Are the hardware navigation buttons not supposed to light up? I get that you could potentially use them by feel in the dark but i never even considered they wouldn't be back lit when i purchased it. If they can light up, where is the option to turn them on?
thejase said:
Are the hardware navigation buttons not supposed to light up? I get that you could potentially use them by feel in the dark but i never even considered they wouldn't be back lit when i purchased it. If they can light up, where is the option to turn them on?
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They do not light up. They also do not move or change. Menu, home, back. Took me a few years but I finally have that memorized, sometimes I can even remember in the terror of the inky black of night.
Edit: Wow just reread this post sorry for the unnecessary sarcasm, been a rough day. But no they don't light up, there is no way to make them light up, but it's never given me a problem and I've never heard anyone else have issues with it
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They do not light up. They also do not move or change. Menu, home, back. Took me a few years but I finally have that memorized, sometimes I can even remember in the terror of the inky black of night.
Edit: Wow just reread this post sorry for the unnecessary sarcasm, been a rough day. But no they don't light up, there is no way to make them light up, but it's never given me a problem and I've never heard anyone else have issues with it
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Thank you. Guess I'll just have to learn. I guess I could just use on screen nav if it bothers me that much.
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I didn't get the wizard for the camera, so the fact the flash is really nothing more than a flashlight doesn't bother me. However, it did occur to me that it would be really nice if you could turn that light on/off with a softbutton or from the start menu.
I know, it sounds weird, but I find myself using it as one periodically.
I guess I ought to look around and see what it takes to code for this thing ...
I wanted to use it as a flashlight, but I got more light from the front screen so I never got around to turning on the flash.
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I didn't get the wizard for the camera, so the fact the flash is really nothing more than a flashlight doesn't bother me. However, it did occur to me that it would be really nice if you could turn that light on/off with a softbutton or from the start menu.
I know, it sounds weird, but I find myself using it as one periodically.
I guess I ought to look around and see what it takes to code for this thing ...
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bad idea ...the camera flash/led will only last 10 minutes of continuous use then get dim and die. the led is crap. it a known fact .
sorry
A program that would make the screen completely white would work well. I had a similar program on an old Nokia phone I used to have.
if you start the camera and turn the flash on, then hit the power button on top it will put the phone it sleep mode. as soon as you need the light again, hit the power button and it comes right back on. works great when im djing and i forgot my mini flashlight or those batteries died.
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A program that would make the screen completely white would work well. I had a similar program on an old Nokia phone I used to have.
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Here you are
This app made the screen white on my Compact to use as a torch, no idea if it works with the Vario as well.
edit: Meschle beat me to it. Some people can't be beaten by a humble noob like me.
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Meschle beat me to it. Some people can't be beaten by a humble noob like me.
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lol koksie! I had that one too lurking somewhere :wink:
meschle said:
Here you are
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Thanks. It takes surprisingly long to load for some reason, but it does accomplish the task.
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Here you are
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Thanks. It takes surprisingly long to load for some reason, but it does accomplish the task.
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The one koksie posted loads faster, but the advantage with torch is that you can also use it to keep the backlight on, for say when you are playing a game and the backlight keeps going off - i find that so irritating! To do this you need start menu mapped to a hardware button - i use the comm button.
Ah, what a crew! I agree the screen can act as a good light as well, just seemed like I could put the virtually useless LED to use .
I'll give these a try, and thanks!
Brian
faria said:
bad idea ...the camera flash/led will only last 10 minutes of continuous use then get dim and die. the led is crap. it a known fact .
sorry
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One day before I went to sleep, I put my wizard to charge and, dont ask me how, accidentally pressed camera button and somehow got the LED on. When i woke up 8 HOURS LATER i found my wizard sitting there with the LED on. It was turned on all night.
2 months later, It still works to date.
Perhaps they had a bad production run of them. Of course, with my luck, that's what I would have gotten!
zeuzinn said:
faria said:
bad idea ...the camera flash/led will only last 10 minutes of continuous use then get dim and die. the led is crap. it a known fact .
sorry
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One day before I went to sleep, I put my wizard to charge and, dont ask me how, accidentally pressed camera button and somehow got the LED on. When i woke up 8 HOURS LATER i found my wizard sitting there with the LED on. It was turned on all night.
2 months later, It still works to date.
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The LED should have a very long life of about 100 000 hours at normal voltage. It will be excellent if somebody can develop a software to turn on/off the flashlight. I always us it as a torch.
biolover said:
zeuzinn said:
faria said:
bad idea ...the camera flash/led will only last 10 minutes of continuous use then get dim and die. the led is crap. it a known fact .
sorry
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One day before I went to sleep, I put my wizard to charge and, dont ask me how, accidentally pressed camera button and somehow got the LED on. When i woke up 8 HOURS LATER i found my wizard sitting there with the LED on. It was turned on all night.
2 months later, It still works to date.
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The LED should have a very long life of about 100 000 hours at normal voltage. It will be excellent if somebody can develop a software to turn on/off the flashlight. I always us it as a torch.
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Biolover there are enough stories on the forum of device led's burning out to put one off this idea - do a search and you will see what I mean :wink: The quality seems to vary.
Its not hard to replace the LED though, the wizard can easily be taken apart.
Hello, would it be possible for someone to write or modify _code to allow the four buttons to either stay on longer when activated or even always on when the screen is.
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Matt
People have been working on that since release to no avail :-(
Hmmm that's really disappointing. Thanks for your fast re
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Np, the best advice I can give you and its what most people have done is just learn where the buttons are in the dark. After a week or so it won't be such a problem I promise
I'm not sure how useful this is, but Sprint told one of the tech blogs (I forget which) in correspendence that on the Epic 4G that the setting that controls the backlighting on the slide out QWERTY will also affect the soft buttons. So maybe once those start making it into our hands we'll find out how it's done and implement it on the other Galaxy S handsets.
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
thatg said:
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
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Yes. Same here! I can't stand when I use gps at night and I can't see the buttons.
thatg said:
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
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QFT... It's stupid having them on a different timer than the "backlight".
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QFT... It's stupid having them on a different timer than the "backlight".
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Apparently the Samsung Epic's button lights stay on for the duration that the screen is on. Once the Epic firmware is released I'm sure the devs will find the files.
i usually just touch any where/move finger on the screen and the buttons just light up
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i usually just touch any where/move finger on the screen and the buttons just light up
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That and you memorize where they are at after some time. I 100% understand, it's not a huge deal after awhile but it's still a short sight.
TexUs said:
That and you memorize where they are at after some time. I 100% understand, it's not a huge deal after awhile but it's still a short sight.
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The Samsung guy demoing Media Hub even has trouble hitting one of the soft keys - though it does look like the keys stay lit longer on the Epic.
At about 1:35 he tries a couple times, and then has to tilt the phone to see the button.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-demos-samsungs-galaxy-s-media-hub
Man, I wish this problem was solved. For me, it's the most annoying thing (really the only annoying thing) about this phone. Yeah, by now I've pretty much memorized where the buttons are, but 1 in 5 times I miss-hit one of the bottom buttons because they don't stay lit. If they were lit as long as the screen was lit, I would never miss-hit them.
I looked/searched but i cant find a way to keep the lights on longer then 5 secs. the bottom five buttons.
any ideas?
I've read that its controlled by hardware and cant be changed, which would suck. Cant say for sure though.
I have seen a lot of complaints on this but all the hacks and mods I've tried have the same issue. It seems like another thing to get used to (like no notification led and no flash)
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i think the kernel has been modded to use as a notification led, but anyway if you touch the screen the lights come back on and how long does it take to learn the buttons any way?
we can hope that an experianced dev can work that into there busy schedules i wouldn't count on it
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I've read that its controlled by hardware and cant be changed, which would suck. Cant say for sure though.
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They can be changed...atleast they can on the i9000 which means all you need is patience...quite a bit of patience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772672
If the backlight notifications can be used based on calls to notifications, a call can be created to something related to screen/power/time etc to keep the lights running.
Ive managed to get used to it but the button press area is quite small too, meaning sometimes it takes a couple of tries to press it right, esp when you are holding the phone at funny angles.
Wish phones would come with real buttons again. I loved the layout and buttons on the Topaz.
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They can be changed...atleast they can on the i9000 which means all you need is patience...quite a bit of patience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772672
If the backlight notifications can be used based on calls to notifications, a call can be created to something related to screen/power/time etc to keep the lights running.
Ive managed to get used to it but the button press area is quite small too, meaning sometimes it takes a couple of tries to press it right, esp when you are holding the phone at funny angles.
Wish phones would come with real buttons again. I loved the layout and buttons on the Topaz.
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Isn't there a kernel update or something that had this update? (unless your running Froyo) You can at least use them for notifications lol. This:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762171
And yea, as much as i know where the buttons are, I still fail at exactly hitting them every now and then too lol.
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Isn't there a kernel update or something that had this update? (unless your running Froyo) You can at least use them for notifications lol. This:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762171
And yea, as much as i know where the buttons are, I still fail at exactly hitting them every now and then too lol.
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just touch the screen first, they'll light up!
Dani897 said:
just touch the screen first, they'll light up!
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Even when they are lit! lol I think its cuz i tap a lil too high from time to time; then happen to hold my phone funny like 50% of the time lol.\
Edit: spelling fail lol
yeah this is a pain in the balls. drives me nuts
This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
That's the cool thing about this phone. Don't worry about it
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This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
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You will get used to it and come to love it. the great thing is that it doesn't adversely effect your battery, it uses the special built in processors. I thought it was weird at first but now I just tap my phone or bump the table to see my notifications.
I love it because I never have to push the power button to turn my device on. This is a great way to save wear and tear on your power button. A lot of devices that rely on one button all the time (power button) end up with that button not working anymore. If I didn't have this option I would be using my volume rocker to power up my phone.
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This is easily my favorite feature about the Moto X. All I gotta do is pick up my phone and it automagically shows me any notifications and is ready to be unlocked. Power button? What's that?
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I like this feature. I usually tap my finger on the screen or press off to one side so the phone rocks slightly on the curved back to get the display to come on. As someone else said, it saves a lot of wear on the power button. I can't tell you how often I clicked my Razr Maxx on just to see what time it was, and clicked it off again immediately. The button never wore out, but it's nice not having to do it at all.
I do have a question though. I got the phone on Wednesday and didn't notice this at all until this morning, and I don't know if it's normal or not. While getting ready for work this morning I noticed the Active Display fire on and off a few times in a row. I thought since it was right at 7am that I may have gotten a few emails close together or something, and didn't worry about it.
When I got to work I set my phone on my desk and was reading emails and such and I noticed the display puling on and off about every 5-6 seconds. It fades in, holds for maybe 1 second and fades out. It only had one notification, for Plume (Twitter), which only polls every 15 minutes in the background, so I knew it wasn't getting new notifications repeatedly.
I can't remember if this was happening yesterday and I just opened it up right away to see what it was for, or if something actually changed. I disabled Plume from the Active Display list, which didn't change anything, I got the same result for email (Maildroid) and Snapchat.
I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
Thanks for any input anyone has on this...
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I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
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It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
Does the phone always light up when driving? I don't remember it happening on my old X but it's lights up at every bump on my new X.
Thinking I've frozen something I shouldn't have. Did not use assist on either phone.
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It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm guessing yesterday I either cleared them quickly, or they were present long enough to go slower and I didn't notice the repetition.
I will have to play around with what I actually want notifications for. Plume (Twitter) is the worst, followed by email. I wish I could turn on different channels for Plume so that Mentions/DMs could go to Active Display, but regular tweets didn't, but still have it do all in the notification shade. I might have to just settle for not getting a notification for all new tweets. Or increase my poll time...
Email might get shut off too. I get too much spam to care, and rarely get any emails that are urgent enough to warrant it.
Yes, mine lights up when driving Lol. The second I press on the gas it lights up, tripped me out the first few days owning the device, but I'm used to it now.
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Looks as if I'm going to have to join the return game on this device. I've been a very happy TF700 owner on CROMi-X for the last year and still had that WOW effect when I started playing with this tablet.
Until it got dark.... I mean - the attached picture is with the tablet in sleep mode!!!!! That's gotta suck the battery dry like nothing.....
Opened a ticket with Asus for what it's worth...
I'm going to update to 4.3 manually, but don't expect that'll do much.
Does anybody have something similar?
Edit: After about an hour of reading the screen dimmed and had dark shadows on both sides. I flashed the 4.3 update manually since the System Update wouldn't - now everything seems to be fine.
Light bleed gone when in sleep mode and no shadows either... ?????????
Weird, glad you got it sorted out.
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Smart saving has nothing to do with smart dimming unfortunately. You can only turn smart dimming off if you are rooted. I'd take it back and get a replacement as what you are seeing is not normal.
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Never seen this on any tablet.
To me it seems that some parts of the Led backlight are not working correct or totally not.
Better try to get it swapped or Rma'd ASAP.
R.I.P
I was filling out the Amazon return form and picked it up 'cause I got a notification about new mail - and that's when the digitizer gave up completely.
I was able to wipe my data by hooking it up to the TV and got it to reset with a lot of huntin' and pecking.
A replacement is on it's way. You gotta love Amazon :cyclops: