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[Q] Should I go for CM10.1 or wait?

I've noticed that alot of people report Bugs from it and battery drain issues so should I wait or go for it?

battery has never been better XD

Some people is correct. For me the battery is so much better than it was on v 20A, not sure how it compares to ICS tho, but definitely better than stock JB.
Overall I really love the stock ANDROID look and feel rather than a skin like Optimus UI or Touchwiz, don't get me wrong Optimus UI is pretty good and functional but I still like google's android look a lot better.
it's just a matter of preference.
Performance wise, its on par with the stock JB rom, cept maybe a bit more lag in the UI since it is an early version. Camera tho is a ton better and unlike LG, CM post updates every night, hence the rom name...Nightly.

I found no critical bugs when using the default kernel. Eternity project kernel gave me some issues. Gaming is slightly worse but as the ROM improves and eternity project completes his kernel its going to be great!
Sent from my rooted P880

You should flash !

[Q] Which ROM do you use?

Hey everyone,
There has been a lot of development going on recently for our device. So tell us what ROM and kernel do you use and why you like it.
It will help other people to know the features and USPs of other ROMs.
I am currently using Ivan's AOSP with Stock Kernel.
BTW Thanks @Cancro90 for your index.

I have now swtiched to Paranoid Android. Unfortunately, I cannot edit my poll vote...
Coming from Ivan's AOSP, it sure seems equally fluid, the battery life and performance is really good with Phantom Kernel.
I have used PAC ROM too, and it is a great ROM for those looking for a plethora of features.
MIUI v6? Nope, not my cup of android candy! Though a few people still use it.
I prefer my candy vanilla-like .

I've tried the AOSP and Cm ROMs, but I keep coming back to MIUI. I like the look and feel of MIUI, but the biggest thing is the camera. I can't stand the bad camera quality when compared to MIUI. I will miss the audio quality of AOSP/Cm ROMs as they sound so better. So it's almost a toss up between the two. If/when Xiaomi fixes the audio quality (hopefully with lollipop) I will be truly happy.
Also, for me, I got a Xiaomi phone to experience MIUI at its best, just like I would get a Nexus device to have the best stock Android experience. Sometimes I'll feel like going to AOSP, but I really like how MIUI feels on a Xiaomi phone.
Sent from my MI 4W using Tapatalk

Slim LP superb stable

Ulver said:
I've tried the AOSP and Cm ROMs, but I keep coming back to MIUI. I like the look and feel of MIUI, but the biggest thing is the camera. I can't stand the bad camera quality when compared to MIUI. I will miss the audio quality of AOSP/Cm ROMs as they sound so better. So it's almost a toss up between the two. If/when Xiaomi fixes the audio quality (hopefully with lollipop) I will be truly happy.
Also, for me, I got a Xiaomi phone to experience MIUI at its best, just like I would get a Nexus device to have the best stock Android experience. Sometimes I'll feel like going to AOSP, but I really like how MIUI feels on a Xiaomi phone.
Sent from my MI 4W using Tapatalk
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I will also move to MIUI temporarily... My Google Cardboard is coming soon and I need the magnetometer to work for a few functions... Are there any stable custom ROMs with compass fixed?
EDIT: Just found out that compass works in Bitti09 CM

(M)iPhone said:
I will also move to MIUI temporarily... My Google Cardboard is coming soon and I need the magnetometer to work for a few functions... Are there any stable custom ROMs with compass fixed?
EDIT: Just found out that compass works in Bitti09 CM
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You can use IVAN Rom. Everything perfect except HDR picture. But customization is very less, however you can use xposed.
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Ulver said:
I've tried the AOSP and Cm ROMs, but I keep coming back to MIUI. I like the look and feel of MIUI, but the biggest thing is the camera. I can't stand the bad camera quality when compared to MIUI. I will miss the audio quality of AOSP/Cm ROMs as they sound so better. So it's almost a toss up between the two. If/when Xiaomi fixes the audio quality (hopefully with lollipop) I will be truly happy.
Also, for me, I got a Xiaomi phone to experience MIUI at its best, just like I would get a Nexus device to have the best stock Android experience. Sometimes I'll feel like going to AOSP, but I really like how MIUI feels on a Xiaomi phone.
Sent from my MI 4W using Tapatalk
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use this post for audio
http://en.miui.com/thread-91229-1-1.html

I've tried that, it does nothing for Bluetooth.
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I am trying the last miui stable thats is working so fine
Enviado desde mi bq Edison 2 Quad Core mediante Tapatalk

currently I'm using Ivans AOSP 5.1.1 on stock kernel after using the MIUI6 developer rom for quite some time.
MIUI6 PRO:
- gorgeous design,
- the best camera app for MI3
- plenty of features.
- stable
MIUI 6 CON:
- comparably slow and battery draining
- full of bloat-ware
I'm still testing the AOSP,
so far it seems stable (some random call drops) , is fast and responsive, consumes less battery and of course no bloat-ware

It seems most of the users use Ivan's AOSP...

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currently I'm using Ivans AOSP 5.1.1 on stock kernel after using the MIUI6 developer rom for quite some time.
MIUI6 PRO:
- gorgeous design,
- the best camera app for MI3
- plenty of features.
- stable
MIUI 6 CON:
- comparably slow and battery draining
- full of bloat-ware
I'm still testing the AOSP,
so far it seems stable (some random call drops) , is fast and responsive, consumes less battery and of course no bloat-ware
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Ahah yes MIUI Pro rom has the better camera with unleashed function (I posted it monthes ago on miui forum and a way to use it on chinese MIUI rom or other international MIUI. For camera with custom rom I'm using OppoCamera (yes HDR still broken) that allows me long exposure, zero shutter lag, manual iso and so on. Sadly HDR still broken and it's so useful function, Manual focus is broken too.
Actually I'm using Paranoid rom with stuxnet+ kernel, which is a great combo.

KK vs LP vs MM thinking of downgrading, what's the verdict?

Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?

scutterflux said:
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
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I kind of miss KitKat too and I did go back for a while, the reason I came back to MM Concept is because KitKat isn't perfect either. The notifications are miles better on LP and MM.
I agree that KitKat was simpler and Android 4.4.4 is probably my favorite version.
Antuntu and other benchmarks don't mean anything for daily use unless you play 3d games. There are videos on you tube showing that kitkat is faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx06yJMVT-U
Faster boot on kitkat was due to Dalvik, since Android 5.0 default runtime is ART. But I don't see why is that important, we don't boot our phone 10 times per day, do we?
I don't think there is a discussion on the forums about this, I would like to se it too but I think that people just jump to latest and greatest software...

Month ago I had Xperia Play wit GingerBread, now I have Z3C wit LP. I've tried LP and MM deeper. It's a big difference from GB. KK is much closer to GB, more "classic Android". Lolipop has much better SystemUI and almost all modifications is for LP. For KK there is only few mods for sound and that's all. I like KK cause backward compatibility too. On newer Android many older games like FIFA 12 are unplayable.
Time for Marshmallow will come in future. Today I don't see any advantage to use Android 6. There are no apps or games requiring it. Almost all apps want max 4.4. Speed or multitasking is in my opinion the same in all of the three versions - honestly Z3C has too much power that few percent in terms of performance is useless. The only reason to use MM is Xperia X camera framework in SLIMM 1.9 ROM (but this version is too buggy) - on the other hand, for Lolipop there are Z5 camera files.
Generaly the best from these three is (in my opinion) Lolipop. It looks nice, it's "reskined" Kittkat with some new and better features, has biggest fan support, it's stable, fast and complete - all features working as they should and nothing is missing. Almost all Xposed modules are compatible or has version that is compatible with Lolipop. Marhsmallow breaks the classic - some features are on different places, are little bit different at all and some of them aren't there completely (stamina - in latest build is only "something" like stamina; Dualshock 3 support and so on). There is to much to improve. Kittkat is for old school users, which want better compatibility with older apps or want to play SHIELD games, cause they don't run on Lolipop or Marshmallow in my case.

I just installed KK for a go, and it's pretty snappy, I don't miss lockscreen notifications from LP because I don't use them. All the functions I use are still there and with Xperia Xposed all the UI tweaks I like are still available. I'm not sure I'll notice an improvement in battery life because it was still pretty good on LP but I'll watch for that as most reports tend to favour KK in this department. I was thinking about what you (Miicheall) said about gaming, and there's this game I've been wanting to try for awhile (Army of Darkness Defence) and could never get it to work on LP, so I just installed it on KK and hey what do you know it works!

I have to correct myself - SHIELD games like Half-Life 2 or Portal are playable on Lollipop - on MM not. Many games working on KK but on higher version not. So good luck and have fun

KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.

techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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LP Is very stable, battery is great if you decide to take effort and install greenify and limit app permissions and wakelocks. Marshmallow honestly at this point is not that good with most users reporting the Doze feature being somewhat useless

You're having a laugh LP was the worst OS update by Google for some time, it's been beset with nothing but trouble.

I know this is not the norm according to reports but monitoring battery usage with 3c toolbox LP in idle is drawing less ma than KK in idle, both are set up with stamina... same settings with sync, gps, and lte off, about 50% brightness... Go figure. I'm using both with Moly82'm debloated versions for comparison so that could have something to do with it. LP shows about 100 more apps when booting VS moly82's KK version too so that isn't factoring in as an advantage with battery life.
I'm also liking the ability for 32-bit audio output in lollipop which is wonderful and does make an audible improvement with Neutron, Camera mods for lollipop are better as far as I can tell, however now I can't play that Army of Darkness game.
I tried some MM versions and I hate the swipe for app search feature and the mods and tweaks I like aren't there yet so I will continue to wait on that, but it does seem like the smoothest version of all.
They are all giving me problems with the stock email attachment feature, is there something wrong with an update or something?

I held onto KK as long as possible until my phone had to be sent in for warranty due to a speaker failure. The Sony repair center loaded the latest version of LP onto my phone and it was actually bug free (unlike the early versions). However, it never had the battery life of KK. When using the phone, it had the same rate of battery drain as KK, but when idle, it seemed to drain twice as fast as KK. It seemed like Stamina mode in LP only gave me the equivalent battery life of KK without Stamina mode. SO, with KK, I could get 2 days of usage without stamina, and nearly 4 days with it. Both of those numbers were cut in half with LP.
I put up with it for as long as I could though until about two weeks ago. I finally flashed KK onto my phone again and WOW, it is refreshing to no longer worry about my battery throughout the day. Plus, the pull down notification menu in KK is way better! It's so annoying to have to swipe down twice in LP/MM/N. Plus, ticker style notifications are far less intrusive than the banner style in LP/MM/N. Finally, I just like the black background with white text that is displayed in the pull down menu. It seems so much cleaner to me than the grayish-green that LP/MM/N uses.
The one thing I miss about LP is the banner notification for phone calls when you're using the device. KK takes over the whole screen and is very intrusive. I downloaded an app that tries to mimic this LP feature, but it only works 80% of the time. I still plan to stick with KK until I upgrade to a new device in 2017.

techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.

kwstas 13 said:
Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.

I definitely think KK has the best battery and is the most stable, but I wish there were more (or any, really) camera mods for it. You have to be on at least LP for there to be any decent mods, although I do think KK has the smoothest image stabilization for video recording. However, image quality takes a big hit.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
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Hadn't mentioned that, guess I don't need this one. Kitkat still runs smoothly by the way.

So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?

charliebigpot said:
So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
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For me MM is the way to go, just flash any of custom stock based MM roms and run slimcore debloat, I'm having great battery performance lasting me whole day (i get 4-6h of sof with 70% of that beeing youtube) and it seems like the most fluid and eye pleasing experience, and for camera mods, I would only suggest unlocked camera, others are kinda gimmicky, but best and only way to find out what suits you is to try it yourself, you can see that in this thread only we have a lot of divided opinions.
Good luck

LG G4 slower than One Plus One?

I own both the OnePlus One and the LG G4. I put away my OPO after getting the G4. I love the G4's camera, but I've been disappointed by the stock ROM and its overall lag, disappointing battery life (< 2 hours SOT on average, and I don't do much) and lack of performance. Even basic things like logging in from the lockscreen shows noticeable lag.
I even tried some custom ROMs (based on stock or CM13) and they still have noticeable lag, and battery life isn't that much better. Did I mention the G4 gets hot regardless of ROM? I don't even play games. But when I do google maps for nav, it burns up.
As a test, I went back to my OPO and updated to a CM13 ROM (resurrection) and I'm amazed by how fluid it is. Battery life is also amazing at over 3hours SOT. It doesn't get that hot. The camera is subpar, but overall I like the experience.
I'm not a programmer of any type, but techy enough to flash ROMs.
My question is, why is this the case? The OPO has a 801 while the G4 has a 808 snapdragon. Is it the difference in display resolution, with the G4 pushing more pixels at 2k?
Has anyone successfully flashed any stable ROM that has no lag? If not, I'm looking to just get rid of this phone and keep the OPO.
Thanks in advance.

I have both and feel like the g4 is much faster. If your phone gets too buggy it may be the hardware failing. Happened to me twice.

ro_bro said:
I own both the OnePlus One and the LG G4. I put away my OPO after getting the G4. I love the G4's camera, but I've been disappointed by the stock ROM and its overall lag, disappointing battery life (< 2 hours SOT on average, and I don't do much) and lack of performance. Even basic things like logging in from the lockscreen shows noticeable lag.
I even tried some custom ROMs (based on stock or CM13) and they still have noticeable lag, and battery life isn't that much better. Did I mention the G4 gets hot regardless of ROM? I don't even play games. But when I do google maps for nav, it burns up.
As a test, I went back to my OPO and updated to a CM13 ROM (resurrection) and I'm amazed by how fluid it is. Battery life is also amazing at over 3hours SOT. It doesn't get that hot. The camera is subpar, but overall I like the experience.
I'm not a programmer of any type, but techy enough to flash ROMs.
My question is, why is this the case? The OPO has a 801 while the G4 has a 808 snapdragon. Is it the difference in display resolution, with the G4 pushing more pixels at 2k?
Has anyone successfully flashed any stable ROM that has no lag? If not, I'm looking to just get rid of this phone and keep the OPO.
Thanks in advance.
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i dont have OPO but mine on LP rooted i could get 4:30 SOT using facebook app.
on MM stock i got more then 3 hours..
noe on rooted and unlcoed bootloader on MM i can get like 4 hours using facebook app. as for lag i didnt notice any lag on stock roms. with anothe kernel it feels bettter.. from stock rooted stock kernel. i got 69k on antutu now with kernel i ve reached 74k..

OK so a positive update. In my 6 plus years of flashing ROMs, I've never had to wipe the 'internal storage'. But I decided what the heck, and tried it this time. I also did some of the 'resizing' mentioned here by @TURBO2012 (thx!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/development/turbo-cleaning-proceure-h811-t3417606
Then I installed a different cm13 based ROM (Resurrection ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/...tion-remix-t3395902/post67253333#post67253333) and now it's really silky smooth! I would have never imagined it, but no more wonky issues. I was getting random power offs before esp. after using the camera, the UI would freeze, and the phone would get extremely hot here and there, and battery life was horrible. But after following these methods, so far, very stable, no overheating, and the UI is smooth!
Wanted to give everyone an update in case you're having the same issues as I was.

Few questions concerning Resurrection Remix

Hi everybody,
as I'm new to all these flashing custom ROMs stuff, I would like to get answers to some questions concerning Resurrection Remix and the OnePlus 3T.
First of all, how stable is this ROM on said Smartphone? Comparable to Oxygen OS? Maybe even better?
Is the camera-quality as good as stock Oxygen OS?
Are OTA Updates provided or do I have to manually update new updates of Resurrection Remix?
Do I have to pay attention to something when flashing it on my vanilla OnePlus 3T (no root, just out-of-the-box)?
Thanks in advance!

The RR rom on the OP3T is awesome. Very stable, more than stock I'd say. Definitely feels smoother and faster. I made the OP3T into a near identical pixel experience (I had one). Battery life anecdotally seems to last longer. Like I said, it's awesome.
Camera is simply not as good and if you prioritize the camera this ROM is probably not for you. Photos are clear when gotten just right and the image quality is there after a separate file you need to flash, plus you can get the stock OP3T camera minus a few features (HDRa) and HD video recording at 60FPS I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But focus and shutter speed suffer, a lot.
I ran into a few apps that would not work properly, like Duo and a few others plus other XDA members mentioning apps don't work. This for me was a deal breaker. Had it not been for Duo, I'd still be on it. My family uses this extensively.
But.... This has to be expected. It's development after all. The customization options are amazing. I really like RR rom on this op3t. I'd say try it out.

RR is my favorite ROM on OP3T - it has tons of features and always works reliable. I update about every two weeks.

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RR is my favorite ROM on OP3T - it has tons of features and always works reliable. I update about every two weeks.
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I tried today ZeNiTy-Resurrection-Remix-N-[EAS]-[OMS]-[Optimized]-[3/3T] by ZeNiXxX, i think it's better for camera (OOs camera)

Reliable? Yes. As reliable as stock.
Camera? Eh, no. You lose slow motion video, HQ and you kinda lose HDR.
Ota? No. You have to flash. But you don't have to lose your data, you can dirty flash updates.
There are tutorials on how to flash stuff and what to look out for.

With the exception of the camera, the RR Rom is awesome and has tons of customization options. My favorite is the ability to even customize the carrier logo and battery status indicator. Super stable and buttery smooth.

Thanks a lot for your advices! Think I will stay with OxygenOS as camera-quality is pretty important for me.

Camera quality is important to me as well, so I tried out Oxygen-based FreedomOS. It's a great compromise between stock OxygenOS while still having some custom features. You don't get all the customization that you get with Lineage or RR, but you do get a few nice things, plus you can get uninstall OxygenOS default apps if you plan on replacing them with Google Apps. So far it's been my go-to.

I would personally say CM 13 is better than RR, CM 13 is MM based rom and all the apps including xposed are supported and theme engine is also available. unlike RR, camera is also good in CM13, battery life is also excellent about 7 to 9 hours of Screen on Time can be expected. I used RR for couple of weeks, there are of course bugs which will irritate us, you can opt CM13 in my opinion. If you want Anddoid N for the sake of having latest version, you can opt RR.