359/*/0BwcadIv25aK8Tng3SUk2b1k5aVE?e=download
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...t1058ghostretbr5-1-fxz-sbf-rom-t3144161/page2

hbenz2008 said:
here [Official] XT1058_GHOST_RETBR_5.1 FXZ/SBF (Full Rom)uploaded by our fellow user GARUXA
https://doc-10-ak-docs.googleuserco...359/*/0BwcadIv25aK8Tng3SUk2b1k5aVE?e=download
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...t1058ghostretbr5-1-fxz-sbf-rom-t3144161/page2
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Thanks for quick response. But I have XT1053.. Can I still use the one that you gave?

Not recommended, hold on a bit. try to flash only gpt and mboot from your 5.1 update?

hbenz2008 said:
Not recommended, hold on a bit. Did try to flash only gpt and mboot from your 5.1 update?
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No, I didn't try mfastboot of 'gpt' from 5.1 update file 'Blur_Version.213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US.zip'. I don't see an 'mboot' or 'boot' file in it though. I do see 'gpt'. Also, in fastboot mode it says "Charger connected" instead of "USB connected". I think that's due to the low battery too?

hbenz2008 said:
Not recommended, hold on a bit. try to flash only gpt and mboot from your 5.1 update?
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Would you know if 'Blur_Version.213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US.zip' file is the OTA 5.1 file? I think that's how the naming convention goes i.e. the name is set to the system version on which it is going to be updated NOT the system version that it will be updated to. I don't know why this flash failed though. I can give you the exact error that I get when I try flashing this if that helps? Thanks!

Shoot the error. If it's security downgrade, again flash gpt and mboot from Ota 5.1.
I will have to verify the name of Ota as its critical info.

hbenz2008 said:
Not recommended, hold on a bit. try to flash only gpt and mboot from your 5.1 update?
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When I tried flashing "Blur_Version.213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US.zip" file (which I still think is the OTA 5.1 zip), I get this error:
Package expects build fingerprint of mototola/ghost_retail/ghost:4.4.4/KXA21.12-L1.29.1/2:user/release-keys or motorola/ghost_retail/ghost:5.1/LPA23.12-15/15:user/release-keys; this device has motorola/ghost_retail/ghost:4.4/13.11.1Q2.X-69-3/51:user/release-keys
This is where I got burned today. The above error wiped out my OS. I was on 5.1, I don't know why it says I have 4.4....

Prolly system mismatch, try only gpt and mboot. What error do u get?
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BTW your post provided good info. So Ota think u on 4.4.
You flashed only syst and boot to get on 4.4 ,could be where the prob is.
Need to know where img/rom info reside.
Double check the 4.4 files you flashed.
Just thinking out loud..

hbenz2008 said:
Prolly system mismatch, try only gpt and mboot. What error do u get?
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BTW your post provided good info. So Ota think u on 4.4.
You flashed only syst and boot to get on 4.4 ,could be where the prob is.
Need to know where img/rom info reside.
Double check the 4.4 files you flashed.
Just thinking out loud..
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What's 'mboot'. There's no such file in the extracted folder of 'blur.....' file that I mentioned earlier. there is 'gpt'. My phone is detected via fastboot now so I can flash but don't know where the 'mboot' is

Hitdroid said:
What's 'mboot'. There's no such file in the extracted folder of 'blur.....' file that I mentioned earlier. there is 'gpt'. My phone is detected via fastboot now so I can flash but don't know where the 'mboot' is
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Okay, so I fixed it. At least got an OS for now .. This is what I did.. I took a chance and went ahead with these steps:
1) Extracted files from Stock TMO 4.4.4 file 'TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.4_213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US_MR4_CFC.tgz' got from Moto website.
2) Modified 'flash.bat' file to have below commands:
SET mfastboot=mfastboot.exe
%mfastboot% getvar max-download-size
%mfastboot% oem fb_mode_set
%mfastboot% flash partition gpt.bin
%mfastboot% flash motoboot motoboot.img
%mfastboot% reboot-bootloader
%mfastboot% flash logo logo.bin
%mfastboot% flash boot boot.img
%mfastboot% flash recovery recovery.img
%mfastboot% flash system system.img
%mfastboot% flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
%mfastboot% erase modemst1
%mfastboot% erase modemst2
%mfastboot% flash fsg fsg.mbn
%mfastboot% erase cache
%mfastboot% reboot
3) It failed with 'partition', 'motoboot', 'logo'. Everything else was successful.
4) My phone booted into 4.4.4 now.
It's funny but I think I have successfully downgraded from 5.1 to 4.4.4... That means, my main system file was never upgraded to 5.1?? It's late and I want a phone for tomorrow so I won't try 5.1 tonight. But it would be great if experts could pitch in. How did I downgrade from 5.1 to 4.4.4?
Anyway, thanks for your help. Your comment about 'gpt' made me think "maybe my phone won't hard brick if I install 4.4.4 again".. and it didn't!
CHEERS!

You can downgrade Fri 5.1 to 4.4 without flashing gpt and mboot. Wait for full 5.1.
Excellent man. Check your bootloader version, it's probably lollipop. So don't take update yet.

I thought we couldn't downgrade without bricking? Anyway, I am getting notification to update to 5.1 via OTA. I'm ignoring until I understand what's happening. So, pls tell me what are the things that I need to check the versions of? Attached is a screenshot from 'About Phone'. How do I check bootloader version? Thanks man..
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app

to check bootloader BL, restart phone in fastboot read menu.
KidJoe got this better covered here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
Hitdroid said:
I thought we couldn't downgrade without bricking? Anyway, I am getting notification to update to 5.1 via OTA. I'm ignoring until I understand what's happening. So, pls tell me what are the things that I need to check the versions of? Attached is a screenshot from 'About Phone'. How do I check bootloader version? Thanks man..
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app
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Hitdroid said:
I thought we couldn't downgrade without bricking? Anyway, I am getting notification to update to 5.1 via OTA. I'm ignoring until I understand what's happening. So, pls tell me what are the things that I need to check the versions of? Attached is a screenshot from 'About Phone'. How do I check bootloader version? Thanks man..
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app
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Many try to skip GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG... but when you have a version missmatch (gpt/motoboot from one rom, and rest from another), you increase your chance of bricking should you apply an OTA update zip in the future. And you'll likely end up with features not working or extra "bugs" that wouldn't otherwise appear.
For those who say "its safe to downgrade"... I'll point you to -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 and ask you to view the 7 links near the end of the first post as just a few examples.

Hey KidJoe, I could really use your help. I didn't want to downgrade but I had no choice as I couldn't re-install 5.1 (hence created this thread). It's good that I didn't brick when I reverted to 4.4.4 from 5.1 but I am skeptical of taking the 5.1 OTA now.
Pls look at the screen shot that I attached in my previous post. Also, my BL version is 30.BE (sha-34b7ccb, 2015-04-22 12:57:17). I have Stock Recovery KXA21.12-L1.29.1
How can I get a perfect installation of 5.1.. By perfect I mean none of the files left behind in the old version.
Appreciate your help!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app

Hitdroid said:
Hey KidJoe, I could really use your help. I didn't want to downgrade but I had no choice as I couldn't re-install 5.1 (hence created this thread). It's good that I didn't brick when I reverted to 4.4.4 from 5.1 but I am skeptical of taking the 5.1 OTA now.
Pls look at the screen shot that I attached in my previous post. Also, my BL version is 30.BE (sha-34b7ccb, 2015-04-22 12:57:17). I have Stock Recovery KXA21.12-L1.29.1
How can I get a perfect installation of 5.1.. By perfect I mean none of the files left behind in the old version.
Appreciate your help!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app
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Hitdroid, do you mind sharing your 5.1 OTA file for xt1053.
I'm in the same situation as you. Got 5.1 OTA a few weeks ago, rooted it and installed TWRP. Then I accidentally installed my 4.4.4 backup which erased my 5.1 install.
I just installed CM 5.1 as a stopgap but i'd like to return to near stock so i'm following this thread.

as I thought, you have a 5.1 BL.
Gotta flash manually when sbf/ROM is available

Hitdroid said:
Hey KidJoe, I could really use your help. I didn't want to downgrade but I had no choice as I couldn't re-install 5.1 (hence created this thread). It's good that I didn't brick when I reverted to 4.4.4 from 5.1 but I am skeptical of taking the 5.1 OTA now.
Pls look at the screen shot that I attached in my previous post. Also, my BL version is 30.BE (sha-34b7ccb, 2015-04-22 12:57:17). I have Stock Recovery KXA21.12-L1.29.1
How can I get a perfect installation of 5.1.. By perfect I mean none of the files left behind in the old version.
Appreciate your help!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app
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Because of your bootloader, the safest way is wait for the 5.1 SBF to be posted (since you have an XT1053, it will be posted on Moto's web site, and you don't have to rely on leaks)... But I have no idea how long that will take.
Now, you could try to take the OTA, but I've seen enough bricks to say.. If it was my phone... I'd wait.

I'm at work so will share the file once I go home. But I think we should wait for 5.1 SBF as @KidJoe and @hbenz2008 have stated.
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Help! How to downgrade from marshmallow ( nexus experience rom) to lollipop (stock ro

Can anyone pls tel how do i downgrade from marshmallow 6.0.1 to lollipop 5.0.2?
Currently my bootloader version is 48.83. I dnt remember what it was on lollipop. Pls help!

Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.

spetrie said:
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
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I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.

If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.

Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.

gauravrai said:
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
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I have made a nandroid backup. Currently m on nexus experience rom. One of my friend was in resurrection remix (marshmallow) he faced some bugs so he came back to lollipop. It worked fine for him. But when he tried to flash the soak test ota, he hard bricked his phone... Why did that happen??

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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Currently my bootloader versuon is 48.83
What is the version on lollipop? Bootloader dsnt change on flashing roms ryt?

sumedhs said:
I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
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All I can say is that I was on Nexus Experience 10.0.4 (Marshmallow) but could not get adopted storage to work so restored my previous AOSP lollipop ROM from TWRP backup and no issues. My Bootloader is 48.82. I have never used the soak test version or OTA version of marshmallow.
I have also in the past restored stock lollipop V5.0.2 from other lollipop versions with no issues.

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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which files or command to skip in this process

if u use L ROM then this one is the latest or last update of L ROM and i have used many days.........and its good.....its CM based LINK or If u like a pure Stock L ROM with Optimized then here it goes LINK

ezio1723 said:
which files or command to skip in this process
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Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them

rebzin said:
Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
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you can use easyinstaller file it will automatically flashes the files

My bootloader is 0×4887 I am running a stock mm and I wud like to downgrade to lollipop to use the stellar kernel way shud I do...???pls help
Just a noobie....
Sry if tat was bad English..!!

Just don't downgrade your Bootloader and you should be fine, if you're using an easyinstaller script to flash stock Lollipop make sure and remove the lines of code that flash motoboot.img & I'd also recommend removing the line that flashes gpt.bin to be safe.

Latest Bootloader - Can I Install Lollipop or KitKat Roms?

Hello
I have a moto g titan xt1068 dual sim which was originally running stock lollipop 5.02 and was updated with the OTA stagefright update and then the OTA MM6.0 official by motorola.
I have since installed custom roms cyanogen 13.0 and cyanpop 6.2
I know my bootloader is now the latest, so my question is can I now only install MM based roms? or can I still install KK & LP based custom roms?
or will installing LP or KK based roms hard brick my device?
Many thanks for any help

i'd like to know it too...

I'm not sure, but I can't really see why not. The bootloader being the latest changes jack squat on the question of being able to install older versions of Android or not. I mean, I WAS able to install the stock LP ROM on the MM bootloader, but your mileage may vary.

Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.

sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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ooh yeah, i remember i installed the MM Stock, and after installed the KK Stock, and with KK made a OTA update to LP and bricked my phone :/

sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.

zman01 said:
That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)

h4ck3r00 said:
What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)
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You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL

zman01 said:
You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL
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So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:

h4ck3r00 said:
So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:
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That's right.. You can touch your bootloader only when you have to upgrade it, for example in case of updating to Android N. Which I think will never happen (of course officially).
Here you can find a nice guide to downgrade your Android version.

zman01 said:
That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.

sagar846 said:
FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.
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Yeah sorry, I was a bit tired.

Thank you all for your help it is much appreciated.