Hello all,
This week I took delivery of a red-leather-backed G4, the H815 "international" model, ordered online in Switzerland. I was surprised to find out (it was never promoted) that inside the box was a second back -- plastic, gold/champagne color, with what seems to be a clear glossy overlay on the middle of its back.
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I've shot it from an angle to try to show the shape of the glossy area.
Is this the usual plastic cover? If not, does anyone have any idea what it is? And Is anyone else getting a spare cover in their leather G4 box?
This is the original gold plastic cover.
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I receive the same thing with my brown leather g4 bought on Amazon Italia
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Did you buy it from Amazon or from an Amazon merchant, and if the latter, what is the name of the merchant? If they ship internationally, I may just buy from them. I'm on the fence between the ebay sellers and Amazon sellers.
This extra cover always comes with the phone
Withoutab said:
This extra cover always comes with the phone
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Not true. The US Tmobile brown leather variant does not come with the extra cover.
coolmaster121 said:
Not true. The US Tmobile brown leather variant does not come with the extra cover.
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Sorry, I meant it always comes with the h815 international version
Withoutab said:
Sorry, I meant it always comes with the h815 international version
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Not the Chinese edition. Sellers mostly sell the Chinese? H815 to the US; whether they are falsely advertising the H815T is another issue. If the seller with European H815 is available on our ebay or Amazon, I would like to know. I have not received any responses to inquiries sent to them.
throwaway11111 said:
Not the Chinese edition. Sellers mostly sell the Chinese? H815 to the US; whether they are falsely advertising the H815T is another issue. If the seller with European H815 is available on our ebay or Amazon, I would like to know. I have not received any responses to inquiries sent to them.
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Please note that the h815T (honkong version) is not the h815 international version
throwaway11111 said:
Did you buy it from Amazon or from an Amazon merchant, and if the latter, what is the name of the merchant? If they ship internationally, I may just buy from them. I'm on the fence between the ebay sellers and Amazon sellers.
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Bought from Amazon himself
http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00...F8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H&tag=dealabs05-21
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Withoutab said:
Please note that the h815T (honkong version) is not the h815 international version
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As I noted in my original text, there are allegedly multiple versions of H815, including the T and apparently non-T Asian variants. Most of the H815s from ebay sellers are from Singapore.
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As I noted in my original text, there are allegedly multiple versions of H815, including the T and apparently non-T Asian variants. Most of the H815s from ebay sellers are from Singapore.
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Yup so these are not h815 international version
Withoutab said:
Yup so these are not h815 international version
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How can you tell? They are literally being sold as "H815," marked and advertised as such. In fact, according to the listings, the Singapore variant looks to have even more LTE bands than the Euro version.
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How can you tell?
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As you said, if it says h815 asian version or h815T, then it's not h815 international version. When you're buying from an asian seller, you're probably going to get the asian version. (makes sense right?) the h815 asian version may or may not come with the extra cover, while the h815 international version does come with it.
Withoutab said:
As you said, if it says h815 asian version or h815T, then it's not h815 international version. When you're buying from an asian seller, you're probably going to get the asian version. (makes sense right?) the h815 asian version may or may not come with the extra cover, while the h815 international version does come with it.
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Okay, you're misunderstanding me then. They are fully advertising these as H815 international. There is no 'Chinese edition' or sub-model variant (e.g. T) indicated in most of these sellers' advertisements, and most are not from Taiwan. H815 specifically is the 'international' variant. Also, their advertisements explicitly state their items are "International" editions. Without any evidence to the contrary, one can conclude there is simply more than one variant of the international edition labeled simply as "H815." That is why I originally mentioned false advertisement being a whole different issue, if that is what is actually happening.
throwaway11111 said:
Okay, you're misunderstanding me then. They are fully advertising these as H815 international. There is no 'Chinese edition' or sub-model variant (e.g. T) indicated in most of these sellers' advertisements, and most are not from Taiwan. H815 specifically is the 'international' variant. Also, their advertisements explicitly state their items are "International" editions. Without any evidence to the contrary, one can conclude there is simply more than one variant of the international edition labeled simply as "H815." That is why I originally mentioned false advertisement being a whole different issue, if that is what is actually happening.
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hmm I guess you could check by looking at the bands, I'm not sure they are different between h815 asian and h815 international, but they deffinately are between h815 international and f500 for exemple.
h815 international bands are:
gsm 850/900/1800/1900
wcdma 850/900/1900/2100
lte 700(b28)/700(b17)/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
atleast that's what it says on my box, and I have the h815 international version with black leather back. also, I think the extra cover only comes with the leather back versions.
Withoutab said:
hmm I guess you could check by looking at the bands, I'm not sure they are different between h815 asian and h815 international, but they deffinately are between h815 international and f500 for exemple.
h815 international bands are:
gsm 850/900/1800/1900
wcdma 850/900/1900/2100
lte 700(b28)/700(b17)/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
atleast that's what it says on my box, and I have the h815 international version with black leather back. also, I think the extra cover only comes with the leather back versions.
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Yeah, true. It's just annoying tracking down the right phone. I wish there was simply one version of the phone for the entire world, with every single band enabled! Wishful thinking.
throwaway11111 said:
Did you buy it from Amazon or from an Amazon merchant, and if the latter, what is the name of the merchant? If they ship internationally, I may just buy from them. I'm on the fence between the ebay sellers and Amazon sellers.
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Sorry, I thought that I had posted a reply, but I guess I didn't actually press 'post'. I've been distracted packing for a trip.
I bought mine from a Swiss online retailer, digitec.ch. Delivery was literally next day. (There is no Amazon in Switzerland, 'amazon.ch' just redirects to the German site.)
I can say with reasonable certainty, based on looking at the box in front of me, that this is indeed the H815 (International) version.
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I'm seriously considering getting the original/European rather than grab AT&T's version but had a question about whether the LTE would work here since rather than specify a band most spec sheets I've seen just say '4G - LTE *' and the * means 'region specific'. I found a post here or there where people mention being able to get it going with an OS hack of some sort but was hoping for confirmation.
I want the 1.4ghz Exynos processor and the extra band that got cut out for the US version since I plan to visit Europe on occasion. The 1.5ghz one that AT&T crammed in there I've seen reports and benchmarks with it performing worse and having less battery life than the original. Why they changed it I have no clue, but if possible I'd prefer to have the original hardware
You will NEVER get LTE with the International version of the Note N7000..Thats the reason why the AT&T version doesnt use Exynos because its not compadible with LTE..
You will get 4G/H or whatever AT&T likes to call it though.
MrDSL said:
You will NEVER get LTE with the International version of the Note N7000..Thats the reason why the AT&T version doesnt use Exynos because its not compadible with LTE..
You will get 4G/H or whatever AT&T likes to call it though.
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Interesting, I didn't know that... so HSPA+ or what-not?
So what's this version of the phone then? It's 1.4ghz processor but A9 instead of Exynos (unless I'm missing connections between names), and lists LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php - with a release date of 10/2011 I had assumed it was the European (Exynos) version.
tigerknight said:
Interesting, I didn't know that... so HSPA+ or what-not?
So what's this version of the phone then? It's 1.4ghz processor but A9 instead of Exynos (unless I'm missing connections between names), and lists LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php - with a release date of 10/2011 I had assumed it was the European (Exynos) version.
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right..hspa+
i think the Koreon Note has LTE also so maybe thats the one you're referring to..I cant access that web site from work.
I just looked at the website and they are calling it the N7000 model for sure. But, that's weird that they say it has LTE. Do some N7000s have LTE while others don't?
I bought my Note on Ebay and pretty sure it doesn't have LTE. But, ATT doesn't have LTE here.
i believe the korean version is the same as the att version.
Hmm - so where would I look in order to find the model with the Exynos processor, and what would that make the model type - still GT-n7000, or some XX-n7000 version?
the shv-e160l ( thanks for the correction sutekidane) ver is the korean one. unsure if the lte freq is the same that att is using. the n7000 is the euro one. ebay korea might have the 9220.. i havent seen it anywhere as ive been trying to get a pink one... but just my experience as ive owned the att ver and the n7000 and i sold the att one. my 7000 preformed as fast and just was overall not as quirky...
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the i9220 ver is the korean one.
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Incorrect.
The Korean version is SHV-E160L or SHV-E160S.
It is packed with the Qualcomm chipset (LTE and NFC) and it uses a micro-SIM. Its exterior is 100% identical to the N7000.
The I9220 is the very early release's model number, then Samsung decided to rename it to the N7000. So the I9220 and N7000 are identical. The I9220 ICS leaks we use are mainly leaked from mainland China, therefore it is heavily Chinese-based. Also, the N7000 is not necessarily the "euro" version, either. It is actually referred as the "international" version as it is sold everywhere including Asia.
How I know? I bought one off eBay for really cheap awhile ago. Then I realised it only takes micro-SIM, so I sold it right away.
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my note has both 9220 and n7000 on the back label... sorry for the mis info on the post... long day..lol
Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
tigerknight said:
Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
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The standard GT-N700 has the Exynos in it. The LTE model is packing a qualcomm chip set. What is more important to you? Phone performance or data speed?
You can order from expansys or negri electronics.
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The standard GT-N700 has the Exynos in it. The LTE model is packing a qualcomm chip set. What is more important to you? Phone performance or data speed?
You can order from expansys or negri electronics.
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I currently have an Epic 4g (slider, not touch), and in the past year and a half of use I've made use of the 4g wi-max less than a dozen times. 3g network + wi-fi has been more than adequate for me, where battery and cpu performance have been a lacking a bit (I love my Epic, but it's not a dual core and the stock battery can barely make it through a day of moderate use).
That is what made me interested in the Exynos from the start, better battery life and actual performance output than the 1.5ghz processor that AT&T put in. LTE would be icing on the cake but is not at the heart of the matter for me - so long as an Exynos phone would work on US carriers for at least 3g network and it sounds like I could get the quasi-4g HSPA+ if I did that route.
Looked on negri and expansys and not having luck finding listings which explicitly state Exynos processor - don't suppose you could sport me a link?
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Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
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I would argue that the international version is better overall (for me anyway). The Exynos is arguably the better overall chipset vs the Qualcomm. Both use the A9 architecture.
The reason I prefer the international version though is that the development has more momentum because it has been available for longer, and more people have it around the world; it's not as proprietary.
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I would argue that the international version is better overall (for me anyway). The Exynos is arguably the better overall chipset vs the Qualcomm. Both use the A9 architecture.
The reason I prefer the international version though is that the development has more momentum because it has been available for longer, and more people have it around the world; it's not as proprietary.
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So how can you tell if it's the Exynos or Qualcomm chip? So far the only thing I can think of to check is the speed; if it's 1.4 dual core it's Exynos, anything else is Qualcomm. Most listings I've seen just say 'A9' and that sounds like it could be either one.
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So how can you tell if it's the Exynos or Qualcomm chip? So far the only thing I can think of to check is the speed; if it's 1.4 dual core it's Exynos, anything else is Qualcomm. Most listings I've seen just say 'A9' and that sounds like it could be either one.
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If it is a GT N7000 it has Exynos this model comes with no other chipset.
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-galaxy-note.html#.T48f_LtZ6fI
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lamou1nr said:
If it is a GT N7000 it has Exynos this model comes with no other chipset.
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-galaxy-note.html#.T48f_LtZ6fI
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Cool, thanks. Looking through the specs, NFC is 'optional'?
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i believe the korean version is the same as the att version.
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You are wrong. (edit: this has already been sorted out).
If you are willing to pay the money for a 4g plan it might make sense to go for the ATT version. You will save a lot of money (400 dollars or so) outright.
If you are satisfied with 3g only, you may be better off with the international version+ straight talk (in the US that is)
I have an N7000 on ATT works fine. Sure no LTE but I usually get 4+Mbps down and I have seen 8Mbps. That's plenty fast for me. So far LTE has been a battery sucker on Android.
Don't be so quick to jump on Straight talk, some people complain about strict terms of service and very low daily data usage. I'm not bad mouthing Straight Talk, just suggesting you read up.
I'm all for cheap plans. If I had to do it over again, I would buy an ATT Note, mod for TMobile and get the Walmart 100min/5GB plan for $30. I'm not much of a phone talker, I use data mostly. I currently use an unlimited Data ATT Sim but having some phone minutes would be nice.
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Cool, thanks. Looking through the specs, NFC is 'optional'?
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It has no NFC.
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I have the D802 international model. I want to buy a good case for it. when i search the web there are few cases that fits T-mobile/AT&T/Verizon. I know that verizon are not compatible for my device. what about T-mobile/AT&T? which one is suits best for the international D802 model?
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I have the D802 international model. I want to buy a good case for it. when i search the web there are few cases that fits T-mobile/AT&T/Verizon. I know that verizon are not compatible for my device. what about T-mobile/AT&T? which one is suits best for the international D802 model?
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I jut bought one in the UK for my international model. Description stated for all models except Verizon but alas it does not fit. Gonna be pot luck I think
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I have the D802 international model. I want to buy a good case for it. when i search the web there are few cases that fits T-mobile/AT&T/Verizon. I know that verizon are not compatible for my device. what about T-mobile/AT&T? which one is suits best for the international D802 model?
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I am guessing if a case doesnt fit verizon and the one youre looking at does, but also tmobile and AT&T then all cases for AT&T and Tmobile also wont fit. Verizon model is wider I think.
All the big case company like incipio and ballistic make cases for this model and not for the international. I think I will have to wait alot of time till there will be high qualety case for the international model. I realy want to try the incipio dualpro case but i dont want to wast my money on a case that wont fit.
This really sucks. I never understood this fixation from the US companies to alter the phones and make it incompatible with tons of stuff.. Sure, they can sell their own accessories in a larger quantity, but how many customers do they lose instead?
It's frustrating when you live in Europe.. It's as if many companies even forget that there is something like a country that's not the USA, and in many cases that there are phones besides iphone. More accessories to the people!
I bought this case: www dot ebay dot nl/itm/Flip-case-for-LG-G2-D802-D802TA-with-S-view-Auto-wake-sleep-function-sensor-/200969510257 (sorry for that URL, I'm a new member so apperantly I can't post URLs....
It looks really interesting, especially because it has that QuickWindow thingy, which I haven't seen before on these kind of third party cases.
neoxkid said:
I have the D802 international model. I want to buy a good case for it. when i search the web there are few cases that fits T-mobile/AT&T/Verizon. I know that verizon are not compatible for my device. what about T-mobile/AT&T? which one is suits best for the international D802 model?
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I just searched yesterday in Indonesia, and there were two cases. I got one that is from Korea (voia.co.kr) and is a QuickWindow case. It is exactly like the official LG G2 case, except cheaper!
The only other one I saw that was interesting was on Amazon. It is a QuickWindow case, but instead of hard plastic for backing, it is completely leather and can be used as a stand. But I prefer the hard casing because I would just be afraid of dropping the leather version. It is also not compatible with Verizon.
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I am guessing if a case doesnt fit verizon and the one youre looking at does, but also tmobile and AT&T then all cases for AT&T and Tmobile also wont fit. Verizon model is wider I think.
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Am i missing something here? How is it even possible that the same phone now has different dimensions depending on regions/carriers? I thought only the branding and stock software were manipulated for the US carriers. Has this been done before for previous phones? I buy only international unlocked models, so i'm not aware what goes on with the US carriers.
So, LG apparently designed two (maybe there's more?) different sizes of their flagship phone? What is actually different? Is it just the physical size? Is there any difference in hardware that would justify the different sizes? Can someone please provide more details about all the different LG G2 models and compare their differences?
Back on topic: IF you have the international model, this should fit http://www.otterbox.com/Commuter-Se...?dwvar_lgx4-g2_color =20&start=1&cgid=lgx4-g2 although it clearly states "NOT compatible with the LG G2 (Verizon)".
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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The turbo covers hsdpa 850 so it should work fine on 3g. You'd just need to add the correct apn
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Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.
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Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.
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Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650
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Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650
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Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
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Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
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Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?
Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
Best in the world !! Turbo
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Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?
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As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html
Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html
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You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Galaxo60 said:
I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?
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Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?
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The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.
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The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.
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Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?
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Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?
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As far as I know, it will be Mexico and Brazil for now, and some other countries maybe next year.
wolfgart said:
Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
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hello friend, friend where I buy the DROID TURBO ???
thank you
Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
Edit: here is the picture of rear box showing that it is not giving any information on the supported LTE band nor if modem is cat 6 or 9.
Edit 2: Samsung Thailand is mentioning all supported bands but no mention if cat 6 or 9:
http://www.samsung.com/th/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-note/SM-N920CZDATHL
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
sambenet said:
Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
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did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
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tallazzPilipino said:
did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
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Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
sambenet said:
Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
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I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
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tallazzPilipino said:
I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
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Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
sambenet said:
Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
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tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
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As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
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tallazzPilipino said:
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
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You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
Raspail said:
You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
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according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
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tallazzPilipino said:
according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
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but according to this...
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You can check pdadb for this info
tallazzPilipino said:
tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
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Default language was french on mine
And no, sm-920c is not a dual sim model. The sm-920cd is. I can try the dialer code you have to check the supported frequencies
KarimSalloum said:
You can check pdadb for this info
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This website seems indeed very complete. But unfortunately, SM-N920C is not (yet?) listed.
Raspail said:
As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
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Thanks for this, I think this is the only link from Samsung listing the SM-N920C officially with the supported LTE bands mentioned. But even if we suppose that all the information are correct, still one huge information is missing: is it a category 6 or 9? ... When we put 800 dollars on a device, Samsung needs to understand that this might be important for a client to know if his device will be still up-to-date in 1 or 2 years and category 9 modem gives this guarantee. (even if the 6 is also a top notch today)
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
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This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
tallazzPilipino said:
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
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Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
Raspail said:
This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
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I really can not trust any seller online... especially on eBay... when most of the time they do not even know what they are talking about... Few weeks ago, I sent an email to an ebay seller asking him about the LTE bands and cat 6 or 9... His reply? All about payment and logistics... yeahh ok all right thanks man of course your only goal is to sell... and when you understand that... you understand everything.....
Official source from Samsung or technical test on the device are the 2 only sources I would trust... (and even Samsung already made many mistakes on their website so... )
sambenet said:
Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
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i totally understand. i'm the same way with my cameras having the latest of certain features. but for phones, i sort of think of them as disposable after a year or two. haha
what part of the middle east? my gf (international flight attendant) was first assigned in NYC where i first met her, but has since been transferred to Istanbul, and now Riyadh. it'll be about another 2 years before she can come back to NYC [emoji45]. it's actually why i bought her an unlocked international S6 duos for all her traveling. i travel domestically for work, too, and is why i have the N5 duos and all these separate services.
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Hey guys, didn't wanna hijack the similar thread re: AT&T but wondering if anyone has any firsthand experience on either the Dual Sim Snapdragon version with 256GB or the Single Sim Emperor Edition with 256GB. I would put model numbers here but I'm kinda confused from the eBay listings I'm seeing that say it could be one of several (in some cases at random! LOL.)
Anyway, just wondering if anyone had positive experiences. Can't quite bring myself to go from an S8+ to a 64GB Note 8, even with the Note 7 upgrade deal, but I MIGHT consider the 256GB one. Still, wondering if I should hold off and wait for the V30 and/or Pixel 2 at this point. First world problems, I know. What can I say, I'm a chronic early adopter!
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kberk001 said:
Hey guys, didn't wanna hijack the similar thread re: AT&T but wondering if anyone has any firsthand experience on either the Dual Sim Snapdragon version with 256GB or the Single Sim Emperor Edition with 256GB. I would put model numbers here but I'm kinda confused from the eBay listings I'm seeing that say it could be one of several (in some cases at random! LOL.)
Anyway, just wondering if anyone had positive experiences. Can't quite bring myself to go from an S8+ to a 64GB Note 8, even with the Note 7 upgrade deal, but I MIGHT consider the 256GB one. Still, wondering if I should hold off and wait for the V30 and/or Pixel 2 at this point. First world problems, I know. What can I say, I'm a chronic early adopter!
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Mine works perfectly on T-Mobile. :good:
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Mine works perfectly on T-Mobile. :good:
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i still can't find a korean version for sale even 64gb that i can buy. i can't stand this locked bootloader.
masri1987 said:
i still can't find a korean version for sale even 64gb that i can buy. i can't stand this locked bootloader.
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This is the seller I bought mine from, got it 36 hours after clicking the Buy It Now button: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-256GB-SM-N950-Black-Blue-Factory-Unlocked-w-FedEx/232496841526
Kalm_Traveler said:
This is the seller I bought mine from, got it 36 hours after clicking the Buy It Now button: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-256GB-SM-N950-Black-Blue-Factory-Unlocked-w-FedEx/232496841526
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a bit too pricey, can only buy the 64 gb version for now, or 128 gb maybe
Goddamn, nearly $1400? Screw that noise. SD cards are cheap.
roaduardo said:
Goddamn, nearly $1400? Screw that noise. SD cards are cheap.
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They are, so I now have 512gb in my phone
Kalm_Traveler said:
They are, so I now have 512gb in my phone
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Very nice.
256Gb version looks available in Europe on this website:
https://www.quickmobileshop.com/pho...e-8-dual-sim-256gb-lte-4g-blue-6gb-ram-178566
This makes me wanna swap to T-Mobile or AT&T from Sprint...
BlueFox721 said:
This makes me wanna swap to T-Mobile or AT&T from Sprint...
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might as well. I made patches for the European N950F and now Korean N950N models to have T-Mobile Wifi Calling and VoLTE.
I second the seller Kalm_Traveler linked to (I used same seller. Shipping was less than 24H from Korea>Alaska>Tennessee>Missouri and estimated shipping date was a week later, lol)
As someone stuck on AT&T for work requirements (Land Surveyor) I say avoid AT&T, they're asshats about provising their features to non-AT&T devices.
My HTC One (M8) from their main store here in town went from being a boss to a hoss and has never recovered (issue is on their end, they can't "fix" it because nothing is "wrong", and wouldn't ever pass me over to techs who would actually know something...)
Kalm_Traveler said:
might as well. I made patches for the European N950F and now Korean N950N models to have T-Mobile Wifi Calling and VoLTE.
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Does the Korean version N950N need patches to use Wifi calling and VoLTE?
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Does the Korean version N950N need patches to use Wifi calling and VoLTE?
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Yes, but my patch isn't 100% working yet for wifi calling, when I add it on a fresh stock re-flash it will work until I reboot or open the 'More Settings' menu in the dialer settings... after that the component that switches calls between cell network and wifi breaks but I haven't figured out why (or how to stop it from breaking).