Hello!
I'm currently stationed in Singapore and bought a Moto X about a month or so ago from eBay. While I am anxiously waiting for my Moto X to receive the 4.4 update, I realised that the system version (after the previous camera update) is 139.12.35.ghost_row.AmericaMovil.en.PR, which I found to be a Latin America version after some searching on the forums and Googling here and there.
I also found this thread, where OP said that they can be flashed over to either the T-Mobile version. Does this continue to work for the 4.4 updates by T-Mobile or AT&T, and would there be anything else required for flashing? (I saw something about flashing new radios and all, but was quite confused by contradicting explanations and suggestions :/)
Thanks in advance!
// EDIT:
To add on after a bit of searching, I realised that I am allowed to unlock my bootloader, despite claims from the original retailer on eBay that the phone came from AT&T (which is notorious, even here, for their stance on bootloader unlocking). What gives?
I got the same Moto X from a buddy yesterday. I did a lot of searching and also discovered the thread about the phone being flashed to t- mobile.
I fooled the steps on another thread titled " Return to stock 100%" out something like that...
I downloaded the correct Att firmware and with the use of RSDLite, I successfully flashed my Moto X to ATT.... it took less than 10 minutes. And as soon as it booted up, I got hit with the "update available" message ( kit Kat)
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Thanks for the information!
I've successfully upgraded my phone to the Verizon version (minus all the bloatware that I hastily blasted off), with root and TWRP. So this is what I did, for future reference:
It seems that AmericaMovil versions are not bound by the AT&T's locked bootloader policies, and other Latin America versions are probably free from the restriction too. So I managed to get my hands on the Motorola Fastboot and unlocked my bootloader. TWRP was installed (remember to use 2.6.3.1 and above for 4.4 support), and then flashed the Verizon system dump available here. Root was installed by TWRP.
After getting on the device and setting things up, I rebooted to recovery to remove lots of bloatware (available in /system/app and /system/priv-app). Had to remove some of them through Titanium Backup as the file names were not always indicative that it came from Verizon. I made the extra step of killing the god-awful boot animation that they had by replacing it with this.
And... that concludes my experience with this, I suppose.
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
alternetconcept said:
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
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I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
RagnaParadise said:
I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
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I believe the bootloader does have to be unlocked in order to flash a different firmware.
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RagnaParadise said:
I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
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Yeah after doing so more reading.. (at least the way I'm willing to do it) is to just unlock my bootloader and then using RSD Lite (Which i still have no idea what that is / where it is) flash an SBF found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php)
I guess following this video somewhat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0JHSAXJDI#t=15
Does that sound right?
Should I flash the TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-57_MR1_CFC.xml.zip
Or just jump straight to the 4.4 version TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4-13.11.1Q2.X-69-3_MR2_CFC.xml.zip
??
As far as I know, the use of RSD Lite doesn't require an unlocked bootloader (at least, that's what it shows in the video you showed me anyway), especially since these are images supposedly signed by Motorola themselves. Let me know if you've found something else?
As for your question on which to flash... I'm not sure, but you'd skip a lot of the hassle if you could flash 4.4 straight, so how about trying that?
RagnaParadise said:
As far as I know, the use of RSD Lite doesn't require an unlocked bootloader (at least, that's what it shows in the video you showed me anyway), especially since these are images supposedly signed by Motorola themselves. Let me know if you've found something else?
As for your question on which to flash... I'm not sure, but you'd skip a lot of the hassle if you could flash 4.4 straight, so how about trying that?
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Rsdlite is a shell for a flash boot flash supposedly with an XML doing all the steps together. Just makes it easier.
You need unlocked boot loader only to flash an image that doesn't match your current boot loader. So if you have a. At&t phone you can only flash at&t images by rsdlite. But if you unlock your amerimovil phone you can flash any xt1058 image I think. So amerimovil could take say a rogers or at&t or telcel image. Not sure if T-Mobile image will work on a full rsdlite flash as it is an xt1053 image. I think you can flash most of a T-Mobile image by twrp but not by rsdlite not sure
sleepyguy007 said:
Rsdlite is a shell for a flash boot flash supposedly with an XML doing all the steps together. Just makes it easier.
You need unlocked boot loader only to flash an image that doesn't match your current boot loader. So if you have a. At&t phone you can only flash at&t images by rsdlite. But if you unlock your amerimovil phone you can flash any xt1058 image I think. So amerimovil could take say a rogers or at&t or telcel image. Not sure if T-Mobile image will work on a full rsdlite flash as it is an xt1053 image. I think you can flash most of a T-Mobile image by twrp but not by rsdlite not sure
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So if I flash the at&t image found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php), would it come pre-loaded with all the bloatware AT&T has even though I'm not using AT&T network?
alternetconcept said:
So if I flash the at&t image found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php), would it come pre-loaded with all the bloatware AT&T has even though I'm not using AT&T network?
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yes of course. think about it like if you took a dell windows 7 install CD , and put it on an HP. all the dell customizations would still be there.
obviously since you have unlocked bootloader, once you do the RSDlite you can always flash twrp, and superuser, and delete all that stuff. but then you wouldn't get updates again. i dont think the at&t image is really THAT bad. though i've heard the rogers one is better (though maybe not 4.4 yet)
sleepyguy007 said:
yes of course. think about it like if you took a dell windows 7 install CD , and put it on an HP. all the dell customizations would still be there.
obviously since you have unlocked bootloader, once you do the RSDlite you can always flash twrp, and superuser, and delete all that stuff. but then you wouldn't get updates again. i dont think the at&t image is really THAT bad. though i've heard the rogers one is better (though maybe not 4.4 yet)
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Yeah unfortunately that's what I thought. Hence why I would of liked to flash the t-mobile image but I'm going to hold off until someone that is a bit more adb savvy then myself tries it out. I wouldn't know what to do if I ended up soft bricking my phone
Well it didn't take long to try it out myself...
It worked out!
I used this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
I downloaded the Tmobile 4.4 Image and used RSD.
All you have to do is unlock your BL. (Note: I was completely bone stock with NO root and NO special recovery like CMW or TWRP)
Have all the proper drivers installed, enable USB debugging in developer settings on the phone
Go into Fastboot on the phone
Plug in the phone and just follow the video
I do not take any responsibitliy if you brick your phone. It is fairly easy process and took only a few mins.
Hope this helps!
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alternetconcept said:
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
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I've been doing some research on this since yesterday and I've been hesitant on doing it. I saw in your last post that you successfully flashed the TMO 4.4 ROM on your AmericaMovil phone, so I have a few questions for you before I go ahead and do the same:
1. Can you please confirm that your model is XT1058 and not XT1053?
2. Does the TMO ROM have the TMO boot logo and any TMO bloatware?
3. Does the TMO ROM have the Tethering & portable hotspot option under Settings > More?
4. Does the TMO ROM have the Mass Storage option under Settings > Storage > | > USB computer connection?
5. Have you been having any radio problems since you flashed the TMO ROM?
I wonder if I install the ROM in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180 using RSDLite, would I get the OTA update to 4.4? The reason I want to install this ROM is because it only flashes system and boot.img without flashing bootloader, modem, logo etc... and I know the XT1058 radio is different from the XT1053 radio, so I've been reluctant to flash a full XT1053 ROM on my XT1058 phone.
But what I also would like to know is if an OTA update would flash a full ROM or not. In other words, if I flash the ROM above and then OTA update to 4.4 and the OTA update flashes the full ROM including the radio, I might as well flash the full 4.4 immediately.
What do you or anyone else think?
I'll answer to the best of my ability. heh
mschumacher69 said:
1. Can you please confirm that your model is XT1058 and not XT1053?
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Mine was an XT1058, and has been flashed to XT1060. (I didn't notice that T-Mo had a 4.4 ROM on the list, so I went straight for the flashable ZIP for Verizon instead. silly me.)
mschumacher69 said:
2. Does the TMO ROM have the TMO boot logo and any TMO bloatware?
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At least according to this article, the TMO version shouldn't have any bloatware.
mschumacher69 said:
4. Does the TMO ROM have the Mass Storage option under Settings > Storage > | > USB computer connection?
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There's no reason why there shouldn't be; I'm seeing it on my Verizon version.
mschumacher69 said:
5. Have you been having any radio problems since you flashed the TMO ROM?
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I can't say for sure if you'll face any problems, but I flashed the T-Mo radio provided here with my Verizon ROM, and I had no problems connecting to my network in Singapore.
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I can't answer the rest unfortunately. Sorry. Hope I've helped.
RagnaParadise said:
I can't answer the rest unfortunately. Sorry. Hope I've helped.
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Thank you for your answers!
Regarding Mass Storage, the reason I'm asking is because I don't have it on my AmericaMovil ROM.
The ROM is basically exactly what you get when you buy the T-Mobile version.
I figured the radios are nearly identical from the AT&T version and the T-Mobile version so my XT1058 is running on the XT1053 radios. There is no bloatware. tethering is there but I'm not sure if t-mobile will allow it. There is NO tmobile logo that comes up on boot. USB connect to computer is there.
As for the radio section again.. I was getting only EDGE in my house before I switched to this ROM (Meaning when I was on the ORIGINAL XT1058 image) and I am still getting only EDGE in my house.. Unfortunately I haven't left my house since yesterday flashing the image but when I'll be back at work in NYC and should see '4G/LTE' over there.
We'll see.
alternetconcept said:
The ROM is basically exactly what you get when you buy the T-Mobile version.
I figured the radios are nearly identical from the AT&T version and the T-Mobile version so my XT1058 is running on the XT1053 radios. There is no bloatware. tethering is there but I'm not sure if t-mobile will allow it. There is NO tmobile logo that comes up on boot. USB connect to computer is there.
As for the radio section again.. I was getting only EDGE in my house before I switched to this ROM (Meaning when I was on the ORIGINAL XT1058 image) and I am still getting only EDGE in my house.. Unfortunately I haven't left my house since yesterday flashing the image but when I'll be back at work in NYC and should see '4G/LTE' over there.
We'll see.
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Thanks for ur reply! Which network are you on right now?
mschumacher69 said:
Thanks for ur reply! Which network are you on right now?
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I've always been on T-mobile network. Both when i was on original XT1058 AmericanMovil system version and still on T-mobile when I switched the image to XT1053.
Back on my Nexus 4 though.. I would have HSPA+ in my house.. So I thought it was a bit odd that as soon as I received this phone that I wasn't getting anything other than EDGE..
The other day I bought a nexus 6 used and didn't know what carrier it was from.. Well I dug around in the settings and found out that it was Verizon. The phone worked fine with my T-Mobile sim just like it should but when I tried flashing 5.1.1 Verizon build lmy48i it just would not flash right... It would just bootloop and nexus root toolkit said everything failed to flash but the bootloader. But I tried again after taking the sim out and it worked first try. Everything is okay, but why does a sim make so much of a difference? Should I be flashing T-Mobile img's?
dude_itsdevon1 said:
The other day I bought a nexus 6 used and didn't know what carrier it was from.. Well I dug around in the settings and found out that it was Verizon. The phone worked fine with my T-Mobile sim just like it should but when I tried flashing 5.1.1 Verizon build lmy48i it just would not flash right... It would just bootloop and nexus root toolkit said everything failed to flash but the bootloader. But I tried again after taking the sim out and it worked first try. Everything is okay, but why does a sim make so much of a difference? Should I be flashing T-Mobile img's?
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First, you shouldn't use toolkits unless you already know how to use fastboot.
Second, use fastboot and flash the latest T-Mobile factory image if you're using your device on T-Mobile.
Follow method #2 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Evolution_Tech said:
First, you shouldn't use toolkits unless you already know how to use fastboot.
Second, use fastboot and flash the latest T-Mobile factory image if you're using your device on T-Mobile.
Follow method #2 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
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Thanks for the super quick reply, I am familiar with fasboot and doing it manually but I'm lazy that's all. It just makes it so simple. thanks for letting me know which image to use. I just had to set up the apn settings to get my data to work right. Will I get otas if I flash the T-Mobile factory image and use their service?
dude_itsdevon1 said:
Thanks for the super quick reply, I am familiar with fasboot and doing it manually but I'm lazy that's all. It just makes it so simple. thanks for letting me know which image to use. I just had to set up the apn settings to get my data to work right. Will I get otas if I flash the T-Mobile factory image and use their service?
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As long as you're 100% stock and using a T-Mobile sim, you'll be able to get and install T-Mobile OTA's.
LMY48I is not a T-Mobile version. You want LYZ28E or LYZ28J.
I am new to flashing roms and recoveries so I need some advice
My Phone is a VZW LG G2 VS980 running version 12b
I rooted my phone and loaded CWM recovery but when I booted my phone it accepted the OTA and bricked the phone I used the advice to Un-Brick with recovery and adb connection from the comment by Herp_McDerp on this forum
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg2/comments/1skj1z/if_an_ota_was_available_would_it_brick_my_rooted/
after I booted back into the OS I decided to install TWRP recovery instead because I saw more support and wanted the additional features. I then attempted to flash a new rom from this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g2/development/rom-lollipop-extreme-v1-0-3-17-15-t3057558
I used the V1.1 but because my phone did not have the 39a bootstack and only the 12b my phone will not boot past the LG screen
This is where I’m stuck now my recovery is gone and I can only access the download mode I found a forum to go back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960
but with this rom my model # is different so the dll does not match and I’m assuming the tot file wouldn’t work either
the flash tool error states
PID: PT01S130827002020
IMEI: 990002590090617
Model: F350K
DLL: VS980
BIN: VS98011A_01.TOT
SWV: VS98012B_00
SWOV: VS98012_00
Device Phone or DLL!
00000000
The phone reads
USER S0.0 AS0.0 B100 UHS
S U LG-F350K O5.0.2 Hrev_10
Extreme v1.1 VS98039A
ROOTED
Does anyone know where I could find the files to flash with this new rom and model number or add the bootstack at least if it’s possible
Use lg flashtool 2014 to go back to 10b and start from scratch
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The issue is the model number of the device doesn't match any dll files that I have available.
The device now states that it is and LG F350K which is something I could not find anywhere but in the original post for the LP extreme Rom.
Thanks in advance for any information/guidance provided! Please bear w/ me, I am pretty new to all of this. I apologize for any incorrectly used terminology.
I have a Verizon Moto X 2014 (XT1096) that I have recently unlocked the bootloader and rooted via SuperSU and TWRP Recovery. When I opened SuperSU, I got an error message stating that I needed to update the binary, but it was unable to be done OTA. I used TWRP to sideload the binary zip file onto the phone's internal storage, which seemed to work fine.
Using the same method, I moved CM13 (01/14/16 nightly build) to the internal storage and followed the remaining steps in the process.
Jump ahead a few days (phone seems to be working great & am running on T-Mobile LTE perfectly) and now I have a few questions:
1. Is my phone for all intents and purposes, considered Pure Edition since I have unlocked BL and rooted the phone?
2. I can download nightly updates, but when I try to install them, the phone reboots/does not install the build.. How can I download and install the updates OTA?
3. Is it necessary for me to keep the TWRP recovery/backup zip file on my phone's internal storage? (wondering b/c phone is ony 16 gb and the backup used a large amount of available storage)
4. Is there any way for me to have stock Marshmallow on this phone instead of CM?
Thanks again and sorry for the likely horrible explanation.
Daniel
dwilso621 said:
Thanks in advance for any information/guidance provided! Please bear w/ me, I am pretty new to all of this. I apologize for any incorrectly used terminology.
I have a Verizon Moto X 2014 (XT1096) that I have recently unlocked the bootloader and rooted via SuperSU and TWRP Recovery. When I opened SuperSU, I got an error message stating that I needed to update the binary, but it was unable to be done OTA. I used TWRP to sideload the binary zip file onto the phone's internal storage, which seemed to work fine.
Using the same method, I moved CM13 (01/14/16 nightly build) to the internal storage and followed the remaining steps in the process.
Jump ahead a few days (phone seems to be working great & am running on T-Mobile LTE perfectly) and now I have a few questions:
1. Is my phone for all intents and purposes, considered Pure Edition since I have unlocked BL and rooted the phone?
2. I can download nightly updates, but when I try to install them, the phone reboots/does not install the build.. How can I download and install the updates OTA?
3. Is it necessary for me to keep the TWRP recovery/backup zip file on my phone's internal storage? (wondering b/c phone is ony 16 gb and the backup used a large amount of available storage)
4. Is there any way for me to have stock Marshmallow on this phone instead of CM?
Thanks again and sorry for the likely horrible explanation.
Daniel
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1) No, you don't have a pure edition. The xt1095 is the pure edition. Nothing to do with the bootloader being unlocked or rooted. The xt1095 is called the pure edition because it is the only model that does NOT lose warranty after you unlock the bootloader. You have the xt1096, so when you unlocked it you voided the warranty.
2) The CM updates should work fine. Does it give an error?
3) What zip file are you talking about? Do you mean a backup of your system?
4) If you use verizon's service, no. If you use any other service such as tmobile or any other gsm company yes. If you don't use verizon service, you can flash the xt1095 marshmallow firmware. It will work 99%, the only thing that won't work is verizon service because verizon is CDMA.
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2) No, it doesn't give an error. It shows a pop up message saying the phone will reboot into recovery mode to install the update. Note: this feature requires a compatible Recovery or the updates will need to be installed manually.
3) Where would I download the img apk for Android 6.0?
Thanks again!
AGISCI said:
1) No, you don't have a pure edition. The xt1095 is the pure edition. Nothing to do with the bootloader being unlocked or rooted. The xt1095 is called the pure edition because it is the only model that does NOT lose warranty after you unlock the bootloader. You have the xt1096, so when you unlocked it you voided the warranty.
2) The CM updates should work fine. Does it give an error?
3) What zip file are you talking about? Do you mean a backup of your system?
4) If you use verizon's service, no. If you use any other service such as tmobile or any other gsm company yes. If you don't use verizon service, you can flash the xt1095 marshmallow firmware. It will work 99%, the only thing that won't work is verizon service because verizon is CDMA.
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2) No, it doesn't give an error. It shows a pop up message saying the phone will reboot into recovery mode to install the update. Note: this feature requires a compatible Recovery or the updates will need to be installed manually.
3) Yes, I was referring to the system backup zip file
4) Where would I download the img file for stock Android 6.0? I'm using it on T-Mobile, not Verizon.
Thanks again!
I have lg vs980 Verizon model, running on stock kit Kitkat rooted no recovery installed, I want to upgrade stock lollipop using kdz file I get one lollipop kdz file should I use it since I already have once bricked my device while installing cloudy g2 I want to upgrade without bricking my device
Just follow guide on the forum. Was exactly in the same boat few months back. Pick a ROM for vs980 and you are good to go
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I have lg vs980 Verizon model, running on stock kit Kitkat rooted no recovery installed, I want to upgrade stock lollipop using kdz file I get one lollipop kdz file should I use it since I already have once bricked my device while installing cloudy g2 I want to upgrade without bricking my device
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Follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Upgrade to lollipop 39b
Root your device using lg 1 click root.
Download Autorec for ur variant from playstore, and install TWRP
Update TWRP to latest . ( for these steps, there's a guide i have written , you can check it for info)
Make a backup of your rom, and u can install any custom rom and experience them before u decide to make one your daily driver.