Bell lied to me for 2 months...what can I do? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok.. I posted previously of my samsung galaxy s being sent away november 3rd and going to the store 3 times and calling in 10 times since..they said my phone was gone....and hadn't come back. This was yesterday.....I just called bell customer service hotline and guess what??!!!!!
My phone was signed off by the repair lady at bell on december 29 2010, she received it at the store!! This is bull****!! I have been lied to for the past 2 months or so all the reps saying my phone was gone and even went in person and said it wsnt there.....so I'm asking you guys, I'm gonna pick up my phone tommorow, show them all the dates about shipping to and from repair center...and CLEARLY showing they recevied it DECEMBER 29!!
What can I get out of a company that repeatly lied to me for the past 2 months? Sure ill take the phone but I want compensation for this bull**** management! ...any ideas??

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jark99 said:
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Please wait 24hrs before bumping threads...
And to be honest, if you have to ask in a forum I don't think you'll make that much of an impression in the shop.
Just express your anger (which is totally valid btw) but I doubt you can start demanding things or compensation and if you get compensation it will be mostly depending on what the shop is willing to do.

Don't go to a store for this, they can't and probably won't help. Call customer service and tell them you have a problem that you have not been able to get help with and would like to speak to customer retention
Have as much proof of your case as possible. Exact date you brought the phone in, the exact date you got your phone back, the dates you spoke to customer service, etc.
Be nice, be assertive, but never be aggressive and never get angry. When a person is faced with aggressiveness or anger, they become defensive. They have the power in the situation, but you have the ability to change that.
Say your story to as many people as you have to at Bell. Don't be angry if you get passed around to other people. Always keep a record of who you talked to, when you talked to them, how long you spoke and the outcome.
Don't threaten, don't be abusive, don't yell. Do be nice, do smile (believe it or not, it will come through in the call), do be pleasant and always be assertive, but not aggressive.
If you call customer service and get an overseas rep, ask to be transferred to someone in Canada.
What do you want from Bell? What will you ask for them to do? Make sure it's not a ridiculous request.
Something like this is a good start to a phone call...
Hi, I am having a problem that I hope you can help me with. I have been with Bell Mobility for (amount of time with bell). My phone died on (Date) and I brought it in to (Specific Store) for servicing. I was told by the Bell representative that it will take (How long) and I left. When I called back on (Date) to inquire about my phone I was told (Details). I now it can take a while for service from a large company like Samsung, so I waited.
Use expressions like..
I really need your help, It would be great if, I love my phone but, Bell has great coverage but, At the end of my contract I hope Bell has some really nice phones for me to get. Make a little small talk. "I'm in Montreal and we got some snow recently, what's it like where you are?" Being nice can get you sooo far.
If you, are not getting anywhere, insist on speaking to a manager. If they refuse to pass you onto a manager, be persistent, but be nice. If they still refuse, say thank you, hang up and call back to speak to speak to a manager through someone else.
I hope this helped,
Ian

File a complaint with the CCTS.
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because im not with bell i called up the repair place a couple of times and they accidentally gave me both the shipping info to and from the repair place. the bell store held onto my phone for 1 week before they sent it to be fixed and 1 week after it was fixed. it could have been a lot longer than a week if i hadnt been in there with the proof it was there and basically yelling at them to give it to me.

arr0ww said:
File a complaint with the CCTS.
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This has nothing to do with the CCTS, wich "rules" the communications.
But rather with consumer service. If you are in Quebec, contact the OPC
http://www.opc.gouv.qc.ca/webforms/PES/PlainteEnLigne/Informations_en.aspx

Call, Complain, *****, Make sure they know your seriously pissed off and won't stand for nothing.
That's about the only advice anyone can give you.... for example, I called Dec 28th about mine, and got the $100 credit at that time. However they kept sending the replacement to the wrong address, I finally received it Jan 26th .... I got back on the phone and raised hell until they reversed my entire months billing since I had no phone due to there screw-ups for that month. End result, my bill has been a total of $29 for 3 months service now between the two credits.

Call the customer service be nice with them and told them your problem and try getting the 100$ credit if this doesn't work you can ask to speak to their supervisor then if it doesn't work the first time try to redo the same process until you find the right person warranty is never a simple thing theres always problems about getting it back to the customer but if your perseverent you'll get what you want.

What has worked for me in the past with poor costumer service and with bureaucracy in general is to constantly call and to keep a track of all communications (record calls and write down who you talked to).
In my experience, as soon as they'll realize dealing with you is more work to them then actually taking care of your phone, they'll take care of your phone..

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This has nothing to do with the CCTS, wich "rules" the communications.
But rather with consumer service. If you are in Quebec, contact the OPC/quote]
first post for me at least.. well
heres my story. bought the SGS on 29th of july. the official froyo jk4 bricked my phone on 24 dec. sent back my phone for repairs...
they lend me a ****ty moto dext. on 5 jan 2011, i called bell, complain, and got a 144$ credit (free caller ID & Voice mail for a year). But that guy at bell DIDNT KNOW the problem about 3 millions phones bricked in canada (pure BS!)
i filed a complain to the address on XDA.
they sent me an email few days about the fact that they were not responsible for that type of complain..
anyway, ive just had my 144$ credit. so no big deal. in my complain i asked for total refund or a new SGS.
finaly, my phone got back, brand new.
Last week, i had a call from the headoffice of bell about my complain (the system work ?!) i was suprised.
talk to that girl, got a 200$ credit.
so try complain to that site. even if they will tell you your at the wrong place.
for a 500$ phone, paid 0$ for it and got 344$ credit, that was a good deal...
...until it dies again !
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Well just came back from Bell and what a messed up day. They spent 30 mins looking for my phone. Found it then said they won't give it to me cause I didn't have orginal receipt...showed them it and they went and got my cell....wtf???? And ontop of that they made somee BS excuses to not give me ANYTHING saying maximum wait time was 12 weeks???? Wth??? Anddd that I couldn't get any special treatment since I was not a Bell customer anymore.....wow...sigh...I was hoping to get my brother bill credited or something.....these stores are ***beep*** up...excuse my language. But bs, I didn't get any compensation what so ever!!
And fyi.. they said they got the phone a day and a half ago, when it clearly states received Dec 29.....stupid store. I'm considering calling customer service and getting something done here its BS!

You do realise that December is the busiest time of the year right? It wouldn't be a surprise to me if it did take them a while to test it and send it off for repair.
It is also fair to expect a receipt when they return the goods to yourself, because otherwise, there is a risk anyone might pick up someone elses.
I'm not defending them, but do you mind if we see the paperwork (with blacked out sections)?

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Horrible HTC Support

Has anybody else had issues dealing with HTC support and been able to get any decent resolution?
I have been waiting for over 3 weeks since originally logging a support request on June 21 for my Google Nexus One to undergo a warranty repair because it would not power on, nor would it charge the battery.
I had shipped the phone June 23, and it had arrived at the Markham, Ontario facility on June 24.
On July 3, I had received a notification that it had finally arrived at the Houston, TX facility with the following status:
Status: We have received your phone at HTC service center.
Service Type: Repair
Issue Description: power button is not working
It is now July 14, and there has been no change to status at all. This is well over 25 days from original shipment, when I was assured by HTC that it would only require 7 days to repair and return the phone.
I have made more phone calls to the support line than I feel should be necessary, and I have received the following excuses from HTC staff:
- Markham only ships twice weekly to Houston
- It's in the repair centre, so it will only be 2-3 days longer
- The Houston facility has relocated to a larger facility, so expect a 2 day delay
- There's nothing we can do but escalate your ticket, the repair facility and call centres are 1000 miles away. We just can't walk over and get an update.
On two occasions I have asked for escalation, and for a phone call to let me know when I can expect my phone to be returned in working order. The first time was 2 weeks ago, and more recently on Friday I had requested a re-escalation.
To date I have not received a phone call apprising me of the status of my repair. I have little confidence in the support processes that HTC has put in place to have my warranty repair completed in a timely manner.
This has been a very trying experience for me at a huge inconvenience in that I have no phone to conduct my daily business and the fact that I have to constantly call HTC support center to request updates and resolution to my incident.
In short, I feel that HTC support staff have not been forthcoming, and in general, their attitude, including the supervisors, is "Nothing we can do for you, we don't care and we'll say anything to get you off the phone."
I am at the point now that I feel that I must give up on HTC and go to a competitor, and also at the point where I feel I would recommend my colleagues also do the same. I feel that I have been more than reasonable in my expectations for resolution and I consider HTC to have completely failed to address any of my concerns.
Any feedback from forum members is greatly appreciated,
cbrf4
I live in GA. I have had only one experience with HTC customer service. I called about my battery and explained that it was draining very quickly. The representative I spoke sent a new battery to me overnight at no charge. They told me to keep the battery I had.
I think that customer service experiences vary and I don't know what makes this so but in my experience the service has been excellent.
You should ask since its been 3 weeks, to send you a new one or have it replaced. I heard HTC supports been pretty good, from what i've read on this forum. They usually send phones out the next day when their doing a warranty replacement.
You should consider escalating your issue to higher-ups instead of talking to the phone reps. They will robotically feed you any line just to get you off the phone and move on to the next customer. Talk to a supervisor and make some demands. You are thier customer. Let them know that you are not happy.
It worked for me.
I'm really sorry about your experience, OP, and if I were you, I'd probably be at least as upset as you are, if not spitting, screaming mad.
Everyone has bad experiences with every company sometimes. This doesn't mean HTC is a bad company. Google has pissed me off to no end a few times, but I still <3 them.
People get pissed at me all day long at work, but we're still amongst the best in the industry we're in.
I've had good phone support experience with HTC. If I don't like a rep's answer & knowlege, then I would exculate to another.
I called for a replacement on 7/7, and they still haven't ship the replacement as of today. The return label is going to expire tomorrow...
sigh
Man, I really feel for you. Compared to your case, mine has been flawless and even I was extremely frustrated at the beginning.
I had issues with shipping the product there. They gave me a pre-paid shipping label paid by an account that Fedex claims was frauded and closed. My package spent 1.5 days extra in Montreal until I found out, but HTC was glad to call and give them another account number.
From that time on, the service has been FLAWLESS. The phone was received Friday at noon EST in Markham, Ontario. By MONDAY noon, it was in Texas
I mean, international shipping thousands of miles away in 1 day? And from Friday to Monday? To me that's absolutely fantastic.
I had read your thread and I was beginning to get nervous about the move affecting my repair, but as it turns out, the phone was put into repair today (Thursday), only 3 days after it arrived in Texas. The rep I spoke to on Monday told me that they run through a lot of testing, so the time frame means that they were well on schedule.
My phone is unlocked + rooted and has a custom recovery on it. The repair is being done free of charge!
The phone is currently running through its final rigorous testing phase and it should be shipped out tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll get it tomorrow evening!
The customer service reps have also been VERY helpful. They track everything. They know where the phone is and in what stage of the testing/repair its in. The guy I just spoke with who told me they're done the repair just took a few minutes to discuss HTC's repair policy with me and how they understand that this is a Google gadget and that people buy it ESPECIALLY to root it and have fun. He was even talking to me about the Droid X and how apparently they've put on a chip that will BRICK the phone if it's rooted (can't confirm/deny this).
I'd give the overall experience an 8.5/10 which would've been a 9.5/10 if they hadn't shipped me a pre-paid label with a closed account.
I've had a similar experience as the op.
I sent my n1 in for repair of the dust under screen. Sent it out monday and received it on thursday! This was a repair not a replacement. I was ecstatic!
Opened the box pulled out the phone and there was still dust under the screen and the screen also was loose and clicked when I applied very little pressure to the bottom left corner. I could see it physically move like it was not glued down. It was never like this when I sent it back originally.
I did not want to have to send it back again so I dealt with it for a couple more months. I then decided to send it back again for repair hoping that maybe they would have figured out a better way to fix it so the problem would actually be fixed and the phone would not come back in worse condition than I sent it out in.
I opted for the repair again (not the replacement) and was told 3-7 days like before. Well, after 10 days I decided to call and see what was going on. They told me they received it and it would be repaired within the next couple of days.
Ok I can deal with a small delay, they're probably a lot busier than when the n1 first came out so no problem. I wait 4 or 5 more days and call again. I am told that the repair facility decided to relocate to a new location and my phone was scheduled to be fixed on tuesday and shipped out the next day (wed). This call was made on a monday.
Well friday rolls around and I decide to call again being that there's no n1 at my house. I am told that the phone is in diagnostics and will be shipped out monday of the next week. Needless to say I am not happy anymore. I ask for them to just cancel the damn repair and send it back immediately and am told that they can do that for me but it would just result in me waiting even longer for my n1 to return. Obviously I don't want that.
Well it's monday and no n1, of course I call again and go through all the same old **** and tell the same story again (I have my repair order number memorized at this time now). Phone is still in diagnostics apparently and all that can be done is an escalation and a return phone call within 24-48 hrs. I tell them I don't believe I will be called back and want to talk to a manager or someone else that can give me some other information besides "diagnostics" that the computer screen is telling them. She says I can talk to a manager but they have no more information than they do and it will do me no good, so I get off the phone after making sure to write down her first and last name, as well as the manager's. I wanted to raise hell for when I didn't receive the 24-48hr phone call.
Now I'm just wanting to be an ass so I call again tuesday, same thing... Diagnostics, still waiting for phone call. Wednesday I call and the status has changed to "passed final testing". I am told the phone will ship out either today or tomorrow. I hang up the phone as happy as I could be while still being mad at them for this whole experience haha.
Friday the phone shows up right when I'm about to leave on a camping trip for the weekend. I check it for dust, there's none! Yay! I check the corner of the screen, it doesn't click but is a tiny bit loose and i can see it move... sigh. It looks as if at some point I will be dealing with this again but for now it's ok and I'm going to enjoy froyo.
I just don't understand how the csr I filed the initial claim with was able to tell me 3-7 days when they had to have known the repair facility was moving and everything would be delayed. I would have waited a month and then sent it back. I absolutely refuse to believe that the repair facility is so small that they just decided one day to up and move immediately. That sort of thing takes lots of planning way ahead of time.
This whole thing took about 4 weeks. What a nightmare. Also, about 3 weeks in I asked them to just send me a replacement and keep mine, this was also denied. The good news is, my bootloader was relocked and I rooted with the new method so as to keep the bootloader locked so next time I will be asking for a replacement, not a repair.
Good luck to anyone else.

How i got my Bionic and how verizon made it right for me.

Hey Everyone, Sorry for the long story, i know verizon is not the best sometimes, but this goes to show that they do try to make it right, and i belive they made it right for me. i figure i would share my story with you guys.
I have been with verizon for 9 months, how i got the bionic, was my droid x2 was bad got a replacement from verizon we'll it was doa, we'll went into a verizon store, told them what happend, they gave me a brand new droid x2, we'll i went online to look at my bill, we'll they changed my contract date without my knowledge and used me early upgrade, i called verizon and talked to a manager and explained since the store made a mistake, can i take it back and get different, he said yes, i went to the store we'll the store, told me no you are sol, and they was thinking it was funny, and so did the the store manager of that verizon store, so i called verizon and explained since they used my early upgrade date and changed my contract date with my knowledge, that if they let me take the droid x2 back to the store and get the bionic since i have went thru all this with that store and them doing this and thinking it was a joke, she said let me talk to a higher up manager and i will call you back she said about an hour, she called back 20 minutes later and said ok we can do this for you, and we will change your contract back to what it was before, so i paid $300 for the Bionic free overnight shipping and no fee's, plus $50 off my monthly bill.
But she told me i had to take it back to the store where this happend, we'll it was 30 minutes from my home 1 way, so an hour trip both way's i went to the store the next day to return i can live with out a phone for a day, so i go in the store again for a 2nd time and told them verizon customer service said, i am here to return this phone and i need proof of return with a manager signature, we'll they told me NO and starting laughing at me for the 2nd time, so i went to my car and called verizon again, and told them what happend, this time verizon told me to wait until i get my Bionic, so i get my Bionic and i take my 3rd trip out there and walked in there and told them i need the manager i waited 45 minutes for the manager, once again i told the manager, i am here to return this phone and i need proof of return with your signature, she told me no, and then she started calling verizon and saying you are wrong we wont take this back, and who ever told you this is wrong, and was laughing at me to my face.
so i go outside while my friend is in the store and they are all texting each other about this and laughing about this, we'll i got on the phone to a verizon customer service rep, explained what happend, and told him how they were telling me i am wrong, and was telling them that it is noted in my account, he put me on hold for 5 minutes.
best part of my day, he said put her on the phone so i handed her the phone and said here is verizon and they want to talk to her they were talking for 30 minutes and the next thing i know i have proof the phone had been returned and she was reading the serial number off to the verizon service rep. i d\dealt with this store for 3 days and countless hours, and alot of driving, but verizon made it right in my eye's by how the customer service rep on the phone handled it.
STAY AWAY FROM THE VERIZON WIRELESS STORE IN 1130 Levis Commons Boulevard, Perrysburg
so thats how i got my Bionic
but i love this phone!!!!! its the best, very fast everything works great as it should. and i am just in love with it lol
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This post made my eyes vomit.
Grats on the bionic. Perhaps you can use it now to look up proper grammar and punctuation. Also, just fyi, "we'll" = "We Will" not "well".
Yes sorry i dont have good grammer at all i will admit it, i wont say i do, because that will be a lie.
and thank you for your honesty
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Yes sorry i dont have good grammer at all i will admit it, i wont say i do, because that will be a lie.
and thank you for your honesty
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Great post and great example of "not blowing your top" in an extreme situation. You are to be congratulated and I sure hope you enjoy your new Bionic as much as I am enjoying mine!!
Well done!!!
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Great post and great example of "not blowing your top" in an extreme situation. You are to be congratulated and I sure hope you enjoy your new Bionic as much as I am enjoying mine!!
Well done!!!
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Thank you
no reason for me to get mad, why make it wrose and make myself look like a jackass. they did it to them selfs already.
I already left a message for there District manager
Very nice post. It's nice to see some people still have patience.
If I had verizon store reps laughing at me while I tried doing something I told would work. I would have filed a formal complaint with Verizon and made sure it was on file. I don't tolerate that stuff.
Verizon has always done well by me when problems have popped up. I have gotten credits on my phone bill of $25 at least twice that I can remember.
I did found out the district manager's number and called and left a message and see if she calls back or not, if not i will being calling verizon and make sure i get it dealt with.
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STAY AWAY FROM THE VERIZON WIRELESS STORE IN 1130 Levis Commons Boulevard, Perrysburg
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Yes, I would find a new store run by someone else. Win some/lose some. Glad they finally made it right.
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I did found out the district manager's number and called and left a message and see if she calls back or not, if not i will being calling verizon and make sure i get it dealt with.
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If she has any shred of integrity she'll call back. Hope she does.
Out of curiosity, what was the reason the manager gave for refusing the return? If you were within your 14day WFG period, they can't refuse unless the device had been damaged in some way.
Also, and this is just FYI, there is nothing for the manager/Rep/anyone to sign to validate the return. Returning anything, either a case or phone or car charger, generates its own order number and is attached to the remarks in the account. The order number is also present on your reciept.
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Banggugyangu said:
This post made my eyes vomit.
Grats on the bionic. Perhaps you can use it now to look up proper grammar and punctuation. Also, just fyi, "we'll" = "We Will" not "well".
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You know what you self absorbed, self righteous know nothing foot in mouth bonehead of death?
English is not everyone's first language. If you have trouble reading posts, move along and buy yourself a 1st grade education....especially the helmet boy certified program where your brain learns to deduce what was meant based on comprehension and rudimentary deduction skills you obviously missed out on all because you were too busy peeing your pants and stealing 1% cartons of milk....mmmm K?
It's no wonder why there is so much estrogen in baby formula....it turns men into babies who expect via bigotry and prepubescent baby booboo passive aggressive character denigration based on a post by someone who obviously hasn't grammatical perfection yet has to put up with an English speaking twit who cannot afford a fellow member a modicum of latitude considering his sentence structure/syntax don't appear impeccible by your grandiose expectation(s) all because mommy forgot to hug you before tying your shoes...
Don't be a jerkoff.
Inform a mod if his posts offend you....need some patience, understanding and some much needed acceptance, you do.
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Different phone, same predicament...
Each and every corporate retail location I've dealt with (be it csr, super or actual store gm) they are NOT obligated to accept a return or exchange "IF" said item (be it accessory or phone) has been ordered/purchased over the phone OR online...
Technically the Store does not want the added inventory and technically it is against the terms ajd conditions because as we all know...everything comes down to contracts, and what is exclusionary or inclusionary of which the return of said item falls directly under the aptly ambiguous return/exchange policy which, does NOT differentiate Verizon Wireless entities via the location of the point of sale...
So what does the brick and mortar say? This:
"If you look inside of your box...there is a return shipping label..." then they tell you:
"I can return it for you no problem....but all I'm going to do is out it back in the box, tape and ship it....but I won't return it here because the inventories do not match up," which smells like melted BS...
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Out of curiosity, what was the reason the manager gave for refusing the return? If you were within your 14day WFG period, they can't refuse unless the device had been damaged in some way.
Also, and this is just FYI, there is nothing for the manager/Rep/anyone to sign to validate the return. Returning anything, either a case or phone or car charger, generates its own order number and is attached to the remarks in the account. The order number is also present on your reciept.
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Because she used my early upgrade and changed my contract with out my promission. and she was trying to cover it up, it was a replacement for the droid x2 and she never gave me the box/battery/back cover just the phone, but yet she used my early upgrade and changed my contract date.
SigmunDroid said:
Different phone, same predicament...
Each and every corporate retail location I've dealt with (be it csr, super or actual store gm) they are NOT obligated to accept a return or exchange "IF" said item (be it accessory or phone) has been ordered/purchased over the phone OR online...
Technically the Store does not want the added inventory and technically it is against the terms ajd conditions because as we all know...everything comes down to contracts, and what is exclusionary or inclusionary of which the return of said item falls directly under the aptly ambiguous return/exchange policy which, does NOT differentiate Verizon Wireless entities via the location of the point of sale...
So what does the brick and mortar say? This:
"If you look inside of your box...there is a return shipping label..." then they tell you:
"I can return it for you no problem....but all I'm going to do is out it back in the box, tape and ship it....but I won't return it here because the inventories do not match up," which smells like melted BS...
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The only thing that can't be returned to a corporate store is something purchased at an indirect location(i.e. authorized retailer). The reason for this is because you did not purchase the item from Verizon Wireless. You purchased this item from Joe Bob's Cellular Sales who purchased it from Verizon Wireless to sell the product and service to you.
Killz86 said:
Because she used my early upgrade and changed my contract with out my promission. and she was trying to cover it up, it was a replacement for the droid x2 and she never gave me the box/battery/back cover just the phone, but yet she used my early upgrade and changed my contract date.
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? This does not make sense. Btw, I'm not trying to defend her or anything, just trying to figure out what she was trying to do.
If you receive a replacement phone without a box/battery/backcover, then you have received a warranty replacement phone. Did you pay anything out of pocket for the replacement Droid X2? An early upgrade is exactly what it sounds like. You pay the 2yr pricing of the device, plus $20, and get it right then and there inside the store.
yes i got a received a warranty replacement phone from them in store, no out of pocket cost, but what she did was used my early upgrade and changed my contract date like stated when she did the replacement she changed my account with out my promission or knowledge, and i called verizon and spoke with them and explained to them and they said, the store made a mistake and you can exchange for what ever phone you want, and when i called there they said me no, that did not happen, they did nto use my early upgrade date or change my contract.
but verizon customer service said they did, and i belive verizon customer service over a verizon store any day.
Like i said, I was just curious about your situation because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But at the end of the day all that matters is someone took care of you and you have your shiny new phone.
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The part you quoted was in response to the other guy, not you. I'm glad you know the difference because a lot of people don't. They just see big red on the outside and assume its all the same.
Anyway, I was just curious about your situation because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But at the end of the day all that matters is someone took care of you and you have your shiny new phone.
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i add'd above i fixed my error. to explain it better i hopefully made it clearer
Yeah I generally have good luck calling Verizon CS. I broke my Incredible by throwing it on my driveway to prove to my buddy that it wouldn't break. Well it cracked the screen.
So I had a decision to make. 20 bucks for a new screen from ebay. Or 300 for a new Bionic. I chose the Bionic. Called Verizon 20 minutes later, told the rep EXACTLY what happened... And how much I had been drinking. And he told me he would wave the early upgrade fee for me considering my situation. Just wish Verizon would allow in store pickup. I have 2 Verizon corporate stores within a mile of my house. Could have had it Saturday but now I have to wait till tomorrow, possibly Wednesday!
And yes I know throwing my Incredible on the cement was a stupid idea. But I had a lot of Jagermeister in me!
I really wanted this phone but didn't have an upgrade and didn't want to open a new line.
Nice VZW store guy allowed me to open a "new line" with the Bionic and then transferred the phone to my "old line" account. He put in an IMEI or something for an old phone so I didn't require data. It was a family share plan.
I called VZW 2 days later and said I didn't need the second line. The lady on the phone said I can sell my "old feature phone" on ebay...
Took a little work and activation fee cost, but nice little workaround.

[Story]Serious complaint and remorse for buying a Nexus 5 at Carphone Warehouse UK

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK​
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
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So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?
Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.
Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.
I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?
I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.

My RotateGate Experience

Over two weeks ago sent it in for the repair because from what I've seen, swapping at Verizon would just get me the same issue again. Got into them, stated part was on backorder. Decided to tell them send it back to me and I'd keep swapping with Verizon as I work in IT and can't be without a phone for an unknown period of time. Well, this is what I got back:
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They set up "overnight" back to them on Thursday 6/4/2015. I got it in on 6/5/2015 to UPS. They screwed up (Samsung) and didn't select Saturday so they got it Monday. Danny at the Executive Customer Relations set this all up, promised me the phone back no later than 6/10/2015. I call Tuesday, 6/9/2015 since no activity on ticket yet they signed at dock 6/8/2015. They stated issue with ticket, had to create new one, will be fixed/shipped Wednesday back Thursday. Wednesday comes, no activity, call again, they state tickets take 2-3 days under executive terms, I said wait, you created this new ticket, the original started Monday, they apologized "nothing they can do" (This was Ratamus at Executive Team, stated he was a manager), will be to me no later than Saturday, will have overnight with Saturday delivery. Thursday night, shipping created, 2 day air of course, not yet picked up. Friday I call, they say UPS has it, even though tracking says otherwise, I tell them I don't believe it, they say it will be here and "sorry we selected 2 day" Sure enough this morning I check, delivery scheduled for Tuesday now, I call to make them aware this is the absolute worst experience I've had in my entire life with customer service, and they will be getting a letter and complaint to BBB. I've made sure to post pictures of this on social media as giant companies need to be held accountable while touting an "excellent customer service experience is our goal".
Beware...
Update: About 3 weeks of waiting and I have a working phone. The Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Battery (for unknown reason) and USB port (again, unknown reason) were replaced. While it's in perfect working order at the current time I am filing with the BBB for the lack of communication, time wasted and outright lies from Samsung customer service and their executive team. Not to mention nobody with a defect this wide should have to be with out a phone for any period of time near this.
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I believe we have reached the point with these phones (all brands, all carriers) that we MUST not ever be without them at all EVER! All companies must be forced to provide a comparable replacement/loaner (if you will) to the customer until all warranty/defect issues are completely resolved. Now when it comes to end user damage such as a dropped phone/cracked screen etc., etc. Then the same should apply except it is up to the end user/customer to have purchased their own insurance plan in order to get the replacement phone before having to send in the broken one. These companies created this monster that we all have come to depend on for all of our communication needs and they MUST provide us with a way to keep our communications needs in tact while they repair and or replace defective phones. Especially with the prices we pay!!!
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Over two weeks ago sent it in for the repair because from what I've seen, swapping at Verizon would just get me the same issue again. Got into them, stated part was on backorder. Decided to tell them send it back to me and I'd keep swapping with Verizon as I work in IT and can't be without a phone for an unknown period of time. Well, this is what I got back:
http://imgur.com/qZuLd9R
http://imgur.com/2Vfm6cc
They set up "overnight" back to them on Thursday 6/4/2015. I got it in on 6/5/2015 to UPS. They screwed up (Samsung) and didn't select Saturday so they got it Monday. Danny at the Executive Customer Relations set this all up, promised me the phone back no later than 6/10/2015. I call Tuesday, 6/9/2015 since no activity on ticket yet they signed at dock 6/8/2015. They stated issue with ticket, had to create new one, will be fixed/shipped Wednesday back Thursday. Wednesday comes, no activity, call again, they state tickets take 2-3 days under executive terms, I said wait, you created this new ticket, the original started Monday, they apologized "nothing they can do" (This was Ratamus at Executive Team, stated he was a manager), will be to me no later than Saturday, will have overnight with Saturday delivery. Thursday night, shipping created, 2 day air of course, not yet picked up. Friday I call, they say UPS has it, even though tracking says otherwise, I tell them I don't believe it, they say it will be here and "sorry we selected 2 day" Sure enough this morning I check, delivery scheduled for Tuesday now, I call to make them aware this is the absolute worst experience I've had in my entire life with customer service, and they will be getting a letter and complaint to BBB. I've made sure to post pictures of this on social media as giant companies need to be held accountable while touting an "excellent customer service experience is our goal".
Beware...
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Yes I agree your situation is terrible and you shouldn't have to deal with it but the bbb is pretty much useless. I owned a business and the bbb makes you pay to be a member and have little affect on anything other than of someone is mad they call for the customer and try to get the problem resolved. Was a member for 1 year and never renewed.
jaseman said:
I believe we have reached the point with these phones (all brands, all carriers) that we MUST not ever be without them at all EVER!
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Ok... You can think that all you want, but that doesn't mean they have to do it. No more than a car manufacturer has to give you a loaner while your car is being repaired. Some choose to give loaner cars, but they aren't obligated to.
If you can't live without a phone for a few days, it is YOUR responsibility to have a spare.
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Ok... You can think that all you want, but that doesn't mean they have to do it. No more than a car manufacturer has to give you a loaner while your car is being repaired. Some choose to give loaner cars, but they aren't obligated to.
If you can't live without a phone for a few days, it is YOUR responsibility to have a spare.
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Couldn't disagree more!
All reputable car dealerships provide loaner cars for warranty repairs. If they didn't they would not have customers. Must we have a spare car laying around in case our new, under warranty car, needs repairs? Granted the cost of a spare car is certainly more than a spare phone (not by much though at today's rates) but that should become part of the customer experience for cell phones also. Just calculate what "we" pay for one smart phone per year, including all communication services, and nearly mandatory insurance, and then look at the huge profit these companies are making, it seems to me that to provide us with a loaner that they can sell as a refurb later on is not asking too much!
Not even CLOSE to true. Many dealerships don't give out loaner cars. I've worked directly with dozens of dealerships from hyundai, Ford, to Audi - and it is not a given at all.
And no, you're not supposed to have a spare car... You are supposed to get a ride or rent one.
Obviously of you find a phone manufacturer that gives out free loaners, then feel free to give them all your business.
Good luck.
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Couldn't disagree more!
All reputable car dealerships provide loaner cars for warranty repairs. If they didn't they would not have customers. Must we have a spare car laying around in case our new, under warranty car, needs repairs? Granted the cost of a spare car is certainly more than a spare phone (not by much though at today's rates) but that should become part of the customer experience for cell phones also. Just calculate what "we" pay for one smart phone per year, including all communication services, and nearly mandatory insurance, and then look at the huge profit these companies are making, it seems to me that to provide us with a loaner that they can sell as a refurb later on is not asking too much!
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Lol is this a serious post
Quite the different outlooks here. From my experience here on Long Island in NY, yes, car dealers give out loaners if it's an extended repair more than a day, on average if under warranty. Cell phones are obviously not a car, and if I wanted a "loaner" in this situation I would have simply brought the phone into Verizon, they take it and send it in for repair and I get a replacement on site to keep (a refurb or new replacement, that's up to them per contract agreement). Since this issue was not fixed with any batch yet, the only option was to send into Samsung direct which they don't offer a loaner or replacement program. It is rather disturbing...with a computer hard drive for example, I can do an advance RMA where they hold my CC and send a new one first then I send old back so no down time. IMO, as cell phones are doing more than calls and adding features everyday with people relying on them more and more, companies such as Samsung should institute advance RMA or loaner policies for their benefit and the customer's.
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I would also like it if more companies offered advance RMA.
Back again! After months of being fine, it now won't rotate back to portrait correctly. Nicely done Samsung.
This time I'll be going to Verizon to warranty swap the phone, not wasting my time sending into Samsung and being out a phone again since it's painfully obvious they have no real fix. I'll let you all know I purely use Wireless charging, so maybe this worsens the situation/speeds up process. Either way, I am using the phone for what it's designed to do, and it's failed yet again.
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Back again! After months of being fine, it now won't rotate back to portrait correctly. Nicely done Samsung.
This time I'll be going to Verizon to warranty swap the phone, not wasting my time sending into Samsung and being out a phone again since it's painfully obvious they have no real fix. I'll let you all know I purely use Wireless charging, so maybe this worsens the situation/speeds up process. Either way, I am using the phone for what it's designed to do, and it's failed yet again.
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technically they wont do a warranty swap to my knowledge in store... they might give a loaner however.. at least i was told warranty replacements have to be shipped which they overnighted mine
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elliwigy said:
technically they wont do a warranty swap to my knowledge in store... they might give a loaner however.. at least i was told warranty replacements have to be shipped which they overnighted mine
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Yes, it has to be shipped, which is fine. I'm going on vacation for a week so I'll do it when I get back. Wonder how long it'll take this time for it to happen again. Funny, if the camera can still rotate without issue why can't they software fix every other app? I've also factory reset the phone to see if that would fix it, which it did not.
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Yes, it has to be shipped, which is fine. I'm going on vacation for a week so I'll do it when I get back. Wonder how long it'll take this time for it to happen again. Funny, if the camera can still rotate without issue why can't they software fix every other app? I've also factory reset the phone to see if that would fix it, which it did not.
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we have an s6 straight and capacitive buttons went out then we got a replacement and those buttons went out within 24hrs lol.. some phones are just bad in general so im in the same boat with that device.. will be the 3rd phone when i decide to call them again
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i have had this happen to me twice already, i got a new phone both times.
On my new phone now, working...for now. I don't have hopes of it staying that way, but would be nice. I liken this to the defect of the Samsung Moment with CDMA lockup. They got sued, put out a supposed "software" fix while it was hardware related. They suit claimed when CDMA lockup occurred and a reboot needed to take place, you couldn't call 911 and it did not function for emergencies. Samsung quickly put out a software update that "allowed 911 dialing during lockup conditions" which was not true, at all. Go look it all up. I avoided Samsung for a long time after that, this is giving me that same feeling again and it's just as sad because like the Moment, it's one of the best phones (if not the best) currently on the market.

OnePlus Customer Service/RMA

I would like to explain about a situation that I had to go through with OnePlus customer service.
I got my new OnePlus 7 Pro around 3pm today. I excitedly opened the box and turned the phone on. I looked it over and saw something on the back. "What is that?" I thought. Inspecting it closer, I saw a ripple in the plastic foil that adheres to the glass back and gives the shimmery look. It wasn't a huge deal, but still a flaw, and I should have a flawless phone after shelling out 750 dollars.
Ok, I'll contact support.
I called them and spoke with someone that I suspect was in China. She stated that she was sorry for the inconvenience, but I could submit an RMA. Since it was within the 15 days, I should get an email soon with the shipping label and info. The whole process could take a couple of weeks though....sucks but ok, I should get the flawless device I paid for.
About 2 hours later I got an email from Acer whom I guess handles OnePlus's returns. There was not a shipping label. I figured I would contact chat support, surely they just forgot to attach the label.
Well over 45 mins later, they finally decipher what I'm asking for and tell me that OnePlus isn't going to pay for shipping back to them. What? Surely a mistake, right? They delivered a flawed product.
I decided to call. I either got the same exact lady that I had earlier when I called, or they all use the same name, I dont know. Anyways, I explained the situation, and again she assured me that I would not have to pay shipping back to them. She asked me to wait on hold and she would see what the deal is. Welp, 20 mins later she comes back on and says "we are sorry sir but because there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable, you will have to pay for shipping back to us." Ok what the heck, this is about a phone lady, I again gave her my info and she apologized and asked me to wait on hold. Another 15 mins later and she came back on and said, and I quote "I am so sorry sir, but Acer will not pay for shipping back to their service center." I'm like what, I'm talking to OnePlus, this is a OnePlus phone, I want them to pay for shipping back since they delivered a flawed product. "I'm sorry sir, Acer is who handles the returns and they will not pay."
So I asked her to change my RMA to a return instead of exchange. I'll be footing the bill to send the phone back and will never consider another OnePlus product again.
I'm posting this for those on the fence. Just know that if you ever have problems their customer service is a joke. Thank God I was within the 15 day window. The main reason I asked for them to change to a return instead of exchange was the whole time I was thinking....I'm within the window of return and this is how they treat me? What if the ffc goes out? The screen? I dont want to go through it again. Hope this info helps out others. Im sorry I don't get to be a part of this community. I could tell it was going to be a good one. Take care.
JLine05 said:
I would like to explain about a situation that I had to go through with OnePlus customer service.
I got my new OnePlus 7 Pro around 3pm today. I excitedly opened the box and turned the phone on. I looked it over and saw something on the back. "What is that?" I thought. Inspecting it closer, I saw a ripple in the plastic foil that adheres to the glass back and gives the shimmery look. It wasn't a huge deal, but still a flaw, and I should have a flawless phone after shelling out 750 dollars.
Ok, I'll contact support.
I called them and spoke with someone that I suspect was in China. She stated that she was sorry for the inconvenience, but I could submit an RMA. Since it was within the 15 days, I should get an email soon with the shipping label and info. The whole process could take a couple of weeks though....sucks but ok, I should get the flawless device I paid for.
About 2 hours later I got an email from Acer whom I guess handles OnePlus's returns. There was not a shipping label. I figured I would contact chat support, surely they just forgot to attach the label.
Well over 45 mins later, they finally decipher what I'm asking for and tell me that OnePlus isn't going to pay for shipping back to them. What? Surely a mistake, right? They delivered a flawed product.
I decided to call. I either got the same exact lady that I had earlier when I called, or they all use the same name, I dont know. Anyways, I explained the situation, and again she assured me that I would not have to pay shipping back to them. She asked me to wait on hold and she would see what the deal is. Welp, 20 mins later she comes back on and says "we are sorry sir but because there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable, you will have to pay for shipping back to us." Ok what the heck, this is about a phone lady, I again gave her my info and she apologized and asked me to wait on hold. Another 15 mins later and she came back on and said, and I quote "I am so sorry sir, but Acer will not pay for shipping back to their service center." I'm like what, I'm talking to OnePlus, this is a OnePlus phone, I want them to pay for shipping back since they delivered a flawed product. "I'm sorry sir, Acer is who handles the returns and they will not pay."
So I asked her to change my RMA to a return instead of exchange. I'll be footing the bill to send the phone back and will never consider another OnePlus product again.
I'm posting this for those on the fence. Just know that if you ever have problems their customer service is a joke. Thank God I was within the 15 day window. The main reason I asked for them to change to a return instead of exchange was the whole time I was thinking....I'm within the window of return and this is how they treat me? What if the ffc goes out? The screen? I dont want to go through it again. Hope this info helps out others. Im sorry I don't get to be a part of this community. I could tell it was going to be a good one. Take care.
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Do you have any pics? I would also be ticked off.
I would be upset too, but Apple and Samsung are going to have the same customer service too.
OnePlus stopped paying for return shipping couple of years ago.. if you have paid with PayPal, going can claim the return shipping with PayPal...
insomnia77 said:
Do you have any pics? I would also be ticked off.
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Now that I've cooled off, I'm weighing keeping it. On one hand I'm scared of dealing with support if anything mechanically malfunctions with the phone. On the other hand, I've been using Samsung for 8 years straight, and I miss having root and flashing roms.
I'm going to leave the first post the same though, because I think the frustration is warranted and others may be interested to know what it's like dealing with them.
I attached a picture of the defect, its incredibly minor....I wasn't sure that I was even going to contact them in the first place. But I kept saying man, you paid 750 for a new phone it should be without flaws...
I don't know, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
Bradl79 said:
I would be upset too, but Apple and Samsung are going to have the same customer service too.
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Apple has stores you could take the phone and swap it, but I've never dealt with them.
I've dealt with Samsung for their appliances a few times and never had anything this bad. It's hard to even convey in writing how frustrating those several hours dealing with them were. That last call with the lady who mentioned the otg cable was maddening. That 45 minutes was seriously a total waste of time.
JLine05 said:
I would like to explain about a situation that I had to go through with OnePlus customer service.
I got my new OnePlus 7 Pro around 3pm today. I excitedly opened the box and turned the phone on. I looked it over and saw something on the back. "What is that?" I thought. Inspecting it closer, I saw a ripple in the plastic foil that adheres to the glass back and gives the shimmery look. It wasn't a huge deal, but still a flaw, and I should have a flawless phone after shelling out 750 dollars.
Ok, I'll contact support.
I called them and spoke with someone that I suspect was in China. She stated that she was sorry for the inconvenience, but I could submit an RMA. Since it was within the 15 days, I should get an email soon with the shipping label and info. The whole process could take a couple of weeks though....sucks but ok, I should get the flawless device I paid for.
About 2 hours later I got an email from Acer whom I guess handles OnePlus's returns. There was not a shipping label. I figured I would contact chat support, surely they just forgot to attach the label.
Well over 45 mins later, they finally decipher what I'm asking for and tell me that OnePlus isn't going to pay for shipping back to them. What? Surely a mistake, right? They delivered a flawed product.
I decided to call. I either got the same exact lady that I had earlier when I called, or they all use the same name, I dont know. Anyways, I explained the situation, and again she assured me that I would not have to pay shipping back to them. She asked me to wait on hold and she would see what the deal is. Welp, 20 mins later she comes back on and says "we are sorry sir but because there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable, you will have to pay for shipping back to us." Ok what the heck, this is about a phone lady, I again gave her my info and she apologized and asked me to wait on hold. Another 15 mins later and she came back on and said, and I quote "I am so sorry sir, but Acer will not pay for shipping back to their service center." I'm like what, I'm talking to OnePlus, this is a OnePlus phone, I want them to pay for shipping back since they delivered a flawed product. "I'm sorry sir, Acer is who handles the returns and they will not pay."
So I asked her to change my RMA to a return instead of exchange. I'll be footing the bill to send the phone back and will never consider another OnePlus product again.
I'm posting this for those on the fence. Just know that if you ever have problems their customer service is a joke. Thank God I was within the 15 day window. The main reason I asked for them to change to a return instead of exchange was the whole time I was thinking....I'm within the window of return and this is how they treat me? What if the ffc goes out? The screen? I dont want to go through it again. Hope this info helps out others. Im sorry I don't get to be a part of this community. I could tell it was going to be a good one. Take care.
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JLine05 said:
Now that I've cooled off, I'm weighing keeping it. On one hand I'm scared of dealing with support if anything mechanically malfunctions with the phone. On the other hand, I've been using Samsung for 8 years straight, and I miss having root and flashing roms.
I'm going to leave the first post the same though, because I think the frustration is warranted and others may be interested to know what it's like dealing with them.
I attached a picture of the defect, its incredibly minor....I wasn't sure that I was even going to contact them in the first place. But I kept saying man, you paid 750 for a new phone it should be without flaws...
I don't know, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
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I cant believe they dont pay return shipping for something that is clearly a defect. I've returned things to Samsung and given a return label hassle free.
Why did you phone, you should have used the site :
https://www.oneplus.com/uk/support/contact?from=foot
I'm pretty sure the chat agents are in OnePlus and would be much more accommodating.
The most recommended RMA process is to raise a support ticket, then make a post on the OnePlus forum and mention one of the mods who can have someone look at it for you, if it's especially egregious like this issue is then you should get a satisfactory outcome using that method.
Also the reason why buying it from a store is usually better, you can then just take it straight back to that store. Online sales are always inherently more difficult for support.
Hey, man. sorry about your experience. I'm the same way with regards to wanting a flawless device. If there isn't a restocking fee, i would just say to return and buy another one (if theyre unwilling to RMA). It's lame to have to pay return shipping, but this way you can at least save your "RMA karma" for if you really need it. Either way, if you're not happy with it, don't just settle...no pun intended lol
JLine05 said:
Now that I've cooled off, I'm weighing keeping it. On one hand I'm scared of dealing with support if anything mechanically malfunctions with the phone. On the other hand, I've been using Samsung for 8 years straight, and I miss having root and flashing roms.
I'm going to leave the first post the same though, because I think the frustration is warranted and others may be interested to know what it's like dealing with them.
I attached a picture of the defect, its incredibly minor....I wasn't sure that I was even going to contact them in the first place. But I kept saying man, you paid 750 for a new phone it should be without flaws...
I don't know, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
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djsubterrain said:
Why did you phone, you should have used the site :
https://www.oneplus.com/uk/support/contact?from=foot
I'm pretty sure the chat agents are in OnePlus and would be much more accommodating.
The most recommended RMA process is to raise a support ticket, then make a post on the OnePlus forum and mention one of the mods who can have someone look at it for you, if it's especially egregious like this issue is then you should get a satisfactory outcome using that method.
Also the reason why buying it from a store is usually better, you can then just take it straight back to that store. Online sales are always inherently more difficult for support.
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Using that link in USA redirects you to the site I used. Also, the reps I spoke with were OnePlus reps (though not very good ones).
And we cannot purchase from a store here unless we are Tmobile customers. Tmobile requires you to sign up for service if you buy the phone from them.
As far as the method you mentioned about visiting the forums, you may have a point there, but how is that to be known by a new customer? I think it's a good contribution for other users that may be looking this topic up later, so I appreciate it!
I am located in Germany so my experience would probably differ and I don't know what other options and resellers there are in the US.
However, I have ordered my phone to Amazon and there the shipping date is may 31st from the beginning. I know I will have to wait longer, but I just love their service. 30 day return period and I only have to deal with them once there is something wrong with the device. I have been reading horrible stories about oneplus customer support and your case would upset me as well. I honestly wouldn't keep it after spending that much money and send it back. (I will would still get a new one). Being forced to pay anything extra is outrages though.
Luckily, I never had to do any rma with my older oneplus phones yet and I am getting a new one every year. Still, I will stick with Amazon, just in case.
JLine05 said:
Using that link in USA redirects you to the site I used. Also, the reps I spoke with were OnePlus reps (though not very good ones).
And we cannot purchase from a store here unless we are Tmobile customers. Tmobile requires you to sign up for service if you buy the phone from them.
As far as the method you mentioned about visiting the forums, you may have a point there, but how is that to be known by a new customer? I think it's a good contribution for other users that may be looking this topic up later, so I appreciate it!
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No problem, hope you get a satisfactory outcome and sorry your first experience with OnePlus has been soured like this.
Thanks everyone. I've decided that I am going to send it back. I may buy another one, I haven't quite decided that yet. I wish Amazon US had it
Bradl79 said:
I would be upset too, but Apple and Samsung are going to have the same customer service too.
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I had a great experience with Samsung with my wife's phone. Phone was still under warranty and they took care of it right away. They paid shipping both ways and got the new phone in less than 8 days. I have not had any experience with OnePLus customer service but I am not surprised with the experience OP had. I have OP6 and thankfully it runs flawless. When I purchased OP6, it was at least $200 cheaper than comparable flagship phones from well-known manufacturers. In order to sell quality phones at a razor thin margins, usually they cut corners with customer service/after-sales service. I hope OP gets the refund in a timely fashion.
I was being sarcastic, With customer service it's all one of the same though, one person can have a great experience and others not so much like this poor fellow, I used to work for att customer relations and heard horror stories similar to this and some worse, also heard great things for both Samsung, crApple, LG and some not so good. It is really in all who u get, if ur not happy just hang up and move on, BC it could be that person's manager or team lead who does not want to do anything for anyone, there were some like me who would try to help as much as possible, again it comes down to the manager, team leader, call center manager or above. I hope u can get it resolved to ur satisfaction. Just RMA it
I'm in the UK, had to send back a OnePlus 5. Free shipping, got it back within 4 days. Think it went to the Czech Republic. Was about a year ago.
Sound awful your experience though

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