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I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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that's interesting cuz i was having similar issues as well.. not all the time, but just had that first occurence yesterday. Have you tried sending a message and waiting for the "spinning" timer disappear before exiting the convo?
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
ckochinsky125 said:
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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Yeah, I have. It works fine on my gf fascinate, but not mine. Funny thing is, I've gone all the way back to stock and still won't work. Maybe a network profile thing.
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I have a similar problem except SMS works fine for me but I cannot receive MMS messages. I can send MMS fine though... I hope 2.2 will fix it.
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
ithecho84 ,
Contact tech support and have the "flush" out your cell number. I had the same problem with my DROID and they did something to the switch in the network and I have never had an issue with MMS ever again.
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Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
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I am the same person.
I also know exactly what the apps I remove do.
None of the apps I removed affect sms to cause the issues I am having.
My g/f has the same phone. I have removed the same apps on hers, she doesn't have the issues.
I have a buddy with a droid incredible on CM6, he flashed a new radio and couldn't text his GF, but only her.
I have another friend with a Droid2 who cannot use handcent.
The handcent boards have posts from people on every network with various phone who have various issues.
I never had a problem with handcent on my N1.
So then, Mr. Logic boy. Put that together for me with the pieces I have given you.
let me know what you come up with.
P.S.: You may have missed the "I went back to stock and it still didn't work" part of This Thread.
Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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The sns enable the syncing with the integrated Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace clients into your address book and the TouchWiz widgets. I have no use for these, as to me it's unnecessary contact clutter, and sync drain to boot.
The stock Mms app can be replaced, and has been, but I use the stock for the ability to select multiple recipients which is absent in the Android stock mms.
I haven't figured out all the differences between the Verizon and T-mo network stuff yet, but I will do some research as I have time, because I am 90% sure my problem lies there. The tech support I've been able to get through to seems uninterested in any kind of in depth troubleshooting, instead urging me to replace the handset, which I will not do.
I had same issue and I uninstall and put it back without using the back up data from a back up . Worked great .
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SMS Issues
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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OMG.
I hate when something that drives you completely crazy is this simple.
Why in the hell doesn't Verizon know this? ha. Thanx.
Daswolven said:
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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I was wondering if you resolved your problem with Handcent? I have a problem now where if I try and attach a picture to a mms directly from the camera Handcent force closes. I tried the same thing with the stock MMS and same result. I went to Rom Manager and downloaded the MMS.apk for the ROM that I am running. I tried it again on Handcent, same result, but I was able to do it from the stock MMS I downloaded. I personally like all the options that Handcent has and would like to know if you have any suggestions regarding my problem.
Yeppers. Whatever the issue was stopped after I changed my methods of building from stock a bit.
Never managed to pin point it.
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I'm confused by the notes about the "+" in front of phone numbers? Why would you have a "+" like that, and what does that have to do with GSM? Furthermore, can you send a text to these numbers with the stock Messaging app, but NOT Handcent? Or does it work in neither? Thanks.
If you find a specific, reproduceable issue with Handcent though, especially if you know the cause, let me know if you want, because I've been working with one of the developers (or the developer, I'm not sure) - Jack, directly and frequently. I'm the one that cleaned up the Handcent forums to get rid of all the spam threads/users recently (if you've ever been there, you'll know how horrible it was prior), and helped him get it changed over to SMF from phpbb2, etc. I'm also a mod on the forums there, and I've been testing a few bugs directly with him, on beta builds of Handcent. So I can certainly bring something to his attention directly if it warrants it.
So, I just upgraded from my old 4S to the moto x. i love it. It is really fast and snappy and does all the things i do exceptionally well.... except for one thing... group messaging. I can send messages out to a group, however when people reply to me the messages get sorted into separate threads from anyone on an android. it seems weird, and i have checked the MMS settings and they are all there. tried speaking with Motorola and they said it's working as intended. Was wondering if anyone else had this issue.
Also, i am on Verizon.
Thank you in advance,
-Jim
Just a heads up for anyone having this issue.
I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
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I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
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I like to try to get everyone on hangouts since almost everyone has a gmail account and it is multi-platform. I know that's not a solution to group messaging with the messaging app, but it's a great alternative I think.
Good idea,
yea, it is a good idea, i just feel like a **** telling all of my friends to use that for only me haha. this is working great and you can just use standard text messaging/mms.
Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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I have a verizon dev unit that is able to send and receive group MMS fine. So far I have only tested it with other phones on verizon though. Do you have the group messaging option turned on in the messaging settings?
Yup I went in and selected the group messaging option. The weird thing is that textra adds more options than my stock messaging app. Idk if its something that textra enables that for some reason I can't see in the normal settings. The pic with 17 at the end is my phone settings. The one with 66 is the textra app.
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So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
I also use Textra for MMS, the stock messaging has never kept MMS in the same group for me on any of my phones. It is not a problem with the phone just Android's stock message app...kinda sucks, I've always hated it and I never use it. Textra is my newest favorite. Hoping Hangouts does a good job but until then I'm satisfied.
My group messaging worked just fine on stock messenger. Now with hangouts its still working just as good. Never really had a problen
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jimski427 said:
So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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I did not try a phone at the store, but it did follow me to a new moto x without even logging into any google accounts or anything. i unfortunately do not have any other phone that i could swap sims with to test this. It did work perfectly fine on my iphone 4s before though. Not sure if it was IOS messaging app fixing the issue with my network or not. It's odd that other apps seem to work perfectly fine though. At this point i'm going to wait for 4.4 and see if it works. VZW tech support in store and via phone have no clue.
I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
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I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
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Which computer application?
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Which computer application?
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I'm assuming Motorola Connect. Same thing happened with me, but now with SMS Hangouts, everything is fine.
This is my wife's new X. She wanted a freaking Iphone but I talked her into this. Just some color here.
She now has a notification in the tool bar that reads "messages unable to send." If you pull it down, it brings you to the general text app. There is nothing that tells her WHAT messages didn't send. It's driving her crazy. Even to the point of her going to Verizon (which she despises) who were, of course, zero help. Made her delete all her texts and it's still happening. All her texts read as sent and if you exit the text app, the notification goes away for a few seconds then reappears.
Need to know if any of you guys have an idea of why this is happening and if so, how to stop it.
She'll turn that thing into an iphone by the end of the week if I can't figure it out.
Thanks gang.
Does she have an active mobile data connection? I think she needs that to text on Verizon, wifi may not be sufficient.
Groid said:
Does she have an active mobile data connection? I think she needs that to text on Verizon, wifi may not be sufficient.
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Yeah. data is up and running.
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Does she have an active mobile data connection? I think she needs that to text on Verizon, wifi may not be sufficient.
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Anyone else have a guess? It's driving her nuts.
Are her messages actually being sent and received?
Remove her sim and reinsert.
Google the Verizon APN settings and confirm they are correct in network settings.
Try a different texting app. I'd recommend Textra or hangouts.
If none of that works reply here I'm sure there will be more help incoming.
I sometimes have this problem when sending pictures to iPhones, it will constantly fail to send. Rebooting usually solves it
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Have you tried Settings > Apps > swipe R to L to get to All > Messaging > Force stop > Clear cache > Clear data. Restart and try another message. Or as others have suggested, try another messaging app. I really like 8SMS and have set that as my default messaging app and set Active Notifications to show 8SMS notifications by default.
Switched to Chomp SMS and it's fine.
Thanks all.
redddog said:
Switched to Chomp SMS and it's fine.
Thanks all.
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I had the same problem before the 4.4.3 update. It was picture mail that wouldn't send. Our APNs have a dedicated MMS APN that needed to be configured for my mvno . once I configured the APN I rebooted and it sent whatever picture mail I had been trying to send out.
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marnold425 said:
I had the same problem before the 4.4.3 update. It was picture mail that wouldn't send. Our APNs have a dedicated MMS APN that needed to be configured for my mvno . once I configured the APN I rebooted and it sent whatever picture mail I had been trying to send out.
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A lot of people actually seem to be having trouble with SMS after the 4.4.3 update. It generally seems to be because they've disabled the app "messaging" and for whatever reason, they can't reenable it after the update.
It doesn't make much sense though, because texting apps can't rout messages through other apps anymore.
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A lot of people actually seem to be having trouble with SMS after the 4.4.3 update. It generally seems to be because they've disabled the app "messaging" and for whatever reason, they can't reenable it after the update.
It doesn't make much sense though, because texting apps can't rout messages
I had the problem before the update and after I updated it was already fixed but it was because my service provider and I figured it out before the update
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I'd been getting the unsent SMS every couple days on 4.4.2. I used 'Permission Friendly Apps' to find what had 'Send SMS' permissions. I don't use Skype from my phone, so I uninstalled it. I also disabled SMS and turned off the 'Improve Hangouts' option in Hangouts. After about a week, still no mysterious empty message.
It's not proof any of that fixes anything, but may be worth a try?
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Which one are you guys using?
It pisses me off that hangouts archives pics regardless of setting. I was surprised to goto picasa/google+ photos and see every pic ever sent via hangouts there. Until Google changes this, I've gone back to stock SMS.
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The color scheme kills me!
Both. I use SMS normally but I use Hangouts when my girlfriend is at work because she has chrome and the hangouts extension on her work computer.
I like hangouts.
Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Same here
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sotorious said:
The color scheme kills me!
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Holy cow, stock SMS is so ugly... the three default backgrounds and the bubble styles... looks like Cookie Monster vomit.
I'm using Hangouts and couldn't be happier. And MMS works on it with WiFi Calling, which was a pleasant surprise!
Stock mms need wificalling text and mms over wifi hangouts dont do that
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I've been using hangouts. My gf was having issues sending messages yesterday but other than that we've hadn't had any issues.
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APN settings?
siraltus said:
Holy cow, stock SMS is so ugly... the three default backgrounds and the bubble styles... looks like Cookie Monster vomit.
I'm using Hangouts and couldn't be happier. And MMS works on it with WiFi Calling, which was a pleasant surprise!
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What apn settings is Hangouts using? (Hangout settings) Also, what apn is your phone set to?
Screenshots would be awesome!
Ive been using Stock but mainly because I feel like Hangouts isn't as speedy as it use to be on my Note 3.
Mms over wifi doesn't work in hangouts right not the Google.Com but when it's set as default using ur number
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Textra
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Tried that once mms over wifi didn't work for me
I tried Hangouts but couldn't stand how it wouldn't use my contact pictures, it would only use their Google+ contact picture and most my contacts don't have a Google+ so it was a blank picture. Am I right here or is there a setting that eluded me?
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Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Same experience here. Seems like sending hangout message is fine, but sending an SMS slows it down considerably to a point that SwiftKey stops registering swipes for a couple of seconds.
Hangouts seemed a big slow at times, and also would send pictures only when it felt like it. I could find no pattern to when it would or wouldn't. Stock works all the time, recently switched to the lolipop messaging app.
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I've had this phone for a few days and I've noticed that if not getting any notifications for Hangouts. I have to constantly check the app to see if I missed messages. It's the only app that's doing this to me. No problems with any other app. Anyone having this issue?
YES!!
It's pretty annoying because I am missing a bunch of google voice texts because of this.
lainemac said:
I've had this phone for a few days and I've noticed that if not getting any notifications for Hangouts. I have to constantly check the app to see if I missed messages. It's the only app that's doing this to me. No problems with any other app. Anyone having this issue?
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I've noticed this as well -- but it seems to happen when I leave Hangouts as the active app on the screen when I turn it off (or it times out). If I go back to my home screen and out of Hangouts, then I get the message notifications.
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I've noticed this as well -- but it seems to happen when I leave Hangouts as the active app on the screen when I turn it off (or it times out). If I go back to my home screen and out of Hangouts, then I get the message notifications.
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Odd that a core Google app would have this problem when no 3rd-party app has done it. But Hangouts is due for an update anyways....
lainemac said:
I've had this phone for a few days and I've noticed that if not getting any notifications for Hangouts. I have to constantly check the app to see if I missed messages. It's the only app that's doing this to me. No problems with any other app. Anyone having this issue?
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I saw this for the first time today when I picked up my nexus 7 and saw I had a google voice text from several hours earlier. Opened hangouts on my phone and saw the text had been received, but I couldn't remember seeing a notification. It then happened again a couple hours later. I've had the phone since Thursday and been receiving hangouts notifications until this morning.
I've been having the same problem. Has anyone seen a fix
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lainemac said:
I've had this phone for a few days and I've noticed that if not getting any notifications for Hangouts. I have to constantly check the app to see if I missed messages. It's the only app that's doing this to me. No problems with any other app. Anyone having this issue?
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I thought it was an issue with the ROM I'm using and/or the kernel. But as it turns out my girlfriend, using a Stock, Unrooted T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Avant, isn't receiving any hangouts notifications either. It seems it could be a bug across all hangouts apps. She has android version 4.4.2. And hangouts version 2.5.81636427, same as me.
Same problem here, 100% factory. Noticed lots of texts a day after they came in with no notification.
so everybody thats using greenify, and doesnt have hangouts greenified, there is a greenify setting that many enable) but will prevent you from getting a hangouts notification.. the setting is to have greenify notify you if you get notifications. turn if off and dont turn it on, as it will prevent you from getting hangouts notifications.
I'm not using anything like greenify. Running a custom kernel but this problem seems to happen regardless of kernel changing.
MMS Bug Again
I'm starting to think it's related to the MMS bug creeping back in again from the Developer Preview.
If you go into Hangouts and try to edit your Access Point Names, you won't be able to because the menu drop down isn't there
I'm having the same issue. I'll hear the hangouts messahes come in on my Nexus 5, but nothing shows up on my Nexus 6 and I have to manually scroll the conversation to eventually get it to update (when I finally updates)
It's within the settings of SMS from the Hangouts app.
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I'm starting to think it's related to the MMS bug creeping back in again from the Developer Preview.
If you go into Hangouts and try to edit your Access Point Names, you won't be able to because the menu drop down isn't there
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Same thing, was working beautiful before...
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It's within the settings of SMS from the Hangouts app.
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Did you read the rest of my post @dawad
Yes, I did, which I responded that it's in the SMS settings from within Hangouts. APN doesn't appear if you select your hangout account, but is in the settings menu of Hangouts>SMS.
I'm seeing the same issue on my stock Note4, I'll not hear any verbal notification and don't see any visual notification, only way to know a text is received is to open hangouts and then I see several new texts.
Has anyone found a solution yet?
Same issue, I'm going to try what Simms suggested.
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