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My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
ukulele_ninja said:
My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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Ill check out mobileme for me, theres no way im paying $100 for the iphone program though. I just want something that you can pull up say, 'hey theres my phone' and be done.
While iOS4 finally allows location to run in the backgroud, I think it only allows pre-running location to run. Meaning the program would have to be started by her any time her phone resets, constantly be tracking the phone, and would wear out the battery super fast. I could be wrong on this, but I have never personally come across an app store program that could do this.
If your wifes phone is jailbroken, there are a few apps that do this in a much better way. Ilocalis is supposed to be one but I never got around to trying any of them when I had my iPhone. Hope this helps!
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
Fameelee said:
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
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Sorry but i couldn't find any app for iOS. This seems to be another nice app
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I found some apps
Labour Sync: This GPS tracker app eliminates the need for paper timesheets with automatic reports that can be customized and filtered by employee, job and time frame. You can see exactly how much time is being spent on a particular project.
+ Android
+ AppStore
+Apk file
Hubstaff: Time tracking and GPS verification
+ Android
+ AppStore
+ Apk file
Hope it will help.
From Engadget:
You had to know the hacking community was going to have a field day with the Nook Color -- a $249 Android Tablet hiding behind with a thin e-reader coating. Indeed it didn't take long to get rooted nor for Android 2.2 to get installed on there, but that particular hack comes with an interesting potential side-effect: small-scale thermonuclear explosions. Enabling FroYo requires disabling the device's battery monitoring process, the very one that would be responsible for shutting down the device before the cells start overheating and, ultimately, going critical. Yeah it's unlikely, but it could happen. Meanwhile, another hack has enabled the Android Market, but those instructions begin with a very daunting warning: "Very smart people have failed at this. If the following instructions confuse you, you might want to wait until an easier method has been developed."
And, thankfully, there is a much easier way coming, with Barnes & Noble confirming that Android 2.2 will be officially coming to the Nook Color in January. Yes, Android 2.3 is what's happening, but this is still an exciting upgrade as it will finally also allow access to a traditional Android home screen and even enable the Android Market. In other words, it should work just like an Android tablet, Kindle app and all.
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And here I was thinking I would return my NC to B&N tomorrow. What to do what to do..
Assuming the report is accurate, I guess B&N really is embracing Android. A happy surprise. If you read the original link, then it says it'll also have the 2.2 launcher, switchable between B&N and stock Android.
Hopefully there is a leak soon I am an impatient person
great great great news. Wow, i might have to pick up a spare. going to get very interesting come January. Also hoping for a nice leak soon
This means I will be buying a Nook Color as soon as this is available in January. It will do everything I want a tablet to do right now.
I still can't get it to run smoothly. My EVO scrolls home screens and web pages much smoother than my NC. Even with SetCPU set to performance, it's just a tad slow. I wonder how it would run with 2.2 on it, sucking more power.
I've debated the two avenues that BN can take with this with friends. Either lock it down like Apple and try to stay ahead of the hacker community and force people to use their products or open it up and cater to all and potentially lose a little profit from forced content purchasing. I personally think the later will actually spur more content sales as the positive reaction to how they are handling all this will spur more device sales and ultimately more content.
I don't think they are loss leading this device, even if it's a very small profit margin. Most people I know buying it are older and they don't care at all about android. They are buying BN books and content and using it like BN planned. I'm assuming here, but it's probably a small percentage of users rooting it and clamoring for full functionality. BN, seemingly to me, are open to this and catering to that smaller percentage. In doing so, they are creating so much more positive hype for their machine leading to probably a WHOLE lot more device sales and publicity overall which will probably get them even more content sales.
The few things I wanted with the device have been unlocked. I'm as happy as can be with it now. If this is true, most likely they are going to implement those changes officially in some form down the road. Better for everybody.
This seems to be win win for everybody. Hopefully when they officially update their software, they take into account many of the elements that have been unlocked and why people are unlocking those functions.
I think that the day they release 2.2 with a vanilla launcher option we should all buy a book or 2 from the b&n ebook store to show our appreciation.
I think this is important to note:
" I was told that Nook users may not have access to the full market."
(This is a quote from the SmartPhoneMag.com article referenced by Engadget).
I don't believe it will have the standard market on it - it will still be B&N's proprietary market.
I hope they enable my location.
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I think this is important to note:
" I was told that Nook users may not have access to the full market."
(This is a quote from the SmartPhoneMag.com article referenced by Engadget).
I don't believe it will have the standard market on it - it will still be B&N's proprietary market.
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I'm not sure about that. I think it will be a non-copy protected market, or no paid apps. Unless they make users do the normal Android setup wizard, you don't tie your Nook to a particular account.
We'll just have to see though, as we can speculate anything (and often do!)
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How would they do that? Off a WiFi location? No GPS, and no cell function kind of limits the feature.
For Pete's sake B&N! Just give us 2.2 with a home switcher to your B&N home Screen and FULL Market Access, gmail app, etc....
Enough already with this proprietary garbage!
Capt Picard: "Number One.. Make it so!"
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For Pete's sake B&N! Just give us 2.2 with a home switcher to your B&N home Screen and FULL Market Access, gmail app, etc....
Enough already with this proprietary garbage!
Capt Picard: "Number One.. Make it so!"
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I'm pretty sure it's Google limiting market access, not B&N. According to Android's use, you can't have the Market (or any other Google apps) installed without 3G access, which the Nook doesn't have. The other companies who have skirted this requirement have gotten into trouble over it.
Marketing 101: How do you win the Tablet wars, market it first as a $250 ereader/tablet, then 2 months later release the update that turns it into a full Tablet/ereader right after CES which this year is all about Tablets all costing twice as much tied to carriers.
Bunch of BS! Google gives a crapload of stuff for free and they cover this tiny little 3g thing. I don't get it... the more users out there the more downloads and the more revenue for Google. Granted with the 3G access they can somehow figure out who did what, but there isn't a single person here who's used the market to download only free stuff.
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but there isn't a single person here who's used the market to download only free stuff.
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Sure about that?
I can say for one I have never paid for an app.
Never pirated one either.
There are plenty of free things out there...I have no need for anything paid.
To say nobody downloads only free stuff is just plain wrong.
Not to say I won't ever buy something, but haven't needed to yet.
I think I am going to wait and see with this market thing. Full market...I will buy for sure. Something else...will think about it after root for the new version is out.
danbutter said:
Sure about that?
I can say for one I have never paid for an app.
Never pirated one either.
There are plenty of free things out there...I have no need for anything paid.
To say nobody downloads only free stuff is just plain wrong.
Not to say I won't ever buy something, but haven't needed to yet.
I think I am going to wait and see with this market thing. Full market...I will buy for sure. Something else...will think about it after root for the new version is out.
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as they said in "Life of Brian" - there's always one
I spoke today with a Barnes & Noble representative who showed me the forthcoming update on his company Nook which is slated for this January. The 2.2 Android update is a game changer and literally turns the e-reader into a near full Android tablet device.
The 2.2 update, or overhaul if you prefer, will give you access to a retooled Android Market, the typical Android home screen and even has pinch zooming with the browser. The Android Market app was still under development and was not on the device to see. I was told that Nook users may not have access to the full market. The Nook I looked at had apps loaded via the SD card slot and seemed to run fine. The device will still give you access to all of your Nook material via the current interface that will be swicthable for the user.
The update addresses performance and battery life concerns according to the rep I spoke to. The update on his Nook was still in beta so it lacked some polish but seemed to work smoother than the stock device. The graphics performance still seemed sluggish even with 2.2 when scrolling through magazines and web pages.
The best news is that Nook Color owners will be able to use their new Nooks as a full tablet device that rivals any other Android tablet currently in the consumer arena. Even iPad users may turn envious at the smaller form factor and $249 purchase price.
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Nook Color Getting Android 2.2 Treatment in January
Sirchuk said:
I still can't get it to run smoothly. My EVO scrolls home screens and web pages much smoother than my NC. Even with SetCPU set to performance, it's just a tad slow. I wonder how it would run with 2.2 on it, sucking more power.
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2.2 doesn't suck more power. Its actually more power efficient and at the same time faster. Froyo has JIT amongst other things that gave it a significant performance boost over Eclair.
stwallman said:
I think this is important to note:
" I was told that Nook users may not have access to the full market."
(This is a quote from the SmartPhoneMag.com article referenced by Engadget).
I don't believe it will have the standard market on it - it will still be B&N's proprietary market.
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Who cares. We already have a full market with the hacks available based on Droid X. But Vanilla 2.2 with a kernel source changes the game.
bluetooth
If the rumors are true about bluetooth hardware being there, then Google could open the full market to us Nookers. All they would have to do is enable pairing between the nook and a cellphone via bluetooth, and now you have 3G.
I keep checking around occasionally to see if my Chromecast will become useful today. I would have expected that only a few days after its release, the Google Play store would be filled with interesting Chromecast apps, and existing Android apps would be adding Chromecast features. As of today, the only apps capable of playing media on the Chromecast are still apps that it launched with. I've heard a bit about Koush's unreleased apps, which tells me that the holdup is Google themselves. What gives? Why are they doing this? Does anyone have any idea of when they will allow developers to release their apps? The way this Chromecast thing has played out so far seems very unlike Google, and is making me quite disappointed with them.
Waiting on Google to release the sdk out of beta. No timeline yet. It will come....
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I think main reason for the release of the device was to bring Google Movies service to your big screen TV, the rest was just a bonus. Looks like due to lots of licensing issues, this will be a slow and painful process and I hope it doesn't become the next Apple TV that is barely useful without the jailbreak and XBMC on it.
I also hope someone turns the script from the other thread to a mobile app in a similar fashion to what Koush did.
The way I figure it:
If you were an early adopter, you get a Netflix, Youtube, Google Play and sort-of Chrome tab player for $35. If you got the Netflix 3 months code, then it cost you even less. Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
I'm sure the public SDK will happen when it's good and ready. I just think Google wants to have out some more examples of big-name apps that work really well with Chromecast, before they open the floodgates to all the rest of the devs.
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Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
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That is true. It's just frustrating to own a capable device with artificial limitations.
Yea we should of known something was up when 3 months of netflix with the device at only $35. That tells me they knew the only content provider they had on board now was netflix. To keep most happy they can say "oh we pretty much gave you the device". Enjoy old movies for the next 6 months and we will slowly add content. Only way for Google to make money is to not let devs release their apps. Fortunately some will grow tired and root the device "again" and developers will create programs that function with beta sdk and your device ID that will enable apps to work as they choose. Only issue is we will never be able to receive content updates as that would patch root access. Kinda a lose lose situation. lol
Its cool dont get me wrong... To sit on the shelf and say i have 5 of them. But in know way fun to use if you already had your netflix and youtube experience. I recommend android stick mk808 or higher even a roku as they are very fun to tinker with.
I think before the 3 months of Netflix expire we'll at least see a few more big names come on board. Both developers and customers are beating down the door to get in.
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I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.
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I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.
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Geez people! Have some freaking patients! The SDK is in beta and developers are not allowed to release apps yet. Do you really think they created an SDK to never release it? WTF! It's like a bunch of little kids in a candy store and their mom telling them they can't eat all their candy right away. The SDK WILL be released and people WILL create apps or add functionality to current apps...
Doctors have plenty of patients.
I'd bet the vast majority of purchasers will only ever use this for the 'sanctioned' apps that G itself gets behind. Picasa should have been included out the gate. When I hacked the mk808, it was one of the first things I wanted to do, get my photos up on the big screen. Maybe someday we'll see 'Chromecast-Ready' advertising, but I still wonder how G makes real bank on this product. It's saving grace so far is price and future potential.
edit: and the more I think about it, that future potential tends to circumvent G's interests.
While everyone has a conspiracy theory I think what we're seeing is a typical new product cycle. For a product like Chromecast to be successful Google needs as many apps to support it as possible. However, I'm sure after that app developers are reluctant to support a new hardware product until there are enough devices to warrant it. Look, Windows phone has millions of phones in use but app developers aren't going there. Yes, Chromecast doesn't require much from the app developer but using their precious resources costs money and they don't want to go there until the hardware was proving itself as something people wanted.
Hence Netflix. It was a seed product. An app many millions of people use. If they were on board it could help sell the product. And help it did. I believe the success of Chromecast caught Google off guard. Clearly they weren't able to handle the demand for hardware and the demand by app developers to get things into the Play Store. While they may have thought they'd have until Holiday season to get things rolling, it has been accelerated greatly.
I expect that the next run of the hardware will be bigger and longer. I work for a company that has products made in China. It can take 6 weeks just to get on the schedule of a manufacturer and then many weeks to produce and then 3 weeks to come across the water and go through customs, then another 2 weeks to get into the channel. That's months. Google has more money to throw at the manufacturer to speed things up but there may not be too many suppliers that can make this product.
Time is what is needed. By the end of the year we'll know a lot more. Be patient.
I'm writing a paper on the use of apps for my college course. Basically, I'm wanting to know what the main reason is for the development of apps from a developer's point of view. Is it money, making something useful, or pure entertainment in developing? Also, if you're not a developer how many apps do you have and how many do you actually use/find useful? If I could get some people to chime in and share their experiences and opinions it'd be greatly appreciated!
Non developer.
I mostly use (in order):
Tapatalk (car and IT forums)
Cortana (Windows Phone digital assistant)
Browsers (data compression, normal, tor)
Games (allsorted)
Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?
Not a developer, but I mostly use browsers and I also use ppsspp for my gaming needs. I find it fun to experiment with an Android device, because that way you get to explore your device's full potential. And since android is highly customisable, the possibilities are endless.
Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!
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Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?
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I do have other apps too, I just don't use them as regularly. Some of these are different launchers, lock screen customizers, and apps like tasker, as well as some one click root apps I'm trying. (if you can help me root my MT6572 please help here
Spoiler
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/how-to-root-mt6572-zte-telstra-tempo-t3063048
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All the apps I originally listed I never paid for except for GTA SA(not pirated, but I have some originally free games that are cracked)
On this post, I have paid for tasker, nova launcher prime and my locker pro. That was mostly because I had a free $20 google play voucher with my phone.
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Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!
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As for browsers, I use google chrome on my xperia sp (I might get rid of it when I root it though), whereas on my xperia t I mostly use the stock sony browser. Now, as for the ppsspp, it's actually a psp emulator. In other words, it allows you to run psp games (in .iso format) in your android phone. I think it's one of the best apps on the play store, since I don't like most native android games like temple run, minions and such. Since you have a note 4, which is a very powerful device, I highly recommend you to check it out.
This one IS coming from a developer.
Oftentimes, when I make an app, I saw a hole and I wanted to fill it. The most recent app spawned itself from the Droid Turbo not being rooted until now(finally).
People heard there was a root method so they were waiting on a hair trigger's notice to find out if it had been released. So I took it upon myself to let people know when it happened, where to get more info, and when it was released, how to get it for themselves. It spawned over 400 unique downloads on 15 different devices with an aggregate rating of 4.82.
I also like to improve on apps that I've already seen. If I feel something is drastically missing, I like to look at what they have and ask what I can do better with that.. then add what's missing.
Another example is an app I created that is made for creative commons photo sharing. So for example, when someone needs a picture for their design project, then they can simply open the app, search the word, and download. I came up with it for my senior project and we branded the whole thing, but it never went anywhere because it was unrefined.
In contrast to that reason, I often make apps because I'm testing something and it snowballs. I have a bunch of different "app pieces" in a handful of languages sitting around on my computer.
To summarize, I make apps because:
1. There's a hole and I'm going to fill it.
2. I want to improve what I see.
3. I'm simply passionate about it.
Hope that helps!
Hi all,
Just curious to see if many people out there are running there device without loading up Google services or apps. It interests me to think, what the device would run like if perhaps had alternatives to the Google framework running constantly and other apps in the place of Gmail,Maps etc.....
I see that someone has already attempted this:
http://android.izzysoft.de/articles/named/android-without-google-1
What are peoples thoughts, anyone tried this on our Shamu?
Thanks for posting this. That's an interesting article you attached. And yes I am interested in android without Google.
I had considered Ubuntu Touch, but the only phone it's relatively well developed for is the Nexus 4.
It would be interesting if a Dev would pick up Ubuntu Touch development for our device.
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cam30era said:
Thanks for posting this. That's an interesting article you attached. And yes I am interested in android without Google.
I had considered Ubuntu Touch, but the only phone it's relatively well developed for is the Nexus 4.
It would be interesting if a Dev would pick up Ubuntu Touch development for our device.
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I am indeed really curious to try this out sometime...
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I don't see the point to be honest. Its nothing I want to try.
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
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In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
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I feel the same. Everyone thinks that Google are reading our emails and watching our every move. In reality our emails are indexed (err... That's how SEARCH works) and the data that is collected is fed into a matrix to allow Google to sell advertising based on the fact they can target their campaigns... Its hardly evil. Its not like humans are (or even can) read the data...
Facebook is much more evil, and I let them have data.
crachel said:
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
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I feel the same. Everyone thinks that Google are reading our emails and watching our every move. In reality our emails are indexed (err... That's how SEARCH works) and the data that is collected is fed into a matrix to allow Google to sell advertising based on the fact they can target their campaigns... Its hardly evil. Its not like humans are (or even can) read the data...
Facebook is much more evil, and I let them have data.
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Agreed guys.
My curiosity lays in the potential any of any performance gains could be had, what with the occurrence of play services drains etc.
Like you say though, perhaps better the devil we know...
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Agreed guys.
My curiosity lays in the potential any of any performance gains could be had, what with the occurrence of play services drains etc.
Like you say though, perhaps better the devil we know...
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It could be worth a play for those reasons. Your OP did seem to point towards performance, until the link
rootSU said:
It could be worth a play for those reasons. Your OP did seem to point towards performance, until the link
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Aye it's the performance I'm intrigued by....
"Instead of being run-down to ~50% or less at the end of the day, my battery usually has 70%+ of its juice left when placed into its cradle at night, without me changing „my device usage patterns“.
I love flashing custom roms, currently I am on temasek cm12.1. With recent google play service updates I have fell victim to wakelocks etc. caused. I have seemed to put them at bay with disabling services however it makes me wonder, could I live without the google integration? For me, I use gmail, browser and contacts sync - but perhaps if I were to debloat all google services, could this be of benefit?
Who knows, it may all be a waste of time, but it could be fun to try at least!
Perhaps we could start listing applications which would still allow us to get things done, let's say's say an alternative maps app, email etc.
Interesting reads....
http://knitatoms.net/2014/02/android-without-google-apps/
http://www.itworld.com/article/2832391/mobile/can-an-android-phone-run-without-google-.html
Check these too!
http://0p.no/2014/10/16/nogapps___a_replacement_for_gapps.html
This guy went for it!
http://www.augmentedmind.de/en/articles/android-without-google.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
DebianDog said:
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
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http://www.slashgear.com/cyanogens-next-step-a-blu-phone-without-google-apps-24375192/
DebianDog said:
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
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Yeah but that's not for performance or data protection reasons. Its most likely so they can provide a self_contained product without the need for gapps
If you want to run Android without google applications, just pull and build from AOSP, and DON'T install any google application.
As far as what you will be missing.... play store (obviously). The only other "useful" google service that I can think of, is hangouts (voice/video calls over data network), and maybe some data sync like contacts. I can't stand google maps software, and typically disable it anyway. Copilot works much better (no data sucking on the road where cell service may not even be available), and if you need actual google maps..... they do have a website for it.
rootSU said:
Yeah but that's not for performance or data protection reasons. Its most likely so they can provide a self_contained product without the need for gapps
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I totally agree with your reasoning here.
Because, no one is going to claim better performance on a device without Google's services when after substituting another set of services to perform the same missing functions, the user is left with the similar performance hit.
I.E. - "Damn Cynanogen OS, all those MS services are eating up my RAM and bogging down my phone" ....
RW-1 said:
I totally agree with your reasoning here.
Because, no one is going to claim better performance on a device without Google's services when after substituting another set of services to perform the same missing functions, the user is left with the similar performance hit.
I.E. - "Damn Cynanogen OS, all those MS services are eating up my RAM and bogging down my phone" ....
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Possibly worse performance. If you think about it, Google all ties in together and shares data between each other, where as if you had multiple vendors all syncing, that's got to be worse
crachel said:
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator.
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A baby alligator, maybe, yes
crachel said:
Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data.
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I recommend open source alternatives wherever possible. But true, sometimes there are pretty good (or better) alternatives that are not. Feel free to ask specific questions. As for the maps apps: they usually don't collect location data (though they possibly could; but I know e.g. the dev of Locus Maps being quite privacy aware). Don't mix sheep with oxens: what collects those are not the maps apps, but e.g. the network location ("to improve service quality – and 'other things'"). And for that the series recommends OpenCellID – all going local on the device and you can check that (open source).
There are other things to gain: spreading your data across multiple providers versus having them concentrated in one hand makes "profiling" harder, for example. Or as a recent article on German's c't (computer+technic; unfortunately, the graphs are not online) showed: Much decreased network traffic, hence your data plan and your battery last longer :angel:
Disclosure: Yes, I'm "the guy" behind that article (and the one running that site). And yes, that Milestone still runs that way – and except for GCM there's not really anything I miss. Still.