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Can't decide whether to get a Moto X or wait for the new Nexus

So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?

Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.

Depends on what the screen size is on the new Nexus. If it's 6 inches then I might opt for the X.

If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.

knitler said:
Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.
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Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).

Chris Hansen said:
Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).
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None of which really would appeal to me unless I was looking at the Note.

I think you misunderstood... I'm saying that if it comes with those specs in something like a 5.2" housing, that would be amazing. I don't want a bigger phone either, my old 5.5" was too unwieldy, 5.9" is just impractical.
If you did understand, then I don't know what you want in a phone. Because if a better quality, higher resolution display, more RAM, a larger battery, wireless charging(, for possibly a cheaper price) don't appeal to you, then I don't know what else would set apart a phone with an almost identical OS.

I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.

I'm interested to see about the Droid Turbo, Nexus and Z3.

Mayze23 said:
If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.
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Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.

Alaris said:
So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?
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If you don't need a new phone right this second, I can't see why you wouldn't just wait until the new Nexus device comes out. Then you can compare two devices that you actually know what they are, rather than comparing a device that exists, with a device about which there are only leaks, rumors, and speculation. That kind of doesn't make any sense.
In any case, that's what I'm doing. I want to see what the next Nexus device is like first.
Besides, some rumors suggest the new Nexus device will be announced in two weeks. If not, it will still probably be sometime in the next couple months. Doesn't seem like a big deal to wait.

dboss007 said:
I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.
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Same here. I can't make a decision until I see what everyone has to offer.

larryvand said:
Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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Where are you getting this info? Almost everything I've read shows that the iPhone 6 is outselling the 6+ as much as over 4 to 1 in some places.
I would agree to try something out before dismissing it. But after handling a Note 3 and briefly owning an OPPO Find 7a, I can say, that, unless the Nexus manages to be the same dimensions or smaller than my G2 was, I won't be picking up an N6.

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Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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I truly believe that this is not a good indicator of how the phone/tablet/phablet market will trend. It's an Apple product, people will buy it regardless of what it is because it's new and it's by Apple. Period.

Well, now you know: This is the Motorola Nexus 6

[Q] Is the nexus 6 amazing/worth it? I'm close to buying one..

Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.

Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.

zephiK said:
Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.
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You sir should write books thanks!

TeChNoC4AzY said:
You sir should write books thanks!
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Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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Alright! Thanks again

If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.

melgibson666 said:
If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.
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There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.

I came from a G3 and before that a Note 3
. the Nexus 6 is by far my favorite phone. The development for it is far beyond any other device I have seen, we have kernels, ROMs and everything in between.
The size isn't bad in fact I really like how big it is. It only took a day or two to get used to. Note when I use my wife's Moto X 2014 or S5 its like looking at a iPhone 4. While here may be other devices out there shortly with the SD810 its not going to be as good without devs working on making it better. I had the G3 F460S which had the SD805 and it was much slower than the Nexus with the same processor. LG didn't optimize the chip set well enough to make it worth the upgrade over the regular G3. My antutu score with it was ~46K which is the same as the Moto X that my wife has which is 100% stock. While my G3 was rooted and tweaked with some mods at the time.
The AMOLED display looks great compared to a LCD and its very responsive.
It boils down to preference and I love my Nexus and will buy the next one as well.

zephiK said:
There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.
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Nexus phones aren't the end all be all. Usually they have the most developer support but buying something just because it's a Nexus branded phone sounds an awful lot like those "Fruit" buying fanboys that will buy anything their cult favorite company puts out.

zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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i would also add that battery life is the most subjective issue. it literally depends on how you use the phone. if you're playing games or generally playing around with your phone, your battery life will suck. i use mine as a phone and tool for work and music in the gym and i get 2+ days of use.

Comes down to this....
TeChNoC4AzY said:
Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.
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If you like to tinker and have the time to spend doing so, the Nexus is the obvious choice. If on the other hand you spend more time doing things, working, recreation, socializing, then another phone will probably suit you better. Unfortunately this was my first Nexus device, and I got it thinking that it would be great to have a phone without all the carrier bloat. After getting it I found that many things I've come to consider standard in a phone, settings, options, etc. are sadly not present and probably will be in time with tinkering and trial and error, but I no longer have the time nor the patience to experiment on a device that I paid a large premium for that just seems to not only be crippled by sloppy software but also with possible hardware inconsistencies. I am lucky that I can jump any time I want and probably will here as soon as more devices come to market. But one thing the Nexus will do for you is help you to appreciate the care that other manufacturers put into their devices to support many features and options that a pure android device does not. So, with that in mind, make your won decision and live with it.

IMO, it's overpriced based on the quality of screen and some parts they used + poor QC.

[Q] as of today

would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?

Yes but not direct from Motorola
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Probably not.
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would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?
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I perhaps would try the LG G4. Prior to switching I had the LG G3 and it was a pretty great phone. Considering you only needed root and the exposed framework to do many cool features. Thought that it was a great concept for moving forward with devices. No longer waiting for that special ROM to come. It was truly a no hassle phone.
I'd go with the Sammy S6 edge except it is very small on screen size. But my number one concern with any phone is support for Android Auto, cause when I'm mobile, I am and want to be hands free mobile. But in my humble opinion, the Nexus is much more of a dedicated ROM, Framework, and Governor type phone which requires constant attention and tweaking by the user to get the most out of.

I love my N6 but I wish the camera was faster. The camera on the G4 is the only thing I covet
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Yes, I was not at all impressed with the m9. I must admit the s6 did impress me however only 5 inches and no front facing speakers makes me not want it. I must admit I am anxiously waiting for the note 5 and what ever the next Nexus device is going to be at the end of the year. If the next Nexus is smaller than 5.5 inches I will definitely consider the Note 5.
I am still very happy with my Nexus 6

I tend not to buy phones that are 6 months old. If it was 3 months ago, then yes.
There is nothing now that I feel would be any better either though. I'd probably be waiting until Autumn unless I had a desperate requirement

Yes, mostly because root is more and more elusive. There's so much less to worry about with a Nexus device: no need for exploits nor bootloader codes, no worries about bricking, and no lack of dev support.
That said, there are areas I would like to see improvement. Between Google and all the dev support, we don't have to wait long to see and implement them.

Coming from a S4 to this phone is like night and day. Boot loader, root, general flashing all much easier with a great forum to provide support.... whats not to love?? If none of those things matter to you then any phone would do but if you like to live a little on the edge and try new stuff.... this type of phone is a good choice.

Yes. Tired of waiting for ROMs and bootloader hacks and root access for other phones. Google gives you access to everything right out the box.

I would buy my Nexus 6 today in a heartbeat. Even though it's now an "older" device, there are many points that I love and haven't really seen in other devices. Top 5 reasons:
1. Aftermarket/community support
2. Build materials and quality (I like the plastic back with the metal frame. Might not be as "pretty" but the back is less likely to show abrasions and won't dent)
3. Lollipop/"Pure" Android (no bloat, cutting-edge software, timely updates)
4. The amazing hardware package (although we all agree the camera could be better on a device in this class)
a. awesome processors
b. lots o' RAM
c. fantastic radios (cell, GPS, BT, WiFi)
d. wonderful front stereo speakers
e. dat screen, doh
f. etc...
5. Size and shape

As others have said, I cannot go without an rooted and unlocked device. My heart would sink if i had an unmodable phone. The dev and community support is great. Other phones may have nice features here and there or higher benchmarks but if it cannot rooted and unlocked I'll pass. The manufacturers may have a their own idea of how a phone should be setup, but I don't prefer it. I want to tweak it to my liking, especially since this is primarily what in use to communicate with the world.
Just as in the plethora of ROMs available here: some are stock+ while others have a ton of features. I, fortunately, have the ability to choose which user-interface best pleases my needs.
If all phones were unlocked and rootable I would have to rethink my answer.

I would absolutely buy it again.

I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.

Definitely would buy again.
1) Unlockable bootloader with so little hassle
2) Dev community
At the same time I have been putting up with a slow camera ;(
Edit: good solution for camera just found: open camera (in the GPS: Dev mark Harman)

glenny buster said:
I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.
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Check out the disabling services thread in general http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821/page22 post 220 talks about disabling receivers, it refers to the google play update receivers they start with system.update. I disabled those 3 and battery life has been pretty good (along with other stuff I don't use... Fit, Kids, and such). Of course you need to be rooted to do this, I am using My Android Tools (I got the paid version but there is also a free version I think) to disable stuff. Just pay close attention to the thread and don't try to experiment.... at a minimum, you will want to have a nandroid backup before you start just incase you disable something by mistake.

in tech, its all about timing. there are 810 phones i can get today.. though i think i might be happier with the 805 than the 810, but the chips in the s6 look pretty good... i might even wait for the 6s-plus to come out if i were shopping today (if the 6 plus had 2 gigs of ram i would have gotten a 6 plus)... the phone i wanted more than anything was the droid turbo when deciding (was between nexus 6, moto x, m8 and droid turbo... so lots of moto). after seeing all the development for the nexus, i dont think i would go to another phone... but an lg nexus with ips display might be nice (dont need 4k, 1080 is fine... want a 4200 mAh battery).
and i have a feeling we are still unlocking new potential with the phone, porting moto features, getting cm implementation ironed out... lollipop is still in growing pains...

I just bought mine a couple weeks ago so I'd say yes. I was just tired of lack of root and delayed updates on the Note 4.

Beyond the Nexus 5

My first Nexus device was the Nexus 4. I loved the quick updates but the battery life was pathetic and it seemed to age quite quickly. I then moved to a Samsung Galaxy S4 but got annoyed over the slow updates around November 2014, I purchased the Nexus 5 and I have been really happy with it. Battery life still isn't that great (although much better than the Nexus 4) but the quick updates are amazing. It's also aged really well and still running reasonably ok. I wasn't keen on the Nexus 6 as this is far too big but I am now starting to think of what phone I should get to replace the Nexus 5.
What phones are you all considering? The obvious choice seems to be to wait for the next Nexus phone but I'm not sure if they'd keep in line with the Nexus 5 or 6 (they might do both). Plus, it'd be quite a few months away so in the meantime I was thinking of the LG G4 as LG seem to be quite good with updates.
Thoughts and suggestions?

N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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DummyPLUG said:
N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.

fwayfarer said:
Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Still didn't change their bad behave, you will never believe the cost down of their product. Company like sharp and HTC will tight control everything use in their product down to rev., sometime it may down to specific batch and have a quite large margin for the design. For average user you won't notice anything, but if you take a look at the circuit you may wonder by their miracle.
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I do not agree. It is my opinion that HTC is not the same, and does not have the same quality that they did years ago. It is also my opinion that Samsung devices have seriously gone down in quality.
For power users like us, we desire top of the line devices. We expect them to perform to a standard that the average user does not.
For the average user who just needs to check email and receive MMS picture messages of their grandkids, cheap Chinese phones can't be beat. If you want more, then yeah you have to pay more and buy from a bigger named company.

I´m also happy with my Nexus 5 and this device is still one of the best around, in terms of performance.
If I were you, I would wait a few months for the next Nexus device to be released. Who knows, maybe Google will release a Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) or a slightly smaller Nexus 6 ( 2015 ) ?

Its nice to have a new phone every now and again, but I would wait a while to see what happens with the next Nexus phone; it might just make you fall in love with the Nexus family again.

I think they will make a smaller Nexus phone this year. I'd like a 5.5 or 5.2in device with thin bezels.

I just wish it would be small enough (5") and has a better camera hardware (Nexus 5's is quite a bit lacking).

Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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alen1901 said:
Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Ok you convinced me, patience is a virtue after all I'm sure the next Nexus would be awesome, I really don't like the direction they went with the Nexus 6 but rumours say that this was originally part of the Android Silver program (or whatever it was called) and it was only switched back to a Nexus phone last minute. Anyway, fingers crossed that the next Nexus is as awesome (or more so) than the Nexus 5 and equally good value for money.

I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though

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I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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If the next Nexus is released in October then I think we're due for some major rumour/leaks about now. The feature at the top of my wishlist for the phone is a very large battery with some serious battery optimisation. Together creating a phone that exceptional run time far more than anything else on the market.

The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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This was my thinking with the LG G4 because the line of phones has stood the test of time. The LG G2 was released over a year and a half ago but it's still holding up well and LG are still supporting it with Lollipop (although it takes a while for the update to reach the phone). Something tells me the LG G4 could easily be supported for 2 years if not more. However, although the battery is around 3000mAh, it doesn't have amazing battery life. Much better than the Nexus 5 and would easily take most through the whole day but I'm really thinking that a phone that can easily take most people through 48 hours is a new standard that should be strived by manufacturers.

The s6 is tempting for me. I'd be gutted if nexus realesed a beast though. Can't beat pure android.

I owned a Nexus 6 for a couple months. I never liked the size and couldn't get used to it. I also hated the shape of the phone. It was not stable laying a desk. Surprisingly, I use my phone one handed while it lays on a desk a lot to send texts. That weird curved back wobbles and spins if you try to use it one handed like that. I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
I have switched back to my Nexus 5 and sold the 6 and am so much happier. I know now that I never want a phone larger than the Nexus 5. I am also on Sprint which makes buying a non-carrier phone virtually impossible. Basically I am stuck hoping the Nexus 5 refresh is small or keeping an eye on something like the Galaxy S6/HTC M9 AOSP custom rom scene which I really don't want to mess around with.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
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..I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
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We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.

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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I too dont have a camera, but really phones cant substitute real camera. The only devices which are close are lg g4 and galaxy s6, but these devices are flagships, i dont think you will see that kind of camera on nexus phone because.. Well, its a nexus. If they make it a budget phone again, im sure you wont get that great camera. But maybe google surprises us.
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What's your next device? Note 7 or something else?

I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.

Araltd said:
I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!

Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic

I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?

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Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.

steven.rn said:
I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?

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says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.

I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.

I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol

The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.

I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted

Techngro said:
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha

This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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mdiaz33685 said:
I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.

I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different

Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.

I might get the Moto G4 Plus

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I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).