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What's your next device? Note 7 or something else?

I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.

Araltd said:
I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!

Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic

I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?

vanemburghj said:
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.

steven.rn said:
I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?

vanemburghj said:
says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.

I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.

I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol

The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.

I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted

Techngro said:
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha

This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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mdiaz33685 said:
I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.

I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different

Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.

I might get the Moto G4 Plus

rile1564 said:
I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).

Note 8 to V30?

Hey guys, I have been using the Note 8 for 6 months now and I like the phone over all. Few things I am not finding very comfortable are it's size and the weight. And in general gotten a bit bored of the phone. So, I had been to a local store yesterday and saw the V30 here in India. And I must say I really liked it. The design, the display, the form factor and over all appeal of the phone was really good. The only poor thing was it's front camera. But I am not selfie person so I can live with it. But the wide angle rear camera is dope. I hardly use the portrait mode on the Note 8. But I used to take lot of fun pictures with my G6. So I am thinking of switching to the V30. Has anyone here done it? Or own both the phones? Need some honest opinions

If you are just EVEN considering this, my advice is that you should do it, in my case I would NEVER consider using anything less than a samsung galaxy note series device, for me, it is all about the S PEN, the most unique feature among all other devices, what makes the note series devices stand out, you see, anybody who gets a note device should consider the s pen as the #1 reason, if not, the S+ series would be the logical choice, or other good real flagship for that matter, (LG, sony, apple, google, etc)

Haha. Thanks for the advice. I haven't been able to use anything other than Samsung phones in the last 4 years. And one Major reson for that has been the display and to an extent camera. I love the Note 8 and would have not thought of switching, had I not seen the V30. The V30 is much more comfortable in the hand because of its size, weight and form factor. Also, the POLED screen is so much more better than their old LCD displays. And I even compared the Note 8 to the V30 and to my surprise I sort of liked the V30 better. And even while playing those large 4K videos, the V30 was stutter free while my Note 8 clearly was not as smooth. Nevertheless, I am still super confused, as i fear that i might regret my decision later. I have spent a lot of money on the insurance and on the original Samsung case and resale value is bad here in India. But my gut feeling is to still go ahead and try the V30
Well, I thought I will be using the S pen a lot, but unfortunately dint use it after the first few weeks.

I agree, if that's how you feel go for it. Even if someone tries to convince you not to, you already have the thought & may not agree. But if someone tells you reasons why you should you'll probably agree because you have that thought already. People look for assurance to make big decisions, it's human nature. But this decision is yours, it's your personal preference, everyone is different & nothing wrong with that.
My past 2 phones were Notes, I'm a big fan of the SPen. I'm always up for change & consider others. I do look at phones other than Samsung whenever I get a new one. But LG is not one of them. I'm personally not a fan of any of their products except my room AC is LG, their phones & TVs, they never catch my eye. Quality & features seem lacking to me. Maybe part of it is the experience with them that I saw when I worked in OEM electronic repair. We always said that LG stood for Low Grade. Haha
It sounds like you are the type to get bored of phones & need to change often. In the US for T-Mobile we have a Jump On Demand program where after 18 months or something like that you can trade in your phone for some new model. Great for people who like to have the latest & greatest. Do they offer anything like that where you are? It will help your wallet to switch phones often.

Hahaha. I understand you. For me, LG has always been that brand which has come very close to replacing my Samsung phones But never succeeded. I have an LG 4K tv which I absolutely love. As far as the decision of buying the V30, I haven't made up my mind completely yet. I wanted to know from someone who has used both and if they had a strong reason not to switch from the Note 8, apart from its S pen feature of course. I am still in 2 minds actually, since I will be wasting a lot of money and Also, if I regret the decision later, I will definitely not be able to spend more to get back to the Note 8 for now. Haha.
shouren04 said:
I agree, if that's how you feel go for it. Even if someone tries to convince you not to, you already have the thought & may not agree. But if someone tells you reasons why you should you'll probably agree because you have that thought already. People look for assurance to make big decisions, it's human nature. But this decisi9n is yours, it's your personal preference, everyone is different & nothing wrong with that.
My past 2 phones were Notes, I'm a big fan of the SPen. I'm always up for change & consider others. I do look at phones other than Samsung whenever I get a new one. But LG is not one of them. I'm personally not a fan of any of their products except my room AC is LG, their phones & TVs, they never catch my eye. Quality & features seem lacking to me. Maybe part of it is the experience with them that I saw when I worked in OEM electronic repair. We always said that LG stood for Low Grade. Haha
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shouren04 said:
It sounds like you are the type to get bored of phones & need to change often. In the US for T-Mobile we have a Jump On Demand program where after 18 months or something like that you can trade in your phone for some new model. Great for people who like to have the latest & greatest. Do they offer anything like that where you are? It will help your wallet to switch phones often.
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Hahahaha. Absolutely!! You got me. I am that kind of person who get bored with phones very often. And unfortunately here in India we don't have such schemes. What a shame!!

To be fair I've never played with a LG TV so I can't really say I don't like them. LG crossed my mind before buying the Note 8. Then I decided to buy an Exynos Note 8 cause I can't live without custom recovery & root cause we only have Snapdragon in the US. But then again if it comes to the day when that's not an option I may switch from Samsung even if not available on other OEMs. There are some Huawei phones that seem nice, I think they will be a great competitor in due time if not already.
That sucks that resale value is low where you are. How about selling on ebay? I've never sold my old phones. Luckily I'm not the type to upgrade phones every year, that would definitely not be good for my wallet as flagship phones cost way too much these days.

Unfortunately, It's all the same here whether you sell it on eBay or any other platform. Nevertheless, i might not buy the V30 if i dont sell my Note 8 for a decent price. Lets see
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To be fair I've never played with a LG TV so I can't really say I don't like them. LG crossed my mind before buying the Note 8. Then I decided to buy an Exynos Note 8 cause I can't live without custom recovery & root cause we only have Snapdragon in the US. But then again if it comes to the day when that's not an option I may switch from Samsung even if not available on other OEMs. There are some Huawei phones that seem nice, I think they will be a great competitor in due time if not already.
That sucks that resale value is low where you are. How about selling on ebay? I've never sold my old phones. Luckily I'm not the type to upgrade phones every year, that would definitely not be good for my wallet as flagship phones cost way too much these days.
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shri080 said:
Hahahaha. Absolutely!! You got me. I am that kind of person who get bored with phones very often. And unfortunately here in India we don't have such schemes. What a shame!!
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Actually on Jump on Demand in teh US, you can trade for other new flagship devices several times a year - the 18 months is the lease term.
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OP do as you please. Your money and your choice. V30 excellent phone. LG blows away EVERY phone in audio away. The new LG V30 coming out soon. The LG V30 ThinQ? LG sales have been pretty bad. So now they do slight upgrade from last year flagship huh? Even the new V30 only thing it has over Note 8 is better chip and audio.
Regular V30 only had better audio then Note 8. I do agree V30 looks better. The curved screen is worthless. I'd still take Note 8 over V30. I use to be a die hard LG fan. If you do rock LG stick with V series! There other phones have crap build quality.
Worst build quality I've ever dealt with. Stick to V20, V30, V? Etc.
Even the V series is slightly risky according to some and this lawsuit below. Sales have been so bad rumors that LG canned LG G7. Kinda concerning to invest in a company like that? LG made Pixel 2 screens which is having a bad time with screens.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th.../17048574/lg-v30s-price-release-date-mwc-2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/lg-bootloop-lawsuit-settlement-backtrack/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...s-reportedly-scrapped-the-upcoming-lg-g7/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...6889854/pixel-2-xl-lg-display-oled-blue-shift

So, i could finally come to a decision after i went back to the store again today and played with the V30 for good amount of time. Well, i did one important thing before going to the store, which is, replaced my Note 8 official protective standing case with a local 360 degree case. This had already made a lot of difference in how i felt the Note 8 in the hand. So, while i was checking out the V30 today at the store, i did all the possible tests on how better or worse the screen is compared to the Note 8 and how good or bad the camera is and over all how the feel of holding it is, against the Note 8. But when i finally started typing on the V30, trust me, it literally felt like a toy. I had not felt that way until that moment. I immediately went back to my Note 8 and typed on it and i knew i had the better phone with me. Also, like i said, i had changed the case to a much lighter one which had already made the difference. But when i did try typing on the V30, i knew why i had paid those extra dollars for the Note 8. Happily came back home and not going to probably check any other phones until the Note 9 or Pixel 3 XL comes out. Thanks again for all the responses. My Note is here to Stay for longer
Edit: Changing the case to a lighter one would have made it more vulnerable to breaking, but hey, what is the insurance for after all?

Good decision

shri080 said:
So, i could finally come to a decision after i went back to the store again today and played with the V30 for good amount of time. Well, i did one important thing before going to the store, which is, replaced my Note 8 official protective standing case with a local 360 degree case. This had already made a lot of difference in how i felt the Note 8 in the hand. So, while i was checking out the V30 today at the store, i did all the possible tests on how better or worse the screen is compared to the Note 8 and how good or bad the camera is and over all how the feel of holding it is, against the Note 8. But when i finally started typing on the V30, trust me, it literally felt like a toy. I had not felt that way until that moment. I immediately went back to my Note 8 and typed on it and i knew i had the better phone with me. Also, like i said, i had changed the case to a much lighter one which had already made the difference. But when i did try typing on the V30, i knew why i had paid those extra dollars for the Note 8. Happily came back home and not going to probably check any other phones until the Note 9 or Pixel 3 XL comes out. Thanks again for all the responses. My Note is here to Stay for longer
Edit: Changing the case to a lighter one would have made it more vulnerable to breaking, but hey, what is the insurance for after all?
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Good choice you won't regret it. Idk man the rumors so far with Note 9 and Pixel 3 Xl, nothing to write home about. Note 10/ Samsung X/ Pixel 4 XL= True Upgrade.

Nick216ohio said:
Good choice you won't regret it. Idk man the rumors so far with Note 9 and Pixel 3 Xl, nothing to write home about. Note 10/ Samsung X/ Pixel 4 XL= True Upgrade.
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That's why I don't bother upgrading every year, waste of money IMO. Usually need 2 generations to see worthy differences. Same with Android versions, need to 2 letter versions to see noticeable differences. That's why I don't understand why everyone was so anxious to get Oreo. Now that it's here, nothing exciting about it & different than all the past Oreo reviews.

shouren04 said:
That's why I don't bother upgrading every year, waste of money IMO. Usually need 2 generations to see worthy differences. Same with Android versions, need to 2 letter versions to see noticeable differences. That's why I don't understand why everyone was so anxious to get Oreo. Now that it's here, nothing exciting about it & different than all the past Oreo reviews.
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Agreed 100%. 1k a year for a phone? No thanks. $500 not to bad. Yeah Oreo doesn't seem much different. We should get Android P, but that will be a while. Like you pointed out usually takes 2 generations to see a worthy difference. In regards to new features and better specs. Some people want newest phone though. For those people do as you will. Others that on the fence really read into what we're saying.

NOTE 9 feasibility and reason for upgrades as relating to the note 8

Will it be a glorified s9 plus, and will it be worth dumping 1100 after taxes on after all the hype and lies. The so called super smartphone s9 plus is ending up as the same troubling device as the note 8 became after false promises began when released.
Hmm, lets see, add stereo speakers AR emojis, and so called better than 5000.00 dslr cameras. Are people that disillusioned, or gullable, or is it an addiction for those without a laptop? NOW being said s10 with larger display than the note 8. Where's the truth in all this. Honestly, after 2 note 7s, s8plus and note 8, there must be a breakeven point.
before we know it, one will need a car note to finance a mobile phone. I LOVE my note 8, and i see easily 2 yrs before obsolescence. They way they speak now, its useless devices trading in after 6 months. Insult to injury, 2 or 300 max trade in value of note 8.
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dejan youre on my ignore list for good reason. not one reply to any of my posts are non combative. why are you so nasty. Theres other sites that will work for you like combat games and the like.

Op, you are really CONFUSED, the vast majority here is happy about their note 8, I really do not care about what will or will not be the note 9, what lies are you talking about? The hype is made by people outside Samsung, anyway, I am very happy with my note 8, I will skip the 9, as for the high prices, good stuff is always expensive, it is useless to complain about prices when there are so many cheaper options available, it is like complaining about why a ferrari or lamborghini car is expensive, if you can not afford something, look for something else, but complaining is plain useless

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Op, you are really CONFUSED, the vast majority here is happy about their note 8, I really do not care about what will or will not be the note 9, what lies are you talking about? The hype is made by people outside Samsung, anyway, I am very happy with my note 8, I will skip the 9, as for the high prices, good stuff is always expensive, it is useless to complain about prices when there are so many cheaper options available, it is like complaining about why a ferrari or lamborghini car is expensive, if you can not afford something, look for something else, but complaining is plain useless
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thanks for your opinion, but the topic is note 9. im happy with mine. any thoughts on note 9. hope you read the topic correctly

still waiting on feedback for note 9 vs note 8

imsoconfused said:
Will it be a glorified s9 plus, and will it be worth dumping 1100 after taxes on after all the hype and lies. The so called super smartphone s9 plus is ending up as the same troubling device as the note 8 became after false promises began when released.
Hmm, lets see, add stereo speakers AR emojis, and so called better than 5000.00 dslr cameras. Are people that disillusioned, or gullable, or is it an addiction for those without a laptop? NOW being said s10 with larger display than the note 8. Where's the truth in all this. Honestly, after 2 note 7s, s8plus and note 8, there must be a breakeven point.
before we know it, one will need a car note to finance a mobile phone. I LOVE my note 8, and i see easily 2 yrs before obsolescence. They way they speak now, its useless devices after 6 months. Insult to injury, 2 or 300 max trade in value of note 8.
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Don't be surprised by the hype around new devices, that's marketing . Note 9 will be good but I personally won't need to upgrade my note 8 for another year at least. Others may want the latest and greatest which is fine too. Some are also coming from older devices. Companies market, and buyers decide what they like. Yet for some reason there is so much added disdain in your post. False promises? Gullable? Way too many value judgments there. Winol is right. Pointless to lament that part imo.

sefrcoko said:
Dude don't be surprised by hype, it's how marketing works. Note 9 will be good but I personally won't need to upgrade my note 8 for another year at least. Others may want the latest and greatest. Companies market, and buyers decide what they like. So much misplaced disdain in your post. Dejan and winol are right. Pointless thread imo.
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thank you and no its not worthless to me. its informative and it helps others.

I've stopped buying The S-line for quite a while now ever since the removable battery wasn't in. My last S device was the S5 and that was a great device. I've used the Nexus 6P, Moto Z play, OnePlus 5, PIxel 2 xl, and now the Note 8. In my honest opinion the Note 8 will never be worth it's value. It could've used a bigger battery....
Pretty much to sum it up, Note 8 is a good phone. I cannot dispute that after using all these different brands. It's solid in terms of what a power user can want from a phone. Will it be worth upgrading? It truly depends on what the next Note 9 will have and the preference of the consumer.
In my taste, Samsung could put a bigger battery, more software support, and less bloatware/gimmicks.

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I've stopped buying The S-line for quite a while now ever since the removable battery wasn't in. My last S device was the S5 and that was a great device. I've used the Nexus 6P, Moto Z play, OnePlus 5, PIxel 2 xl, and now the Note 8. In my honest opinion the Note 8 will never be worth it's value. It could've used a bigger battery....
Pretty much to sum it up, Note 8 is a good phone. I cannot dispute that after using all these different brands. It's solid in terms of what a power user can want from a phone. Will it be worth upgrading? It truly depends on what the next Note 9 will have and the preference of the consumer.
In my taste, Samsung could put a bigger battery, more software support, and less bloatware/gimmicks.
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thank you for your in depth review and candor on the issue, its very sad that history shows they promised us the ultimate device, only to bring the S series into the fray to claim and assume the s9 plus is the nest device on the planet which we know is a PR move, and shows the s9 line as slow on sales again.
Note 9 as in price tradeoff, I haven't yet seen any viable worthy incentives to see the NR as the future superior device, only to have the S10 to be more advanced. seems sammy keeps tripping over their shoelaces while trying to win the smartphone race. Funnier yet is the iphone next will probably come out with a better camera than samsung. If samy would give us a SUBSTANTIAL incentive to upgrade, it might be worthwhile.

Nothing will be the ”ultimate device” as different folks want/need different things! Also, it is all a bit premature until the Note 9 arrives and we can read the reviews and experiences of an actual phone!
Personally the best phone for me was the Note 2, it was really innovative and I loved it. I'm very happy with my SM-N9500 and have no intention of changing for a good while yet ... even if I could afford to!
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thank you for your in depth review and candor on the issue, its very sad that history shows they promised us the ultimate device, only to bring the S series into the fray to claim and assume the s9 plus is the nest device on the planet which we know is a PR move, and shows the s9 line as slow on sales again.
Note 9 as in price tradeoff, I haven't yet seen any viable worthy incentives to see the NR as the future superior device, only to have the S10 to be more advanced. seems sammy keeps tripping over their shoelaces while trying to win the smartphone race. Funnier yet is the iphone next will probably come out with a better camera than samsung. If samy would give us a SUBSTANTIAL incentive to upgrade, it might be worthwhile.
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Well Samsung will always be king of displays. I don't think anyone can dispute that Samsung devices are beautiful with their curved edges and shiny glass backs. They always think of ways to get people to purchase their new generation of smartphones. It's just how the world is. We see something new we want it, but don't need it.
The Note 8 is more than enough for today's social media apps and lifestyle choices.. whether it be businessman down to gangster rapper.

Dchoi229 said:
I've stopped buying The S-line for quite a while now ever since the removable battery wasn't in. My last S device was the S5 and that was a great device. I've used the Nexus 6P, Moto Z play, OnePlus 5, PIxel 2 xl, and now the Note 8. In my honest opinion the Note 8 will never be worth it's value. It could've used a bigger battery....
Pretty much to sum it up, Note 8 is a good phone. I cannot dispute that after using all these different brands. It's solid in terms of what a power user can want from a phone. Will it be worth upgrading? It truly depends on what the next Note 9 will have and the preference of the consumer.
In my taste, Samsung could put a bigger battery, more software support, and less bloatware/gimmicks.
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Nothing will be the ”ultimate device” as different folks want/need different things! Also, it is all a bit premature until the Note 9 arrives and we can read the reviews and experiences of an actual phone!
Personally the best phone for me was the Note 2, it was really innovative and I loved it. I'm very happy with my SM-N9500 and have no intention of changing for a good while yet ... even if I could afford to!
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wow way back in the days, note 2!

Dchoi229 said:
Well Samsung will always be king of displays. I don't think anyone can dispute that Samsung devices are beautiful with their curved edges and shiny glass backs. They always think of ways to get people to purchase their new generation of smartphones. It's just how the world is. We see something new we want it, but don't need it.
The Note 8 is more than enough for today's social media apps and lifestyle choices.. whether it be businessman down to gangster rapper.
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great wording there!

I will probably get a Pixel 3 XL instead of the Note9.
I like the Note8 but I think the new one will be very similar. It's fun to try new things.
I had a Nexus 6P before that I miss sometimes.

As it stands for me today I plan on staying with the Note 8. I jumped back and forth a few times with the Pixel 2 and 2 XL and the Note won the battle. The only thing that I would have liked more is a flat display, other than that the Note is my choice. I read the bible several times a day with it, listen to online sermons and take it to church instead of a paper one and so on. I'm still getting a bit over three days between charges. I can't find a legitimate reason to spend another grand on a phone, to me that's just a waste. As for the Note 9 specs I haven't seen any from Samsung so it's just speculation and wish lists to me. I'm sure it will be nice but I'll get over it and keep enjoying this one.

so far the consensus is to stick and stay note 8.

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Will it be a glorified s9 plus, and will it be worth dumping 1100 after taxes on after all the hype and lies. The so called super smartphone s9 plus is ending up as the same troubling device as the note 8 became after false promises began when released.
Hmm, lets see, add stereo speakers AR emojis, and so called better than 5000.00 dslr cameras. Are people that disillusioned, or gullable, or is it an addiction for those without a laptop? NOW being said s10 with larger display than the note 8. Where's the truth in all this. Honestly, after 2 note 7s, s8plus and note 8, there must be a breakeven point.
before we know it, one will need a car note to finance a mobile phone. I LOVE my note 8, and i see easily 2 yrs before obsolescence. They way they speak now, its useless devices after 6 months. Insult to injury, 2 or 300 max trade in value of note 8.
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If it's a minor update then I'm not upgrading. Not unless they use a 6.5" display then I might.
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If it's a minor update then I'm not upgrading. Not unless they use a 6.5" display then I might.
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would you believe the hype already starting early with the s10, yes s10 plus will be 6.5 its a pr trick they are plotting. do they ever cease with deception

I wasn't aware of the s10 specs or hype .
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would you believe the hype already starting early with the s10, yes s10 plus will be 6.5 its a pr trick they are plotting. do they ever cease with deception
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Note 9 quick charge

I can't believe Samsung again made this phone with the same old 2.0 QC Wtf? No finger print scaner in the display. Same old design as last years model and only 2.0 QC and only Android 8.0 what a shame. The only pro is a bigger battery that's it. I don't care about the camera or the BT S Pen.

Then don't buy it, it's a simple as that. There's really no need to create a topic under Questions and Answers rambling about how much the phone is a disappointment to you.

if it wasnt for Samsung pay, I would not buy Samsung. where's the F is LG pay ?

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Then don't buy it, it's a simple as that. There's really no need to create a topic under Questions and Answers rambling about how much the phone is a disappointment to you.
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I am not buying it I will stick with the Note 8. Next I will create a topic any time I want don't read it if you don't like me making a topic about the failures of the Note 9. Don't get mad because you got suckered into a clone of last years phone.

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I am not buying it I will stick with the Note 8. Next I will create a topic any time I want don't read it if you don't like me making a topic about the failures of the Note 9. Don't get mad because you got suckered into a clone of last years phone.
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Great points, spoken like a true juvenile. Mad? Not at all. I was merely stating the fact that you posted in the Question & Answer section and what you submitted was neither a question nor an answer. Maybe next time try posting in the Guides, News and Discussions sub forum. Regardless, I don't care nor will bother reading any other useless rants you decided to post going forward. Save those for your social media followers as I'm sure you have a legion of people who are so eager to read your opinion on the Note 9.

this phone charges in ~1h40min from 0% to 100%, and after 30mins charging i have ~50%, good enough for me

Lol @ charging speeds. ?
Phone charges plenty fast. Lasts 2 days sometimes.

jason504 said:
I am not buying it I will stick with the Note 8. Next I will create a topic any time I want don't read it if you don't like me making a topic about the failures of the Note 9. Don't get mad because you got suckered into a clone of last years phone.
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The 9 smashes the note 8 off the planet for many reasons. 512gb storage, faster, smoother, more battery life, more ram, better screen, much much better audio and speakers, better camera. I am sure there are more reasons. Note 8 sucks so bad.

Jonathan-H said:
The 9 smashes the note 8 off the planet for many reasons. 512gb storage, faster, smoother, more battery life, more ram, better screen, much much better audio and speakers, better camera. I am sure there are more reasons. Note 8 sucks so bad.
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512gb? I don't even use my 64gb or my 256gb card in my note 8. Better screen? Barely better speakers yes not a big deal. Camera I could care less about I take about 1 pic a year. Better battery Ok. That's it for 1,000 dollars? Wow and it looks exactly like my phone. I would take a design change in a fingerprint scanner in display over all that other stuff that you just mentioned

You don't have to try to convince me that it's an upgrade worth $1,200 from the Note 8 cause it's not. Also multiple phones are about to drop with Android 9.0. The Note 9 will get 9.0 in about another year good luck

Samsung threw a couple of low end features in the Note9 because they didn't want a repeat of the S9 flop. You know the reason why it flopped was because it looked exactly like the S8 like the Note 9 does.

The Note 9 is a money grab phone for Samsung. They just put that out fast to focus on the 10 which will have all the features the Note9 should have.

it's ridiculous to charge 1000$ for a phone with outdated technology quick charge 2.0
that's like buying a 70000$ sport car that goes 0-60 in 8 seconds. WTF

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it's ridiculous to charge 1000$ for a phone with outdated technology quick charge 2.0
that's like buying a 70000$ sport car that goes 0-60 in 8 seconds. WTF
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I see it as a sports car that goes plenty fast and 40 mpg. QC 2.0 is fine. I don't want my sealed battery getting hot and bothered for 2 years. Some of us aren't renting phones for a year to get the next big thing.

I'm plenty happy with mine. Yes, this is what the Note 8 should have been last year. But since I got the Note 8 more than half off due to the previous Note 7 fiasco, it was a no brainer to trade the 8 in to take advantage of the latest promo for the 9. It's looks are not improved, but boy its performance sure is!

jason504 said:
You don't have to try to convince me that it's an upgrade worth $1,200 from the Note 8 cause it's not. Also multiple phones are about to drop with Android 9.0. The Note 9 will get 9.0 in about another year good luck
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no single iteration is worth the full price to upgrade to. no need to have anyone convince anyone else of this fact.
now since you won't be upgrading, goodbye.

Dude. Why did OP start a post whining about QC 2.0 then half the replies to his post are him grasping at straws dissing the note9. Weird. Many facts were known about note9 and people are still buying it. Yes it is pricey. But Samsung finally pulled off an iterative update with minor details to perfect the minor flaws. Many of us have not been paying full price with trades or leases. I for one paid full price and don't regret it because of how close to perfect this phone is. Probably last time I pay this much for a flagship though. Hardware and software have been getting so good it would be ludicrous going forward to not wait a few months for price to come down and OEMs egos and greed to be put in check.
(As an aside, it might be possible we could see Made in Africa soon. There are already items like clothes and minor things being made there. China has developed enough that they're looking for cheaper labor and have been investing in Africa. I have mixed feelings on this but the West neglected their relationship and China has been putting schools there. I mention this because you should keep an eye on it for so many reasons. I don't know if China will move smartphone factories there but they are putting cell and smartphones in the hands of Africans which will have an effect that is hard to predict. Waiting to see Africans speaking Mandarin become common.)

jason504 said:
I am not buying it I will stick with the Note 8. Next I will create a topic any time I want don't read it if you don't like me making a topic about the failures of the Note 9. Don't get mad because you got suckered into a clone of last years phone.
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I'm getting about 50 percent better battery life. It's faster, massive memory, more ram and has more features which I will use. It isn't a clone it's an upgrade. If you dont want to upgrade then dont if you cant afford to then too bad, get a better job. Dont come on forums crying and calling people suckers who want to and can afford to upgrade if they want to. I had the 4 the 7 the 8 and now the 9. I will be due a network upgrade when the 10 is out and I'll be getting that too.

Can't afford it please I can buy you and 10 Note 9s if I so please. I don't buy phones that are thrown out there. You me and every one else was expecting much more from the Note 9 so don't act like it's just me. I will wait for the real upgrade 10. Price doesn't concern me when it's worth it. You know another company that puts out phones that look exactly alike and hold back features Apple why? Because they can get away with it and so will Samsung as long as suckers like you buy these phones.
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I'm getting about 50 percent better battery life. It's faster, massive memory, more ram and has more features which I will use. It isn't a clone it's an upgrade. If you dont want to upgrade then dont if you cant afford to then too bad, get a better job. Dont come on forums crying and calling people suckers who want to and can afford to upgrade if they want to. I had the 4 the 7 the 8 and now the 9. I will be due a network upgrade when the 10 is out and I'll be getting that too.
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jason504 said:
Can't afford it please I can buy you and 10 Note 9s if I so please. I don't buy phones that are thrown out there. You me and every one else was expecting much more from the Note 9 so don't act like it's just me. I will wait for the real upgrade 10. Price doesn't concern me when it's worth it. You know another company that puts out phones that look exactly alike and hold back features Apple why? Because they can get away with it and so will Samsung as long as suckers like you buy these phones.
They have been doing the same thing for years. Innovate, refine, innovate, refine. If you thought that the note 9 was going to be some radical concept then you're a silly boy.
Ps. I doubt you could buy me a sandwich judging by your massive tantrums. If you ask Santa nicely I'm sure he will bring you a note 12.
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Galaxy s10 plus vs 6T...thoughts?

Based off of what we know so far is there anyone contemplating acquiring this phone over the beloved 6T?

Pre ordering Monday for sure [emoji16]
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coming from s7 to op6t, i would say:
if you're planning to switch to samsung, buy s9/s9+. otherwise stay on op6t.
since you're here, you know what custom roms are. and if you're a cfw-lover (AOSP/LOS-based) like me, you cant switch to a newer samsung phone because it will takes a half/whole year (#ExynosSux).

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coming from s7 to op6t, i would say:
if you're planning to switch to samsung, buy s9/s9+. otherwise stay on op6t.
since you're here, you know what custom roms are. and if you're a cfw-lover (AOSP/LOS-based) like me, you cant switch to a newer samsung phone because it will takes a half/whole year (#ExynosSux).
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I have had the Note 8, S9, S9+ and the Note 9 already and I really don't mess with changing ROMS any longer so for me those things you mentioned aren't a really big factor me. But I can appreciate your feedback!

gthmcty1 said:
I have had the Note 8, S9, S9+ and the Note 9 already and I really don't mess with changing ROMS any longer so for me those things you mentioned aren't a really big factor me. But I can appreciate your feedback!
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so then go for it. Its a good phone. For me not so much difference to the s9/+ but still a sammy phone (myself a sammy fanboy / ive had s2, s3, Note 2 ,s5, s7)

I had the Note, 1,2,4,7,8 and galaxy S6 and galaxy s6 edge. Somewhere in between I had the Axon 7 after the Note 7 debacle.
I have to say I have not loved a phone like my first smartphone the iPhone 3g and the original phablet the Dell Streak.
All that has changed once I got the OnePlus 6T. This phone is great and most of all the software experience is top notch. I hated the Samsung phones always slown down after time. I am glad I made the change to the OnePlus. If I upgrade this year it will be to the OnePlus 7T. :laugh:

Only to be outdone by some other phone in 2-3 months, then THAT phone will be outdone in 2-3 months and so on.
If you have the OP6T, or pretty much any phone in the last couple of years, and, you haven't jacked it up by screwing
with something you don't know how to do, and it is working properly, why waste your money on a SMALL improvement
in performance, that 99% of users won't see, unless they are stuck in benchmarks.

Ummm..... This device has it's own forum already. So why don't you go post these questions there instead.

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Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.

tech_head said:
Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.
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LMAO....ok then!

I came to the 6T from an S9+. I have no regrets at all!

I had the first Galaxy S. Felt completely let down by Samsung's so called upgrades that made the phone less and less usable. I swore to never get a Samsung, so no, not getting one

I always hated Samsung but the new UI is rather nice.

Had the S7 Edge while the specs were nice the OS is still garbage and waiting 6 months for Major update after it's pushed to AOSP it a joke.. Especially when you pay top $..
And Exynos is inferior to SnapDragon + basically any dev support for the SoC sucks..

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It's a hard no for me. That hole punch that cuts into videos and of course the price tag. I'd go back to the S9 or G7 or V40.

tech_head said:
Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.
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Basically my thoughts lol.

Same old. Nothing really new or exciting . anything good will be on most of the phones this year anyway . And the double cut out is horrible. Much worse than a teardrop notch

The camera takes good photos based off people opinions, I like the different colored backs, fingerprint scanner is interesting, the camera punch is an interesting take on the notch (would be painful to see it during full screen video), price is outrageous, 1tb of storage only supported on certain devices (and is it really needed), and the One UI I could get into. The price alone will keep me away from it, although I am tempted to trade in my iPhone X for it.
Really interested in the fold. The concept of having a foldable tablet captures my attention but will see what other companies come up with and life cycle of a niche product.

Anytime you want to buy something new you might want to ask yourself:
1: Do I need it?
2: Is it worth it (usually involves money)?
3: What i am ok with if I look the other way?
Thank me later if you can answer on this 3 simple questions. Some people are hard fans some people haters. People in the middle go to OnePlus lol which brings them back to that circle anyway because they become fans or haters and there are people in the middle. I call it "circle of lifetime death". Whatever you go with it should be important to you only because in the end you are the one who will be using it.
I have been OnePlus user since day 1 (OnePlus One) because they made affordable devices and currently I am using 6T. For my own perspective I do like the new Samsung S10 line but it is not really worth the money for me.

Does it come with a lanyard to put through that hole so you can carry your phone with it?
Oh nevermind that's for the camera.
The hole punch design is the worst thing ever, it just looks so out of place.