Hello, all! Just joined up to post a few questions. Every Android phone I have owned has been rooted and a custom ROM installed, so I am no stranger to all this. I'm finally getting around to replacing my ancient Motorola Triumph (Virgin Mobile USA) and for cost reasons I am seriously considering the Desire 510. I'd love to get the Desire 816 but that's out of my current price range Anyway, I have been reading the posts here and over at Android Forums dot com and I am confident that I will have no problems with the 510 should that be the phone I end up purchasing. But I've got several questions before I make a final decision.
1. Can anyone tell me (or how can I find out) if the 510 from Virgin Mobile USA is the 32-bit or 64-bit phone? I wasn't able to find much information except something online (unrelated to Virgin Mobile) that says the U.S. version is 32-bit while all other countries get the 64-bit. Since that information is now several months old can anyone confirm that it still holds true, or is there a possibility that 64-bit devices are now available in the U.S.?
2. If the Virgin Mobile USA version is indeed 32-bit, is there anywhere I can get a 32-bit ClockworkMod recovery? I see a post here for a 64-bit CWM but couldn't find mention of 32-bit anywhere. Nothing against TWRP, just that I have been using CWM since Day 1 of rooting and that's what I'm comfortable with. Also, before flashing a new recovery, how do I go about making a backup of the stock recovery.img? I imagine there's a way to rename it (i.e. recovery-stock.img) or copy it to my PC for safekeeping, but I'm not very familiar with Android SDK. (My current phone does not need SDK for anything. Simply plug in, copy new recovery where it needs to be, and reboot.)
3. What, exactly, is the write protection that I have seen mentioned all over the place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it *SOUNDS* like rooting and/or installing a custom recovery and/or installing a custom ROM essentially cuts off SD card access until a "fix" is applied. So if anyone can offer a simple explanation or a link to some information, that would be fantastic.
4. Taking #4 into mind, what do I need to consider in choosing a kernel? If it matters, I have been looking mainly at CurbThePain's RevMod, but also LarryBoyG's RaptorRom GPE v2 and shinru2004's Unofficial CM11.
I know that's a lot of questions all in one place but I figured I'd start somewhere. Any and all answers are appreciated, and any questions for me will be answered in as timely a manner as I can. Thanks in advance for any info you guys are able to provide me.
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5. Supposedly this phone has 8GB of internal memory but all the screenshots I see say it has 4GB, and most of that is taken up by the operating system. I was just reading the reviews on virginmobileusa.com and almost every single one of them is negative, focusing on the fact that nobody can download more than a few apps before the phone runs out of memory. What's the official internal storage for OS and apps, 4GB or 8GB, and how does the memory look after a custom ROM is installed?
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GKNByNW said:
Hello, all! Just joined up to post a few questions. Every Android phone I have owned has been rooted and a custom ROM installed, so I am no stranger to all this. I'm finally getting around to replacing my ancient Motorola Triumph (Virgin Mobile USA) and for cost reasons I am seriously considering the Desire 510. I'd love to get the Desire 816 but that's out of my current price range Anyway, I have been reading the posts here and over at Android Forums dot com and I am confident that I will have no problems with the 510 should that be the phone I end up purchasing. But I've got several questions before I make a final decision.
1. Can anyone tell me (or how can I find out) if the 510 from Virgin Mobile USA is the 32-bit or 64-bit phone? I wasn't able to find much information except something online (unrelated to Virgin Mobile) that says the U.S. version is 32-bit while all other countries get the 64-bit. Since that information is now several months old can anyone confirm that it still holds true, or is there a possibility that 64-bit devices are now available in the U.S.?
2. If the Virgin Mobile USA version is indeed 32-bit, is there anywhere I can get a 32-bit ClockworkMod recovery? I see a post here for a 64-bit CWM but couldn't find mention of 32-bit anywhere. Nothing against TWRP, just that I have been using CWM since Day 1 of rooting and that's what I'm comfortable with. Also, before flashing a new recovery, how do I go about making a backup of the stock recovery.img? I imagine there's a way to rename it (i.e. recovery-stock.img) or copy it to my PC for safekeeping, but I'm not very familiar with Android SDK. (My current phone does not need SDK for anything. Simply plug in, copy new recovery where it needs to be, and reboot.)
3. What, exactly, is the write protection that I have seen mentioned all over the place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it *SOUNDS* like rooting and/or installing a custom recovery and/or installing a custom ROM essentially cuts off SD card access until a "fix" is applied. So if anyone can offer a simple explanation or a link to some information, that would be fantastic.
4. Taking #4 into mind, what do I need to consider in choosing a kernel? If it matters, I have been looking mainly at CurbThePain's RevMod, but also LarryBoyG's RaptorRom GPE v2 and shinru2004's Unofficial CM11.
I know that's a lot of questions all in one place but I figured I'd start somewhere. Any and all answers are appreciated, and any questions for me will be answered in as timely a manner as I can. Thanks in advance for any info you guys are able to provide me.
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5. Supposedly this phone has 8GB of internal memory but all the screenshots I see say it has 4GB, and most of that is taken up by the operating system. I was just reading the reviews on virginmobileusa.com and almost every single one of them is negative, focusing on the fact that nobody can download more than a few apps before the phone runs out of memory. What's the official internal storage for OS and apps, 4GB or 8GB, and how does the memory look after a custom ROM is installed?
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Hello GKNByNW,
1. Only one person on here said they have a 64-bit model that they bought in the U.S. from Cricket. You can probably ask the salesperson when you purchase it, but I think it's highly likely that the device you are going to buy will be 32-bit.
2. I don't know of a CWM for the 32-bit model. I was the same way. CWM was the only recovery I was used to. The first time I used TWRP was with this phone. I think you should try TWRP. I like it a lot. I have never used CWM Touch, but I'm sure TWRP may be like that. It is very user friendly. I don't know how you would go about making a backup of your stock recovery, but you should be able to use this one. It works great for my Boost phone. You may need to get familiar with adb and fastboot if you are not already. I don't know if we can just copy the recovery to where it needs to be, but most of us have been fastboot flashing it.
3. Write protection was included with Android KitKat. It has nothing to do with modding the phone. Google restricted some access to the sdcard, I believe for security reasons. When you flash a write-protect removed kernel, you can delete system apps, make changes to build.prop and make other changes. If you do not have a write-protect removed kernel, you can delete system apps, but when you restart the phone, they will return. You can also make changes to build.prop but when you restart they will not stick. I'm not sure of all of the things that will not stick if you have the stock kernel but those are a couple. Here is some more information: http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes and https://source.android.com/devices/storage/index.html.
4. There are currently 2 kernels that most people use: Modded Desire 510 Kernel v2.6.1, which is tuned more for stability and Rhinstone-kernel, which is tuned more for performance. I haven't tried RevKernel and it hasn't been updated in a while, but you can check it out. Definitely check out the ROMs we have available and read through some threads to see which you like best.
5. The phone has 8GB internal, but we can only use ~1GB in the /data partition. I guess ~5GB is used for Android and Sense, since ~2GB is used for the /system partition. Check out this Storage Truth: https://goo.gl/photos/tCD1P26QTXM7my2r7
It's kind of weird, but this is the Storage Truth from my wife's phone, which has never been modded, and she has Cricket:
https://goo.gl/photos/uijoVA8Bk8tCtwe3A
She can still only use ~1GB, but I wonder why it shows ~4GB for the /data partition and only ~1GB for me.
After app updates and after you download a couple of apps the storage gets full, quick. The custom ROMS free up a lot of space. On a Jelly Bean based phone I had, without the sdcard restriction, I was able to integrate pretty much all of my apps on /system and have tons of room left over in /data. So I had so much space for apps and that phone didn't have as much "space" as this one has. On this one we're not so lucky. If you integrate the Google Play Store, Google Play Services, and the Gallery you will get force closes. There are more apps that will cause force closes if you integrate and delete them, but those are the main ones. You can delete the lockscreen with no issues, if you prefer the AOSP one. You can use Aparted and Link2SD to free up space. This method will allow you to download apps to your heart's content. Check out this thread to find out how to do that.
honestly,id skip the 510 and go for the 816 any day of the week. even if its more expensive,if i would have checked this thing out before i bought it after breaking my moto g,i would have bought a new moto (cricket dosent carry the 816)
blaqueknight said:
Hello GKNByNW,
1. Only one person on here said they have a 64-bit model that they bought in the U.S. from Cricket. You can probably ask the salesperson when you purchase it, but I think it's highly likely that the device you are going to buy will be 32-bit.
2. I don't know of a CWM for the 32-bit model. I was the same way. CWM was the only recovery I was used to. The first time I used TWRP was with this phone. I think you should try TWRP. I like it a lot. I have never used CWM Touch, but I'm sure TWRP may be like that. It is very user friendly. I don't know how you would go about making a backup of your stock recovery, but you should be able to use this one. It works great for my Boost phone. You may need to get familiar with adb and fastboot if you are not already. I don't know if we can just copy the recovery to where it needs to be, but most of us have been fastboot flashing it.
3. Write protection was included with Android KitKat. It has nothing to do with modding the phone. Google restricted some access to the sdcard, I believe for security reasons. When you flash a write-protect removed kernel, you can delete system apps, make changes to build.prop and make other changes. If you do not have a write-protect removed kernel, you can delete system apps, but when you restart the phone, they will return. You can also make changes to build.prop but when you restart they will not stick. I'm not sure of all of the things that will not stick if you have the stock kernel but those are a couple. Here is some more information: http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes and https://source.android.com/devices/storage/index.html.
4. There are currently 2 kernels that most people use: Modded Desire 510 Kernel v2.6.1, which is tuned more for stability and Rhinstone-kernel, which is tuned more for performance. I haven't tried RevKernel and it hasn't been updated in a while, but you can check it out. Definitely check out the ROMs we have available and read through some threads to see which you like best.
5. The phone has 8GB internal, but we can only use ~1GB in the /data partition. I guess ~5GB is used for Android and Sense, since ~2GB is used for the /system partition. Check out this Storage Truth: https://goo.gl/photos/tCD1P26QTXM7my2r7
It's kind of weird, but this is the Storage Truth from my wife's phone, which has never been modded, and she has Cricket:
https://goo.gl/photos/uijoVA8Bk8tCtwe3A
She can still only use ~1GB, but I wonder why it shows ~4GB for the /data partition and only ~1GB for me.
After app updates and after you download a couple of apps the storage gets full, quick. The custom ROMS free up a lot of space. On a Jelly Bean based phone I had, without the sdcard restriction, I was able to integrate pretty much all of my apps on /system and have tons of room left over in /data. So I had so much space for apps and that phone didn't have as much "space" as this one has. On this one we're not so lucky. If you integrate the Google Play Store, Google Play Services, and the Gallery you will get force closes. There are more apps that will cause force closes if you integrate and delete them, but those are the main ones. You can delete the lockscreen with no issues, if you prefer the AOSP one. You can use Aparted and Link2SD to free up space. This method will allow you to download apps to your heart's content. Check out this thread to find out how to do that.
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pattyboi:) said:
honestly,id skip the 510 and go for the 816 any day of the week. even if its more expensive,if i would have checked this thing out before i bought it after breaking my moto g,i would have bought a new moto (cricket dosent carry the 816)
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I'm sorry for taking so long to get back and respond. Anyway... Yes, pattyboi, I am in total agreement. After reading reviews on Virgin Mobile USA's website and Amazon, I am definitely NOT going for this phone. Virgin no longer carries the 816 though it is still available new through retailers on Amazon, but the $180 price tag is a bit more than I want to spend on a phone right now. The other phone I had considered was the Samsung Galaxy Core Prime but it looks like that is only available for their Data Done Right plans, unless I am misunderstanding something. I don't really get what the whole Data Done Right thing is. It looks to be cheaper than my current plan ($45/mo. for unlimited talk/talk/1GB data) but I think Data Done Right is only for multiple lines. Also, I looked up the Galaxy Core Prime a couple weeks ago and it doesn't look like there's much information yet in regards to rooting and custom ROMs for that particular phone, so I might want to wait a while.
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n00b, but not an idiot here. been playing with handhelds for many years, new to android though.
I've been watching this forum (CDMA Hero sect.) since I got my Hero, been learning quite a bit. Held off on rooting until there was a official 2.1 release for the device that a ROM could be built around (I wanted full function of the phone and software), did the stupid thing of running the RUU (leaked official), and had to wait until Regaw (thanx!) gave us root...
It would seem the tone of this forum has changed fundamentally since the release of the EVO and an official 2.1 for our Heros. I can understand that perhaps the "thrill" is gone, and since we can all get 2.1 now without rooting, I guess it's "why bother"? (see questions below)
Aaaaanyway...
just did my first root, my first nandroid BU, my first rom flash (hated the rom), and then my first nandroid recover ;-) (what an amazing function, what a relief!) About to try out a 2nd ROM, see if I like it better...
(as an aside to the point of this post, the ROM i tried was DamageR, found it too "messy" for my tastes, and while I can appreciate the work put into it, the options it offers... not my style. was thinking on Damageless, waiting for a "rerelease" of his final. Or perhaps the Aloysius...)
Now that I have my caveats and excuses out of the way, I had a few n00b questions?
1) while I think I have figured out what JIT is, why is it "enabled" in many new ROMs? Is it not an included part of Sense 2.1 from HTC on the Hero?
2) When I was wiping before flash, I was unable to wipe davlik (sp?), insisted I had to do through adb. Is this "normal"?
3) could someone explain what "push" an APK is? Since I have rooted, will I be unable to use the application installer in the HTCsync? (haven't actually tried yet...) And how to "flash" a file? (Example: Dammageless' LWP fix...) I am sure it's something very simple that I am just not getting dues to being unfamiliar with the jargon here.
4) I would really like to use the A2SD feature, and in the recovery screen (where one does the nandroid BUs) it gives me the option to create partitions. I was of course clever enough to BU all data on the card before doing Anything re: root/flashing/etc, but I would like to know if this was needed? Will it just use empty space already present on the card? And in general, I would love to know what I am doing re: A2SD in general, I know "search is my friend", but would someone point me to a quick and succinct link to the "instructions" of doing this? And the different kinds of partitions (ext2? ext3?ext4? huh? why?) I need to know about?
5) And, so why bother rooting now? I know this sounds like a dense question, but really since I don't know enough about it, I guess I am looking for a list of "the obvious reasons" that would not occur to me, or other Android nooblets. LWP will be nice i guess, other launchers, A2SD, bootscreens, OCing... what else?
5) Personally, I am hoping people will rise to the Froyo challenge. While being ignorant of most things involving "programing", or compiling (cooking?), my understanding is that 2.2 runs several times faster due to (a new?) JIT (admitted ignorance again), so does this mean "more efficient"? Would something like a Hero be able to take advantage of that? I realize that we (due to CPU) will never have the highend features (OpenGL, gaming, LWPs being sluggish), so please correct me if I am grossly missing something, besides it not being written for this HW, I see that many other versions written for other devices have been ported to this device.... is this being actively worked on, seen a worthy challenge? Or even a possible one? One that has any benefits?
7) And the n00best question of them all: ROM suggestions? I happen to like Sense, or thought I did because of the 7 screens and other neato features in the UI, but it seems from further reading I can get most features and function out of just about any of them... As an example, what will I gain from flashing Damageless as opposed to the stock RUU? (While Damageless' ROM seems to be the most popular, it is also the least described in his post re: features added/removed, and it's benifits. It would seem like his ROM was "da bomb" when we didnt have 2.1 officially, but since we do now... do I bother with his? Or move to something "more exciting"?
Thank you for your patience.
/n00b-rant
1) JIT just speeds up the phone a bit, although, it's incompatible with Sense :\
2) Don't worry about the dalvik cache unless you're getting problems with booting up a new ROM
3) Push = copying a file to the device (usually when you're putting an .apk in the /system/app/ directory) And about HTCsync? I've never used it before, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try.
4) A2SD? I suggest you back up the files on your sd card before trying anything with it, also, make sure it's a fast card.
5) Rooting? To get rid of annoying sprint bloatware, overclocking, Wi-Fi Tether, etc.
5b) It'll be a little while before we get a stable FroYo (when they release the source, the work will begin)
7) I was about to suggest DarchDroid, but seeing as you like sense.....
(although, 7 homescreens? That's available in just about every homescreen app on the market, my favorite being LauncherPro Beta)
1. The JIT leak we have is buggy at best, and Force close city at worst, but is supposed to be fully featured in 2.2
2. What version of recovery are you running?
3. You can still use the HTCSync installer, but to push system files, you need to use ADB (Google "Android SDK"). You flash a file the same way you flash a ROM, always nandroid backup.
4. A2SD is only really helpful if you have a Class 6 SDcard, and can be hurtful otherwise. A2SD requires a portion of the SDCard to be formated as EXT, so say you have a 1GB SDcard.
256MB EXT (Space for apps)
0MB Swap (basically, "RAM" on your SDCard)
The rest as FAT. In a file manager and you phone, your SDcard will only appear to be ~760MB, as 256 is taken up by EXT.
5. Being able to completly customize everything, getting day by day support to fix bugs instead of waiting on Sprint/HTC, Basically, rooting is what makes your phone YOUR phone.
6. 2.2 is currently available in a very basic install, and will be developed further when the source code is released. Yes, the new JIT is supposedly 450% faster, by being more efficient with how it handles everything, and theorhetically with it, we can expect to see performance increases in everything.
7. I'm a personal fan of DarchDroid, it lacks Sense but he's incorporating ADWLauncher into his next release (Google it, it's amazing.) Damageless is also no longer developing his ROM as the Evo is out. Same thing with Flipz.
Anything else?
Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.
great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).
I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.
These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)
Looks great, thanks for the hard work
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
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I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin
dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
PAulyhoffman said:
32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night
Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)
I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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Dvarl said:
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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I tried both of those links before I posted this. All download buttons on those pages led to spam ads. Seems every comment on those pages is how do I download - and then a mysterious thanks as if the answer was revealed and then deleted. At one point I got a link on that page to go to a page that said no file found - missing or deleted. Just tried again and found one download button that actually worked.
The system memory on my Exhibit 4G is just about full and there is 1.07 GB of system memory. The internal USB/SD memory is almost empty as is my external SD card. What I need to do is free up internal memory - and deleting apps that will not install to Internal USB/SD memory that I don't use has freed up a small amount of that system memory. But there are some apps that will not install to internal SD and insist on sitting in system memory. And then there are the screen after screen of apps that Samsung shoved on this phone that keep updating constantly and 80% of those apps I have never used. So researching this the recommendation always seems to be root and dump the bloatware - and have the ability to swap External SD for Internal SD. So I am looking to root. I have found Clockworkmod on some other site and just got the stock-rom.zip.
Thanks for responding - hopefully if I do this it I won't get notices to delete apps or the phone will cease this function and that function.
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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Dvarl said:
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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how do i "flash root"? sorry im new =)
Instructions are in first post of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686384
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1776 said:
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
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rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
kfs325 said:
rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
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What ROM did you end up using?
Raschal said:
What ROM did you end up using?
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The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
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The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
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Thanks for the info. I have used Peach Sunrise for sometime. It is very stable.
Towel root?
1776 said:
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
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Have you ever heard of towelroot? there is a website called towelroot.com, and i am not sure whether it still works, but you should try anyway. You click the lambda and it will download an app. You then install it and click the make it rain button, and you should be root. After that, download Supersu, and root checker. You should then be able to clear bloatware with a root browser.
I have one of the Virgin Mobile models that has the smaller memory. I have been looking through these forums looking for a way to clear up the memory. It looks like there is simply not enough progress on this phone currently. What I would really like is a basic ROM replacement that does not have any of the HTC crap in it to make it leaner and use less space. Am I right that I need to wait for future developments? I just want to make sure I am not missing something. Is there any way to free up more space right now with existing hacks? I see lots of different posts in here, and when I think I am on to something, I read that it does not work on the Virgin Mobile phones, so I am getting confused. I was hoping somebody who knows my phone really well could hold my hand and tell me exactly what I can do to get some more free space. I am familiar with a lot of the tools, and have rooted and installed recovery on my Kindle Fire, and on my Ouya. I have rooted an old LG phone, but that was cake compared to what I am reading for this phone! Thank you!
Probably the best you can do for now would be to flash a write protection removed kernel, remove as much uneccessary HTC and carrier bloat as possible, and then use an app from the Play Store called System App Manager to turn most of the apps you install into system apps, thereby using unused space on /system instead of your internal storage. My advice is to make a TWRP backup before converting any apps, because some apps will not act right after being moved to /system, so just do a process of elimination/trial & error until you figure out which apps can be moved without causing problems. When you figure out which apps act up, restore your backup and re-do the process without converting the unruly apps.
You also might want to flash Raptor Rom, as it's probably the smallest rom available, leaving tbe most empty space for those apps you move. Someday we'll get a rom/kernel that will allow the moving of apps & thier data to an sd partition, till then this is probly your best bet.
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huggs said:
Probably the best you can do for now would be to flash a write protection removed kernel....You also might want to flash Raptor Rom, as it's probably the smallest rom available
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Great! Can anybody point me in the right direction for some good/updated directions on performing each of these? Thank you!
jrburke99 said:
Great! Can anybody point me in the right direction for some good/updated directions on performing each of these? Thank you!
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Firstly, if you haven't done so already: Follow this
Then go grab the download from whatever kernel you want to use thread or grab RaptorROM here. RaptorROM already includes a version of @Pattyboi's kernel, but you can always flash the newer kernel (which he put up last night?) on top.
Drop whatever files you plan on flashing onto the phone, or the sdcard. Reboot into TWRP (volume down and power button when phone's off then select Recovery), tap install, find the .zip or .img to flash, tap, then Swipe to Install/Flash
Hi everybody,
hopefully someone here can answer a few questions for me.
I have a Samsung Galaxy 3 mini.
android version 4.4.2
kernel version 3.4.0-1670137
baseband version g730aucubng4
my service provider is AT&T
what I want to do is pretty simple, or so I thought.
I read this article ( https://www.androidpit.com/galaxy-s3-note2-memory-bump) about swapping your phone's internal and external storage so the thing doesn't get so full of apps etc. it runs like crap.
I thought "hey, I haven't rooted my phone yet for fear of loosing stuff, but it's old and slow and if it's that easy, why not"
I rooted it using kingo-root, but decided to use o-nandroid backup to create a backup before I did anything. I fallowed these instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255/) but during the process of flashing the zip file I got a failure message and managed to wipe my memory loosing everything that wasn't on the external sd card.
anyway, to make a long story short, after 4 days of messing with different apps and trying, unsuccessfully, to do various tasks (mainly dealing with creating backups. using twrp, cwm, titanium backup) I think I've discovered the problem.
contrary to what I had read, my android device's boot-loader was not unlocked, or in fact unlockable.
I finally managed to create a backup using Safestrap. but now to my question.
with my bootloader locked, and working through Safestrap, is it possible to use something like the 11extsd2internalsd file from that first article to swap my two hard drives? or am I stuck, since I can't install new kirnels?
--now, someone is bound to say "hey, you should have searched xyz, there is a thread there about this exact thing". I thought I'd respond to that now and save them the trouble. I have spent the past 5 hours searching, googleing, and reading articles about this. so far, I have learned a lot, but I'm tired and quite frustrated with the whole endeavor.
so I thought I would try asking the experts if it's even possible to do what I originally wanted to do, or if I should just delete all these apps, unroot my phone and go back to deleting my pictures and text messages every other day to save space.
Thanks for having the patiance to read through my tale of woes, hopefully someone will be able to help me out and answer my question.
JM
You can swap internal storage with external SD by editing fstab.<device_name>.
Look, here is this file for my phone (yours will be little different) https://github.com/TeamCanjica/andr...dina/blob/cm-11.0/rootdir/fstab.samsungcodina
Just swap in places this code "voldmanaged=sdcard0"/"voldmanaged=sdcard1"
This file you can edit only after unpacking and repacking boot.img (you need to get ramdisk filesystem, more info and how to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036528).
For flashing boot.img (kernel) after making changes, your device must be rooted (minimum this) or have custom recovery which will let you flash zip package.
As I know, last step is to edit from /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml one line (more info http://trendblog.net/fix-kitkat-sd-card-write-restriction/ )