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Am I too poor to be excited about the Note 4?

OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?

I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.

keithfrombm said:
i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!

I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.

@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.

i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.

Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.

jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.

A|ex said:
The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.

torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)

actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.

I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?

EP2008 said:
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?

A|ex said:
Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.

I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
/CK

I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.

Bruce lee roy said:
I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR

[POLLS] GALAXY NOTE 5 is OUT. Will you Upgrade?

The Brand New Galaxy NOTE 5 has just been officially announced by Samsung. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Galaxy Note 4 users were excited about the New device till they got the knowledge of what was under the hood. What was really making the New device tick. This instead brought up some mixed feelings (and made some of us curious and some even mad).
So judging from the information we already have about the Galaxy Note 5 (if not, try here) the obvious and most important question is: Is it a worthy Upgrade from what you already own? and another question is: WILL YOU UPGRADE?
Lets vote, vote, vote and try predicting the fate of the New NOTE.

Samsung decided for me, they won't even let me buy it.

No. I won't, and I always do. I change phones 3 times a year. I'm an addict. I had GS6 and switched to G4 which I like better. I was 100% sure I'd buy the Note 5, but when they decided to just take the S6 and make it bigger, and add the S pen I decided against it. Note has always been a premium device, not a bigger gs6. This reeks of Samsung choking the profit out of its loyal following like Apple with there S upgrade.
What will happen? It will sell. The Sammy Sheep will follow their Shepard. I also believe there are more consumers who have NO IDEA about the SOC and tech info who will just buy the big phone.
I'm going to look at the Moto Pure, and even though it has the 808, I don't feel like Moto is trying to stick it to me like Samsung.
Man LG has a golden opportunity. Let's hope they know it and act on it. If they'd put out a 5.7 " screen with a bigger removable battery, SD card, stylus, and the 820 they'd kill it
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Definitely not. As dicemaster said, it wont be available in my country. Furthermore, not worthy enough tot replace my 910c.

lol is that even a question? yet still better joke then samsung made.

LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.

Say No For Glass
using Glass was such a stupid idea

The fact that my line's still on contract until December 2016 aside (yes, Sprint still does contract pricing on our grandfathered plan), why would I downgrade to a Note 5 when I have a Note 4 that does more (removable battery, microSD, IR blaster) and is already quite fast and responsive on 5.1.1 OG5?
The only good thing I have to say about the Note 5 right now is that it just makes the existing Note 4 that much more valuable, possibly the last great Samsung phone if they don't get their act together for the Note 6.

No way. Looks like it's all downhill from here on in for Sammy.
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To me the Note 5 presentation was an EPIC FAIL.
Far to many praising words "awesome, great, design, best, word's first, etc..." and very little content.
They could make the whole presentation in a few seconds, "The S6 edge plus, the larger S6 edge. The Note 5 the larger s6 with a pen."
I saw people clapping for no reason, even for the 90s style cheap looking plastic keyboard/cover which was in fact the only thing new they could show us.
WOW... Samsung you made history!

i dont spent my money in this trash.my note 4 is better then 5.for some extras of note 5 i wait the devs...
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 versus Note 4: What's the difference?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-versus-note-4-whats-difference

I beg to differ. I think the Note 5 offers a whole different design to the Note series. Yes it's like S6 blown up, but the core functionality of Note is still there. Note 5 is like an improvement over Note 4, albeit without a SD card and removable battery. I await to see battery scores before I make the switch. If you've handled (and love) the S6/S6 Edge, I'm pretty certain you'll love the Note 5.
I'll just counter no SD card with this:
http://www.sandisk.sg/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
Also, since the S$1188 64GB Note 5 is available in Singapore from Saturday 15 August onwards (not a typo!) with preorder goodies like Fast Wireless Charging Pad amongst others, I might just switch!! Awaiting the hands-on tomorrow.

Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover.Extra for some
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram and a faster type
Better camera in low light both back and front
Faster flash drive
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden. ?
Edit: no Ir and no usb C
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3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden.
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None of the plus sides you list compensates for micro sd slot.
Wireless charging is always sluggish and useless to me, 4gb ram is only noticed in heavy multitasking and found in 1/3rd of the price Asus Zenfone 2, Keyboard cover is ugly, pointless and useless, speakers are not a pro (not front facing stereo speakers), Samsung pay will only work when Note 6 or 7 is launched, cpu performance of the note 4 was never an issue, camera is practically the same.
Looking at Note 4 firmware track records, you can assume that the Note 5 will be forgotten by Samsung after one year.

no removable battery+no sd card.......well i came from lg and since lg will lauche the g4 pro with 5.8 inchs+above 20 pixel camera....and not to mention the next g flex 3...probably going back to lg!!!
personally it dont worth the upgrade....

Strategist said:
LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
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BOOM!! +1000!!
You hit the nail on the head, exactly my thoughts.
The Note 5 just made my Note 4 more precious, I am going to stick with it, get a 128GB MicroSDXC for it and a new case as it will have to serve me another year now, no thanks to Samsung!
Samsung has disappointed the most loyal of users, the 'Power Users', they actually do not realise how influential we can be, especially thanks to popular tech sites, blogs and YouTube reviewers. They are going to pay hard for this mess!

I changed my batteri like to times today because I was a busy and used it all day it save me a lot of work and was online the hole day without any plugging until now of course, and it seems I can't do that with the note 5 so no not at all I will keep note 4 until they come with a better one next year with an exchangeable battery this is seriously the only reason I picked the note 4 , thy've should keept the note series far away from the S series they so dumb if next year the same design I'm going to LG that for sure

Can't believe Sammy would throw away all the things that made the note stand out. Am definitely not getting a note 5.

3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
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Wireless Chargin: Already have the cover...
Keyboard cover: wtf?
speakers?: not a plus if it isn't known or confirmed.
Samsung pay: (isn't this just beepngo tech? doesn't the note4 have this?)
octacore and less drain: This is probably true, but it will only offset for the smaller battery most likely.
4gb ram: this is definitely a plus, but only if their software isn't a memory hog.
better camera: I believe it is the exact same camera.
This poll is actually insane! I haven't seen a new launch device have the community so polarized against purchasing it ... 92% not liking it... that isn't good for business samsung.
I personally could have gotten on board with a non-replaceable battery, but to kill the sd card too... not good. They should have just given it a little tray. Isn't samsung the biggest retailer of sdxc cards anyways? what the heck.. don't they want to sell sdxc cards to everyone?

Note 4 to LG G4 Pro/Note

Something, maybe the pro/note will be released/announced on Thursday. I didn't sidegrade to the note 5 for reasons discussed elsewhere (ie unavailable in UK, no sd slot or removable battery and appallingly slow upgrades by Sammy).
So looking out for the next big thing ( ) which won't be Samsung until they start listening to their customers rather than trying to copy apple....
Now the big question is whether or not to wait until 2016 releases to get something which is a fairly big upgrade from the n4 or try the LG.
I doubt this will come with the 820 chip so the difference between this and my note 4 will likely be a fingerprint scanner and 5.8" screen. The rest will be fairly comparable unless they launch with a really high end finish which has been touted (and denied!).
Just wondering where other note 4 users are at, especially those who upgrade when the next best thing is launched and have had their note 4 for 12 months and are wanting to try something new....:good:

Same thoughts here

I'm keen to see what comes out the Google event today. I've been toying with the idea of leaving the note 4 behind and moving to the nexus range. My opinion is, if you want quick, fast reliable android updates nothing is going to beat the Nexus range.
To be honest, fault apple all you want, but they certainly got the whole software upgrade down to a T.

Nobody has had their Note 4 12months unless they had a test unit.
I have had my Note 4 since launch week, and I have decided to wait until next year. Nothing released in 2015 is worth moving to from a Note 4. The Snapdragon 810 phones overheat and have crap battery life, 808 phones have weak GPUs, MediaTek...the less the bettes. The 2015 Samsung phones are just iPhone Clones.
Nothing worth getting in 2015.
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If LG actually stops faffing about with crappy capacitive styluses on downgraded variants and puts a real active digitizer pen in there, be it Wacom, N-trig or anyone else (preferably Wacom for tablet PC/Galaxy Note compatibility reasons), maybe we'd have a Galaxy Note competitor when we need it most.
Literally every other phone line, Nexus included, is irrelevant to me without that.
But until that happens or Samsung snaps to their senses with the Note 6, the only alternative to the Note 4 is another Note 4.
With all that said, a lot of people are on two-year contracts for their phones anyway, though that's quickly getting abandoned here by every carrier that isn't AT&T. Upgrading after just one year seems a bit hasty, and when you're coming from a Note 4, you're probably going to be downgrading in some respect.

Hasty? Only because THE key player who year on year improved the note took a backward step! In the UK even the phone shops don't understand why the N5 wasn't launched here! Although its not an upgrade...I normally upgrade at least to the newest note each year and even tried the OPO mid term and got a little bored of the Note 3! However I soon went back to my old pal again!!!
I wouldn't mind so much if Samsung kept devices up to date and paid attention to vulnerabilities like Stage fright. I think it is disgusting the way they flog a top quality and top dollar device then employ a small team/probably just a one man band to maintain their huge range. THIS is why I'm happy to ditch them! They need to learn quickly or continue to suffer further under target performances. Amazes me how quickly a new device can be launched but their software team are exactly the opposite!
As for Nexus, its not really comparable to the Note series (excluding the Note 5 which is just a big S6 with a pen).
Maybe the 820 chipped devices will be the growler to wait for in the new year! Samsung will probably be planning stagefright fix and 'M' mid 16!

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Hasty? Only because THE key player who year on year improved the note took a backward step! In the UK even the phone shops don't understand why the N5 wasn't launched here! Although its not an upgrade...I normally upgrade at least to the newest note each year and even tried the OPO mid term and got a little bored of the Note 3! However I soon went back to my old pal again!!!
I wouldn't mind so much if Samsung kept devices up to date and paid attention to vulnerabilities like Stage fright. I think it is disgusting the way they flog a top quality and top dollar device then employ a small team/probably just a one man band to maintain their huge range. THIS is why I'm happy to ditch them! They need to learn quickly or continue to suffer further under target performances. Amazes me how quickly a new device can be launched but their software team are exactly the opposite!
As for Nexus, its not really comparable to the Note series (excluding the Note 5 which is just a big S6 with a pen).
Maybe the 820 chipped devices will be the growler to wait for in the new year! Samsung will probably be planning stagefright fix and 'M' mid 16!
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stagefright fixed already for note 4

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stagefright fixed already for note 4
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if you have 5.1.1 which I still don't - and how long did it take to issue a fix?? TOO long. And that's my point.

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if you have 5.1.1 which I still don't - and how long did it take to issue a fix?? TOO long. And that's my point.
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if im not wrong besides carrier phones in us note 4 also got it pretty fast. note 4 is actually getting all updates pretty fast but i dont know why there is a big drama among note 4 users. only regional updates are very stupid.

clearly not in the international (uk) phone! It appears many other areas have received it but not this. And that's why its a drama.
Without fast updates this will probably only get worse, the next time an exploit has been found and a bug tries to hack it before a fix can be deployed.

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clearly not in the international (uk) phone! It appears many other areas have received it but not this. And that's why its a drama.
Without fast updates this will probably only get worse, the next time an exploit has been found and a bug tries to hack it before a fix can be deployed.
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like i said regional updates are stupid. waiting more than 1 or 2 month for an update which is released for other countries is worst about samsung.

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-officially-unveils-v10-second-screen-and-dual-front-facing-cameras
tempting? I think it looks good. Liking some of the new features but the back could do with an upgrade! No UK launch imminent though grrr

after a disappointing experience with the G3 (which is still a decent phone, but the bootloader needing a hack to flash roms and build quality put me off) I ditched it for the note4. I'd be a bit wary of LG phones. Most 'flagship' phones seem to be using the snapdragon 808 or 810 for the moment unless i'm mistaken. not sure they're really worth the upgrade. I would wait until 2016.
if samsung makes a decent note6 again with a SoC which isn't a pain in the ass to port to i think that could be very interesting.

I'm rather interested in the MS Talkman 950XL. Windows phone ecosystem seems a happy medium between Android and Apple.

Nexus 6P was my option but then again no microsd/removable battery.
Right now my Note 4 is really smooth with 5.1.1. And samsung announced theyre gonna release Marsmellows for Note 4, so Im just gonna wait another year.
Lg 4 pro isnt that big of a upgrade compared to Note 4.
Also my next phone must have infrared like N4. I cant live without it.

I can't find an alternative phone to replace my beloved N6

I've had this phone almost 2 years now. It's a beast, I love the big screen, it's fast and it's pure android. The other day I was thinking if it was time to replace and upgrade to a new phone and did a bit of research. I have a budget so nothing too fancy or any latest releases. So had a look at Mate 8, Mate S, Huawei P9, OnePlus 3, Lg V10, even 6p.
To be honest nothing wowed me. Similar specs, maybe few plus sides but nothing made me go 'ok that's it'. Maybe the fingerprint scanner but I'm not fussed really.
So anyone in the same boat let me know if you've find any good alternatives or are you waiting for Pixel phones. I'm interested if anyone else is looking for an upgrade.
My other option is to wait another year once the Pixel phones go cheaper and upgrade to Pixel XL.
So let me know what you guys think..
Cheers

the best phone i can find in the market right now is Samsung S7 edge
great battery life and awesome screen and is snapy for sure
the only bad side is touchwoz but you can get rid of it

pincakez said:
the best phone i can find in the market right now is Samsung S7 edge
great battery life and awesome screen and is snapy for sure
the only bad side is touchwoz but you can get rid of it
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I hate Samsung. I'd rather to buy a Nokia 5110 then a Samsung! Are you waiting for Pixel phones to upgrade?

Awaiting pixel xl and Honor 9 to see if I give up my N6. If they don't wow me, I'll just keep the N6 until something does.

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I hate Samsung. I'd rather to buy a Nokia 5110 then a Samsung! Are you waiting for Pixel phones to upgrade?
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htc ? im not sure
i can't use a phone without Amoled big screen
i love nexus and i bought nexus 4 and 5 and 6 and 6 is the best of them
but i don't like htc to be honest
imo the screen is the most important thing in any phone
that's why i recommend Samsung
s7 edge is awesome and dont judge this phone unless you have used it first
i hate Samsung too but this phone ia wow

wtherrell said:
Awaiting pixel xl and Honor 9 to see if I give up my N6. If they don't wow me, I'll just keep the N6 until something does.
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I don't really have high hopes for Pixel XL really. I reckon if I want to upgrade 6p is going to be my choice as the price will drop once Pixel is launched.

I'm in the same boat as you, I really wanted to upgrade to the Note 7 despite my hate for TouchWiz, but there are launchers to fix that. Until that whole battery explosion fiasco happened around the same time my contract ended so I decided to hold off for the Pixel phones. I guess I will know for sure next week, if the Pixel lineup isn't any good then I might get the Note 7 or S7 Edge.
If not I could wait for Samsung's new galaxy lineup, which will be announced early next year

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I'm in the same boat as you, I really wanted to upgrade to the Note 7 despite my hate for TouchWiz, but there are launchers to fix that. Until that whole battery explosion fiasco happened around the same time my contract ended so I decided to hold off for the Pixel phones. I guess I will know for sure next week, if the Pixel lineup isn't any good then I might get the Note 7 or S7 Edge.
If not I could wait for Samsung's new galaxy lineup, which will be announced early next year
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That explosion thing totally put me off too. I don't think I can afford a Samsung at the moment anyway looks like my best bet is either wait for next year and buy cheaper Pixel XL or buy 6p now and use it next 2-3 years.

The 6p is pretty nice. I have a N6. Got a 6p used. I like good audio for podcasts mostly. I watch hours of video at work. Both running Pure Nexus. Very snappy. Its a tossup . I like them both equally. Got a 5x for the kid. She loves it.

there's nothing coming up that I feel is an upgrade across the board, I got the shamu on launch day and was also expecting to pick up a pixel but its been a let down so far with design/specs/price
I'm thinking maybe catching a 6p on fire sale price around thanksgiving or new year, or going with the cheaper midrange chinese oems(oneplus 3/saxon 7) depending on development support
all meh choices so there's a good chance I'll stay put with this device into next year
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Op3, it is dev friendly. If is true that the new pixels will kill the nexus line, I think that I must give a prize to a company that is close to developers, no locked bootloader or similar bull..it
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Why replace it? If you want new device, keep your beloved N6 and buy new one someday I personally can't live with only one phone, there are too many awesome devices out there (in my opinion). But if money is the problem and you need to sell N6 in order to be able to buy a new one, then it's a whole different story and understandable

I can't anything that wowed me like my n6. I would like a op3 but with the lack of band 13 for verizon, and my area is covered with it. I'm stuck with verizon for the most part, only have coverage with most of the rural area I live in. Sprint roams off verizon, the nearest tower for tmo is 15 miles away and I live in the mountians. ATT has the 2nd best coverage, but doesn't have service in my house, and it a lot of areas I go to. I used to be a samsung fan until they started with the knox crap, after my s3, I have never had an samsung device again. I was a fan of Motorola, until Lenovo took over. Looks like I'll be sporting my n6 for a while. At my work, I've actually been pushing the n6 for people to buy them lol

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there's nothing coming up that I feel is an upgrade across the board, I got the shamu on launch day and was also expecting to pick up a pixel but its been a let down so far with design/specs/price
I'm thinking maybe catching a 6p on fire sale price around thanksgiving or new year, or going with the cheaper midrange chinese oems(oneplus 3/saxon 7) depending on development support
all meh choices so there's a good chance I'll stay put with this device into next year
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That's exactly what I had in mind. But I'd rather to grab a 6p around Xmas time then a cheap Chinese device

Samsung Galaxy s6 Edge plus !! The best for me.
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The Nexus6 P works a treat on XDA development and has longevity in its gene's!

yudumcan said:
I've had this phone almost 2 years now. It's a beast, I love the big screen, it's fast and it's pure android. The other day I was thinking if it was time to replace and upgrade to a new phone and did a bit of research. I have a budget so nothing too fancy or any latest releases. So had a look at Mate 8, Mate S, Huawei P9, OnePlus 3, Lg V10, even 6p.
To be honest nothing wowed me. Similar specs, maybe few plus sides but nothing made me go 'ok that's it'. Maybe the fingerprint scanner but I'm not fussed really.
So anyone in the same boat let me know if you've find any good alternatives or are you waiting for Pixel phones. I'm interested if anyone else is looking for an upgrade.
My other option is to wait another year once the Pixel phones go cheaper and upgrade to Pixel XL.
So let me know what you guys think..
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Well, my phone buying pattern has been like this;
Palm Treo 650, 2004
HTC Dream ADP1, 2008
HTC Vision, 2010
Samsuck Relay, 2012 (first and LAST samsuck I will ever buy)
Nexus 6, 2014.
Note the pattern: update when there is something WORTH updating to. For a little while, that was a 2-year cycle. THIS cycle will go longer, since this N6 is still perfect. Should have seen the condition of the palm treo when I was done with it -- the lots-of-pins plug was removed, had a capacitor sticking out the bottom of it, and a custom charging plug, a couple of resistors soldered onto the inside near the battery. That 2004-2008 range was REALLY desolate, sure wasn't going to buy RIM or FRUIT junk.
I will be buying my wife a Pixel XL to replace her N5, and sticking to the N6 for myself. Why? Well the pixel XL will have a better SoC, but not *so* much better that it will have ANY impact on my life.
As far as the 6p goes, straight across the board, it is either equal or LESS than the N6.
Screen: less
RAM: equal
CPU: less (the SD810 is definitely NOT as good as the 805, it was just adequate for them to be able to bump the number to say "64bitz!!!", which won't actually do any good in a phone).
Not that the 6p is a terrible phone or anything, but I already have something slightly BETTER than it, so it would be stupid to get one.
Actually, my N6 recently suffered a... mishap. Got some impact thanks to a 2 year old, that even with a ballistic maxx, caused a couple of cracks in the digitizer, and SHATTERED the AMOLED. Yeah, it was worth buying a new screen for it. TOTALLY worth it.

mdlf said:
Samsung Galaxy s6 Edge plus !! The best for me.
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Is s7 much different then s6?

No much... But sure I want to say screen dimentions and price. Ive had a Note 2....fantastic !! Now, I have a N6 and my girlfriend a Note 4 . Note 7...isnt the right time to buy it.... Sorry but...I prefer turn back to Samsung.
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I'm in the same boat, was kinda waiting for the Lenovo Phab Tab 2 Pro, but it has been delayed till 'this fall'.
Don't want to go back to much in screen size, so i'm undecided for now....

Anyone jumping ship?

So it's that time of year again when a new and honestly beastly lime of Samsung flagships is announced. The Galaxy S20 line looks legitimately promising but is it enought to give up the Note 9 and S pen though? Or are you gonna wait to see what the Note 20/+/Ultra has to offer a few months down the line.
I wanna see everyone's view on these new phones that ol Sammy has announced. I'm personally on the fence. I want the new tech but I just know the Note line will blow it out of the water later this year so it leaves room for a potential bait and switch lol.
What about you all?

Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
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butchieboy said:
Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
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It'll most likely be even more of a best but I'm still on the fence to be honest. Like I want to check out the 20 Ultra but I know it's be upset if I got it and then the note big brother died up later lol

Never cause I hate iOS cloned software

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What do you mean

Note line as long as the hole in the screen is gone. Nothing about the S line has ever really want me to part with money.

KingVekxin said:
So it's that time of year again when a new and honestly beastly lime of Samsung flagships is announced. The Galaxy S20 line looks legitimately promising but is it enought to give up the Note 9 and S pen though? Or are you gonna wait to see what the Note 20/+/Ultra has to offer a few months down the line.
I wanna see everyone's view on these new phones that ol Sammy has announced. I'm personally on the fence. I want the new tech but I just know the Note line will blow it out of the water later this year so it leaves room for a potential bait and switch lol.
What about you all?
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I'm intrigued with just about any new midrange to flagship phone that comes out.
However, I usually steer clear of the S lineup for a few reasons.
1) No S-Pen. I rarely use it, but, it's nice to have when you want/need it. The price difference between the top of the line S series & the Note is negligible considering you get the S-Pen & usually some newer hardware/software features.
2) I don't particularly care for the curves on the S series, preferring the boxier look of the Note.
3) The hole punch. Yeah, you can (probably) hide it, just as you can on the Note 10, but, that kinda sux that you sacrifice screen real estate for a cleaner look. The fact that all the marketing pix hide it w/dark gradient wallpapers & having a software option to hide it is an admission that it's an awful stopgap before the hidden FFC's are available.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not tempted to get the S20 Ultra. The 5G speeds alone are definitely appreciable, both the Note 10 & OP7T Pro are definitely snappier with it. However, the eye-watering price of $1400-$1600 USD is a hard pill to swallow.
The only way I'll jump ship is if pre-order trade-in offers on the carriers (T-Mobile US here) is a lot better than the $300 that Samsung is offering. Otherwise, I'm hanging on to the Note 9 until the Note 20 arrives, or longer. Mine is running just as well as it did on opening day & battery health is still around the 95% range,kinda hard to trade it in for the measly $210 that T-Mobile is currently offering. (Not particularly interested in bothering with listing it on Swappa & the like, last time I checked,way too many available for sale,it's a buyer's market)
In the meantime, I scratched my itch for new hardware yesterday.
T-Mobile slashed the price of their Pixel 4 lineup:
Pixel 4XL was $899,sale price as of 2/12/20: $499.
Pixel 4 was $799,now 50% off as of 2/12/20: $399.
Got it (4XL) on T-Mobile's JOD, $0 down & free overnight shipping, ETA 2/14/20.
Will use it as a daily driver for the first week or two, long enough to determine if it's a keeper (for a backup/secondary phone) or, send it back during the buyer's remorse grace period.
Is the S20 worth getting?
I wouldn't fault anyone who doesn't want to wait for the next Note to land, but, I'd definitely stay away from the smallest one, as it doesn't have the MM Wave variety of 5G. Yeah, I know 99% of the US doesn't even have it available, present company included, however, @ $1000, no sale here.
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Still loving my note 9. I see no reason to upgrade. Note9 still is peak smartphone for me. Note 10 was a step backwards (I don't like notches or holes in my display, and I like my headphone jack).
Note 11 or 20 or whatever likely isn't an upgrade for me either. Note 9 still goes two days on a charge unless I game on it, still fast as when I bought it, and still takes great photos. I'll wait until some of that changes.

My wife and I might be switching to something a little more stock related later this year. Just tired of bloat, crappy support when it comes to issues, and definitely something a lot cheaper. Maybe if Google does things right, I might just get two Pixel 4a/XL or whatever when they eventually come out? Not sure to be honest. OnePlus is now up there with the big guys in pricing so that might not happen. Don't know, but I do know that I will be keeping my Note 9 as a backup.

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What do you mean
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Compare iOS 12 to Pie and you'll see what I mean. Google decided to clone iOS 12 with Pie

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Compare iOS 12 to Pie and you'll see what I mean. Google decided to clone iOS 12 with Pie
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Fam, please don't start that here. That subject has been killed by dark matter long after humans were wiped out the first time around.
^ yeah, that's how ridiculous it is.??*

Jammol said:
My wife and I might be switching to something a little more stock related later this year. Just tired of bloat, crappy support when it comes to issues, and definitely something a lot cheaper. Maybe if Google does things right, I might just get two Pixel 4a/XL or whatever when they eventually come out? Not sure to be honest. OnePlus is now up there with the big guys in pricing so that might not happen. Don't know, but I do know that I will be keeping my Note 9 as a backup.
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I'm gonna try my best to keep my 9 but I can't do pixels only because Google refuses to put in a micro SD card slot. That and the specs don't ever really impress me. There's never a wow factor. Besides it being stock Android there's nothing cool about it

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Fam, please don't start that here. That subject has been killed by dark matter long after humans were wiped out the first time around.
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C'mon man it's basically the truth. Why are there so many similarities then if Google supposedly didn't clone iOS 12?

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C'mon man it's basically the truth. Why are there so many similarities then if Google supposedly didn't clone iOS 12?
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Did you know cars have 4 wheels, and some even have 3? Brakes, windows, and engine, some gas, electric, diesel, and now hydrogen? They even have lights. Whoa. Wait, they should stop cloning each other!!!! I want a car without disc brakes!!! Needs to use polarity transfer for stopping before I buy it....
Bruh, it's called competition. You have to use some of the likeness of your competition if you're trying to tell their customers, "hey you can do the same thing over here, but a little cheaper." Well, you don't have to, but it sure makes it easier to win. I don't know what to tell you man. Go buy a windows phone? Oh wait those are the same too....
By the way, at the core of ios and android....same architecture...tsk, stupid clones, they're even using the same screens...?
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I'm gonna try my best to keep my 9 but I can't do pixels only because Google refuses to put in a micro SD card slot. That and the specs don't ever really impress me. There's never a wow factor. Besides it being stock Android there's nothing cool about it
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Yeah, the one thing I hate about the pixels is the affordability no longer really being a bumped compared to my Note 9. Putting shiny wrapping on a turd doesn't make it hot sh....you know where I'm going with this.
Luckily for me, my wife doesn't even use the spen, so I just need to make sure I get her a phone that's compatible with xfinity mobile that won't cost an arm and leg. ?

Jammol said:
Did you know cars have 4 wheels, and some even have 3? Brakes, windows, and engine, some gas, electric, diesel, and now hydrogen? They even have lights. Whoa. Wait, they should stop cloning each other!!!! I want a car without disc brakes!!! Needs to use polarity transfer for stopping before I buy it....
Bruh, it's called competition. You have to use some of the likeness of your competition if you're trying to tell their customers, "hey you can do the same thing over here, but a little cheaper." Well, you don't have to, but it sure makes it easier to win. I don't know what to tell you man. Go buy a windows phone? Oh wait those are the same too....
By the way, at the core of ios and android....same architecture...tsk, stupid clones, they're even using the same screens...
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Yeah, the one thing I hate about the pixels is the affordability no longer really being a bumped compared to my Note 9. Putting shiny wrapping on a turd doesn't make it hot sh....you know where I'm going with this.
Luckily for me, my wife doesn't even use the spen, so I just need to make sure I get her a phone that's compatible with xfinity mobile that won't cost an arm and leg.
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Lol that's different. Google has decided to clone iOS since they ran out of new ideas

butchieboy said:
Note line for me. Still have my Original Note1,2,3,4,5,FE,8,9,10...gonna see what Note11(20) has in store. If anything like the S20 I I'm sure it will be a beast.
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Not liking the price though, it's getting to the point where it's outside my price range, no justification in spending so much on a pocket pc that can be damaged, lost or stolen so easily...
And the note lineup is gonna be so much more expensive than the S20 variants...

Nope, kinda pissed that the plain note 10 is smaller than the 9 the 10+ is the same size as the 9 so you pay more for less? I kind my full rounded screen. The notch hole punch, whatever their doing these days. I like having a whole screen. The biggest thing for me is personalization. You look at iPhone and everyone has the same layout and everything. With Android is free reign. I like being in control of my device more so than the other way around

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Not liking the price though, it's getting to the point where it's outside my price range, no justification in spending so much on a pocket pc that can be damaged, lost or stolen so easily...
And the note lineup is gonna be so much more expensive than the S20 variants...
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Exactly!
I may skip yet another year in the Note upgrade game, & this is coming from someone who got the Note FE (still have it).
The Note 10+5G (T-Mobile US) is a beast,warts & all.
However, while the 5G speeds are nice,if you have already fast 4G LTE &/or Wi-Fi most of the time, it's a hard sell when you have a perfectly fine Note 9 & that's why I returned mine during the buyer's remorse period.
If the Note 20 is priced much more than the S20 Ultra, I'll probably sit out another upgrade & will continue to do so until my Note 9 battery takes a nosedive....
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I'm actually waiting to see what Samsung does with the new note. I just came from IOS to Android and I've always loved the Note series but I couldn't afford the Note 10 + currently so i got the note 9 for like $350 and it's so damn good. By the time Samsung announces the new note I should be financially stable enough to get it on launch day so I'll be patient and continue to use this beast of a phone.

Ladies and gents the Note 9 is the goat! When the 10 came out with the hole punch I was not loving it but I tried the 10+ before I bought the 9 I was using my note 8 which was great but the battery was poor life otherwise note 8 was great. So the note 10+ I bought was having very poor reception and when I was gaming some of my buttons were near the hole punch and it was effecting game performance so I looked at note 9 specs and seen that it's the last note with headphone jack no hole screen and 4000mah battery! Plus when I had finally decided to upgrade from note 8 the 9 had been out a year and a half so the prices were coming down, I bought not 1 but 2 note 9 from Samsung on ebay for 349.99 brand new! I am fully prepared for this to be the last phone I ever use...