Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
Edit: here is the picture of rear box showing that it is not giving any information on the supported LTE band nor if modem is cat 6 or 9.
Edit 2: Samsung Thailand is mentioning all supported bands but no mention if cat 6 or 9:
http://www.samsung.com/th/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-note/SM-N920CZDATHL
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
sambenet said:
Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
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did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
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tallazzPilipino said:
did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
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Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
sambenet said:
Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
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I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
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tallazzPilipino said:
I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
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Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
sambenet said:
Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
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tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
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As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
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tallazzPilipino said:
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
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You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
Raspail said:
You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
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according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
tallazzPilipino said:
according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
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but according to this...
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it says differently, which I have to take with a grain of salt.
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You can check pdadb for this info
tallazzPilipino said:
tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
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Default language was french on mine
And no, sm-920c is not a dual sim model. The sm-920cd is. I can try the dialer code you have to check the supported frequencies
KarimSalloum said:
You can check pdadb for this info
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This website seems indeed very complete. But unfortunately, SM-N920C is not (yet?) listed.
Raspail said:
As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
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Thanks for this, I think this is the only link from Samsung listing the SM-N920C officially with the supported LTE bands mentioned. But even if we suppose that all the information are correct, still one huge information is missing: is it a category 6 or 9? ... When we put 800 dollars on a device, Samsung needs to understand that this might be important for a client to know if his device will be still up-to-date in 1 or 2 years and category 9 modem gives this guarantee. (even if the 6 is also a top notch today)
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
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This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
tallazzPilipino said:
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
(Sent from another Galaxy)
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Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
Raspail said:
This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
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I really can not trust any seller online... especially on eBay... when most of the time they do not even know what they are talking about... Few weeks ago, I sent an email to an ebay seller asking him about the LTE bands and cat 6 or 9... His reply? All about payment and logistics... yeahh ok all right thanks man of course your only goal is to sell... and when you understand that... you understand everything.....
Official source from Samsung or technical test on the device are the 2 only sources I would trust... (and even Samsung already made many mistakes on their website so... )
sambenet said:
Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
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i totally understand. i'm the same way with my cameras having the latest of certain features. but for phones, i sort of think of them as disposable after a year or two. haha
what part of the middle east? my gf (international flight attendant) was first assigned in NYC where i first met her, but has since been transferred to Istanbul, and now Riyadh. it'll be about another 2 years before she can come back to NYC [emoji45]. it's actually why i bought her an unlocked international S6 duos for all her traveling. i travel domestically for work, too, and is why i have the N5 duos and all these separate services.
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Related
Samsung Galaxy Note Korean Version SHV E160S clears FCC
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=977164&fcc_id='A3LSHVE160S
This FCC clearance is only validated with bluetooth communication.
If this is the Korean version why is it clearing with the FCC
if it is the Korean version? Maybe a just in case we decide to release in the US?
Does this imply as has been speculated as well that the Samsung Galaxy Note Korean version will have LTE? And compatibility with AT&T LTE? Will there be incompatibility with the Samsung Exynos processor and LTE, so it will include the Qualcomm's Snapdragon S3? I personally prefer the Exynos as it tests better then the Qualcomm.
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As well another version US(?) GT-i9220 only HSPA+(only as if that was crazy slow, haha) cleared the FCC:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=258095&fcc_i d='A3LGTI9220'
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Tired of these games by the carriers and manufactures!
I just want a clear answer is AT&T getting a LTE version of the note
within the next 3 months? And if not will the Korean version have LTE compatibility
with AT&T LTE? And when will the Korean version be released?
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Any other detectives work shared appreciated?
Please no speculation without some facts as there is plenty of that already.
Thanks
isimme said:
Samsung Galaxy Note Korean Version SHV E160S clears FCC
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=977164&fcc_id='A3LSHVE160S
This FCC clearance is only validated with bluetooth communication.
If this is the Korean version why is it clearing with the FCC
if it is the Korean version? Maybe a just in case we decide to release in the US?
Does this imply as has been speculated as well that the Samsung Galaxy Note Korean version will have LTE? And compatibility with AT&T LTE? Will there be incompatibility with the Samsung Exynos processor and LTE, so it will include the Qualcomm's Snapdragon S3? I personally prefer the Exynos as it tests better then the Qualcomm.
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As well another version US(?) GT-i9220 only HSPA+(only as if that was crazy slow, haha) cleared the FCC:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=258095&fcc_i d='A3LGTI9220'
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Tired of these games by the carriers and manufactures!
I just want a clear answer is AT&T getting a LTE version of the note
within the next 3 months? And if not will the Korean version have LTE compatibility
with AT&T LTE? And when will the Korean version be released?
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Any other detectives work shared appreciated?
Please no speculation without some facts as there is plenty of that already.
Thanks
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The Note came out in EU in the beginning of NOV, add 8 months to that for the release date in the US
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
I can't imagine at&t releasing a non lte note now that they launched the skyrocket. I've been wrong before...
I think the official ATT version will have LTE and it will arrive sometime after it's released in Korea. I'd earlier anticipated the USA release as before mid December but time will tell.
I almost bought an imported unlocked Note last week but when Newegg didn't have it in stock I decided to wait and if there is news shortly about an LTE Note I think I'll hold off a little longer.
I do hope the LTE version has an even bigger battery and comes out of the box with ICS...
Brian
I'll defiantly buy an AT&T LTE if it comes out. I can handme down my UK Note to my mom & get her on an unlimited dumbphone plan.
I would buy an Note if it Ran on AT&T and had HSPA+ and AT&T's upcoming flavor of LTE.
hello there... i'm new to the site but found this post while Googling for details on the Korean version of the Note. i'm actually getting mine tomorrow, most likely. I also have an iPhone with AT&T in the US. i'm also going to the US in a couple days for work. if there's something you'd like me to try out with the Note, let me know.
You're getting the Korean version of the Note?
I think what a lot of us would like to know is if the Korean version will support T-Mobile's 3G data bands. I've personally got a very favorable plan, and don't want to ditch it--but really want the Note.
malefactor said:
You're getting the Korean version of the Note?
I think what a lot of us would like to know is if the Korean version will support T-Mobile's 3G data bands. I've personally got a very favorable plan, and don't want to ditch it--but really want the Note.
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yep. i'm getting the Samsung Note... Korean version sometime tomorrow or the next day. it'll be my first Android phone.
unfortunately, i have an AT&T acct in the US so i wont be able to check compatibility with T-Mobile. i'll see when i get back to NYC on NYE if any of my friends do.
meanhoe said:
yep. i'm getting the Samsung Note... Korean version sometime tomorrow or the next day. it'll be my first Android phone.
unfortunately, i have an AT&T acct in the US so i wont be able to check compatibility with T-Mobile. i'll see when i get back to NYC on NYE if any of my friends do.
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Could you please tell us how much it cost you? and does it support NFC?
BR
meanhoe said:
hello there... i'm new to the site but found this post while Googling for details on the Korean version of the Note. i'm actually getting mine tomorrow, most likely. I also have an iPhone with AT&T in the US. i'm also going to the US in a couple days for work. if there's something you'd like me to try out with the Note, let me know.
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@ meanhoe:
Thanks for your generous offer.
Please can you let us know if your Korean Note works with AT&T's LTE,
does it have NFC,
and if you feel comfortable the cost you paid(subsidized or unsubsidized)?
yes it supports NFC. i'm having some issues getting the APN to work on my AT&T acct.
This should be well known/easy, but it's not. Please correct me where I'm wrong.
Everything I've been able to find tells me T-mobile 3g operates on 1700/2100 bands. This may be dependent on region. (so one area uses 2100, one area uses 1700)
This is not the same as AT&T.
SK Telecom operates on the UMTS 2100 band. So there MIGHT be compatibility with T-Mobile here. But my fear is it's only partial compatibility, so an $800 phone might work at full speed in only half the US T-mobile areas. If there's a handy map to point out what bands are used where, I'd appreciate it.
So I think, on AT&T, your SK Telecom note will be able to connect GPRS and EDGE. But not 3g. If you get a T-mobile SIM, you might be able to connect, depending..
t-mobile 1700
You're close, T-Mobile 3g requires BOTH 1700 and 2100 to work. It downloads on 2100 and then uploads on 1700. It MUST make a FULL cycle or T-Mobile will assume that your phone is unable to connect on 3g and bump you down to edge.
So, meanhoe, you could toss in a T-Mobile sim and boot. If you get 3g, that would be great, but more likely you will only get edge. Then you could go to your frequencies/bands menu and turn on 1700 and see if you can get 3g then. But the people that have tried had to do a factory reset when it didn't work, so that doesn't sound like fun.
Thanks for your help meanhoe!
-GT
Importing from korea the LTE version
Does anybody know how to import the Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160S from Korea ?
I search everywhere.... but since I don't speak Korean it makes it more conplicated !!!!
Or if anybody sells it somewhere ? (...like before christmass!!!!)
Thanks
I would like to know this too, where can I import/buy one?
Korean LTE in 800 MHZ frequency range, AT&T runs in 700MHZ
From what I have read the Korean GNote wil not support AT&T USA LTE.
I may be wroing here but ....
at least one thing for sure, my SK-Telecom Galaxy Note LTE does not connect to 3G network for neither T-Mobile nor AT&T.
LTE is not covered in my area, so couldn't test on that.
I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
aigoya said:
I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
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1) According to Engadget it's true - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20440114&postcount=9
2) I'd probably get it from Amazon but if you're in Korea already you should have other options. Have you considered contacting Samsung in Korea?
3) Good question, if there is a presence in your country for the source you purchased it from, I've heard there should be coverage but I'd like to know for sure before ordering..
Let us know what you decide,
SMARTPHONEPC said:
1) According to Engadget it's true - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20440114&postcount=9
2) I'd probably get it from Amazon but if you're in Korea already you should have other options. Have you considered contacting Samsung in Korea?
3) Good question, if there is a presence in your country for the source you purchased it from, I've heard there should be coverage but I'd like to know for sure before ordering..
Let us know what you decide,
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That link actually proves how unreliable the Snapdragon is...
The Snapdragon had Quadrant scores of anywhere from 2100-3300 which is EXTREMELY unstable...
My old S2 got consistant Quadrant scores of 3600-3700 on Stock
aigoya said:
I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
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1) It's actually the opposite. On paper, the Snapdragon looks amazing with it's 1.5ghz clock speed compared to the Exynos 1.4ghz, but the Snapdragon is very unreliable.
Quadrant Score that vary within the thousands usually mean that occasional or frequent lag on the homescreen are visible. Thus was the case with the AT&T ****rocket (The LTE S2)
2) Handtec, Clove, Amazon are all good places
3) The OG Note works with HSPA+ and will most likely have more sales than the LT**** note. Just look at the int'l S2 and compare those forums to the Skyrocket forums. It's like 50 devs versus 2-5 devs in the ****rocket forums.
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That link actually proves how unreliable the Snapdragon is...
The Snapdragon had Quadrant scores of anywhere from 2100-3300 which is EXTREMELY unstable...
My old S2 got consistant Quadrant scores of 3600-3700 on Stock
1) It's actually the opposite. On paper, the Snapdragon looks amazing with it's 1.5ghz clock speed compared to the Exynos 1.4ghz, but the Snapdragon is very unreliable.
Quadrant Score that vary within the thousands usually mean that occasional or frequent lag on the homescreen are visible. Thus was the case with the AT&T ****rocket (The LTE S2)
2) Handtec, Clove, Amazon are all good places
3) The OG Note works with HSPA+ and will most likely have more sales than the LT**** note. Just look at the int'l S2 and compare those forums to the Skyrocket forums. It's like 50 devs versus 2-5 devs in the ****rocket forums.
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At the source link http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/ the chart is better formatted showing different devices (not instances) for Galaxy S II Skyrocket ; AT&T Galaxy S II ; T-Mobile Galaxy S II ; HTC Vivid Benchmarks
"Another wild card in the Skyrocket's performance is the 1.5GHz Qualcomm APQ8060 (Snapdragon S3) CPU and accompanying Adreno 220 GPU, the same SoC setup as we saw on T-Mo's flavor. How does it hold up against the almighty Exynos processor found in so many of the other members of the Galaxy S II family? Pretty well, actually. While we've had a strong admiration for the processing prowess of Samsung's homegrown silicon, the Skyrocket's chip isn't anywhere close to a slouch either. In fact, unless you're paying close attention, you probably won't even notice a difference at all. The Qualcomm-powered device handled itself well throughout our menial myriad of tasks and didn't skip a beat.
The Skyrocket booted up in 25 seconds and was incredibly responsive from that time forward. Not once did the phone crash during our graphics-intensive activities, nor did it hiccup at any point in our multitasking. Animations were smooth as butter, as was the touch responsiveness."
In Korea, cell phone plans get a discount depending on the plan. The higher then plan, the higher the discount.
So just guestimating, if I get one of the Korean LTE models, I will be able to save $200-$400 depending on the plan vs getting the 3g european model.
So it begs the options:
Pay $200-$400: exynos + awesome xda developer support, 3g unlimited
Save $200-$400: qualcom, small if not no dev support, 4g LTE capped
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In Korea, cell phone plans get a discount depending on the plan. The higher then plan, the higher the discount.
So just guestimating, if I get one of the Korean models, I will be able to save $200-$400 depending on the plan vs getting the 3g model.
So it begs the options:
Pay $200-$400: exynos + awesome xda developer support, 3g
Save $200-$400: qualcom, small if not no dev support, 4g LTE
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Depends on your budget & what you want to do with it now? There will likely be more dev support if AT&T announce their LTE version in a few weeks. I'm trying to hold out for more info on AT&Ts LTE version as it should be more future-proof & by this month's end I should be in an LTE market but I'd rather not wait until April if that's really what they would announce soon. You have options now & don't have to wait!
How are the speeds of each in Korea & how often are you on Wi-Fi & all mobile data would be capped at what?
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Depends on your budget & what you want to do with it now? There will likely be more dev support if AT&T announce their LTE version in a few weeks. I'm trying to hold out for more info on AT&Ts LTE version as it should be more future-proof & by this month's end I should be in an LTE market but I'd rather not wait until April if that's really what they would announce soon. You have options now & don't have to wait!
How are the speeds of each in Korea & how often are you on Wi-Fi & all mobile data would be capped at what?
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Unfortunately korean models are different than usa models because of firmware. I know this first hand as i own the korean galaxy tab 10.1 and failed to install custom roms as well as other korean gtab owners.
As for the speed ill get back to you tomorrow. My coworker has an lte phone so i can get someanswers for you.
I'm seriously considering getting the original/European rather than grab AT&T's version but had a question about whether the LTE would work here since rather than specify a band most spec sheets I've seen just say '4G - LTE *' and the * means 'region specific'. I found a post here or there where people mention being able to get it going with an OS hack of some sort but was hoping for confirmation.
I want the 1.4ghz Exynos processor and the extra band that got cut out for the US version since I plan to visit Europe on occasion. The 1.5ghz one that AT&T crammed in there I've seen reports and benchmarks with it performing worse and having less battery life than the original. Why they changed it I have no clue, but if possible I'd prefer to have the original hardware
You will NEVER get LTE with the International version of the Note N7000..Thats the reason why the AT&T version doesnt use Exynos because its not compadible with LTE..
You will get 4G/H or whatever AT&T likes to call it though.
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You will NEVER get LTE with the International version of the Note N7000..Thats the reason why the AT&T version doesnt use Exynos because its not compadible with LTE..
You will get 4G/H or whatever AT&T likes to call it though.
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Interesting, I didn't know that... so HSPA+ or what-not?
So what's this version of the phone then? It's 1.4ghz processor but A9 instead of Exynos (unless I'm missing connections between names), and lists LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php - with a release date of 10/2011 I had assumed it was the European (Exynos) version.
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Interesting, I didn't know that... so HSPA+ or what-not?
So what's this version of the phone then? It's 1.4ghz processor but A9 instead of Exynos (unless I'm missing connections between names), and lists LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php - with a release date of 10/2011 I had assumed it was the European (Exynos) version.
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right..hspa+
i think the Koreon Note has LTE also so maybe thats the one you're referring to..I cant access that web site from work.
I just looked at the website and they are calling it the N7000 model for sure. But, that's weird that they say it has LTE. Do some N7000s have LTE while others don't?
I bought my Note on Ebay and pretty sure it doesn't have LTE. But, ATT doesn't have LTE here.
i believe the korean version is the same as the att version.
Hmm - so where would I look in order to find the model with the Exynos processor, and what would that make the model type - still GT-n7000, or some XX-n7000 version?
the shv-e160l ( thanks for the correction sutekidane) ver is the korean one. unsure if the lte freq is the same that att is using. the n7000 is the euro one. ebay korea might have the 9220.. i havent seen it anywhere as ive been trying to get a pink one... but just my experience as ive owned the att ver and the n7000 and i sold the att one. my 7000 preformed as fast and just was overall not as quirky...
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the i9220 ver is the korean one.
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Incorrect.
The Korean version is SHV-E160L or SHV-E160S.
It is packed with the Qualcomm chipset (LTE and NFC) and it uses a micro-SIM. Its exterior is 100% identical to the N7000.
The I9220 is the very early release's model number, then Samsung decided to rename it to the N7000. So the I9220 and N7000 are identical. The I9220 ICS leaks we use are mainly leaked from mainland China, therefore it is heavily Chinese-based. Also, the N7000 is not necessarily the "euro" version, either. It is actually referred as the "international" version as it is sold everywhere including Asia.
How I know? I bought one off eBay for really cheap awhile ago. Then I realised it only takes micro-SIM, so I sold it right away.
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my note has both 9220 and n7000 on the back label... sorry for the mis info on the post... long day..lol
Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
tigerknight said:
Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
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The standard GT-N700 has the Exynos in it. The LTE model is packing a qualcomm chip set. What is more important to you? Phone performance or data speed?
You can order from expansys or negri electronics.
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The standard GT-N700 has the Exynos in it. The LTE model is packing a qualcomm chip set. What is more important to you? Phone performance or data speed?
You can order from expansys or negri electronics.
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I currently have an Epic 4g (slider, not touch), and in the past year and a half of use I've made use of the 4g wi-max less than a dozen times. 3g network + wi-fi has been more than adequate for me, where battery and cpu performance have been a lacking a bit (I love my Epic, but it's not a dual core and the stock battery can barely make it through a day of moderate use).
That is what made me interested in the Exynos from the start, better battery life and actual performance output than the 1.5ghz processor that AT&T put in. LTE would be icing on the cake but is not at the heart of the matter for me - so long as an Exynos phone would work on US carriers for at least 3g network and it sounds like I could get the quasi-4g HSPA+ if I did that route.
Looked on negri and expansys and not having luck finding listings which explicitly state Exynos processor - don't suppose you could sport me a link?
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Fascinating stuff :] thanks!
Which one do you guys think would be better to use (if possible to get hands on)? A standard european/international gt-n7000 or the Exynos model if I can find it even though it doesn't do LTE? (and how do I find it?)
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I would argue that the international version is better overall (for me anyway). The Exynos is arguably the better overall chipset vs the Qualcomm. Both use the A9 architecture.
The reason I prefer the international version though is that the development has more momentum because it has been available for longer, and more people have it around the world; it's not as proprietary.
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I would argue that the international version is better overall (for me anyway). The Exynos is arguably the better overall chipset vs the Qualcomm. Both use the A9 architecture.
The reason I prefer the international version though is that the development has more momentum because it has been available for longer, and more people have it around the world; it's not as proprietary.
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So how can you tell if it's the Exynos or Qualcomm chip? So far the only thing I can think of to check is the speed; if it's 1.4 dual core it's Exynos, anything else is Qualcomm. Most listings I've seen just say 'A9' and that sounds like it could be either one.
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So how can you tell if it's the Exynos or Qualcomm chip? So far the only thing I can think of to check is the speed; if it's 1.4 dual core it's Exynos, anything else is Qualcomm. Most listings I've seen just say 'A9' and that sounds like it could be either one.
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If it is a GT N7000 it has Exynos this model comes with no other chipset.
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-galaxy-note.html#.T48f_LtZ6fI
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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If it is a GT N7000 it has Exynos this model comes with no other chipset.
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-galaxy-note.html#.T48f_LtZ6fI
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Cool, thanks. Looking through the specs, NFC is 'optional'?
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i believe the korean version is the same as the att version.
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You are wrong. (edit: this has already been sorted out).
If you are willing to pay the money for a 4g plan it might make sense to go for the ATT version. You will save a lot of money (400 dollars or so) outright.
If you are satisfied with 3g only, you may be better off with the international version+ straight talk (in the US that is)
I have an N7000 on ATT works fine. Sure no LTE but I usually get 4+Mbps down and I have seen 8Mbps. That's plenty fast for me. So far LTE has been a battery sucker on Android.
Don't be so quick to jump on Straight talk, some people complain about strict terms of service and very low daily data usage. I'm not bad mouthing Straight Talk, just suggesting you read up.
I'm all for cheap plans. If I had to do it over again, I would buy an ATT Note, mod for TMobile and get the Walmart 100min/5GB plan for $30. I'm not much of a phone talker, I use data mostly. I currently use an unlimited Data ATT Sim but having some phone minutes would be nice.
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Cool, thanks. Looking through the specs, NFC is 'optional'?
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It has no NFC.
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NOT DISSAPOINTED ANYMORE BOUGHT A SM-T715Y AND EVERYTING WORK FINE NOW, THANKS TO ALL
Hi, i bought this 3 Samsung Phablets
sm-t235y one year ago
sm-t705 3 months ago
sm-t715c yesterday
Im really dissapointed with this devices, all 3 devices are SUPPOSED to be LTE but none of them got LTE on US T-mobile. I understand its because of LTE bands, but im really frustrated cant get a phablet that works in LTE, its crazy, i know about businness model and LTE band for each region of world, but have no any other choice of buying this models because US version of this LTE devices has no phone capability.
H+ data seems not be as reliable as LTE, i have a Galaxy Note 4 provided by T-Mobile and LTE works really great on it! <10ms ping, better coverage, duble as fast as H+ download and uploads speed
I notice difference in Skype or Whatsapp calls the difference between LTE and H+ . Because of that i want to get a LTE working phablet.... i use a lot voip calls
sh-t715c is a very new device so there is no too much information but i have seen that sm-715 (not the sm-715c) in some pictures, seems to have proximity sensor and US LTE bands, it is true?
Any opinions will be welcome because im little lost, and dont know
*When i talk about LTE im talking not about just the LTE icon... im talking about for example... lower ping times than 40ms (on all this devices ping time is +-40ms) and (HOPE) better data service coverage with less interruptions.
Thanx in advance
NOT DISSAPOINTED ANYMORE BOUGHT A SM-T715Y AND EVERYTING WORK FINE NOW, THANKS TO ALL
What you are describing isn't Samsung's fault. Basically, it was your choice to purchase this specific model (815C). You could have purchased the T-Mobile specific model (817T) which has all of T-Mobile's LTE bands or the an unlocked AT&T model (817A) or an unlocked Canadian model (817W) which also have all of T-Mobile's bands or the international unlocked model (815N) which has T-Mobile's main LTE bands (and possibly all of them, which is what I have been trying to verify in this thread but no one has replied to it). The 815N goes for $539 on Amazon. If you are in a non-LTE band 12 area for T-Mobile then the 815N version will work just as well as the 817T, A or W versions on T-Mobile. If you are in a band 12 area then I would strongly advise to purchase the 817T, or unlocked A or W models.
In other words, the only advice anyone can give you is... if you really want good performance on T-Mobile, you need to buy a variant which supports it.
to further clarify..if you are looking for LTE AND voice calling then you should get (have got) the international version as the carriers block out the cellular voice calling (sure wifi-based skype etc always exist) at least that has been the practice all along upto the previous generation (not Samsung's fault..for that matter the Ipad mini lte does not have cellular voice calling either).
@mac231us, what is the full Samsung model number of your s2 and what is the model's FCC ID? (if it's not listed on the box or device then it should be listed under regulatory information under the about device menu under the system menu).
T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
ProStreetCamaro said:
T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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With respect to the OP, unfortunately there is no band 12 on the Y variant.
myphone12345 said:
What you are describing isn't Samsung's fault. Basically, it was your choice to purchase this specific model (815C). You could have purchased the T-Mobile specific model (817T) which has all of T-Mobile's LTE bands or the an unlocked AT&T model (817A) or an unlocked Canadian model (817W) which also have all of T-Mobile's bands or the international unlocked model (815N) which has T-Mobile's main LTE bands (and possibly all of them, which is what I have been trying to verify in this thread but no one has replied to it). The 815N goes for $539 on Amazon. If you are in a non-LTE band 12 area for T-Mobile then the 815N version will work just as well as the 817T, A or W versions on T-Mobile. If you are in a band 12 area then I would strongly advise to purchase the 817T, or unlocked A or W models.
In other words, the only advice anyone can give you is... if you really want good performance on T-Mobile, you need to buy a variant which supports it.
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Hi myphone12345, i think you did not read me in deept or i have been not so clear
1-first of all, i have to say that i think that i could not use a 10 inches tab as a phone as you said... if i choose this models was because i like a phone between 7 and 8.4 max inches can fit in my pocket (they fit)... you recommend a 9.7 phone.... would have to keep phone on on hand or a bag.
2-In other hand, you recommend me to but a T-Mobile specific model (817T)... that, my friend, is not a phone... it is a tablet, it does not have speaker on front beside the front camera.... and again 9.7 inches....
3-Obviusly a tmobile device will have all of T-Mobile's LTE bands... thats my point... i want to a 7 to 8.4 phablet.... i mean a tablet with real phone capabilities, i know skype, google voice, and all voip and no... dont want that want to use a regular phone
I conclusion, in my opinion there is no samsung phablet 7 to 8.4 inches that work with all real lte bands and have real phone capabilities
mac231us said:
to further clarify..if you are looking for LTE AND voice calling then you should get (have got) the international version as the carriers block out the cellular voice calling (sure wifi-based skype etc always exist) at least that has been the practice all along upto the previous generation (not Samsung's fault..for that matter the Ipad mini lte does not have cellular voice calling either).
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dont understand friend, these are all international versions with LTE (not us LTE) and voice calling.... talking about sm-t715c specifically, i can make calls, use data service, but not real LTE speeds like as example my galaxy note 4.... all sm-t715c works great only problem is it has not LTE.... just H+.... and im talking about some "malificent" deals betwen samsung and companies like tmo att verizon... that samsung does not sell devices with US LTE because samsung obviusly has a big bussines with these carriers so samsung "help" tmo att verizon to users have to buy his devices....
but..... when a mad guy like me want a phablet, cant find one, because all samsungs tablet on tmo, att and verizon DOES NOT HAVE REAL VOICE CALL CAPABILITIES... just check all of them has not the speaker on front at side of camera...
do you understand my point? sorry if im not so clear my english is not so good
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With respect to the OP, unfortunately there is no band 12 on the Y variant.
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well, as i said above.... it sounds great... but cant fit on my pocket... looking for a 7 to 8.4 one...
ProStreetCamaro said:
T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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well, as i said above.... it sounds great... but cant fit on my pocket... looking for a 7 to 8.4 one...
myphone12345 said:
@mac231us, what is the full Samsung model number of your s2 and what is the model's FCC ID? (if it's not listed on the box or device then it should be listed under regulatory information under the about device menu under the system menu).
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check on attached files.... thanx
wallyhenderson said:
dont understand friend, these are all international versions with LTE (not us LTE) and voice calling.... talking about sm-t715c specifically, i can make calls, use data service, but not real LTE speeds like as example my galaxy note 4.... all sm-t715c works great only problem is it has not LTE.... just H+.... and im talking about some "malificent" deals betwen samsung and companies like tmo att verizon... that samsung does not sell devices with US LTE because samsung obviusly has a big bussines with these carriers so samsung "help" tmo att verizon to users have to buy his devices....
but..... when a mad guy like me want a phablet, cant find one, because all samsungs tablet on tmo, att and verizon DOES NOT HAVE REAL VOICE CALL CAPABILITIES... just check all of them has not the speaker on front at side of camera...
do you understand my point? sorry if im not so clear my english is not so good
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I am confused too now...lol (sorry)
anyway...this much I know
my t715 (not C, Y etc) just T715 gets LTE on ATT (I have checked and let alone all the checking from all my experience using the tab S T805, Tab pro T325, Huawei Honor mediapad x2 gem-703, sharp sh-06f, Tab 4 7.0 sm-t235, oppo find 5, xperia ultraz, Chinese 7 inch mediatek-based phablet, and other NON-U.S carrier-branded devices (yes device junkie), this is the only device that I have used-again talking from among the non-u.s carrier-branded devices that I have used...this is the only device aside from oppo find 5 and the ultra z that actually does LTE (from checks AND how it FEELS speed-wise)...others all managed like H+
bands are LTE (B1)2100/(B3)1800/(B7)2600/(B8)900/(B28)700 MHz
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check on attached files.... thanx
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Would this be the Chinese version of the t715 (hence the C...sorry if late to the discussion here or missed something already communicated)
https://translate.google.com/transl...UMqaxD5pZefME%2BH%2BnKk9SbX97MmDB&prev=search
Link above from TENAA (China equivalent of the U.S. FCC)
says Network frequency 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2GHz, Band 38, Band 39, Band 40, Band 41 (2555-2575 MHZ, 2575-2635 MHZ, 2635-2655 MHZ), Band 1, Band 3,1.9GHz, I
if so, (maybe?) it could explain the difference in bands/speeds versus the other international t715?
I see the C version is being sold on Amazon here in the U.S
@walleyhenderson, what @Mac231 and I are trying to say is that if you got the SM-T715Y or SM-T715N instead of the SM-T715C then you would have had both LTE and voice calling in most places with T-Mobile (and all places with AT&T).
What you wouldn't have had is band 12 with T-Mobile but that is not T-Mobile's main LTE band and it may not even be deployed where you are anyway.
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@walleyhenderson, what @Mac231 and I are trying to say is that if you got the SM-T715Y or SM-T715N instead of the SM-T715C then you would have had both LTE and voice calling in most places with T-Mobile (and all places with AT&T).
What you wouldn't have had is band 12 with T-Mobile but that is not T-Mobile's main LTE band and it may not even be deployed where you are anyway.
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Ohhh i understand now... thats what im looking for... but sadly... i been searching on google... and cant find where to buy SM-T715Y or SM-T715N, do you know any place to buy any of these? what do you recommend SM-T715Y or SM-T715N
thanx
Where are you located? I can sell you mine.
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Ohhh i understand now... thats what im looking for... but sadly... i been searching on google... and cant find where to buy SM-T715Y or SM-T715N, do you know any place to buy any of these? what do you recommend SM-T715Y or SM-T715N
thanx
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You can easily find it on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-T715-Black-International/dp/B0124SAQLI
According to what I can gather, as is the same as it's predecessor the Tab S, the international version is simply called SM-T715/T815. The T715n or T715no is a Korean model.
International versions don't usually have a letter after the model number.
My Tab S is an international version and is simply called a SM-T805.
I agree it's real confusing as to which model is which.
ashyx said:
According to what I can gather, as is the same as it's predecessor the Tab S, the international version is simply called SM-T715/T815. The T715n or T715no is a Korean model.
International versions don't usually have a letter after the model number.
My Tab S is an international version and is simply called a SM-T805.
I agree it's real confusing as to which model is which.
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They all usually do have letters after the model name, it's just that it isn't always listed everywhere. Also, "N" is just the first letter. Meaning, that the full model number is actually SM-T715NZKEDBT for the black one and SM-T715NZWEDBT for the white one. Those are the variants of the Tab S2 8" LTE tablet that Samsung officially sells in Germany for example. Not sure where the SM-T715YXXXXX model is officially destined to by Samsung (my guess would be South America).
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They all usually do have letters after the model name, it's just that it isn't always listed everywhere. Also, "N" is just the first letter. Meaning, that the full model number is actually SM-T715NZKEDBT for the black one and SM-T715NZWEDBT for the white one. Those are the variants of the Tab S2 8" LTE tablet that Samsung officially sells in Germany for example. Not sure where the SM-T715YXXXXX model is officially destined to by Samsung (my guess would be South America).
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I'm gonna see if I can find the boxes to my tab s and tab a to see if I can confirm this.
Even Samsung themselves don't add the n to any of their international firmwares or source code, however they do for the rest.
The only official firmware with the n variable is Korean.
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I'm gonna see if I can find the boxes to my tab s and tab a to see if I can confirm this.
Even Samsung themselves don't add the n to any of their international firmwares or source code, however they do for the rest.
The only official firmware with the n variable is Korean.
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The full Samsung model number of the black LTE 8" S2 Korean variant is SM-T715NZKEKOO. It supports the same bands as the European variant I mentioned above.
Where can I find one that'll work with tmobile?
You'd have to purchase an international unlocked version from a website like clove.co.uk
When you check out there is an option for them to open the box and insert a local sim card to unlock the device for use in other markets.
Looking for the same thing. Is there a reliable online US source for the 512gb black Note 9? Also what will we be losing by getting an unlocked version, I guess besides video calling on TMobile? TMobile Tuesday..?
dominick_7 said:
Looking for the same thing. Is there a reliable online US source for the 512gb black Note 9? Also what will we be losing by getting an unlocked version, I guess besides video calling on TMobile? TMobile Tuesday..?
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You can download the T-Mobile Tuesdays app from the Google Play Store.
It works on any phone,provided you have a T-Mobile account.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.tuesdays&hl=en_US
Same goes for T-Mobile DIGITS,just grab the app from the Play Store,log-in & set-up.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.digits&hl=en_US
As for what you'll be losing?
LTE Band71
Not sure how well an international version works as far as signal strength/WI-FI Calling/VoLTE,but,my guess would be to go with a dual SIM version that has the QUALCOMM Snapdragon chip vs the Samsung Exynos Chip:
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 8GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...2a:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930713601
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 6GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...57:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521918316706
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Samsung EXYNOS 8 GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...15:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930711183
Samsung EXYNOS 6 GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...ff:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=502408235508
KOLIOSIS said:
You can download the T-Mobile Tuesdays app from the Google Play Store.
It works on any phone,provided you have a T-Mobile account.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.tuesdays&hl=en_US
Same goes for T-Mobile DIGITS,just grab the app from the Play sSore,log-in & set-up.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.digits&hl=en_US
As for what you'll be losing?
LTE Band71
Not sure how well an international version works as far as signal strength/WI-FI Calling/VoLTE,but,my guess would be to go with a dual SIM version that has the QUALCOMM Snapdragon chip vs the Samsung Exynos Chip:
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 8GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...2a:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930713601
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 6GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...57:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521918316706
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Samsung EXYNOS 8 GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...15:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930711183
Samsung EXYNOS 6 GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...ff:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=502408235508
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Cool, thank you for clarifying. About the band, are you sure, people are reporting it has LTE band71? Also do we know which is better, the Snapdragon for the 8gb version or Exynos for 6gb? I guess there's only root for the exynos, but I haven't rooted in years and not sure I'll mess with it.
dominick_7 said:
Cool, thank you for clarifying. About the band, are you sure, people are reporting it has LTE band71? Also do we know which is better, the Snapdragon for the 8gb version or Exynos for 6gb? I guess there's only root for the exynos, but I haven't rooted in years and not sure I'll mess with it.
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I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
Canada has an unlocked black model that uses the same bands as the US. Not sure about band 71, but probably the closest you'd get compatibility wise.
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I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
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Ah k. So does that mean even if I buy the 8gb 512gb unlocked version from say Best Buy in the US it won't have band 71? Otherwise it sounds like the ideal situation would be if the TMobile firmware can be flashed to the international model? I guess Im wondering, are all 512gb unlocked versions lacking that band or just ones not bought in the US like from Best Buy? I know I want the 8gb 512gb version, in black if possible, but if Im without band 71 I can deal with the stupid blue colored one as long as I have the 8gb/512gb version. They seem to be saying VoLTE and wifi calling works on the unlocked version.. does that mean it has band 71? https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...208-carrier-vs-unlocked-note-9-questions.html.
dominick_7 said:
Ah k. So does that mean even if I buy the 8gb 512gb unlocked version from say Best Buy in the US it won't have band 71? Otherwise it sounds like the ideal situation would be if the TMobile firmware can be flashed to the international model? I guess Im wondering, are all 512gb unlocked versions lacking that band or just ones not bought in the US like from Best Buy? I know I want the 8gb 512gb version, in black if possible, but if Im without band 71 I can deal with the stupid blue colored one as long as I have the 8gb/512gb version.
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I'm pretty sure the US Unlocked version has Band 71,it's just not available in Black,at least for now.
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Band 71 is not listed on Best Buy's specs.
Looks like your best bet is to wait for others to post their experiences, or,contact Samsung/check their site.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note9-128gb-unlocked-ocean-blue/6278210.p?skuId=6278210
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@dominick_7
Here's another site stating the US Unlocked version does indeed have Band 71,so you'll definitely have to do your homework before buying:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
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I'm pretty sure the US Unlocked version has Band 71,it's just not available in Black,st least for now.
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@Dominick
Band 71 is not listed on Best Buy's specs.
Looks like your beet bet is to wait for others to post their experiences, or,contact Samsung/check their site.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note9-128gb-unlocked-ocean-blue/6278210.p?skuId=6278210
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Ah k. So safest bet for the 512gb variant is either the US carrier/tmobile for quickest updates but stupid colors and bloatware or thee US unlocked for slower updates but less bloatware..? What's the argument to get an unlocked version over carrier otherwise? I guess the price for getting it in black is no 71 band. Still looking at the canadian one to see if it has 71. https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/.
Edit.. crap. wait if these people are reporting the US unlocked has VoLTE and wifi calling doesnt that mean it has band 71 or..? https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...208-carrier-vs-unlocked-note-9-questions.html
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Guyinlaca said:
Canada has an unlocked black model that uses the same bands as the US. Not sure about band 71, but probably the closest you'd get compatibility wise.
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Cool, do you know what the model number is? And why go with unlocked, just for the black color and less bloat even though it may have slower updates?
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I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
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International models are exynos not Qualcomm
dominick_7 said:
Cool, do you know what the model number is? And why go with unlocked, just for the black color and less bloat even though it may have slower updates?
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SM-N960WZKAXAC
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...12854642.aspx?
TechOut said:
International models are exynos not Qualcomm
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There's Qualcomm powered phones in China,Japan,Latin America & North America.
The rest have Exynos.
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SM-N960WZKAXAC
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...12854642.aspx?
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Thats not listed here, https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/ yet, and it seems thats the 128gb model though right?
The Canadian model probably has band 71. I don't know if anything has changed since T-Mobile's acquisition of band 71.
So annoying ghat the USA has odd bands compared to everyone else right?
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So annoying ghat the USA has odd bands compared to everyone else right?
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Agreed, I wish I could have purchased a black one without having to jump through all the hoops and risk it not working as well.
I've got the exynos 512/8 midnight black and I will be working in the USA for a few months. Wondering what network over there will be the best fit. Usually it's either T Mobile or ATT as they are GSM... But his band 71 gig means that I am effectively unable to use tmo 4g?
mikey_sk said:
I've got the exynos 512/8 midnight black and I will be working in the USA for a few months. Wondering what network over there will be the best fit. Usually it's either T Mobile or ATT as they are GSM... But his band 71 gig means that I am effectively unable to use tmo 4g?
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No,T-Mobile has Bands 2/4/5/12/66/71
Band 71 deployment is sparse at best ATM.
Most of T-Mobile users are covered in the rest.
Depending on where you plan to use your phone the most is going to dictate who works best for you.
There is a lot of overlap in most densely populated markets,if you're going to be in the sparsely populated areas AT&T is probably your best bet.
Try out this site,it should give you a good indication of which carriers are best for you:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map
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@mikey_sk
I've since edited to remove the VZW recommendation for rural areas,or,just in general,with your phone.
AT&T still likely has a slight advantage in rural areas,check the link I posted for a good indicator on which works best for you.
If you have the D/S version,then,of course you have the luxury of using both T-Mobile & AT&T,if you choose to do so.
Another BTW:
If you're going to be using a fair amount of data & are considering saving some $$$ by using pre-paid MVNOs of AT&T or T-Mobile,be aware all of them are subject to,if not outright,slower speeds vs the main carrier itself.
This is particularly true of any pre-paid option on AT&T & the MVNO's that use their network,read the fine print on any pre-paid service you choose,some have really slow speeds/throttling.
As for MVNO's/prepaid,your best bet is likely MetroPCS,which is actually part of T-Mobile US & most customers are genuinely pleased with the service/speeds & ovearll value.
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No,T-Mobile has Bands 2/4/5/12/66/71
Band 71 deployment is sparse at best ATM.
Most of T-Mobile users are covered in the rest.
Depending on where you plan to use your phone the most is going to dictate who works best for you.
There is a lot of overlap in most densely populated markets,if you're going to be in the sparsely populated areas AT&T is probably your best bet.
Try out this site,it should give you a good indication of which carriers are best for you:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map
EDIT:
@mikey_sk
I've since edited to remove the VZW recommendation for rural areas,or,just in general,with your phone.
AT&T still likely has a slight advantage in rural areas,check the link I posted for a good indicator on which works best for you.
If you have the D/S version,then,of course you have the luxury of using both T-Mobile & AT&T,if you choose to do so.
Another BTW:
If you're going to be using a fair amount of data & are considering saving some $$$ by using pre-paid MVNOs of AT&T or T-Mobile,be aware all of them are subject to,if not outright,slower speeds vs the main carrier itself.
This is particularly true of any pre-paid option on AT&T & the MVNO's that use their network,read the fine print on any pre-paid service you choose,some have really slow speeds/throttling.
As for MVNO's/prepaid,your best bet is likely MetroPCS,which is actually part of T-Mobile US & most customers are genuinely pleased with the service/speeds & ovearll value.
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Thanks. Yes I know they provide slower speeds to MVNOs over there. In Europe they dont really do this so pre paid is as quick as a contract sim. I am on Three UK and I can use my data (I have 100gb allowance per month) in the USA for free so will only be using the pre paid for receiving calls. I am therefore able to pick either T Mobile or ATT when I am over there depending which one is best etc.