KK vs LP vs MM thinking of downgrading, what's the verdict? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?

scutterflux said:
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
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I kind of miss KitKat too and I did go back for a while, the reason I came back to MM Concept is because KitKat isn't perfect either. The notifications are miles better on LP and MM.
I agree that KitKat was simpler and Android 4.4.4 is probably my favorite version.
Antuntu and other benchmarks don't mean anything for daily use unless you play 3d games. There are videos on you tube showing that kitkat is faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx06yJMVT-U
Faster boot on kitkat was due to Dalvik, since Android 5.0 default runtime is ART. But I don't see why is that important, we don't boot our phone 10 times per day, do we?
I don't think there is a discussion on the forums about this, I would like to se it too but I think that people just jump to latest and greatest software...

Month ago I had Xperia Play wit GingerBread, now I have Z3C wit LP. I've tried LP and MM deeper. It's a big difference from GB. KK is much closer to GB, more "classic Android". Lolipop has much better SystemUI and almost all modifications is for LP. For KK there is only few mods for sound and that's all. I like KK cause backward compatibility too. On newer Android many older games like FIFA 12 are unplayable.
Time for Marshmallow will come in future. Today I don't see any advantage to use Android 6. There are no apps or games requiring it. Almost all apps want max 4.4. Speed or multitasking is in my opinion the same in all of the three versions - honestly Z3C has too much power that few percent in terms of performance is useless. The only reason to use MM is Xperia X camera framework in SLIMM 1.9 ROM (but this version is too buggy) - on the other hand, for Lolipop there are Z5 camera files.
Generaly the best from these three is (in my opinion) Lolipop. It looks nice, it's "reskined" Kittkat with some new and better features, has biggest fan support, it's stable, fast and complete - all features working as they should and nothing is missing. Almost all Xposed modules are compatible or has version that is compatible with Lolipop. Marhsmallow breaks the classic - some features are on different places, are little bit different at all and some of them aren't there completely (stamina - in latest build is only "something" like stamina; Dualshock 3 support and so on). There is to much to improve. Kittkat is for old school users, which want better compatibility with older apps or want to play SHIELD games, cause they don't run on Lolipop or Marshmallow in my case.

I just installed KK for a go, and it's pretty snappy, I don't miss lockscreen notifications from LP because I don't use them. All the functions I use are still there and with Xperia Xposed all the UI tweaks I like are still available. I'm not sure I'll notice an improvement in battery life because it was still pretty good on LP but I'll watch for that as most reports tend to favour KK in this department. I was thinking about what you (Miicheall) said about gaming, and there's this game I've been wanting to try for awhile (Army of Darkness Defence) and could never get it to work on LP, so I just installed it on KK and hey what do you know it works!

I have to correct myself - SHIELD games like Half-Life 2 or Portal are playable on Lollipop - on MM not. Many games working on KK but on higher version not. So good luck and have fun

KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.

techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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LP Is very stable, battery is great if you decide to take effort and install greenify and limit app permissions and wakelocks. Marshmallow honestly at this point is not that good with most users reporting the Doze feature being somewhat useless

You're having a laugh LP was the worst OS update by Google for some time, it's been beset with nothing but trouble.

I know this is not the norm according to reports but monitoring battery usage with 3c toolbox LP in idle is drawing less ma than KK in idle, both are set up with stamina... same settings with sync, gps, and lte off, about 50% brightness... Go figure. I'm using both with Moly82'm debloated versions for comparison so that could have something to do with it. LP shows about 100 more apps when booting VS moly82's KK version too so that isn't factoring in as an advantage with battery life.
I'm also liking the ability for 32-bit audio output in lollipop which is wonderful and does make an audible improvement with Neutron, Camera mods for lollipop are better as far as I can tell, however now I can't play that Army of Darkness game.
I tried some MM versions and I hate the swipe for app search feature and the mods and tweaks I like aren't there yet so I will continue to wait on that, but it does seem like the smoothest version of all.
They are all giving me problems with the stock email attachment feature, is there something wrong with an update or something?

I held onto KK as long as possible until my phone had to be sent in for warranty due to a speaker failure. The Sony repair center loaded the latest version of LP onto my phone and it was actually bug free (unlike the early versions). However, it never had the battery life of KK. When using the phone, it had the same rate of battery drain as KK, but when idle, it seemed to drain twice as fast as KK. It seemed like Stamina mode in LP only gave me the equivalent battery life of KK without Stamina mode. SO, with KK, I could get 2 days of usage without stamina, and nearly 4 days with it. Both of those numbers were cut in half with LP.
I put up with it for as long as I could though until about two weeks ago. I finally flashed KK onto my phone again and WOW, it is refreshing to no longer worry about my battery throughout the day. Plus, the pull down notification menu in KK is way better! It's so annoying to have to swipe down twice in LP/MM/N. Plus, ticker style notifications are far less intrusive than the banner style in LP/MM/N. Finally, I just like the black background with white text that is displayed in the pull down menu. It seems so much cleaner to me than the grayish-green that LP/MM/N uses.
The one thing I miss about LP is the banner notification for phone calls when you're using the device. KK takes over the whole screen and is very intrusive. I downloaded an app that tries to mimic this LP feature, but it only works 80% of the time. I still plan to stick with KK until I upgrade to a new device in 2017.

techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.

kwstas 13 said:
Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.

I definitely think KK has the best battery and is the most stable, but I wish there were more (or any, really) camera mods for it. You have to be on at least LP for there to be any decent mods, although I do think KK has the smoothest image stabilization for video recording. However, image quality takes a big hit.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
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Hadn't mentioned that, guess I don't need this one. Kitkat still runs smoothly by the way.

So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?

charliebigpot said:
So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
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For me MM is the way to go, just flash any of custom stock based MM roms and run slimcore debloat, I'm having great battery performance lasting me whole day (i get 4-6h of sof with 70% of that beeing youtube) and it seems like the most fluid and eye pleasing experience, and for camera mods, I would only suggest unlocked camera, others are kinda gimmicky, but best and only way to find out what suits you is to try it yourself, you can see that in this thread only we have a lot of divided opinions.
Good luck

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[Q] CM11 vs. Sony's stock ROM - what are all features / mods we lose?

Hey folks!
I'm really loving my Sony Xperia Z1 after all the mods I've installed, such as 4K and 120fps video, Pen Mod and even stereo loudspeaker support.
Now my phone is getting a little sluggish, and since I've always loved Stock Android I'm seriously thinking about putting Cyanogenmod on it. I've done this a lot on my previous Xperia S but I've always reverted back to the OEM's stock version, even though it may have been slower.
Mostly because whenever I choose a ROM, I lose more features than I'm getting. So right now if I were to put Cyanogenmod on the Z1, I already know the camera is going to be much worse. But I might be able to live with that. Now I only need to know if I can still have stereo loudspeaker support, and even 120fps slow motion video somehow. It should be possible...
So I'm hoping this thread can be a general thread on all differences between Sony's stock KitKat ROM and CM11.
If you're running CM11, please do tell me all about it. Do you prefer it to Sony's KitKat? Is there any functionality you're really missing? Are you even able to flash any Z1 mods? And is CM11 actually as fast as stock Android on the Nexus 5 with the same chipset for example?
Thanks a bunch in advance! I'll make sure to press the 'thanks' button if you can help me out here :angel:
Would like to have a first hand experience as well.
How I see it:
Good:
Light Rom
Xposed not needed, so ART works
Custom recovery with nandroid backup
AOSP keyboard
Bad:
More bugs to be expected
No stock camera app/quality
Currently the cons are kind of keeping me from doing it.
ugh the themes are so flawless! I wish I had the guts to do the switch, but I take too many pics =(
think you miss out on STAMINA mode as well?
Can anyone share the battery life on (the latest) Cyanogenmod?
Currently I'm getting 4 hours of screen on time on Stamina mode. Anything less would be insanely low, and anything higher would be interesting :cyclops:
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Can anyone share the battery life on (the latest) Cyanogenmod?
Currently I'm getting 4 hours of screen on time on Stamina mode. Anything less would be insanely low, and anything higher would be interesting :cyclops:
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Tried Cyanogenmod 11 M9 and M10 for a month, and I'm officially back to Sony stock ROM.
Main reasons:
- Battery life, I get over 4 hours screen time using Sony stock ROM, vs 2 and a half hours using Cyanogenmod
- Camera, yes, definitely, even if Sony doesn't have perfect algorithms, the picture quality difference is abysmal between both ROM's.
- STAMINA mode, self explanatory.
- Updates, lately, Sony has improved the update cycle for the applications and OS, Z1 was the first non-Nexus device to get Kit Kat 4.4.4
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Tried Cyanogenmod 11 M9 and M10 for a month, and I'm officially back to Sony stock ROM.
Main reasons:
- Battery life, I get over 4 hours screen time using Sony stock ROM, vs 2 and a half hours using Cyanogenmod
- Camera, yes, definitely, even if Sony doesn't have perfect algorithms, the picture quality difference is abysmal between both ROM's.
- STAMINA mode, self explanatory.
- Updates, lately, Sony has improved the update cycle for the applications and OS, Z1 was the first non-Nexus device to get Kit Kat 4.4.4
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Thanks for the details!
This is why I recommend Sony to all my non-modding friends. The stock rom is actually usable and not significantly worse than AOSP
Currently with Xposed there is absolutely not a feature I am missing against CM.
cm :good:
have app2sd theme more free more speed more customize and here is my battery slimkat rom

[Q] Do any TouchWiz ROMs (i.e. FireKat) really speed up the phone?

I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
Yes, it makes a huge difference.
To go into a bit more detail for ya, yes they do help. Most of the custom roms have been de-bloated and tweaked for "power users" for lack of a better term. They have been adjusted to allow better usability and eliminate some of the useless features. Some devs (not all, be sure to do your research and read the boards) but extra effort into making their roms perform better and allow customization. Be warned though, from my experience, with more customizations and tweaks to appearance you will take a hit to performance.
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
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Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
Maybe everyone can submit performance benchmarks here.
how about this, I used Nova Launcher when im not rooted but when I am rooted (like now running firekat) im on TW all the way.
Don't go by benchmarks, go by feel. Like someone said above read through the different Dev posts and in most, people have done what your talking about and posted numbers. To the original poster, FireKat is awesome. Mega does an incredible job and its definitely worth trying his efforts if you don't mind flashing. The speed difference as well as battery performance is nothing short of incredible on this device. I've tried many different ROMs and always come back to this one.
Of course your experience may vary, but that's what's so awesome is the ability to try a different ROM. Like you, I have a TMobile Note 4 on AT&T. Fortunately for us there are many talented devs for this phone which gives us many options. Give them a try and see for yourself, and trust me, you won't be disappointed.
Just do yourself a favor and don't go by benchmark numbers, and go by what you feel is the fastest and smoothest. Numbers are artificial and change so often that it's much better in my opinion to feel for yourself.
Good luck and enjoy the device man, it's awesome.
I am a power user. I have a gear vr. None of the custom ROMs support vr. I have a backup nandroid of stock ROM, whenever I want to use vr, I nandrood back to it. Daily driver is cm12.
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
Ugh. Gear VR doesn't work on FireKat?
I've been reading the thread and it says that it would work with a custom kernel. Has anybody tried that?
yes, it's my favorite ROM so far.
lamuertex said:
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I haven't had connectivity issues like some may be experiencing.
sofakng said:
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
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If you want to speed up the appearance of your phone...make it snappier....go into Developer settings and reduce all animations to 0.5 or turn them off completely. It makes a big difference.
Firekat + AEL kernal = ROM bliss with VR function.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
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Really ten times? Not even close to twice as fast, maybe half as fast. While Firekat and Dynamic Rom are faster than stock touchwiz......Slim roms or Cyanogenmod are the only thing that REALLY speed up the phone. Touchwiz will always be touchwiz
It's more of a speed upgrade than that. Mega has been tweaking the speed for 9 versions. He's got skills.
Do any of the ROMs speed up gaming at all?
For example, I also have an iPhone 6 Plus and several games are silky smooth on it (Galaxy On Fire 2 HD, Terraria, Shadowgun), but on the Note 4 the performance is much lower. It's not horrible, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS. (note: this isn't meant to disrespect Android or the Note 4, but I'm honestly wondering about the difference because I have both phones and compare them side-by-side)
I think what you may really be looking for is a custom kernel. A lot of them are in original android development. I can link you to others.
I'm testing hyperdrive rom today on this phone, however and just downloaded those games. Very zippy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919441
We'll pretend you didn't just admit you have an iPhone.

LG G4 slower than One Plus One?

I own both the OnePlus One and the LG G4. I put away my OPO after getting the G4. I love the G4's camera, but I've been disappointed by the stock ROM and its overall lag, disappointing battery life (< 2 hours SOT on average, and I don't do much) and lack of performance. Even basic things like logging in from the lockscreen shows noticeable lag.
I even tried some custom ROMs (based on stock or CM13) and they still have noticeable lag, and battery life isn't that much better. Did I mention the G4 gets hot regardless of ROM? I don't even play games. But when I do google maps for nav, it burns up.
As a test, I went back to my OPO and updated to a CM13 ROM (resurrection) and I'm amazed by how fluid it is. Battery life is also amazing at over 3hours SOT. It doesn't get that hot. The camera is subpar, but overall I like the experience.
I'm not a programmer of any type, but techy enough to flash ROMs.
My question is, why is this the case? The OPO has a 801 while the G4 has a 808 snapdragon. Is it the difference in display resolution, with the G4 pushing more pixels at 2k?
Has anyone successfully flashed any stable ROM that has no lag? If not, I'm looking to just get rid of this phone and keep the OPO.
Thanks in advance.
I have both and feel like the g4 is much faster. If your phone gets too buggy it may be the hardware failing. Happened to me twice.
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I own both the OnePlus One and the LG G4. I put away my OPO after getting the G4. I love the G4's camera, but I've been disappointed by the stock ROM and its overall lag, disappointing battery life (< 2 hours SOT on average, and I don't do much) and lack of performance. Even basic things like logging in from the lockscreen shows noticeable lag.
I even tried some custom ROMs (based on stock or CM13) and they still have noticeable lag, and battery life isn't that much better. Did I mention the G4 gets hot regardless of ROM? I don't even play games. But when I do google maps for nav, it burns up.
As a test, I went back to my OPO and updated to a CM13 ROM (resurrection) and I'm amazed by how fluid it is. Battery life is also amazing at over 3hours SOT. It doesn't get that hot. The camera is subpar, but overall I like the experience.
I'm not a programmer of any type, but techy enough to flash ROMs.
My question is, why is this the case? The OPO has a 801 while the G4 has a 808 snapdragon. Is it the difference in display resolution, with the G4 pushing more pixels at 2k?
Has anyone successfully flashed any stable ROM that has no lag? If not, I'm looking to just get rid of this phone and keep the OPO.
Thanks in advance.
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i dont have OPO but mine on LP rooted i could get 4:30 SOT using facebook app.
on MM stock i got more then 3 hours..
noe on rooted and unlcoed bootloader on MM i can get like 4 hours using facebook app. as for lag i didnt notice any lag on stock roms. with anothe kernel it feels bettter.. from stock rooted stock kernel. i got 69k on antutu now with kernel i ve reached 74k..
OK so a positive update. In my 6 plus years of flashing ROMs, I've never had to wipe the 'internal storage'. But I decided what the heck, and tried it this time. I also did some of the 'resizing' mentioned here by @TURBO2012 (thx!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/development/turbo-cleaning-proceure-h811-t3417606
Then I installed a different cm13 based ROM (Resurrection ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/...tion-remix-t3395902/post67253333#post67253333) and now it's really silky smooth! I would have never imagined it, but no more wonky issues. I was getting random power offs before esp. after using the camera, the UI would freeze, and the phone would get extremely hot here and there, and battery life was horrible. But after following these methods, so far, very stable, no overheating, and the UI is smooth!
Wanted to give everyone an update in case you're having the same issues as I was.

Moto X 2014 still worth buying???

Hi.
I've been looking at quite a number of new phones recently deciding that its the time to upgrade. I bought a Oneplus Two but sold it on after it was just too big and heavy for me. Its was overkill for what I needed really. I currently have a Moto X 2013 which I love but development on XDA has pretty much stalled. I have been looking at the Moto X 2014 as it can be picked up new for a good price over here in the UK.
So would you say its still worth buying even now?
Cheers.
I think this phone is pretty unique, even if some people would consider it an "old" device, so I'd still recommend buying it if one is looking for an original approach to android.
A Snapdragon 801, a nice FHD AMOLED, a mean front speaker, an ergonomic and original design with sturdy build quality are definitely its main objectively strong points.
It's got some flaws, such as a slightly subpar camera and a small battery (which will still last the canonical 16 hours, mind you).
What sets this phone apart from others, however, is the IR and motion sensors paired with always-on speech recognition, which will give you surprisingly reliable functionality on a stock ROM, but those are unfortunately stuck at 6.0... If I had to choose one flaw in this phone, it'd be Lenovo's fault.
It's not like gestures and voice recognition don't work in custom ROMs, they do, but it's not the same level of optimization (I've explained it more than once in lengthy and boring posts like this one )
Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
I think so. I just bought a new one (XT1096) with 64Gb off ebay. The shipping was slow, but worth the wait. It came from Hong Kong. My old one was 32 Gb. The battery wasn't holding well and BT was kind of flaky. I also bought a new Moto G4 for my wife. It's a great phone, but it's too big for me. I loved my old Ghost too. I was the perfect size.
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Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
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I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
GustavoAvellar said:
I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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Are you sure its better than Lineage OS? How much Screen On Time you usually get? How nuch you get on Antutu Benchmark?
I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I heard some people complained about camera issues, do you have any?
Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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What about 4K? Why you are not recording on 4K?
i woudn't buy it at the moment... i would consider a xiaomi. this one is not supported by qualcomm anymore so... it's better to buy something newer (2015 or more)

Does rooting the phone or installing a custom ROM slow it down?

I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
I guess it depends on the ROM, kernel and settings. For example I have a gs2 running 4.4.4 custom rom that's more stable and with better performance than the stock gingerbread with which came out (also Samsung didn't update it to 4.4.4 because the hardware weren't enough to run 4.4.4), so draw your conclusion
androidman2018 said:
I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
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STOCK ROM vs CUSTOM ROM, everyone has different opinions, no one can say what will you like and what you should install. It's your choice for what to do.
If you do install stuff, experience them and decide what is better for you..
For STOCK,
It's developed by Lenovo/Moto officials and by TEAM, the reason why it's STOCK, means it will be most stable.
Many one prefer to use stock rom with root and few additional tweaks like custom kernel / deodexed / debloated. And doing such thing does not affects performance but removing unnecessary apps and stoping them to run in background helps in smooth and better battery performance.
There is XPOSED FRAMEWORK, which modifies device at large level, installing and modification to system such thing can only affects device performance in respective manner of how you use it...
For CUSTOM,
It's developed by TEAM, but maintained by individual device maintainers (which is less in number). That's reason custom roms are buggy at starting, but as time passes, many improvements are made and we will have best custom experience in our device.
Currently i am using AOSP-Extended and it's stable enough for me to use daily..
As i said in first line, everyone thinks different, and this is my thoughts...
androidman2018 said:
I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
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I AM using pixel experience with custom Kernel and works better than Stock rom
Related question, not really about slowing down though:
Anyone noticed a worse quality in the picture taken after unlocking their bootloader and using custom ROMs and kernels ?
I'm asking this cause Sony tends to have a weird policy that nice "goodies" are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked (X-Reality not working anymore, picture quality much worse especially in low light conditions/proprietary picture processing algorithm removed, DSEE HX (?) not working anymore and others)
Many thanks in advance
zacharias.maladroit said:
Related question, not really about slowing down though:
Anyone noticed a worse quality in the picture taken after unlocking their bootloader and using custom ROMs and kernels ?
I'm asking this cause Sony tends to have a weird policy that nice "goodies" are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked (X-Reality not working anymore, picture quality much worse especially in low light conditions/proprietary picture processing algorithm removed, DSEE HX (?) not working anymore and others)
Many thanks in advance
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I can see Sony doing that - they have no sense of humor!
But considering stock camera app is simply shyte, anything is better. Google camera does a far better job - under good conditions. Unfortunately those are the only conditions this sensor will take a decent pic in. The usual for a low end sensor/lens setup - decent light decent pics - bad light bad pics. Nothing will change that.

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