Ok so I understand that there is pingpong root to root the AT&T S6 but from what im reading it is not possible to flash a custom rom on this phone since the bootloader is still locked by AT&T. Is this correct?
No. You can flash a custom, stock based ROM using flashfire. As long as you don't mess with kernel or recovery, you won't trip Knox. There are several custom roms in the development forum.
Has anyone noticed better battery life using a custom ROM?
For my device battery life was the same when I rooted and when i was nonrooted. So i when back to official build . Getting anywhere from 3.5-4hrs of sot . Good enough for me . Try rooting and using it for a week . You can always Odin back to stock
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dandrumheller said:
No. You can flash a custom, stock based ROM using flashfire. As long as you don't mess with kernel or recovery, you won't trip Knox. There are several custom roms in the development forum.
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This whole Knox thing has me baffled...
Consider the following scenario: If I root using ping pong root, then flash a custom ROM with Knox removed (Clean ROM) via FlashFire, then decide to Odin back to stock - will Knox be tripped?
I'm still not sure if Knox is something I would ever want to have intact, or if my employer may somehow require it on my phone at some point. So I'm really just trying to understand my limitations, what I can/can't do, etc.
Thanks in advance for your input!
cbasse said:
This whole Knox thing has me baffled...
Consider the following scenario: If I root using ping pong root, then flash a custom ROM with Knox removed (Clean ROM) via FlashFire, then decide to Odin back to stock - will Knox be tripped?
I'm still not sure if Knox is something I would ever want to have intact, or if my employer may somehow require it on my phone at some point. So I'm really just trying to understand my limitations, what I can/can't do, etc.
Thanks in advance for your input!
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There is Knox software within roms (which is typically removed in debloated roms like cleanrom), which would be required if your employer required Knox support for you to use your phone with them. This can be put back by flashing a stock ROM or another ROM that hasn't had it removed.
There is also the Knox warranty bit, which is a one-time deal. If you trip the warranty bit (by flashing a custom kernel or recovery, or maybe some other way) there is no way to bring it back. It's my understanding that once the Knox bit is tripped, anything that requires Knox support will no longer work, as the Knox software will treat the phone as unsecured. The suspicion is that Samsung pay will not work if Knox bit is tripped, but no one knows for sure yet.
All the above is just what I've gathered from what I've read. I've been away from Samsung since the SGS2, and have never personally used Knox.
To answer your question, if you root with ping-pong, flash clean ROM with flash fire, then Odin back to stock, your Knox bit will not be tripped.
Thanks for the info! Sounds like as long as I don't go flashing a custom recovery or kernel, and just stick to flashing ROMs with FlashFire, wish maybe the occasional Odin back to stock, I shouldn't have any concerns with the Knox warranty being tripped, correct?
cbasse said:
Thanks for the info! Sounds like as long as I don't go flashing a custom recovery or kernel, and just stick to flashing ROMs with FlashFire, wish maybe the occasional Odin back to stock, I shouldn't have any concerns with the Knox warranty being tripped, correct?
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That's my understanding.
You can always Odin back to stock
cbasse said:
Thanks for the info! Sounds like as long as I don't go flashing a custom recovery or kernel, and just stick to flashing ROMs with FlashFire, wish maybe the occasional Odin back to stock, I shouldn't have any concerns with the Knox warranty being tripped, correct?
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You won't have to worry about flashing a custom recovery or any other custom rom other than a T/W Rom since the bootloader is locked and it can't be done. If you try you'll have to Odin to stock anyway.
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Hey guys;
very quick intro:
Ive had an X10 and GalaxyS and I have plenty of experience in rooting and flashing.
I got my Note through Crazy Johns, which is an Aussie operator. We are yet to get ICS and I imagine it will be a long time before we do.
My plan is to flash a rootable rom, root, CWM, flash, then upgrade to some non stock ICS distro. If I ever have an issue I cant fix myself, I will reflash the software back to some stock.
My problem is, I cant find my stock rom to download. They are all a little bit different. In XDA's experience, has the average mobile repairman ever checked? If I send it away, are they likely to void warranty because it isnt the original stock ROM? Is there a way I can backup my stock rom?
Also, will flashing to a stock GB rom remove CWM and the root? I had a bad experience with my X10 and they wouldnt repair it because I had loaded 2.1 before it came out in Aus.
Sorry that grew into a long post, but this is the only thing stopping me from rooting RIGHT NOW, haha.
Thanks XDA'ers.
VincentRC said:
Hey guys;
very quick intro:
Ive had an X10 and GalaxyS and I have plenty of experience in rooting and flashing.
I got my Note through Crazy Johns, which is an Aussie operator. We are yet to get ICS and I imagine it will be a long time before we do.
My plan is to flash a rootable rom, root, CWM, flash, then upgrade to some non stock ICS distro. If I ever have an issue I cant fix myself, I will reflash the software back to some stock.
My problem is, I cant find my stock rom to download. They are all a little bit different. In XDA's experience, has the average mobile repairman ever checked? If I send it away, are they likely to void warranty because it isnt the original stock ROM? Is there a way I can backup my stock rom?
Also, will flashing to a stock GB rom remove CWM and the root? I had a bad experience with my X10 and they wouldnt repair it because I had loaded 2.1 before it came out in Aus.
Sorry that grew into a long post, but this is the only thing stopping me from rooting RIGHT NOW, haha.
Thanks XDA'ers.
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Go to www.sammobile.com and download any rom you want. If you flash stock rom to your note your root and CMW will be removed.
Youre a gentleman and a scholar sir. Thanks. And I dont have to worry about the yellow triangle do I?
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Youre a gentleman and a scholar sir. Thanks. And I dont have to worry about the yellow triangle do I?
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Pick the rom with letter K at the end of the line. K means kies its official rom it will not produced yellow triangle if you flash it. Use mobileodin from the google market for easy installation.
Would you recommend mobile odin over CWM or regular odin?
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Would you recommend mobile odin over CWM or regular odin?
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I recommend mobileodin because you can flash anything from a custom kernel to non official rom and will not produced a yellow triangle. Mobile odin is for tar files and CWM is for zip files.
You can do all things in the comport of your phone. You dont need a computer to do it.
So, I guess if I flash custom firmware through CWM it will add to the triangle, then I triangleaway, then I flash back to stock with mobile odin, and I will have a completely fresh virgin system, correct?
Somehow this is still easier than flashing the PSP, but its giving me flashbacks. The X10 and Galaxy S was a lot easier than this, haha
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So, I guess if I flash custom firmware through CWM it will add to the triangle, then I triangleaway, then I flash back to stock with mobile odin, and I will have a completely fresh virgin system, correct?
Somehow this is still easier than flashing the PSP, but its giving me flashbacks. The X10 and Galaxy S was a lot easier than this, haha
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If you flash custom rom through CWM recovery it will not produce yellow triangle. If you flash cf root to get CMW by using pc odin it will certainly produce a triangle but if you use mobileodin to flash cf root of course no triangle.
Going to sleep now its 11:00 pm here. Many work to do in the morning. Sorry.
Hey everyone
I am new to rooting and I wanted to make a nandroid back up but it presumably requires a custom recovery.
Is there a way to get a custom recovery without changing kernels and ROMs ?
Also if I flash a custom kernel what change does it bring on my phone? Does it increase the binary counter or do I lose warranty of my device?
I have no idea what kernels are and am a noob at these things.
I'm rooted btw.
PS I wanted to try out the Xposed modules and hence mainly wanted to make a nandroid backup in case I do something wrong
Rishabhgarg007 said:
Hey everyone
I am new to rooting and I wanted to make a nandroid back up but it presumably requires a custom recovery.
Is there a way to get a custom recovery without changing kernels and ROMs ?
Also if I flash a custom kernel what change does it bring on my phone? Does it increase the binary counter or do I lose warranty of my device?
I have no idea what kernels are and am a noob at these things.
I'm rooted btw.
PS I wanted to try out the Xposed modules and hence mainly wanted to make a nandroid backup in case I do something wrong
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Welcome to XDA.
Yes, you can use a temporaly recovery, just use the search bar.
If you don't know what kernel is you need to read and learn first, nobody here will teach you.
By the way, you already lose your warranty.
Binary counter increase? Don't worry, use Triangle Away apk and reset binary counter.
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If you don't flash anything custom made using Odin, your binary counter won't be triggered. If your binary counter increases, just reset it as the post above said so you have nothing to worry about your warranty.
If you are new here, you can start by reading this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198341
XDA encourage all of its member to learn by reading.
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My phone rooted with N900AUCUCNC2 kernel stock 3.4.0-722276 but wifi not good, now i want flash kernel 3.4.0-257432 that ok?
And can u share kernel 3.4.0-257432? thanks!
tuanhuynh87 said:
My phone rooted with N900AUCUCNC2 kernel stock 3.4.0-722276 but wifi not good, now i want flash kernel 3.4.0-257432 that ok?
And can u share kernel 3.4.0-257432? thanks!
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Locked boot loader we are not able to flash kernels
tuanhuynh87 said:
My phone rooted with N900AUCUCNC2 kernel stock 3.4.0-722276 but wifi not good, now i want flash kernel 3.4.0-257432 that ok?
And can u share kernel 3.4.0-257432? thanks!
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You may trip Knox counter, our locked boot loader only boots kernels or recoveries it approves of. Nothing stopped us from flashing kernels or custom recoveries, it is just that it wouldn't boot.
In addition you can't root it. Towelroot is a kernel exploit and it doesn't work on MLG kernel. Don't know for sure if you can flash the MLG kernel on an already rooted custom ROM and would still keep root.
tuanhuynh87 said:
My phone rooted with N900AUCUCNC2 kernel stock 3.4.0-722276 but wifi not good, now I want flash kernel 3.4.0-257432 that ok?
And can u share kernel 3.4.0-257432? thanks!
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If you're having wifi issues not remembering your password once you reboot. Go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793441and scroll through the post till you find wifi issues. Don't update your kernel then you will trip knox and void your warranty. You can also go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117 and bring your phone back to factory. This second option will clear every bit of data from your phone so make sure you back everything up before using this option.
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Are we still unable to flash custom kernels? On Araymod 8.4 rooted. I need to be able to install a good overclocking kernel but am having a heck of a time finding anything.
Custom kernels will not work with a locked bootloader.
Any way to show the carrier text? Mine doesn't show up.
You mean text messages from other people?
No, like in Carrier text on statusbar. It will say AT&T when I'm on the Hspa / LTE network when it hands off it should say AT&T MicroCell.
I just wanted to know , im not new to flashing stuff but im certainly new to this knox thing , which things do i lose when i decide to go custom rom besides warranty ?
You won't be able to go back to stock, as the phone will not enter deep sleep, this is fixed by rooting/flashing a custom kernel.
You will not be able to use Samsung Pay or Android pay if you root and lose Knox.
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So I'm about to root my, phone and possibly install a new rom. Just want to know if there is a safe way to go back to stock if I mess anything up lol. If I have to return the phone for a warranty exchange will they know that I rooted the phone?
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Root trips Knox, which voids warranty. There is no way to avoid tripping Knox & no way to un-trip it. It is very easy to go back to stock, though.
I had a difficult time finding a way going back to stock for a little over a month now. I've searched and downloaded numerous version of stock N910TUVU2DOK2, even a version directly from Sammobile, and none of them worked. I would get an error message when trying to flash stock N910TUVU2DOK2 using Odin on every attempt. But I was able to finally get back to stock after using a mirror link of stock TW N910TUVU2DOK2 which I found here on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/mirror-stock-tw-t3260858
So when the time comes that you want to go back to stock, swing by there and download the mirror link