Greetings all,
I'm finally fed up and thinking of installing a custom ROM for my Moto X. My question is that will I be able to flash stock 4.4.4 after installing NX or CM12 Lollipop ROMs or be able to accept the OTA in the future? Will downgrading brick my device?
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The downgrade is a risk, but with some patience it is done easily. First of all you need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery and flash the CM11 first, because you're on stock then you flash the CM12. Now about the downgrade, you can flash the original recovery again, lock the bootloader and install the official package directly by the sotck recovery or by fastboot using the RSD Lite, if you do this remember to install all fastboot, adb and motorola drivers.
I hope it is a help for you.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll stick with 4.4.4 for now since it is quite stable and it's not easy to downgrade. I have an unlocked bootloader btw.
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I am on a Verizon moto x developer edition with an unlocked boot loader, custom recovery installed and I am rooted. I got the notification for the ota update. What if anything will this break?
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First, you need to be on stock recovery for the OTA to attempt to install. Next you need to make sure all your system files and such are present and back to "stock" (i.e. if you did the tethering hacks, renamed or replaced system files, etc, you need to undo that), and you need to un-install Xposed or the OTA will fail when it tries to install.
Since you are Dev with unlocked bootloader, it wont "break" anything, but the new bootloader installed via the OTA prevents downgrading your rom. So if you find an issue with 4.4.2, you're stuck with it, you can't flash back to 4.4. If you loose root, you can still flash custom recovery and install SuperSU to root.
Those with locked bootloader might keep root, but Write Protection gets Enabled again. With an unlocked boot loader, you don't have to worry about this.
Also, if you really want 4.4.2, there is a zip in the android development section with an unofficial sbf. Be very careful with what files you flash, i flashed the zip in RSD lite blindly (my mistake) and spend four hours trying to figure out why i didn't have data or any mobile connection.
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Also, don't take my word for it but i think you'll still be alright if you don't flash gpt.bin and the bootloader and you should still be able to downgrade.
Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I might just wait until someone puts out the deoxidized 4.4.2 rom. I would flash slim or cm11 but I really like the active display and the touch less controls.
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robwege said:
Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I might just wait until someone puts out the deoxidized 4.4.2 rom. I would flash slim or cm11 but I really like the active display and the touch less controls.
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For what its worth, I've been running this 4.4.2 rom (the odexed version, deodexed also available) created from a XT1052 image on my VZW/DE XT1060:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-moto-x-xt1052-t2639724
I did swap out the original build.prop with the Verizon-ized build.prop someone was kind enough to post on page 2 or 3 of that thread. It has been working great for me for the last week! Tethering even works on VZW w/o any extra steps.
robwege said:
I am on a Verizon moto x developer edition with an unlocked boot loader, custom recovery installed and I am rooted. I got the notification for the ota update. What if anything will this break?
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If that's all you've done (haven't modified/deleted/renamed any system files/apps or installed Xposed, etc..) then it's really easy.
Flash the stock recovery back to your phone
install the update
Flash TWRP back to your phone (or not....)
Done.
You won't lose root taking the OTA and flashing recovery back doesn't affect your user data or app installs/configurations.
Sorry If this is a newbie question.
SO here is my Story.
I Was trying to flash the Epsilon Project ROM for my Moto X 1052. So I first created a Nandroid Backup of My Kitkat 4.4.4 Stock ROM.
But When I was wiping my data Cache and dalvik i accidentally cleared all my internal storage. The Stock ROM was completely wiped and my cell was stuck at Bootloader Unlocked warning message.
Suddenly i got an idea and I flashed The Epsilon ROM using OTG Cable. The device booted succesfully. But if I want to go to the stock rom back then should i restore my Nandroid or I should follow the RSDLite method.
Does flashing the custom ROM using the OTG have any effect on the Bootloader because I heard that Downgrading the bootloader from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 bricks the phone. Is my bootloader is still on 4.4.4?
Thanks
Nandroid or use fastboot. Why would flashing a rom using an OTG cable be any different from having your phone connected to a computer? The only way your bootloader would be on 4.4.2 is if you flashed a 4.4.2 rom, but that wouldn't be successful.
Why doesn't anybody use fastboot anymore?
I used to have a Samsung device. Everything was flashed using Odin and it had extSdCard slot also.
So dealing with so many commands freak me out. That's why I dont use fastboot. (don't know about others)
Thnks for your reply
nhizzat said:
...The only way your bootloader would be on 4.4.2 is if you flashed a 4.4.2 rom, but that wouldn't be successful
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Actually, even if you bricked downgrading to 4.4.2, the bootloader wouldn't be downgraded.
I've not seen anyone able to downgrade their bootloader, bricking or not. If it is possible, that gives some hope to all those 4.4.4 VZW users with locked bootloaders, who can't use sunshine currently...
I was just wondering if i can go back from stock ota updated 5.0.2 to 4.4 kitkat with my twrp backup without problems ?
You can downgrade to 4.4.4 without issues. But I never tested such thing using TWRP backup, but, as far as I know, KitKat bootloader is different of Lollipop, so you may brick some files in your Titan. If you really want to downgrade, do it properly, by downloading DSDALL firmware and then, using fastboot to order the commands. If you want to automate downgrade process, you can use my tool that you can take a look here. You still need to download the stock ROM apart, tough. xD
Ok thank you very much. Guess I'll have to use titanium backup and fastboot then. Will definitely check your tool
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Ok thank you very much. Guess I'll have to use titanium backup and fastboot then. Will definitely check your tool
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No problem. Glad I helped
No you can easily downgrade using twrp.. Just wipe system cache data and dalvik cache and restore the system, data and boot of your kk backup.. You should be good to go
Flashing the firmware will surely brick your device
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Ok thanks a lot thats great to hear will do it this way then . So basically i can have KK roms on Lollipop bootloader but not vice versa ( except stock based )and i cant downgrade the bootloader right ?
thepekic said:
Ok thanks a lot thats great to hear will do it this way then . So basically i can have KK roms on Lollipop bootloader but not vice versa ( except stock based )and i cant downgrade the bootloader right ?
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You cant downgrade your bootloader, and yes you cant use custom 5.1 roms with kk bootloader But anyways, your bootloader is already upgraded, so it doesnt matter. And be careful about one thing, don't directly flash a STOCK kk rom on a lollipop 5.1 rom. Always downgrade to a stock based rom, and then do it.. CM11 based roms can be flashed directly (with wipes of course)
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You cant downgrade your bootloader, and yes you cant use custom 5.1 roms with kk bootloader But anyways, your bootloader is already upgraded, so it doesnt matter. And be careful about one thing, don't directly flash a STOCK kk rom on a lollipop 5.1 rom. Always downgrade to a stock based rom, and then do it.. CM11 based roms can be flashed directly (with wipes of course)
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Thanks. Sorry because i was a bit unclear, the thing is i didn't update to lollipop yet and wanted to do it via ota. So I'm still on stock 4.4. But i saw your RaR rom and i think i will just flash that. I'm really sorry to ask again and waste your time but will i be able to flash other non-stock based lollipop roms then ? (just for fun of course because i think i will be using RaR as my daily )
thepekic said:
Thanks. Sorry because i was a bit unclear, the thing is i didn't update to lollipop yet and wanted to do it via ota. So I'm still on stock 4.4. But i saw your RaR rom and i think i will just flash that. I'm really sorry to ask again and waste your time but will i be able to flash other non-stock based lollipop roms then ? (just for fun of course because i think i will be using RaR as my daily )
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I highly recommend you do the ota update before flashing any ROMs, because it will update your bootloader, and avoid issues After you get your BL updated, you can freely flash any ROM of your choice, just make sure you do a clean flash
And no you are not wasting my time
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Vidhanth said:
I highly recommend you do the ota update before flashing any ROMs, because it will update your bootloader, and avoid issues After you get your BL updated, you can freely flash any ROM of your choice, just make sure you do a clean flash
And no you are not wasting my time
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Ok done thanks so much man !
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Just got a new XT1095 Pure with 4.4.4 pre-loaded. I've already gone through the 'unlocking bootloader' routine from the Moto website. What's next? Should I be taking OTA to 5.1 first or rooting first? Thanks for any help!
dcoaster said:
Just got a new XT1095 Pure with 4.4.4 pre-loaded. I've already gone through the 'unlocking bootloader' routine from the Moto website. What's next? Should I be taking OTA to 5.1 first or rooting first? Thanks for any help!
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OTA first, you can't upgrade if you are rooted.
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dcoaster said:
Just got a new XT1095 Pure with 4.4.4 pre-loaded. I've already gone through the 'unlocking bootloader' routine from the Moto website. What's next? Should I be taking OTA to 5.1 first or rooting first? Thanks for any help!
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The 4.4 bootloader is fine with every rom out there. I wouldn't take the OTA since you are unlocked bootloader just flash the stock roms via twrp on the android develop section there is one for 4.4, 5.0, and 5.1. its the best way to not risk hard bricks. I have switched back and forth several times going this route. AGISCI posted them.
I also just got an xt1095, is this the latest ROM http://www.filefactory.com/file/5d66szhobgmx/VICTARA_TMO_XT1095_5.1_LPE23.32-21.6_cid9_CFC.xml.zip ?
Also, I have unlocked my bootloader but didn't root yet (this is with 4.4.4 installed). If i simply DL this image and flash it using TWRP (which i have installed) will it overwrite TWRP or break it in any way? Can I then simply root via TWRP ( assuming it is ok) and boom have a fully rooted Lollipop phone ?
Brutal_Master said:
I also just got an xt1095, is this the latest ROM http://www.filefactory.com/file/5d66szhobgmx/VICTARA_TMO_XT1095_5.1_LPE23.32-21.6_cid9_CFC.xml.zip ?
Also, I have unlocked my bootloader but didn't root yet (this is with 4.4.4 installed). If i simply DL this image and flash it using TWRP (which i have installed) will it overwrite TWRP or break it in any way? Can I then simply root via TWRP ( assuming it is ok) and boom have a fully rooted Lollipop phone ?
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You can't flash firmware files with TWRP, it won't work.
You have to flash it with RSDLite or fastboot.
As far as if it overwrites TWRP. If you use RSDLite, yes it will erase TWRP and replace it with the stock recovery. If you use fastboot to flash just skip the recovery image when you are flashing.
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AGISCI said:
You can't flash firmware files with TWRP, it won't work.
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Why? Is this limitation only for stock images or ANY custom ROM too?
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Why? Is this limitation only for stock images or ANY custom ROM too?
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Because the firmware files are just standard images which get flashed and overwrite the partitions. The zips you run in TWRP are instructions on what to do and install. They are completely different things/formats.
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Hi, I've been trying to Root, Unlock Bootloader and Flash a Custom Recovery in my LG L90 D410 Running Lollipop 5.0.2 Software v20a but there are too many methods and I'm confused. Some of them is just about rooting but also want to unlock bootloader and install recovery.
Please Help ASAP.
Hi. First step is rooting. As you are on 20a you should be able to use one-step rooting (search forum), which needs a computer. If it doesn't work or you want a simpler solution, you can use Kingroot, but be aware that there are some concerns about using it due to its constant communication to Chinese servers that aren't well explained so far AFAIK. You may want to replace it with SuperSU later using a script (not easy). It will be removed later if you flash a ROM anyway...
Once rooted: backup original bootstack and modemst partitions, flash unlocked bootstack (make sure you flash one for your exact phone model), flash recovery and then you should be able to flash any ROM.
PS: most custom ROMs only work with Kitkat bootstack, then either downgrade or flash KK bootstsck before flashing custom ROM.
PS2: it seems that at least latest versions of CM 12.1 work with either Kitkat or Lollipop bootstacks, so you may want to check the most recent info about the custom ROM you want to install first.
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