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Horrible HTC Support

Has anybody else had issues dealing with HTC support and been able to get any decent resolution?
I have been waiting for over 3 weeks since originally logging a support request on June 21 for my Google Nexus One to undergo a warranty repair because it would not power on, nor would it charge the battery.
I had shipped the phone June 23, and it had arrived at the Markham, Ontario facility on June 24.
On July 3, I had received a notification that it had finally arrived at the Houston, TX facility with the following status:
Status: We have received your phone at HTC service center.
Service Type: Repair
Issue Description: power button is not working
It is now July 14, and there has been no change to status at all. This is well over 25 days from original shipment, when I was assured by HTC that it would only require 7 days to repair and return the phone.
I have made more phone calls to the support line than I feel should be necessary, and I have received the following excuses from HTC staff:
- Markham only ships twice weekly to Houston
- It's in the repair centre, so it will only be 2-3 days longer
- The Houston facility has relocated to a larger facility, so expect a 2 day delay
- There's nothing we can do but escalate your ticket, the repair facility and call centres are 1000 miles away. We just can't walk over and get an update.
On two occasions I have asked for escalation, and for a phone call to let me know when I can expect my phone to be returned in working order. The first time was 2 weeks ago, and more recently on Friday I had requested a re-escalation.
To date I have not received a phone call apprising me of the status of my repair. I have little confidence in the support processes that HTC has put in place to have my warranty repair completed in a timely manner.
This has been a very trying experience for me at a huge inconvenience in that I have no phone to conduct my daily business and the fact that I have to constantly call HTC support center to request updates and resolution to my incident.
In short, I feel that HTC support staff have not been forthcoming, and in general, their attitude, including the supervisors, is "Nothing we can do for you, we don't care and we'll say anything to get you off the phone."
I am at the point now that I feel that I must give up on HTC and go to a competitor, and also at the point where I feel I would recommend my colleagues also do the same. I feel that I have been more than reasonable in my expectations for resolution and I consider HTC to have completely failed to address any of my concerns.
Any feedback from forum members is greatly appreciated,
cbrf4

I live in GA. I have had only one experience with HTC customer service. I called about my battery and explained that it was draining very quickly. The representative I spoke sent a new battery to me overnight at no charge. They told me to keep the battery I had.
I think that customer service experiences vary and I don't know what makes this so but in my experience the service has been excellent.

You should ask since its been 3 weeks, to send you a new one or have it replaced. I heard HTC supports been pretty good, from what i've read on this forum. They usually send phones out the next day when their doing a warranty replacement.

You should consider escalating your issue to higher-ups instead of talking to the phone reps. They will robotically feed you any line just to get you off the phone and move on to the next customer. Talk to a supervisor and make some demands. You are thier customer. Let them know that you are not happy.
It worked for me.

I'm really sorry about your experience, OP, and if I were you, I'd probably be at least as upset as you are, if not spitting, screaming mad.
Everyone has bad experiences with every company sometimes. This doesn't mean HTC is a bad company. Google has pissed me off to no end a few times, but I still <3 them.
People get pissed at me all day long at work, but we're still amongst the best in the industry we're in.

I've had good phone support experience with HTC. If I don't like a rep's answer & knowlege, then I would exculate to another.

I called for a replacement on 7/7, and they still haven't ship the replacement as of today. The return label is going to expire tomorrow...
sigh

Man, I really feel for you. Compared to your case, mine has been flawless and even I was extremely frustrated at the beginning.
I had issues with shipping the product there. They gave me a pre-paid shipping label paid by an account that Fedex claims was frauded and closed. My package spent 1.5 days extra in Montreal until I found out, but HTC was glad to call and give them another account number.
From that time on, the service has been FLAWLESS. The phone was received Friday at noon EST in Markham, Ontario. By MONDAY noon, it was in Texas
I mean, international shipping thousands of miles away in 1 day? And from Friday to Monday? To me that's absolutely fantastic.
I had read your thread and I was beginning to get nervous about the move affecting my repair, but as it turns out, the phone was put into repair today (Thursday), only 3 days after it arrived in Texas. The rep I spoke to on Monday told me that they run through a lot of testing, so the time frame means that they were well on schedule.
My phone is unlocked + rooted and has a custom recovery on it. The repair is being done free of charge!
The phone is currently running through its final rigorous testing phase and it should be shipped out tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll get it tomorrow evening!
The customer service reps have also been VERY helpful. They track everything. They know where the phone is and in what stage of the testing/repair its in. The guy I just spoke with who told me they're done the repair just took a few minutes to discuss HTC's repair policy with me and how they understand that this is a Google gadget and that people buy it ESPECIALLY to root it and have fun. He was even talking to me about the Droid X and how apparently they've put on a chip that will BRICK the phone if it's rooted (can't confirm/deny this).
I'd give the overall experience an 8.5/10 which would've been a 9.5/10 if they hadn't shipped me a pre-paid label with a closed account.

I've had a similar experience as the op.
I sent my n1 in for repair of the dust under screen. Sent it out monday and received it on thursday! This was a repair not a replacement. I was ecstatic!
Opened the box pulled out the phone and there was still dust under the screen and the screen also was loose and clicked when I applied very little pressure to the bottom left corner. I could see it physically move like it was not glued down. It was never like this when I sent it back originally.
I did not want to have to send it back again so I dealt with it for a couple more months. I then decided to send it back again for repair hoping that maybe they would have figured out a better way to fix it so the problem would actually be fixed and the phone would not come back in worse condition than I sent it out in.
I opted for the repair again (not the replacement) and was told 3-7 days like before. Well, after 10 days I decided to call and see what was going on. They told me they received it and it would be repaired within the next couple of days.
Ok I can deal with a small delay, they're probably a lot busier than when the n1 first came out so no problem. I wait 4 or 5 more days and call again. I am told that the repair facility decided to relocate to a new location and my phone was scheduled to be fixed on tuesday and shipped out the next day (wed). This call was made on a monday.
Well friday rolls around and I decide to call again being that there's no n1 at my house. I am told that the phone is in diagnostics and will be shipped out monday of the next week. Needless to say I am not happy anymore. I ask for them to just cancel the damn repair and send it back immediately and am told that they can do that for me but it would just result in me waiting even longer for my n1 to return. Obviously I don't want that.
Well it's monday and no n1, of course I call again and go through all the same old **** and tell the same story again (I have my repair order number memorized at this time now). Phone is still in diagnostics apparently and all that can be done is an escalation and a return phone call within 24-48 hrs. I tell them I don't believe I will be called back and want to talk to a manager or someone else that can give me some other information besides "diagnostics" that the computer screen is telling them. She says I can talk to a manager but they have no more information than they do and it will do me no good, so I get off the phone after making sure to write down her first and last name, as well as the manager's. I wanted to raise hell for when I didn't receive the 24-48hr phone call.
Now I'm just wanting to be an ass so I call again tuesday, same thing... Diagnostics, still waiting for phone call. Wednesday I call and the status has changed to "passed final testing". I am told the phone will ship out either today or tomorrow. I hang up the phone as happy as I could be while still being mad at them for this whole experience haha.
Friday the phone shows up right when I'm about to leave on a camping trip for the weekend. I check it for dust, there's none! Yay! I check the corner of the screen, it doesn't click but is a tiny bit loose and i can see it move... sigh. It looks as if at some point I will be dealing with this again but for now it's ok and I'm going to enjoy froyo.
I just don't understand how the csr I filed the initial claim with was able to tell me 3-7 days when they had to have known the repair facility was moving and everything would be delayed. I would have waited a month and then sent it back. I absolutely refuse to believe that the repair facility is so small that they just decided one day to up and move immediately. That sort of thing takes lots of planning way ahead of time.
This whole thing took about 4 weeks. What a nightmare. Also, about 3 weeks in I asked them to just send me a replacement and keep mine, this was also denied. The good news is, my bootloader was relocked and I rooted with the new method so as to keep the bootloader locked so next time I will be asking for a replacement, not a repair.
Good luck to anyone else.

[Story]Serious complaint and remorse for buying a Nexus 5 at Carphone Warehouse UK

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK​
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
Carphone Warehouse's Policy
If something's not working properly, here's what to do
Pop into any Carphone Warehouse store with:
your product
all the accessories that came with it (including any free gifts)
Preferably its original packaging
proof of purchase
We'll take a look at it, and if we can't fix it there and then, you'll be eligible for a return, exchange or repair. You can find out more about our repairs service on our repairs page.
Lots of common phone problems can be fixed with a simple software update, which you can do yourself. Check out our page and see how.​
So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?

Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.

Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying

jRi0T68 said:
I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?

I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..

Cactus42 said:
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.

I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?

I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.

[Q] Anyone ( for whatever reason ) returned their Glass?

I've had my glass since this past weekend, and as fun as a neat gimmick can be, it kind of got old fast. I have multiple issues with mine ( understanding it isn't a finished product ). Some of the problems I'm running into are;
Turning itself on ( I'll charge it for the night and keep it turned off, and when I unplug it in the morning, they're already on somehow )
Really poor battery life ( I know some people report bad battery, but, this is beyond it. It's on standby most of the time, and I'll still only get maybe 4-5 hours on it )
Very poor Wi-Fi ( Even when I'm in the same room as my router, I show only 1-2 bars is strength )
At this point, the glass has failed to really blow me away as a new device, however, I've noticed Google says if returned, there is none right now, but in the future could later charge a re-stocking fee. I'm wondering if anyone has returned theirs for whatever reason and have been charged one? If mine is having such issues and was sent back, I would like to assume the worst is I'd pay for my own shipping+handling.
Thoughts and/or experience?

MisterRich said:
I've had my glass since this past weekend, and as fun as a neat gimmick can be, it kind of got old fast. I have multiple issues with mine ( understanding it isn't a finished product ). Some of the problems I'm running into are;
Turning itself on ( I'll charge it for the night and keep it turned off, and when I unplug it in the morning, they're already on somehow )
Really poor battery life ( I know some people report bad battery, but, this is beyond it. It's on standby most of the time, and I'll still only get maybe 4-5 hours on it )
Very poor Wi-Fi ( Even when I'm in the same room as my router, I show only 1-2 bars is strength )
At this point, the glass has failed to really blow me away as a new device, however, I've noticed Google says if returned, there is none right now, but in the future could later charge a re-stocking fee. I'm wondering if anyone has returned theirs for whatever reason and have been charged one? If mine is having such issues and was sent back, I would like to assume the worst is I'd pay for my own shipping+handling.
Thoughts and/or experience?
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Where did you see the return policy? I have had them for 12 hours, and like yourself, am not blown away. Is that it? I keep saying to myself. I have a couple account issues, as it seems only to be able to recognize one gmail account at a time. They are neat, but not $1500.00 neat.

Exactly my thoughts. Not $1,500 neat. Especially acknowledging in the future production release there's no chance they'll retail $1,500 as well. My guess is once a final product is released they'll be 1/3 of that price. Moving along from that, here is where I read the terms for Glass including return information:
https://www.google.com/glass/terms/
Return Policy
If for any reason you do not wish to keep your Device, you have up to 30 days from the date the Device is delivered to you to cancel your purchase of the Device and your contract with Google. If you exercise your right of cancellation and the Device has been delivered to you, you are responsible for returning the Device as soon as possible and at your own cost. To initiate a return please contact Glass Support and obtain a return authorization. For some returns Google may charge you a restocking fee. Please review the restocking policies posted here to determine whether such fees apply to you. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account using your initial payment method minus any applicable shipping and handling and restocking fees.
You must take reasonable care of the items that you wish to return, and we request that you return the Device with its original packaging and any accessories. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account for the amount paid for the Device, less any shipping and handling charges, within a reasonable time. If you decide to cancel the purchase of the relevant Device as set out in this paragraph and if you fail to return the Device in accordance with these Terms, you may be charged a sum for our direct cost of recovering that Device, and we may deduct that sum from your refund.
I did actually just get off the phone with Google Glass support this morning and informed them the glass program wasn't right for me. They did send a return shipping label to send back. So far so good, so I will probably be sending them back this upcoming week.

MisterRich said:
Exactly my thoughts. Not $1,500 neat. Especially acknowledging in the future production release there's no chance they'll retail $1,500 as well. My guess is once a final product is released they'll be 1/3 of that price. Moving along from that, here is where I read the terms for Glass including return information:
https://www.google.com/glass/terms/
Return Policy
If for any reason you do not wish to keep your Device, you have up to 30 days from the date the Device is delivered to you to cancel your purchase of the Device and your contract with Google. If you exercise your right of cancellation and the Device has been delivered to you, you are responsible for returning the Device as soon as possible and at your own cost. To initiate a return please contact Glass Support and obtain a return authorization. For some returns Google may charge you a restocking fee. Please review the restocking policies posted here to determine whether such fees apply to you. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account using your initial payment method minus any applicable shipping and handling and restocking fees.
You must take reasonable care of the items that you wish to return, and we request that you return the Device with its original packaging and any accessories. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account for the amount paid for the Device, less any shipping and handling charges, within a reasonable time. If you decide to cancel the purchase of the relevant Device as set out in this paragraph and if you fail to return the Device in accordance with these Terms, you may be charged a sum for our direct cost of recovering that Device, and we may deduct that sum from your refund.
I did actually just get off the phone with Google Glass support this morning and informed them the glass program wasn't right for me. They did send a return shipping label to send back. So far so good, so I will probably be sending them back this upcoming week.
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Please keep this thread updated. I just purchased my explore glass in tangerine and am not sure if I will be holding onto my pair for the $1,700 the total cost ended up being. (I opted for the stereo headset as well + tax) I'm really excited to try them out but after reading threads like these feel like I may have a similar experience. My delivery is scheduled for tomorrow, hopefully they arrive before I have to go to work. I would like to know the return process and outcome for you. Thanks

kflanegan said:
Please keep this thread updated. I just purchased my explore glass in tangerine and am not sure if I will be holding onto my pair for the $1,700 the total cost ended up being. (I opted for the stereo headset as well + tax) I'm really excited to try them out but after reading threads like these feel like I may have a similar experience. My delivery is scheduled for tomorrow, hopefully they arrive before I have to go to work. I would like to know the return process and outcome for you. Thanks
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Hey guys, I did return my Glass, only reason being was Money, couldn't afford it after plumbing issues at the house. You have 30 days to do so. Just contact Glass support, let them know. They send you a box and a UPS label, pack everything up, ship it back to them, and about a week later you'll get a full refund. No restocking fee or anything. A VERY easy and painless process.

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Hey guys, I did return my Glass, only reason being was Money, couldn't afford it after plumbing issues at the house. You have 30 days to do so. Just contact Glass support, let them know. They send you a box and a UPS label, pack everything up, ship it back to them, and about a week later you'll get a full refund. No restocking fee or anything. A VERY easy and painless process.
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Good info- I have had mine since Dec. 13th. I've had a few issues-
Why can't the battery be on the left side?? All the weight it on one side, not terrible but just kinda funky-
Where the metal ends right above my right ear, scratches my ear- I've seen multiple people complaining about this and putting mole skin on it-
Plain home screen? Just the time?
No real settings? No ability to clear cards?
Battery isn't terrible bad (unless you're showing them to everyone).
Yea it's neat but still way too early for a release. I'm going to send mine back and get my $1,620 back... Sooner rather than later too- If they fall off my head and break they're not returnable and can't be fixed.
Anybody ever think about selling them on ebay?? I've seen a few pair go for $2,000+ within the last few days, only a couple hundred $ profit after ebay fees but still better than returning for $0 profit...

Just like mentioned above, it was really painless. I called Google support and their emailed me a shipping label. They however did not send me a box. I will maybe try contacting them again to see if they'd be willing to do so because I'd rather send it back in their custom box than something I put together. I considered selling them on eBay but their privacy policy does mention they don't want owners selling it third party, and I'd hate to be in the scenario someone who buys it has a problem and then tries contacting Google Glass support and find out I was the original owner by serial and they get upset with me for breaking the policy. Maybe I'm just over paranoid.
Anyways, seems quite painless as long as you do it within the 30 days, the support was very prompt and polite and didn't dispute the problem. I informed them they just weren't meeting my needs. I just couldn't keep them charged in order to play with them. Hope this helps anyone who's curious.

MisterRich said:
Just like mentioned above, it was really painless. I called Google support and their emailed me a shipping label. They however did not send me a box. I will maybe try contacting them again to see if they'd be willing to do so because I'd rather send it back in their custom box than something I put together. I considered selling them on eBay but their privacy policy does mention they don't want owners selling it third party, and I'd hate to be in the scenario someone who buys it has a problem and then tries contacting Google Glass support and find out I was the original owner by serial and they get upset with me for breaking the policy. Maybe I'm just over paranoid.
Anyways, seems quite painless as long as you do it within the 30 days, the support was very prompt and polite and didn't dispute the problem. I informed them they just weren't meeting my needs. I just couldn't keep them charged in order to play with them. Hope this helps anyone who's curious.
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I have also initiated my return process through email. I'll keep the thread updated with my experience. I used my Glasses over the past week in various circumstances and while I enjoyed the neat factor and various built in features cannot currently justify the high price tag for my everyday use. My main concerns are battery life and real world use case scenario's. My battery typically lasted 3-4 hours maybe 5-6 with light use. This seems short for the hardware involved and tiny screen the device needs to power. I believe if there was a more expansive settings menu where wifi and bluetooth could be turned off when not in use battery life could easily be extended to 7-8 hours for taking pictures/videos and such. I couldn't find enough use cases for the current crop of glassware available and found the cards for updates very annoying after they built up over the days and week I used Glass. No way to dismiss them apparently even after a factory reset and new setup. Anyway when it's all said and done I felt very lucky to have the opportunity to use Glass even for just one week. This experience has kept me very interested in the new technology and I tried to evangelize and give any interested geeks the chance to try out my pair whenever someone came up to me and asked questions. I won't miss all the stares from people who had no idea what was on my face and certainly let me know it when I glanced their way. Also constantly worrying about where the glasses are and making sure they were safe and not in danger will be a sigh of relief.

I initiated my return process via phone this morning. I should be getting an empty box with a shipping label. Indeed it was a very neat gadget but I simply could not justify the 1600 price tag on it. It's got a lot of great apps that have potential though. I will be following the news about them closely still.
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Got the box Monday morning. It seems from the instructions that they alloted no room for the accessories in the return box?

Agreed
All of the aforementioned issues appear to be the norm. I contacted Google for return and got the hard sell, and decided to try them for another week just for good measure, but battery life coupled with price vs utility makes keeping them unlikely. Although I DO like the Tesla and Strava apps quite a bit.

Great Experience with Asurion

Hey Everyone,
I just wanted to tell everyone about my recent experience with the insurance provider of Sprint, Asurion. In the past I heard a lot of terrible things about them, and really expected the worst. On Sunday I was pushed into the corner of a table and my phone hit the corner, cracking the screen and for whatever reason keeping the screen from actually functioning at all. Sunday night I attempted to file a claim, but for security reasons I had to call them.
Monday morning rolls around and I call. They have all of my information from the initial claim and only need my credit card for the deductible. Throughout this entire process they wouldn't do anything unless I had my Sprint pin, which was nice because meant they were serious about security since it is hard to access the pin. The Asurion rep tells me that I'll get the phone most likely the next day and I received tracking information a few hours later that said the same thing.
So Tuesday rolls around, and on the tracker is says that it should arrive at the destination by 3pm. Sure enough, by 2pm it was already there. The self activation wouldn't allow me activate the phone (again for some odd security reason) and I had to call Sprint directly. I called and quickly got a very pleasant woman named Christina who was very clear, loud, American, and enjoyed chatting with me while we waited for the phone to finish its testing. Within 10 minutes I was up and running again.
To be honest I was completely surprised by the great service that I received throughout the entire process. Better yet, I'm pretty sure the phone I got to replace mine was brand new since it had no marks on it and still had the original stickers.
TL;DR I had a great experience with Asurion and Sprint after breaking my phone.
Side note: The reason we paid $11/mo is because its a convenience. Asurion covers everything that could possibly happen to the phone, and then gets a new phone extremely quickly, quicker than most other companies. Many people on my account need this service, including myself since I'm at school and am very involved on campus and speak with outside companies and advisers quite a bit. While it seems unnecessary to pay this fee every month, it is definitely FASTER than saving that money up and buy a new Nexus 5 directly from Google for $350. Will it be nice? Of course it will be, but I won't get it as fast as Asurion sends it.

Asurion: Excellent Customer Service!
monkeychef said:
Hey Everyone,
I just wanted to tell everyone about my recent experience with the insurance provider of Sprint, Asurion. In the past I heard a lot of terrible things about them, and really expected the worst. On Sunday I was pushed into the corner of a table and my phone hit the corner, cracking the screen and for whatever reason keeping the screen from actually functioning at all. Sunday night I attempted to file a claim, but for security reasons I had to call them.
Monday morning rolls around and I call. They have all of my information from the initial claim and only need my credit card for the deductible. Throughout this entire process they wouldn't do anything unless I had my Sprint pin, which was nice because meant they were serious about security since it is hard to access the pin. The Asurion rep tells me that I'll get the phone most likely the next day and I received tracking information a few hours later that said the same thing.
So Tuesday rolls around, and on the tracker is says that it should arrive at the destination by 3pm. Sure enough, by 2pm it was already there. The self activation wouldn't allow me activate the phone (again for some odd security reason) and I had to call Sprint directly. I called and quickly got a very pleasant woman named Christina who was very clear, loud, American, and enjoyed chatting with me while we waited for the phone to finish its testing. Within 10 minutes I was up and running again.
To be honest I was completely surprised by the great service that I received throughout the entire process. Better yet, I'm pretty sure the phone I got to replace mine was brand new since it had no marks on it and still had the original stickers.
TL;DR I had a great experience with Asurion and Sprint after breaking my phone.
Side note: The reason we paid $11/mo is because its a convenience. Asurion covers everything that could possibly happen to the phone, and then gets a new phone extremely quickly, quicker than most other companies. Many people on my account need this service, including myself since I'm at school and am very involved on campus and speak with outside companies and advisers quite a bit. While it seems unnecessary to pay this fee every month, it is definitely FASTER than saving that money up and buy a new Nexus 5 directly from Google for $350. Will it be nice? Of course it will be, but I won't get it as fast as Asurion sends it.
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neswii said:
I had a really sh*tty experience. When they replaced my HTC one due to the camera being faulty they gave me a One with a terrible, cheap screen. They do not use official components and that particular one had a cracked screen before or something. Just terrible. I demanded a new phone and got an S4.
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While we are disappointed to learn you had some challenges with your replacement, we are happy we were able to get you taken care of. Our goal is to provide like-for-like replacement devices for our customers. We do use both new and certified-like-new phones in order to provide this service. Rest assured, all of our certified-like-new phones use 100% OEM parts. We are so confident in the quality of this product that all of our phones do come with a 12-month limited warranty that will replace your device at no charge if it has a warranty failure during that time period. Is your current device functioning properly for you? If not, please let us know.
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You have probably had the only positive experience I've ever seen. Your better off buying through Squaretrade for insurance as long as your not worried about lost or stolen. The deductable is usually half the price too
Sent from my Lumia 928

Note 8 ordered from Samsung is only 20 days old won't power on and Samsung doesn't

I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.

Roughly 3 weeks total to have the new phone from start to finish?...i.e. 1 week to get the instructions, and another 2 weeks (15 days) to receive a new phone. Sounds like they were nice and helpful too...some of the two week delay could be quicker depending on shipping. Doesn't honestly sound too bad overall, but I agree it always sucks to have a problem with a new phone. Not giving you the bonus sounds wrong though, if they still offer it online. Hope it gets sorted out soon!

Maybe a surge fried it!

havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.

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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
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same here; always buy from the carrier if possible

Can you return the items that you bought to the retailer, or are you out of the return period? You might be able to sell them on eBay or craigslist or some place like that to get some of your money back. Then you can get your iPhone.
The only thing that has really ever tempted me about the iPhone is Apple's customer service. They are the kings of customer service. Aside from my phone, everything else that I have is Apple. You know that if you have problems, they will stand behind what they sell and resolution is only a drive down the road (assuming that you have an Apple store nearby. If not, not sure).

of course Apple stands behind their products; when you overcharge for everything, and have the largest profit margins in the electronics world, its easy to provide good service!

Where did you see the promo still ongoing?

Lol.. gee what did they ever do before they had phones...

Seriously, that's pretty good IMO. They are probably factoring the time you take to return the phone to them and the time they ship it to you. Most companies I dealt with for return/exchange will wait for the defective item to be returned first before they send out the replacement. Despite what was said and tested, they will test it themselves to ensure it is defective as well. Once they know it's defective they will ship the replacement. Some have a business supported plan where they will request payment first for a new item and ship immediately. Upon receipt, return instructions and label will be provided for the return. Once returned, they credit your account. So really don't see anything wrong with this. They are doing what other companies I've dealt with are doing from my own experiences.

The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.

havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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It is these stories , that I count my blessings that the two devices bought from Samsung direct aren't defective. I think one thing I've learned for others on here is this. I think next time I'll just buy the devices from my provider, after all I bought a T Mobile one from Samsung direct. The T Mobile service is much better.
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jason504 said:
The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
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That's what I used to think, but after buying from Samsung directly I will NEVER again buy from them. There was a problem with the first phone that had to be returned, and the experience, which is not over, has been a nightmare. If it had been through Verizon, it would have been a piece of cake. It completely changed my mind about any perceived advantages (NONE) of buying from company vs. carrier. I've had all generations of the Note, but after this I'm so burned out on Samsung, I'd consider something else. And actually I don't like the 8 any better than the 7 (which I still have). Their e-commerce department which they route everything through is a joke. They have absolutely no authority and the answer for everything is "wait for a link to be sent to you", which has never happened so far. Lesson learned - I'll vote with my feet.

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Seriously, that's pretty good IMO.
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I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
For an expensive new phone that dies within three weeks, anything less than that is a ripoff.
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Zeblade said:
Lol[,] gee what did they ever do before they had phones[?]
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Before phones, people didn't organize their social and commercial activity in a manner that depends on phones--and the cost to productivity was staggering.

Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.

mcdanielvzw said:
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
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Very true!

Gary02468 said:
I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
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That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.

sefrcoko said:
That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
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It's only a noticeable expense if a large fraction of their phones fail quickly. And the overnight (as opposed to two-day) shipping isn't all that important. Most of the benefit from the process I described would come from its other aspects, which would have little or no cost compared to their weeks-slower process.

Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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shook187 said:
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
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Sure, but if they have your credit-card number before they send the replacement phone, then if they find that the original phone was not really defective, they can insist that the replacement be returned in new condition (and subject to a standard restocking fee), or else charge the customer for a second phone. So they're fully protected.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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Why? Any vendor who sells someone a product that turns out to be defective has an obligation to replace it without an unnecessary, punitive delay.