Horrible HTC Support - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anybody else had issues dealing with HTC support and been able to get any decent resolution?
I have been waiting for over 3 weeks since originally logging a support request on June 21 for my Google Nexus One to undergo a warranty repair because it would not power on, nor would it charge the battery.
I had shipped the phone June 23, and it had arrived at the Markham, Ontario facility on June 24.
On July 3, I had received a notification that it had finally arrived at the Houston, TX facility with the following status:
Status: We have received your phone at HTC service center.
Service Type: Repair
Issue Description: power button is not working
It is now July 14, and there has been no change to status at all. This is well over 25 days from original shipment, when I was assured by HTC that it would only require 7 days to repair and return the phone.
I have made more phone calls to the support line than I feel should be necessary, and I have received the following excuses from HTC staff:
- Markham only ships twice weekly to Houston
- It's in the repair centre, so it will only be 2-3 days longer
- The Houston facility has relocated to a larger facility, so expect a 2 day delay
- There's nothing we can do but escalate your ticket, the repair facility and call centres are 1000 miles away. We just can't walk over and get an update.
On two occasions I have asked for escalation, and for a phone call to let me know when I can expect my phone to be returned in working order. The first time was 2 weeks ago, and more recently on Friday I had requested a re-escalation.
To date I have not received a phone call apprising me of the status of my repair. I have little confidence in the support processes that HTC has put in place to have my warranty repair completed in a timely manner.
This has been a very trying experience for me at a huge inconvenience in that I have no phone to conduct my daily business and the fact that I have to constantly call HTC support center to request updates and resolution to my incident.
In short, I feel that HTC support staff have not been forthcoming, and in general, their attitude, including the supervisors, is "Nothing we can do for you, we don't care and we'll say anything to get you off the phone."
I am at the point now that I feel that I must give up on HTC and go to a competitor, and also at the point where I feel I would recommend my colleagues also do the same. I feel that I have been more than reasonable in my expectations for resolution and I consider HTC to have completely failed to address any of my concerns.
Any feedback from forum members is greatly appreciated,
cbrf4

I live in GA. I have had only one experience with HTC customer service. I called about my battery and explained that it was draining very quickly. The representative I spoke sent a new battery to me overnight at no charge. They told me to keep the battery I had.
I think that customer service experiences vary and I don't know what makes this so but in my experience the service has been excellent.

You should ask since its been 3 weeks, to send you a new one or have it replaced. I heard HTC supports been pretty good, from what i've read on this forum. They usually send phones out the next day when their doing a warranty replacement.

You should consider escalating your issue to higher-ups instead of talking to the phone reps. They will robotically feed you any line just to get you off the phone and move on to the next customer. Talk to a supervisor and make some demands. You are thier customer. Let them know that you are not happy.
It worked for me.

I'm really sorry about your experience, OP, and if I were you, I'd probably be at least as upset as you are, if not spitting, screaming mad.
Everyone has bad experiences with every company sometimes. This doesn't mean HTC is a bad company. Google has pissed me off to no end a few times, but I still <3 them.
People get pissed at me all day long at work, but we're still amongst the best in the industry we're in.

I've had good phone support experience with HTC. If I don't like a rep's answer & knowlege, then I would exculate to another.

I called for a replacement on 7/7, and they still haven't ship the replacement as of today. The return label is going to expire tomorrow...
sigh

Man, I really feel for you. Compared to your case, mine has been flawless and even I was extremely frustrated at the beginning.
I had issues with shipping the product there. They gave me a pre-paid shipping label paid by an account that Fedex claims was frauded and closed. My package spent 1.5 days extra in Montreal until I found out, but HTC was glad to call and give them another account number.
From that time on, the service has been FLAWLESS. The phone was received Friday at noon EST in Markham, Ontario. By MONDAY noon, it was in Texas
I mean, international shipping thousands of miles away in 1 day? And from Friday to Monday? To me that's absolutely fantastic.
I had read your thread and I was beginning to get nervous about the move affecting my repair, but as it turns out, the phone was put into repair today (Thursday), only 3 days after it arrived in Texas. The rep I spoke to on Monday told me that they run through a lot of testing, so the time frame means that they were well on schedule.
My phone is unlocked + rooted and has a custom recovery on it. The repair is being done free of charge!
The phone is currently running through its final rigorous testing phase and it should be shipped out tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll get it tomorrow evening!
The customer service reps have also been VERY helpful. They track everything. They know where the phone is and in what stage of the testing/repair its in. The guy I just spoke with who told me they're done the repair just took a few minutes to discuss HTC's repair policy with me and how they understand that this is a Google gadget and that people buy it ESPECIALLY to root it and have fun. He was even talking to me about the Droid X and how apparently they've put on a chip that will BRICK the phone if it's rooted (can't confirm/deny this).
I'd give the overall experience an 8.5/10 which would've been a 9.5/10 if they hadn't shipped me a pre-paid label with a closed account.

I've had a similar experience as the op.
I sent my n1 in for repair of the dust under screen. Sent it out monday and received it on thursday! This was a repair not a replacement. I was ecstatic!
Opened the box pulled out the phone and there was still dust under the screen and the screen also was loose and clicked when I applied very little pressure to the bottom left corner. I could see it physically move like it was not glued down. It was never like this when I sent it back originally.
I did not want to have to send it back again so I dealt with it for a couple more months. I then decided to send it back again for repair hoping that maybe they would have figured out a better way to fix it so the problem would actually be fixed and the phone would not come back in worse condition than I sent it out in.
I opted for the repair again (not the replacement) and was told 3-7 days like before. Well, after 10 days I decided to call and see what was going on. They told me they received it and it would be repaired within the next couple of days.
Ok I can deal with a small delay, they're probably a lot busier than when the n1 first came out so no problem. I wait 4 or 5 more days and call again. I am told that the repair facility decided to relocate to a new location and my phone was scheduled to be fixed on tuesday and shipped out the next day (wed). This call was made on a monday.
Well friday rolls around and I decide to call again being that there's no n1 at my house. I am told that the phone is in diagnostics and will be shipped out monday of the next week. Needless to say I am not happy anymore. I ask for them to just cancel the damn repair and send it back immediately and am told that they can do that for me but it would just result in me waiting even longer for my n1 to return. Obviously I don't want that.
Well it's monday and no n1, of course I call again and go through all the same old **** and tell the same story again (I have my repair order number memorized at this time now). Phone is still in diagnostics apparently and all that can be done is an escalation and a return phone call within 24-48 hrs. I tell them I don't believe I will be called back and want to talk to a manager or someone else that can give me some other information besides "diagnostics" that the computer screen is telling them. She says I can talk to a manager but they have no more information than they do and it will do me no good, so I get off the phone after making sure to write down her first and last name, as well as the manager's. I wanted to raise hell for when I didn't receive the 24-48hr phone call.
Now I'm just wanting to be an ass so I call again tuesday, same thing... Diagnostics, still waiting for phone call. Wednesday I call and the status has changed to "passed final testing". I am told the phone will ship out either today or tomorrow. I hang up the phone as happy as I could be while still being mad at them for this whole experience haha.
Friday the phone shows up right when I'm about to leave on a camping trip for the weekend. I check it for dust, there's none! Yay! I check the corner of the screen, it doesn't click but is a tiny bit loose and i can see it move... sigh. It looks as if at some point I will be dealing with this again but for now it's ok and I'm going to enjoy froyo.
I just don't understand how the csr I filed the initial claim with was able to tell me 3-7 days when they had to have known the repair facility was moving and everything would be delayed. I would have waited a month and then sent it back. I absolutely refuse to believe that the repair facility is so small that they just decided one day to up and move immediately. That sort of thing takes lots of planning way ahead of time.
This whole thing took about 4 weeks. What a nightmare. Also, about 3 weeks in I asked them to just send me a replacement and keep mine, this was also denied. The good news is, my bootloader was relocked and I rooted with the new method so as to keep the bootloader locked so next time I will be asking for a replacement, not a repair.
Good luck to anyone else.

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Bell lied to me for 2 months...what can I do?

Ok.. I posted previously of my samsung galaxy s being sent away november 3rd and going to the store 3 times and calling in 10 times since..they said my phone was gone....and hadn't come back. This was yesterday.....I just called bell customer service hotline and guess what??!!!!!
My phone was signed off by the repair lady at bell on december 29 2010, she received it at the store!! This is bull****!! I have been lied to for the past 2 months or so all the reps saying my phone was gone and even went in person and said it wsnt there.....so I'm asking you guys, I'm gonna pick up my phone tommorow, show them all the dates about shipping to and from repair center...and CLEARLY showing they recevied it DECEMBER 29!!
What can I get out of a company that repeatly lied to me for the past 2 months? Sure ill take the phone but I want compensation for this bull**** management! ...any ideas??
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And to be honest, if you have to ask in a forum I don't think you'll make that much of an impression in the shop.
Just express your anger (which is totally valid btw) but I doubt you can start demanding things or compensation and if you get compensation it will be mostly depending on what the shop is willing to do.
Don't go to a store for this, they can't and probably won't help. Call customer service and tell them you have a problem that you have not been able to get help with and would like to speak to customer retention
Have as much proof of your case as possible. Exact date you brought the phone in, the exact date you got your phone back, the dates you spoke to customer service, etc.
Be nice, be assertive, but never be aggressive and never get angry. When a person is faced with aggressiveness or anger, they become defensive. They have the power in the situation, but you have the ability to change that.
Say your story to as many people as you have to at Bell. Don't be angry if you get passed around to other people. Always keep a record of who you talked to, when you talked to them, how long you spoke and the outcome.
Don't threaten, don't be abusive, don't yell. Do be nice, do smile (believe it or not, it will come through in the call), do be pleasant and always be assertive, but not aggressive.
If you call customer service and get an overseas rep, ask to be transferred to someone in Canada.
What do you want from Bell? What will you ask for them to do? Make sure it's not a ridiculous request.
Something like this is a good start to a phone call...
Hi, I am having a problem that I hope you can help me with. I have been with Bell Mobility for (amount of time with bell). My phone died on (Date) and I brought it in to (Specific Store) for servicing. I was told by the Bell representative that it will take (How long) and I left. When I called back on (Date) to inquire about my phone I was told (Details). I now it can take a while for service from a large company like Samsung, so I waited.
Use expressions like..
I really need your help, It would be great if, I love my phone but, Bell has great coverage but, At the end of my contract I hope Bell has some really nice phones for me to get. Make a little small talk. "I'm in Montreal and we got some snow recently, what's it like where you are?" Being nice can get you sooo far.
If you, are not getting anywhere, insist on speaking to a manager. If they refuse to pass you onto a manager, be persistent, but be nice. If they still refuse, say thank you, hang up and call back to speak to speak to a manager through someone else.
I hope this helped,
Ian
File a complaint with the CCTS.
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because im not with bell i called up the repair place a couple of times and they accidentally gave me both the shipping info to and from the repair place. the bell store held onto my phone for 1 week before they sent it to be fixed and 1 week after it was fixed. it could have been a lot longer than a week if i hadnt been in there with the proof it was there and basically yelling at them to give it to me.
arr0ww said:
File a complaint with the CCTS.
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This has nothing to do with the CCTS, wich "rules" the communications.
But rather with consumer service. If you are in Quebec, contact the OPC
http://www.opc.gouv.qc.ca/webforms/PES/PlainteEnLigne/Informations_en.aspx
Call, Complain, *****, Make sure they know your seriously pissed off and won't stand for nothing.
That's about the only advice anyone can give you.... for example, I called Dec 28th about mine, and got the $100 credit at that time. However they kept sending the replacement to the wrong address, I finally received it Jan 26th .... I got back on the phone and raised hell until they reversed my entire months billing since I had no phone due to there screw-ups for that month. End result, my bill has been a total of $29 for 3 months service now between the two credits.
Call the customer service be nice with them and told them your problem and try getting the 100$ credit if this doesn't work you can ask to speak to their supervisor then if it doesn't work the first time try to redo the same process until you find the right person warranty is never a simple thing theres always problems about getting it back to the customer but if your perseverent you'll get what you want.
What has worked for me in the past with poor costumer service and with bureaucracy in general is to constantly call and to keep a track of all communications (record calls and write down who you talked to).
In my experience, as soon as they'll realize dealing with you is more work to them then actually taking care of your phone, they'll take care of your phone..
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This has nothing to do with the CCTS, wich "rules" the communications.
But rather with consumer service. If you are in Quebec, contact the OPC/quote]
first post for me at least.. well
heres my story. bought the SGS on 29th of july. the official froyo jk4 bricked my phone on 24 dec. sent back my phone for repairs...
they lend me a ****ty moto dext. on 5 jan 2011, i called bell, complain, and got a 144$ credit (free caller ID & Voice mail for a year). But that guy at bell DIDNT KNOW the problem about 3 millions phones bricked in canada (pure BS!)
i filed a complain to the address on XDA.
they sent me an email few days about the fact that they were not responsible for that type of complain..
anyway, ive just had my 144$ credit. so no big deal. in my complain i asked for total refund or a new SGS.
finaly, my phone got back, brand new.
Last week, i had a call from the headoffice of bell about my complain (the system work ?!) i was suprised.
talk to that girl, got a 200$ credit.
so try complain to that site. even if they will tell you your at the wrong place.
for a 500$ phone, paid 0$ for it and got 344$ credit, that was a good deal...
...until it dies again !
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Well just came back from Bell and what a messed up day. They spent 30 mins looking for my phone. Found it then said they won't give it to me cause I didn't have orginal receipt...showed them it and they went and got my cell....wtf???? And ontop of that they made somee BS excuses to not give me ANYTHING saying maximum wait time was 12 weeks???? Wth??? Anddd that I couldn't get any special treatment since I was not a Bell customer anymore.....wow...sigh...I was hoping to get my brother bill credited or something.....these stores are ***beep*** up...excuse my language. But bs, I didn't get any compensation what so ever!!
And fyi.. they said they got the phone a day and a half ago, when it clearly states received Dec 29.....stupid store. I'm considering calling customer service and getting something done here its BS!
You do realise that December is the busiest time of the year right? It wouldn't be a surprise to me if it did take them a while to test it and send it off for repair.
It is also fair to expect a receipt when they return the goods to yourself, because otherwise, there is a risk anyone might pick up someone elses.
I'm not defending them, but do you mind if we see the paperwork (with blacked out sections)?

Poor HTC customer service regarding broken screen on dev edition

I would love advice on escalating this with HTC but I've hit a brick wall with their "escalations department"
History:
I've been a huge fan of HTC since the Nexus One
then Incredible
Thunderbolt
Rezound
DNA
One Dev Edition
I pre-ordered a One and received it without the cases I purchased in the same order.
After a couple of days dropped the One on a wood floor. *Usable but screen is cracked. *Completely my fault. * Called HTC and sent it in. Bill was to be $180 plus my shipping to them.
*I was told I would receive my phone back within 3 days of them receiving it. HTC Repair received it on 5/1/13. *On 5/6/13 I started to contact them since I had not heard back.
1-888-354-2375*- Phone customer service
15931135 order #
Ticket #:*13USC180001610
$180 to replace screen
1ZET02490799468921 UPS tracking number when I sent it to htc 2nd day air.
Delivered On:
Wednesday, *05/01/2013 at*10:07 A.M.
Left At:
Office
Signed By:
CASERES
5/6/13 no status on phone, I need to call back 5/7 if I don't hear. *They are escalating. *Melanie
now says 7-10 business days but our phone is not even logged in to their system as received yet.
5/7/13 45 minute call- Josh escalated- booked in- still not marked received
RMA (Phone and Accessories) escalations closed. *Other escalations team doesn't handle that.
chose preferred time for call back from them. *His screen shows successfully escalated.
open 8am-8pm
Rob- supervisor of call center
Isaiah booked in and received should change to scanned in. told me how to track it online
5/8/13 Gabby said rma will email me today.
Janet supervisor- will be receiving email today
RMA escalation closes at 9pm canada east coast time
all usa phones get scanned at the same center
40 minutes
5/8/13 HTC guy took off after connecting me to RMA. *Did not ask or say he just said "Juan is on the line with him" and bolted
Juan with RMA
IT department is waiting for part to be entered into their system
try to recommend not sending two day air
phone is not in system yet
can't tell me a date
3-5 days to get shipped out
29 more minutes
5/8/13 12:56pm received email from Juan telling me to call HTC
5/8/13 1:43pm Brandon at HTC phone cust service
read me my notes and told me a supervisor couldn't help me. *I told him he shouldn't decide that for his supervisor.
Megan- escalations supervisor- will take it over personally
will call me back within 3 hours
5/8/13 4:18pm Megan called me back- they will cover the repair as warranty due to my trouble. *I told her about bad pixel and fit problems.
506-694-4200 # is no good
5/8/13 5:24pm Isaiah called me back to tell me they entered it.
716-871-6400 # is no good
5/8/13 7:20pm I ran my visa in their web form for $180 to keep the repair going.
5/9/13 3:30pm no contact from HTC so I tried to call Megan back
got Jeff in regular phone support. *Megan's stuff is there but he thinks she is at lunch so he will send her an email
5/9/13 4:00pm Megan called back
She will reach me by 11am her time on Friday with a better plan because repair could not give her a date.
5/10/13 11am-ish Megan called back. Phone will ship back to me today and she will email me tracking number. They credited me back the $180.
5/10/13 No word from Megan. *HTC site still shows phone being repaired not shipped. *not sure on charge
5/11/13 Still in repair
5/12/13 still in repair
5/13/13 18 minutes still in repair and no call/email from Megan*
I called Tennessee office (got Mike) somehow- he didn't know who she was but he is trying to reach the canadian office. *He said that I can't decide which office receives my call.*
He reached RMA tier 2 but said they left for the day.
as of 5/10/13 Right now it is on hold for materials he said
Marybell HTC escalations dept emailed Megan about not following up with me
Does not show the $180 credited.
5/14/13 *1:45pm 9 minutes Ryan in Canada is looking for Megan. *He found her in a meeting. *She asked him to email her *my details and he will create a ticket.
5/14/13 4:30pm Megan called me back. *Now they are waiting for the bezel. I'm not sure why because it was just supposed to be the screen or glass for the screen. *She could not give me a date other than to say it takes a while to get the parts. *No stock on dev edition so they can't give me another one. *I asked for an AT&T model since I could still unlock the bootloader. *She will look into it and get back to me on Wednesday. *No real explanation of why she did not reach me back. *She claims she did not forget about me.
That's sucks but be happy they are taking care of you for free. I have dealt with Marybell and am dealing with Juan currently. They both are decent and will eventually get the issue resolved they are not fast though...
My One arrived today. Everything seems good with it
nullkill said:
That's sucks but be happy they are taking care of you for free. I have dealt with Marybell and am dealing with Juan currently. They both are decent and will eventually get the issue resolved they are not fast though...
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My One arrived today. Everything seems good with it

My RotateGate Experience

Over two weeks ago sent it in for the repair because from what I've seen, swapping at Verizon would just get me the same issue again. Got into them, stated part was on backorder. Decided to tell them send it back to me and I'd keep swapping with Verizon as I work in IT and can't be without a phone for an unknown period of time. Well, this is what I got back:
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They set up "overnight" back to them on Thursday 6/4/2015. I got it in on 6/5/2015 to UPS. They screwed up (Samsung) and didn't select Saturday so they got it Monday. Danny at the Executive Customer Relations set this all up, promised me the phone back no later than 6/10/2015. I call Tuesday, 6/9/2015 since no activity on ticket yet they signed at dock 6/8/2015. They stated issue with ticket, had to create new one, will be fixed/shipped Wednesday back Thursday. Wednesday comes, no activity, call again, they state tickets take 2-3 days under executive terms, I said wait, you created this new ticket, the original started Monday, they apologized "nothing they can do" (This was Ratamus at Executive Team, stated he was a manager), will be to me no later than Saturday, will have overnight with Saturday delivery. Thursday night, shipping created, 2 day air of course, not yet picked up. Friday I call, they say UPS has it, even though tracking says otherwise, I tell them I don't believe it, they say it will be here and "sorry we selected 2 day" Sure enough this morning I check, delivery scheduled for Tuesday now, I call to make them aware this is the absolute worst experience I've had in my entire life with customer service, and they will be getting a letter and complaint to BBB. I've made sure to post pictures of this on social media as giant companies need to be held accountable while touting an "excellent customer service experience is our goal".
Beware...
Update: About 3 weeks of waiting and I have a working phone. The Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Battery (for unknown reason) and USB port (again, unknown reason) were replaced. While it's in perfect working order at the current time I am filing with the BBB for the lack of communication, time wasted and outright lies from Samsung customer service and their executive team. Not to mention nobody with a defect this wide should have to be with out a phone for any period of time near this.
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I believe we have reached the point with these phones (all brands, all carriers) that we MUST not ever be without them at all EVER! All companies must be forced to provide a comparable replacement/loaner (if you will) to the customer until all warranty/defect issues are completely resolved. Now when it comes to end user damage such as a dropped phone/cracked screen etc., etc. Then the same should apply except it is up to the end user/customer to have purchased their own insurance plan in order to get the replacement phone before having to send in the broken one. These companies created this monster that we all have come to depend on for all of our communication needs and they MUST provide us with a way to keep our communications needs in tact while they repair and or replace defective phones. Especially with the prices we pay!!!
Chilinmichael said:
Over two weeks ago sent it in for the repair because from what I've seen, swapping at Verizon would just get me the same issue again. Got into them, stated part was on backorder. Decided to tell them send it back to me and I'd keep swapping with Verizon as I work in IT and can't be without a phone for an unknown period of time. Well, this is what I got back:
http://imgur.com/qZuLd9R
http://imgur.com/2Vfm6cc
They set up "overnight" back to them on Thursday 6/4/2015. I got it in on 6/5/2015 to UPS. They screwed up (Samsung) and didn't select Saturday so they got it Monday. Danny at the Executive Customer Relations set this all up, promised me the phone back no later than 6/10/2015. I call Tuesday, 6/9/2015 since no activity on ticket yet they signed at dock 6/8/2015. They stated issue with ticket, had to create new one, will be fixed/shipped Wednesday back Thursday. Wednesday comes, no activity, call again, they state tickets take 2-3 days under executive terms, I said wait, you created this new ticket, the original started Monday, they apologized "nothing they can do" (This was Ratamus at Executive Team, stated he was a manager), will be to me no later than Saturday, will have overnight with Saturday delivery. Thursday night, shipping created, 2 day air of course, not yet picked up. Friday I call, they say UPS has it, even though tracking says otherwise, I tell them I don't believe it, they say it will be here and "sorry we selected 2 day" Sure enough this morning I check, delivery scheduled for Tuesday now, I call to make them aware this is the absolute worst experience I've had in my entire life with customer service, and they will be getting a letter and complaint to BBB. I've made sure to post pictures of this on social media as giant companies need to be held accountable while touting an "excellent customer service experience is our goal".
Beware...
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Yes I agree your situation is terrible and you shouldn't have to deal with it but the bbb is pretty much useless. I owned a business and the bbb makes you pay to be a member and have little affect on anything other than of someone is mad they call for the customer and try to get the problem resolved. Was a member for 1 year and never renewed.
jaseman said:
I believe we have reached the point with these phones (all brands, all carriers) that we MUST not ever be without them at all EVER!
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Ok... You can think that all you want, but that doesn't mean they have to do it. No more than a car manufacturer has to give you a loaner while your car is being repaired. Some choose to give loaner cars, but they aren't obligated to.
If you can't live without a phone for a few days, it is YOUR responsibility to have a spare.
JasonJoel said:
Ok... You can think that all you want, but that doesn't mean they have to do it. No more than a car manufacturer has to give you a loaner while your car is being repaired. Some choose to give loaner cars, but they aren't obligated to.
If you can't live without a phone for a few days, it is YOUR responsibility to have a spare.
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Couldn't disagree more!
All reputable car dealerships provide loaner cars for warranty repairs. If they didn't they would not have customers. Must we have a spare car laying around in case our new, under warranty car, needs repairs? Granted the cost of a spare car is certainly more than a spare phone (not by much though at today's rates) but that should become part of the customer experience for cell phones also. Just calculate what "we" pay for one smart phone per year, including all communication services, and nearly mandatory insurance, and then look at the huge profit these companies are making, it seems to me that to provide us with a loaner that they can sell as a refurb later on is not asking too much!
Not even CLOSE to true. Many dealerships don't give out loaner cars. I've worked directly with dozens of dealerships from hyundai, Ford, to Audi - and it is not a given at all.
And no, you're not supposed to have a spare car... You are supposed to get a ride or rent one.
Obviously of you find a phone manufacturer that gives out free loaners, then feel free to give them all your business.
Good luck.
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Couldn't disagree more!
All reputable car dealerships provide loaner cars for warranty repairs. If they didn't they would not have customers. Must we have a spare car laying around in case our new, under warranty car, needs repairs? Granted the cost of a spare car is certainly more than a spare phone (not by much though at today's rates) but that should become part of the customer experience for cell phones also. Just calculate what "we" pay for one smart phone per year, including all communication services, and nearly mandatory insurance, and then look at the huge profit these companies are making, it seems to me that to provide us with a loaner that they can sell as a refurb later on is not asking too much!
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Lol is this a serious post
Quite the different outlooks here. From my experience here on Long Island in NY, yes, car dealers give out loaners if it's an extended repair more than a day, on average if under warranty. Cell phones are obviously not a car, and if I wanted a "loaner" in this situation I would have simply brought the phone into Verizon, they take it and send it in for repair and I get a replacement on site to keep (a refurb or new replacement, that's up to them per contract agreement). Since this issue was not fixed with any batch yet, the only option was to send into Samsung direct which they don't offer a loaner or replacement program. It is rather disturbing...with a computer hard drive for example, I can do an advance RMA where they hold my CC and send a new one first then I send old back so no down time. IMO, as cell phones are doing more than calls and adding features everyday with people relying on them more and more, companies such as Samsung should institute advance RMA or loaner policies for their benefit and the customer's.
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I would also like it if more companies offered advance RMA.
Back again! After months of being fine, it now won't rotate back to portrait correctly. Nicely done Samsung.
This time I'll be going to Verizon to warranty swap the phone, not wasting my time sending into Samsung and being out a phone again since it's painfully obvious they have no real fix. I'll let you all know I purely use Wireless charging, so maybe this worsens the situation/speeds up process. Either way, I am using the phone for what it's designed to do, and it's failed yet again.
Chilinmichael said:
Back again! After months of being fine, it now won't rotate back to portrait correctly. Nicely done Samsung.
This time I'll be going to Verizon to warranty swap the phone, not wasting my time sending into Samsung and being out a phone again since it's painfully obvious they have no real fix. I'll let you all know I purely use Wireless charging, so maybe this worsens the situation/speeds up process. Either way, I am using the phone for what it's designed to do, and it's failed yet again.
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technically they wont do a warranty swap to my knowledge in store... they might give a loaner however.. at least i was told warranty replacements have to be shipped which they overnighted mine
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elliwigy said:
technically they wont do a warranty swap to my knowledge in store... they might give a loaner however.. at least i was told warranty replacements have to be shipped which they overnighted mine
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Yes, it has to be shipped, which is fine. I'm going on vacation for a week so I'll do it when I get back. Wonder how long it'll take this time for it to happen again. Funny, if the camera can still rotate without issue why can't they software fix every other app? I've also factory reset the phone to see if that would fix it, which it did not.
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Yes, it has to be shipped, which is fine. I'm going on vacation for a week so I'll do it when I get back. Wonder how long it'll take this time for it to happen again. Funny, if the camera can still rotate without issue why can't they software fix every other app? I've also factory reset the phone to see if that would fix it, which it did not.
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we have an s6 straight and capacitive buttons went out then we got a replacement and those buttons went out within 24hrs lol.. some phones are just bad in general so im in the same boat with that device.. will be the 3rd phone when i decide to call them again
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i have had this happen to me twice already, i got a new phone both times.
On my new phone now, working...for now. I don't have hopes of it staying that way, but would be nice. I liken this to the defect of the Samsung Moment with CDMA lockup. They got sued, put out a supposed "software" fix while it was hardware related. They suit claimed when CDMA lockup occurred and a reboot needed to take place, you couldn't call 911 and it did not function for emergencies. Samsung quickly put out a software update that "allowed 911 dialing during lockup conditions" which was not true, at all. Go look it all up. I avoided Samsung for a long time after that, this is giving me that same feeling again and it's just as sad because like the Moment, it's one of the best phones (if not the best) currently on the market.

Delivered an empty box from Motorola RMA

I shattered my screen a month after getting my phone. Living in Colombia I knew I would have to do an advance replacement fee and send the phone to my friend and his wife. They were coming to visit in a few weeks. I called support and explained to them the situation. They agreed to send a phone to my friends home and when he came to colombia I would give him the broken one. Well 4 days went by and no tracking for my phone that was supposed to be 1 day shipping. I called back and they said it would ship that day. Another day and no shipping. I call again and now they tell me they don't even have blue in stock. So they offer a white one 64 gb. Keep in mind I had 15 phones delivered to my friend to bring to me, including some iphones 6S's. My friends arrive with all my phones and well an empty box from motorola. I also notice the advance fee dropped off my credit card. So I assume with all the confusion from support over the non stock phone they did a standard replacement, which totally screws me over. So I call them after the weekend and they tell me they have to report it to fedex. Well fedex calls me and says the package was signed for, I say of course because a package was delivered. Now keep in mind this is all back from November.
So I start emailing everyone from Motorola, twitter, facebook just trying to get some real answers.
Here is the response I got today
"Hi Greg.
The news is not good. The package was shipped with a 64GB Nexus 6, and we have the serial number. Since it was signed for, FedEx is less likely to approve a claim, but that will be your best bet.
The downside is that we are going to have to charge you for the phone we sent. If you send in your broken phone we can release that hold, but unfortunately you are going to be charged for the repair cost in any event.
We've been holding this open so we can't extend this indefinitely. We are able to hold it open for two weeks -- if you can return by then we'll release the hold on the phone we sent.
- Matt"
The funny part is and I have told them a few times that there is no hold and you would only drop the hold if you sent an empty standard replacement box. They seem to ignore this comment every time. What makes it even more difficult is, Chase Sapphire was going to fix the phone but now with all this crap who knows what will happen. I googled motorola support empty box and found one other person tweet to Motorola Support with the same issue. I am curious has anyone else had issues with doing an RMA with these guys?
What do expect to gain by posting this here?
daweeze02 said:
I shattered my screen a month after getting my phone. Living in Colombia I knew I would have to do an advance replacement fee and send the phone to my friend and his wife. They were coming to visit in a few weeks. I called support and explained to them the situation. They agreed to send a phone to my friends home and when he came to colombia I would give him the broken one. Well 4 days went by and no tracking for my phone that was supposed to be 1 day shipping. I called back and they said it would ship that day. Another day and no shipping. I call again and now they tell me they don't even have blue in stock. So they offer a white one 64 gb. Keep in mind I had 15 phones delivered to my friend to bring to me, including some iphones 6S's. My friends arrive with all my phones and well an empty box from motorola. I also notice the advance fee dropped off my credit card. So I assume with all the confusion from support over the non stock phone they did a standard replacement, which totally screws me over. So I call them after the weekend and they tell me they have to report it to fedex. Well fedex calls me and says the package was signed for, I say of course because a package was delivered. Now keep in mind this is all back from November.
So I start emailing everyone from Motorola, twitter, facebook just trying to get some real answers.
Here is the response I got today
"Hi Greg.
The news is not good. The package was shipped with a 64GB Nexus 6, and we have the serial number. Since it was signed for, FedEx is less likely to approve a claim, but that will be your best bet.
The downside is that we are going to have to charge you for the phone we sent. If you send in your broken phone we can release that hold, but unfortunately you are going to be charged for the repair cost in any event.
We've been holding this open so we can't extend this indefinitely. We are able to hold it open for two weeks -- if you can return by then we'll release the hold on the phone we sent.
- Matt"
The funny part is and I have told them a few times that there is no hold and you would only drop the hold if you sent an empty standard replacement box. They seem to ignore this comment every time. What makes it even more difficult is, Chase Sapphire was going to fix the phone but now with all this crap who knows what will happen. I googled motorola support empty box and found one other person tweet to Motorola Support with the same issue. I am curious has anyone else had issues with doing an RMA with these guys?
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this is a long shot but call and ask Fed-ex what the actual weight of the package vs what the customer printed on the shipping label. I used to work for a logistics company here in California and we would re weigh the freight before forwarding it out of our warehouse. I know Fed-Ex international also do this but i am not sure about domestic. If you can get that information from Fed-ex it might help support your claim with moto.
Good luck, hope it works out for you.
Thanks, I'll call them again today.

Note 8 ordered from Samsung is only 20 days old won't power on and Samsung doesn't

I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
Roughly 3 weeks total to have the new phone from start to finish?...i.e. 1 week to get the instructions, and another 2 weeks (15 days) to receive a new phone. Sounds like they were nice and helpful too...some of the two week delay could be quicker depending on shipping. Doesn't honestly sound too bad overall, but I agree it always sucks to have a problem with a new phone. Not giving you the bonus sounds wrong though, if they still offer it online. Hope it gets sorted out soon!
Maybe a surge fried it!
havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
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same here; always buy from the carrier if possible
Can you return the items that you bought to the retailer, or are you out of the return period? You might be able to sell them on eBay or craigslist or some place like that to get some of your money back. Then you can get your iPhone.
The only thing that has really ever tempted me about the iPhone is Apple's customer service. They are the kings of customer service. Aside from my phone, everything else that I have is Apple. You know that if you have problems, they will stand behind what they sell and resolution is only a drive down the road (assuming that you have an Apple store nearby. If not, not sure).
of course Apple stands behind their products; when you overcharge for everything, and have the largest profit margins in the electronics world, its easy to provide good service!
Where did you see the promo still ongoing?
Lol.. gee what did they ever do before they had phones...
Seriously, that's pretty good IMO. They are probably factoring the time you take to return the phone to them and the time they ship it to you. Most companies I dealt with for return/exchange will wait for the defective item to be returned first before they send out the replacement. Despite what was said and tested, they will test it themselves to ensure it is defective as well. Once they know it's defective they will ship the replacement. Some have a business supported plan where they will request payment first for a new item and ship immediately. Upon receipt, return instructions and label will be provided for the return. Once returned, they credit your account. So really don't see anything wrong with this. They are doing what other companies I've dealt with are doing from my own experiences.
The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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It is these stories , that I count my blessings that the two devices bought from Samsung direct aren't defective. I think one thing I've learned for others on here is this. I think next time I'll just buy the devices from my provider, after all I bought a T Mobile one from Samsung direct. The T Mobile service is much better.
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jason504 said:
The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
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That's what I used to think, but after buying from Samsung directly I will NEVER again buy from them. There was a problem with the first phone that had to be returned, and the experience, which is not over, has been a nightmare. If it had been through Verizon, it would have been a piece of cake. It completely changed my mind about any perceived advantages (NONE) of buying from company vs. carrier. I've had all generations of the Note, but after this I'm so burned out on Samsung, I'd consider something else. And actually I don't like the 8 any better than the 7 (which I still have). Their e-commerce department which they route everything through is a joke. They have absolutely no authority and the answer for everything is "wait for a link to be sent to you", which has never happened so far. Lesson learned - I'll vote with my feet.
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Seriously, that's pretty good IMO.
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I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
For an expensive new phone that dies within three weeks, anything less than that is a ripoff.
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Zeblade said:
Lol[,] gee what did they ever do before they had phones[?]
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Before phones, people didn't organize their social and commercial activity in a manner that depends on phones--and the cost to productivity was staggering.
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
mcdanielvzw said:
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
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Very true!
Gary02468 said:
I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
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That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
sefrcoko said:
That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
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It's only a noticeable expense if a large fraction of their phones fail quickly. And the overnight (as opposed to two-day) shipping isn't all that important. Most of the benefit from the process I described would come from its other aspects, which would have little or no cost compared to their weeks-slower process.
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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shook187 said:
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
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Sure, but if they have your credit-card number before they send the replacement phone, then if they find that the original phone was not really defective, they can insist that the replacement be returned in new condition (and subject to a standard restocking fee), or else charge the customer for a second phone. So they're fully protected.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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Why? Any vendor who sells someone a product that turns out to be defective has an obligation to replace it without an unnecessary, punitive delay.

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