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[Q] T-MO (N900T) or Intl. (N9005) ? for use on AT&T

I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version

barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?

Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands

barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.

Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.

If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Jayster0966 said:
Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).

I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
Sent from my SM-N900T now Free

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
Sent from my SM-N900T now Free
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
Sent from my SM-N900T now Free
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
barondebxl said:
How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?

Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.

mehdi_s82 said:
They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?

AShort said:
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.

N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?

I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.

A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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AT&T Note 3 SM-N900A on T-M network issues?

Hello everyone, based on extremely poor ATT coverage in my area comparing to T-M I plan to purchase AT&T Note 3 SM-N900A, unlock it and use with T-M SIM card.
Would I face any issues in terms of unlocking and data coverage?

toshik1 said:
Hello everyone, based on extremely poor ATT coverage in my area comparing to T-M I plan to purchase AT&T Note 3 SM-N900A, unlock it and use with T-M SIM card.
Would I face any issues in terms of unlocking and data coverage?
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Soooo.... why would you want to buy a N900A. I feel like we are missing some piece of info. What about getting the N900T and having the best of both worlds. The modem on the N900A is more restricted than the Tmobile version (surprise surprise).

mircury said:
Soooo.... why would you want to buy a N900A. I feel like we are missing some piece of info. What about getting the N900T and having the best of both worlds. The modem on the N900A is more restricted than the Tmobile version (surprise surprise).
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Really? I'm glad I asked prior to spending the $$$
Other than the firmware the phones are identical, correct?
Right now I borrowed Note 2 AT&T SGH-I317 and it seems (to me) to work OK on T-Mobile.

Yes, the Note 2 was one of the last phones before ATT went crazy and started locking down everything. You could enable the AWS bands of tmobile on the ATT note 2. Here is a guide for the N900T if you go that route. Many of us are doing it. You can use it on either carrier. If you are going to use tmobile you might as well use the wifi calling also. It's free and only on the N900T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498

mircury said:
Yes, the Note 2 was one of the last phones before ATT went crazy and started locking down everything. You could enable the AWS bands of tmobile on the ATT note 2. Here is a guide for the N900T if you go that route. Many of us are doing it. You can use it on either carrier. If you are going to use tmobile you might as well use the wifi calling also. It's free and only on the N900T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
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Thank you! But the guide is for using T-Moblie phone on AT&T network, I have the opposite.

toshik1 said:
Thank you! But the guide is for using T-Moblie phone on AT&T network, I have the opposite.
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I know. My point is that the N900T works perfectly on ATT and Tmobile. It works on both carriers and is the most up to date. The N900T has had J7 for a week where the ATT model just is now getting J5. The carrier specific features like wifi calling are not on the N900A.
Also if you read in that thread I list the fcc bands that are active on the N900A compared to the N900T. They are more restricted than the Tmobile version.

mircury said:
I know. My point is that the N900T works perfectly on ATT and Tmobile. It works on both carriers and is the most up to date. The N900T has had J7 for a week where the ATT model just is now getting J5. The carrier specific features like wifi calling are not on the N900A.
Also if you read in that thread I list the fcc bands that are active on the N900A compared to the N900T. They are more restricted than the Tmobile version.
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Ok thanks again, all I need is the best deal on either used or new N900T. I don't see any listed on Amazon and pricegrabber brings up three crazy deals price of $700 with signing up with T-Mobile

toshik1 said:
Ok thanks again, all I need is the best deal on either used or new N900T.
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Yes, you will definitely be happier especially if you are wanting to use it on the T-mobile network.

att sim in n900t? HSPA+&LTE?
Sorry for barging in just a quick question and this thread seems to be the most logical place to ask. Anyway, I have AT&T and just got the Note 3 n900a. If i got a T-Mobile version n900t and put my AT&T Sim in it if i unlock it, will i be able to use it with AT&T's data like hspa+ and LTE or will i just be limited to EDGE. Only reason i ask is because like you say AT&T is going nuts with locking everything down and Im sure its going to be a pain in the a** for the Devs to unlock the bootloader so we can (when it comes) flash custom recoveries and roms. Just like with my att galaxy s4. I was happily rooted and at the time i didnt flash a rom yet i was waiting to find one i like. (mind you i was on the MDL build) and as forgetful as i am just being stock rooted i never froze the samsung software update and it updated to MF3 build and wasnt able to fash a recovery. so i unrooted, reset flash counter and did a warranty exchange and was lucky to get one on still on the MDL build. the second i got that i rooted flashed CWM recovery and flashed a custom rom so it wouldnt update on me. I just dont want the same situation for when the devs unlock the bootloader and get a flash able recovery so just thinking maybe a tmobile note 3 with my att sim may be the way to go to avoid that. lol Not like the note 3 needs any custom rom with the beast of a phone it is but sometimes i like to switch up and use stock/aosp android.
Thanks and sorry for the paragraph here and my apologies if i asked in the wrong spot,
Dave

ddix585 said:
Sorry for barging in just a quick question and this thread seems to be the most logical place to ask. Anyway, I have AT&T and just got the Note 3 n900a. If i got a T-Mobile version n900t and put my AT&T Sim in it if i unlock it, will i be able to use it with AT&T's data like hspa+ and LTE or will i just be limited to EDGE. Only reason i ask is because like you say AT&T is going nuts with locking everything down and Im sure its going to be a pain in the a** for the Devs to unlock the bootloader so we can (when it comes) flash custom recoveries and roms. Just like with my att galaxy s4. I was happily rooted and at the time i didnt flash a rom yet i was waiting to find one i like. (mind you i was on the MDL build) and as forgetful as i am just being stock rooted i never froze the samsung software update and it updated to MF3 build and wasnt able to fash a recovery. so i unrooted, reset flash counter and did a warranty exchange and was lucky to get one on still on the MDL build. the second i got that i rooted flashed CWM recovery and flashed a custom rom so it wouldnt update on me. I just dont want the same situation for when the devs unlock the bootloader and get a flash able recovery so just thinking maybe a tmobile note 3 with my att sim may be the way to go to avoid that. lol Not like the note 3 needs any custom rom with the beast of a phone it is but sometimes i like to switch up and use stock/aosp android.
Thanks and sorry for the paragraph here and my apologies if i asked in the wrong spot,
Dave
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This thread is huge but hopefully has everything you would want to know on the topic. Look at the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498

T-mo or AT&T galaxy note 3 - AOSP Roms?

Just got the note 3 from att and am reading in XDA that there currently no way to root from 4.4.2 and to top it off the only Roms that are available on 4.3 appear to be themed versions that appear to be stock Google but actually are not. This I'd based on the all in one thread I just read.
Taking a cursory look at t-mobile and their note 3 doesn't appear to have this bootloader hindrance/handicap unless I'm mistaken. I'm willing to sell my new note 3 to get a better more compliant phone but want to make sure of the information before making that drastic jump. I'm not wanting to wait to use rooms such as paranoid Android or pacrom. Am I correct in my assumption so far that t-Mobile had the more ROM and mod friendly version of the Note 3? XDA developers are always right from what I've found. This is my fifth phone in two years and I want to do it right without regrets.
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You won't be flashing any AOSP ROMs on the AT&T Note 3 in the foreseeable future. If the phone is on 4.4.2 you can't even root it. I love the N3 (AT&T) and I love the community here. I just love freedom when it comes to my smartphone. When the opportunity arises and my wallet says "cool" I'm definitely bouncing to a nexus or gpe device. My apologies for being a little frustrated right now.
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Yes... The TMobile version is flashable, rootable, etc... I sold my att n3 and bought the TMobile version for the same reason!
Swiftkeyed from my SM-N900T on AT&T

My sympathy to you for not doing some research first, as I didn't either. I do love this phone, but if I had to do over again, there's no way I'd choose it again on AT&T.
Sent from where the wind begins....

Unlocking New Note 4

I expect to buy the new T Mobile Note 4 on or about the day it comes out but about 10 days later I will be out of the country for several weeks. Will I be able to get the unlock code from some 3rd party before I leave. I believe TM requires you use the phone for at least 40 days or more before they will unlock it, even when I pay full price for it.
Thanks
Bill

give them a call. im not 100% sure, but i believe you can get a temp unlock code, and the phone will re-lock when it comes back to USA.

T-mobile can help you with that.
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I'll be in a similar boat as well, instead leaving 20 days later.
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I'm active duty military, and when I bought the N2, I left on deployment soon afterwards. I spent 4 months in Singapore, and T-Mobile would NOT unlock my phone until I'd been a customer for 90 days, or paid off half the device cost. With that said, I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release. I suspended my plan with no problems, and picked up where I left off when I got back. My phone worked great with Singapore's network, though because I had to be prepaid, data was expensive.

Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?

c627627 said:
Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?
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BAD ASS NOTE 4

c627627 said:
Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?
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He was referencing the Galaxy Note 2.

Other note 4 roms on tmobile note

Is it possible to install the other roms like it was possible on the note 2?
Tmobile Note 2 can install n7105 roms
Can the note 4 do the same?

curious also
I would also like to know this. I use a straight talk att sim card, so I have no need for the tmobile wifi calling.

The good ol'Note 2... those were the days...
But I believe the only phone roms that where interchangeable were from att and tmobile. And att might be locked down this time around.

This is NOT something that I would do. There is the real possibility that you could brick your phone. I would advise sticking to ROMS designated for your particular variant of the Note 4.

Illusive Man said:
This is NOT something that I would do. There is the real possibility that you could brick your phone. I would advise sticking to ROMS designated for your particular variant of the Note 4.
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That's true but my question was if it was possible like it was on the Note 2

Yes, but not advised.
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Found this in General
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58373907