Latest Verizon firmware - Moto X Q&A

I suppose there's no way that this most recent update created some sort of hole that was previously patched to unlock the bootloader if I'm on 4.4.4?
Just wishful thinking, creating discussion haha.
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cpspecial said:
I suppose there's no way that this most recent update created some sort of hole that was previously patched to unlock the bootloader if I'm on 4.4.4?
Just wishful thinking, creating discussion haha.
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So you are asking if this new patch to 212.166.3 build KXA21.12-L1.26-3 might have introduced some new flaw or vulnerability which could be exploited to unlock the bootloader for those which Sunshine doesn't work?
It would need to be investigated. Not sure how long that could take, or if anyone would even consider taking the time to do it since the Lollipop update in the works.

There's always a chance that a new exploit can be found when a new firmware is released, but it's not a good chance.

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So Should I Get the Moto X?

I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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lowvolt1 said:
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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****. That's what I was afraid of.
It a great device either way
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Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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Even without root this phone is amazing! This is coming from someone who used to flash a new rom daily. Now like you, I still prefer root for certain apps but this phone is so good it would be just as enjoyable without root. You might get lucky and get one that's been in the cabinet for a couple of weeks then you could root it. If not I'd still get it. I would bet we will have a way to root the newer software before long anyway.
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There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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theraffman said:
There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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A while back he said he had another way to root but would hold it back until 4.3+ update. That's cool he's pushing it out sooner... Hopefully the exploit doesn't get patched in the next update though, I understand the reason for waiting on these things, it's like playing chess.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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thekendog said:
Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
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Yes.
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1ManWolfePack said:
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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I was just going off of what jcase had previously said... But he was probably thinking the next big update was 4.3 which was still jb, he probably decide to release since we're now going straight to kk.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
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I would be very careful of the Dev edition. With carriers you get good support and exchanges. With Moto, the support is horrible and no chance for an exchange.
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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there is an exploit for the comera ota update now. It is not that complicated if you toy with your phone and know how to use adb and run some simple commands. There is a video for it and another thread that gives you instructions for windows for those that really don't know how to run things in cmd prompt.

Root?

So with some of these phones you've had to downgrade to root. Would that be possible with the cc
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skeet43169 said:
So with some of these phones you've had to downgrade to root. Would that be possible with the cc
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No. See 4.b in the FAQ.
Because only the initial released bootloader (with build 12072) was vulnerable, once any Google OTA update is applied it will patch the vulnerability in the bootloader and non-Google-signed code will not run.
To more directly answer the question: No, a downgrade is not possible.
Once updated, there is no mechanism on the CC to flash back to "stock ROM" like there is with most Android phone recoveries. Google probably didn't see the point in a stock recovery method: If a customer's Chromecast bricks due to an update, just throw another $35 replacement unit at the customer. It's not like eating the cost on a ~$500 replacement Android device.
That makes since thanks for the reply
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Bootloader is unlockable again

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/16/motorola-bootloader-unlock-razr-hd-towelroot/
Haven't tried this myself (already unlocked)
Supposedly this method will work on kitkat 4.4.2, and will allow the use of motopocalypse
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Doing this tonight before moto patches it
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Can this be used on JB stock?
sherpajosh said:
Can this be used on JB stock?
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Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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Leraeniesh said:
Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
Coronado is dead said:
However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
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Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Leraeniesh said:
Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
Coronado is dead said:
Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
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If you update everything to 4.2.2, unlock, then flash your modem, kernel and system to 4.1.2 you might have success.
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Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
romma1 said:
Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
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The XT907 is surprisingly capable for its age.
Hoping that Verizon launches an LTE variant of the Moto G. It's a worthy successor to the RAZR M.
was this thread really necessary? the page u linked to links to a thread on xda in the razr m general section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
Dr. Mario said:
Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
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not all work on kitkat..here's a link to @dhacker29 folder http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/ ....this one works if you have a Razr M on kitkat:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img
Thanks! The Kit Kat version of TWRP works!
Now, it's time to rape the bloatwares.

4.4.3 root help

just got my custom moto x and i tryed towel root and mac ox 2.02 verson somehow still no root can someone lend a had please
g4ess said:
just got my custom moto x and i tryed towel root and mac ox 2.02 verson somehow still no root can someone lend a had please
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Try this instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059/post54336978
thank you
samwathegreat said:
Try this instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059/post54336978
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i did this but i feel as though it was patched cause i am on 4.4.3
g4ess said:
i did this but i feel as though it was patched cause i am on 4.4.3
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Yep, we had suspected that 4.4.3 patched the exploits. We pretty much KNOW that 4.4.4 is completely immune to them. It was worth a shot though... :/
Thanks for the confirmation. Just for reference, which variant do you have?
samwathegreat said:
Yep, we had suspected that 4.4.3 patched the exploits. We pretty much KNOW that 4.4.4 is completely immune to them. It was worth a shot though... :/
Thanks for the confirmation. Just for reference, which variant do you have?
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is it possible to downgrade to 4.4.2
Lol guinea pig ?
g4ess said:
is it possible to downgrade to 4.4.2
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No you never want to downgrade unless you want a brick
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Lol guinea pig ?
No you never want to downgrade unless you want a brick
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why would it brick just asking ?
samwathegreat said:
Yep, we had suspected that 4.4.3 patched the exploits. We pretty much KNOW that 4.4.4 is completely immune to them. It was worth a shot though... :/
Thanks for the confirmation. Just for reference, which variant do you have?
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I have the AT&T usa dev
I have the xt1053 model if that means anythingb
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g4ess said:
I have the xt1053 model if that means anythingb
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You -could- attempt to downgrade, but realize that it is NOT ADVISED, and you CAN/WILL Likely brick your device, either now or in the future.
If I can't talk you out of it, whatever you do, DO NOT flash gpt.bin or motoboot.img from the 4.4.2 SBF.
If you downgrade anyways (ignoring our advice) and it works, realize that if you accept an OTA in the future, you will likely brick at that point.
If you are successful, you probably will be able to root using the new exploit, but DO NOT recommend other users to do it! (You don't want to be responsible for others' bricking their devices, right?)
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Good Luck.
thanks man I just did some reading on the xt1053 model the boot loader was not updated from 4.4.2 -4.4.3 so I feel I am safe trying this for now
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g4ess said:
thanks man I just did some reading on the xt1053 model the boot loader was not updated from 4.4.2 -4.4.3 so I feel I am safe trying this for now
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Even so, DON'T flash gpt.bin from the 4.4.2 SBF
DON'T use RSD-LITE (it WILL attempt to flash gpt.bin)
And don't say I didn't warn you.
g4ess said:
I have the xt1053 model if that means anythingb
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Dude!!!! I wish I noticed this earlier, but if you have an XT1053, (and not XT1058), you can UNLOCK the BOOTLOADER, for FREE on Motorola's Website!!!
Unlocking the BL is far superior to -any- of these 'exploits'. It will allow you to have PERMANENT root, even on the latest (and future) updates.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Gosh, I hope you didn't actually try to downgrade.....if you did try, you should download the ENTIRE 4.4.3 SBF, flash back to 100% stock 4.4.3, and unlock your BL. Then flash TWRP custom recovery, and it will root your device for you. Its that easy.
Write protect will be disabled too! So you can write to /system, and root will be persistent. (You DON'T get that using any of the exploits)
Good Luck!!! :good:
g4ess said:
thanks man I just did some reading on the xt1053 model the boot loader was not updated from 4.4.2 -4.4.3 so I feel I am safe trying this for now
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bootloader (motoboot.img) might not have changed, but partition table (GPT.BIN) did. so the brick risk is there.
As @samwathegreat mentioned, since you have the XT1053, you can get your bootloader unlock code directly from Moto's web site and easily root after unlocking your bootloader, no matter what Moto ROM should be on your phone. (even 4.4.3 and 4.4.4, and future).
The only thing... If you have a real Dev Edition (says Developer Edition on the back, has a black face, woven white back) XT1053, unlocking the bootloader does not void your warranty. If you have any other XT1053 just requesting the code to unlock your bootloader DOES void the warranty.
g4ess said:
I have the AT&T usa dev
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Hmmm... I laughed a bit after seeing those three letters at the end
doitinthedirt said:
Hmmm... I laughed a bit after seeing those three letters at the end
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Yeah, I was confused as well. "dev" could mean "developer", OR "device"?
Also confusing is that the XT1053 is NOT an AT&T device at all! (Although it CAN be used on AT&T - it's not an AT&T-branded device....which would be the XT1058).
?!?
Just use this guide.....first the unlocking your bootloader section. Then the root unlocked bootloader section.
Easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
well do this when I get home today thanks for all the help guys'.
also so is this device unlocked since its not branded att
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g4ess said:
well do this when I get home today thanks for all the help guys'.
also so is this device unlocked since its not branded att
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It is SIM-Unlocked already, yes. This means you can use it on T-Mobile, AT&T, or any other GSM carrier.
It is NOT bootloader unlocked until you follow the steps in the link @KJ Posted. It IS Bootloader-unlockABLE, but you must do the steps (request code & use fastboot to unlock) in order to get it "Boot-Loader unlockED".
See: "What Devices Can Unlock Their Bootloader" in the thread @KJ linked you to.
Good Luck

Will the S6 have the same restrictions as the S5 (bootloader)

Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
KeithGS said:
Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
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the same.. wont have it and we need root first lol
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So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
Correct. It is likely that this version with the locked boot loader won't get custom roms any time soon, if ever.
KeithGS said:
So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
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Correct. All I need is just root and I will be fine.
Samsung could release a dev edition but you will never see official upgrades or firmware releases on a dev edition.
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