Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.
great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).
I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.
These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)
Looks great, thanks for the hard work
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
Djazin said:
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin
dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
n1ckr0th said:
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
PAulyhoffman said:
32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night
Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)
I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.
Related
I'm no longer keeping up with NAND on the vogue. So if anyone would like to keep me informed and email me or post me on any changes with NAND, ill be happy to add the news on the first post. The lock up issue with NAND has been fixed!
This is simply for any noobs or others who are having issues with Android and NAND.
IMPORTANT!!!
FOR VOGUE USERS ONLY
I am not responsible for any bricked or messed up devices. By continuing you are agreeing to my simple rule.
MY SIMPLE RULE: I owe you nothing.
I will help you through the way though if you bricked or need any sort of help.
How-to Video up NOW!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTkJkOc7m4
First off, What is NAND?
To keep it simple...its your phones internal memory. Up untill recently we (Vogue Users) had to run Android off our SD cards using HARET. But thats another story.
What are the benefits of running from NAND? (based on what I have seen)
-Runs faster
-Longer Battery life
-faster boot up
-can be faster to put together.
-Easier to connect your vogue with android to your pc and sync
-Much more convenient.
So how do I start?
STEP1:
The Build
First you need to find a Build that is usable with NAND. Most Hero builds at this moment are not. Here are some links:
Donut 1.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
Hero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028
Cupcake 1.5
Method 1 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING JUST YET! I WILL TELL YOU WHEN A GOOD TIME WOULD BE
You may want to consider reading the rest...
STEP2:
Base Files (Most builds will supply these)
For all builds (Except the Link in Cupcake "instructions are givin in the download.) you will need a basic set of base files. The link below contains the 3 basic empty files for all builds and Systems.
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/Androidstuff.rar
IF
You are using Hero make sure you download hero.user.conf too:
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/hero.user.conf
-create a new folder called conf
-and place hero.user.conf in your new folder.
STEP3:
Rootfs
After you have the Base files you will need a rootfs. Depending on your Build, you may need a different type then the one I am going to supply you. Most builds will supply you with one. This one is DZO's rootfs.
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/rootfs.img
STEP4:
Prepare
-You need to clean out your storage on your SD. Make sure you delete everything.
-Create a file called android on your desktop.
-Download the base files, unzip, open folder, and place all 3 in your android folder
-Download the rootfs and place them in your android folder. Make sure you either download DZO's or the one your Build provides.
-Download a System.img. When you download a System most likely it will have a different name such as system-hero-123.img. You need to rename it system. So it should look like system.img . Then place it in your android folder.
-If you are using Hero place your conf folder in your android folder.
-Depending on your Build (mostly Hero) you may also need a Data file. The build you select should supply one. Download it and place it in your Android Folder
STEP5
Placing
Open up your android folder of all your collected files and select all, copy, and paste into your empty SD card.
STEP6
Unlocking
If you have never flashed a ROM before than you don't have HardSPL installed. So unlock your phone with...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
Make sure you follow the forums directions.
STEP7
Method
Method1: The way I do it.
Download ROMUpdateUtility.rar
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/ROMUpdateUtility.rar
Extract to a newfolder
Download a kernel with your screen size
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
Don't know your screen size...check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544906
After you have have gotten the kernel:
rename it to RUU_signed and place it in the ROMUpdateUtility folder you created.
NOW you need to plug your phone into your computer. Establish active sync. And run ROMUpdateUtility.
-Follow the Instructions on the screen.
Method 2 and 3 can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
This also shows my method...but a little less detail. You can also find many other helpful things there.
If you fail OR think your bricked your phone.
You will need to download one of these depending on your carrier...Make sure you download the shipped gps rom. (If you are Verizon skip down)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=191607
Than you will put your phone in boot mode. Hold the Camera and Power button. While holding both of them...get a pen or something small and hit the little restart button on the bottom of your phone. You may have to hold it for like a second.
-you will see three color bars on your phone
-plug your phone into your computer
-run the backup
After your phone is all back to normal. Make sure you run internet explore on your phone. It will enable you to get data.
For Verizon follow the instructions here.
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
That is about it. I'm sure I forgot some stuff and will add on to this. Make sure you donate to the Devs for all their hard work.
DZO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
jamezelle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028
plemen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
vilord
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523692
They deserve it.
thank you this was very helpful
inphin1ty said:
thank you this was very helpful
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No problem...
yea here is the md5sum: 9b08971e7f23619b6a9a4db9d52d857a
jamezelle said:
yea here is the md5sum: 9b08971e7f23619b6a9a4db9d52d857a
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Whats that?
staud8469 said:
What are the benefits of running from NAND? (based on what I have seen)
1 Runs faster
2 Longer Battery life
3 faster boot up
4 can be faster to put together.
5 Easier to connect your vogue with android to your pc and sync
6 Much more convenient.
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great thread. I've run both from nand and sdcard. i have not messed with ext2 on the sdcard.
I agree with 3 for sure. I would also add that there is a deep gratification in wiping win mo off the sdcard
6 is debatable, depends on which conveniences you want. changing lcd.density, changing resolution are all much faster running from the sdcard - no flashing or messing with build.prop, just edit default.txt and reboot (aside - if you have a non-sdhc card you can flash on the fly from the sdcard, but changing lcd.density still requires pulling and pushing files from the system, which is not as easy as changing the default.txt). also more convenient to back-up or revert to a data.img when running from sdcard. definitely booting straight into android is convenient, as is the new mass storage on boot method, as well as having a re-writable system (which you also have using ext2).
1 and 2, I honestly have not noted a significant difference in battery life. With a fast sdcard, I don't think there is a significant difference in speed either - dzo has said this in one of the non-vogue forums as well. i have not tried any sense builds from the sdcard though, and that's where you would notice the greatest difference in speed if there is any.
4 I agree with in general.
I think running from the nand is a huge advance, and great for everyone to try. but, running from the sdcard is still a decent way to use android. choosing between the two comes down to choosing which conveniences suit your usage style the most.
One last thing - please add vilord to your donate links (his google ion on vogue thread), he has been instrumental in developing the ril and advancing android on the vogue. srwalter also deserves mention for his reverse engineering of the libgps.so to bring gps first to cupcake and now to donut as well. jamezelle, plemen, mssmison, zenulator, enatefox, f00bar (no specific order) have all worked hard porting roms and working on things like compcache, swap, modem, etc, which has all been invaluable (zenulator and mssmison deserve special credit for spearheading the porting business). however the gruntwork of porting to the vogue has been done mainly by dzo who brought us the kernel and initial ril and now nand (he's just frickin amazing, he singlehandedly got the first functioning port to the vogue and others helped from there), then vilord who took the ril and really refined it. I guess suffice to say, there have been a lot of people involved along the way, thanks to all of them.
when i try to run android from both nand and haret i always get an error about not being able to mount sd card. does this mean i need to reformat the card? if so how do i do this?
Barogi44 said:
when i try to run android from both nand and haret i always get an error about not being able to mount sd card. does this mean i need to reformat the card? if so how do i do this?
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When do you get this error? During linux kernel bootup?
Verizon users.
I just update a fix for Verizon users. Shows you how to get GPS too!
Also...there will be a video up soon. It seems that there are so many people having issues. So I will create a video from start to finish. Will be posted up late tonight/ tomorrow morning.
staud8469 said:
When do you get this error? During linux kernel bootup?
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Yea.. i think i may need a new sd card. Can android boot from a 4gb card or is 2 the max?
Barogi44 said:
Yea.. i think i may need a new sd card. Can android boot from a 4gb card or is 2 the max?
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i running with a 8gig PNY sdcard
it could theoretically run off of a 512, but you would be a little cramped on space
i guess android doesnt like some of them
so really it doesn't matter how big the card is? do they all have to be formatted to fat32?
Barogi44 said:
so really it doesn't matter how big the card is? do they all have to be formatted to fat32?
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short answer, yes.
Hey guys...I will try my best to get that video up today. I am about to start recording it.
Am I correct in assuming that step 4-b is create a FOLDER name android on the desktop?
Can I delete those files from the SD when flashing is done?
THANK YOU for the N00B instruction, works great.
stopthebus said:
Am I correct in assuming that step 4-b is create a FOLDER name android on the desktop?
Can I delete those files from the SD when flashing is done?
THANK YOU for the N00B instruction, works great.
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Yes that is correct, as for deleting the files...I would assume you could. But im not sure. Maybe they are still needed on boot. Never hurts to try though.
im not getting access to the internet after i flashed, am i suppose to edit anything?
im running the donut flash on my sprint vogue.
gigermunit said:
im not getting access to the internet after i flashed, am i suppose to edit anything?
im running the donut flash on my sprint vogue.
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Wait...NVM you want data to work right?
If you are using donut...try to restart your phone one time. After it boots back up you should see a 3g symbol appear on the notification bar.
If that does not work...go to your apps and open modem. Click once on disconnect and then once more. Then click connect.
Tell me if that works...
Huge thanks to Hashcode for all his hard work thus far, what with the totally ingenious Safestrap and his latest victories with CM9. I hope this helps somebody out and that at least *someone* out there thinks this is as cool as I do.
Pushing OK+Backspace will force the console to kick you out back into the recovery, in case you get stuck. Keep in mind that the console is pretty powerful but also really dangerous if you don't know exactly what you're doing. Although, you'll never learn how to do anything awesome unless you get your hands dirty.
The Microphone button is now ESC, command history works, tab-autocompletion works via either the hardware Tab key or by pushing OK+i, and you can scroll back up through the text one line at at time with Alt+Up or Alt+Down or in chunks of 8 lines with Shift+Up and Shift+Down. Home is the home softkey, or the Search button on the keyboard, and End is the Power button. You could also push OK+A or OK+E for Home and End, respectively.
Make sure you uninstall Safestrap and then remove the application before you install this one. I just jacked Hashcode's .apk and stuffed my new binaries inside the .zips, if you don't want to bother with uninstalling and reinstalling the .apk, you can extract the recovery.zip and 2nd-init.zip from the archive and push them both to /system/etc/safestrap and reboot. Enjoy.
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EDIT: I finally got my act together and put my modified sources on github:
http://github.com/buddyrich/android_bootable_recovery
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EDIT: Just finished up my latest update to this branch of Hashcode/Koush's work. Added:
-Use numbers on the hardware keyboard to select menu entries. Got really tired of scrolling around and thought this would make things a bit quicker.
-Scrolling/repeating keys. Holding in for longer than about half a second will repeat even faster now, similar to a real terminal on a PC for instance.
-vim statically compiled to avoid the need for any external libs (ie: having /system or /systemorig mounted). Full color support and syntax is working great now; the only thing missing is background colors, which will be tricky to implement.
-a $HOME directory is now made at /emmc/safestrap/home. This is set up when the .apk is installed; it isn't necessary so it can be deleted if you want, but it is required if you want to have a persistent command history in bash as well as the ability to customize your .bashrc and .vimrc files. Most of you won't really know what this means, but if you do you'll probably appreciate it.
-Revamped all the menus and made everything look a little cooler. Let me know what you guys think! I got rid of the highlighting box that shows which menu entry is currently selected and changed it to simply highlight the text in white to distinguish from the green/yellow menus; I think it's a little easier on the eyes but some feedback would be cool. It wouldn't be very hard to allow the users to customize the menu colours themselves via external files placed on the sdcard/through a menu option.
-Fixed the issue some people were having with restoring to /systemorig; there aren't any more issues mounting/unmounting /systemorig or /system during a restore
-Probably many more things I've forgotten
-.bashrc tweaks, fixed a few aliases, nothing major
-You can flash updates from either safe or non-safe mode now, look in the advanced menu. Really though, be careful and remember to make backups of your /systemorig partitions. Don't say I didn't warn you! Guaranteed, someone out there will complain that they broke their phone so I was pretty hesitant to let that out in the wild, but I know I've found myself in the situation where I could've used it so there you have it.
Let me know if anyone finds any issues, I've done a pretty thorough job testing this over the last few weeks but there's always something to be missed. The new .apk is over the size limit to be posted in the forum due to the new bash and vim binaries and the vim runtime files, so you can download the new version from my dropbox here:
Safestrap (Tweaked) v1.08e for Droid 3
http://db.tt/CArenxr7
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Just finished thoroughly testing my latest release and think it's ready for human consumption! Another batch of sweet additions:
1) Proper implementation of /systemorig flashing while in non-safe mode... without any modifications needed to the updater-script present in any flashable zip. Even if the updater-script inside the. zip file you are flashing targets "/system", if you confirm it about three times in non-safe mode it will know to copy the files onto /systemorig to replace your stock system.
You can install Gingerbread-based ROMs such as MavROM 3.5 to the stock /system partition while in non-safe mode via the Advanced menu. Safestrap will backup and afterwards restore it's own files needed to ensure you can still get back in after a flash of the /systemorig partition. Note that flashing your original /system partition with an ICS ROM won't work yet because they need custom init.*.rc scripts in place during the 2nd-init process; this isn't hard to do but I was getting anxious to get something out so it'll have to wait until next time.
2) Redesign of the layout for the menus, much more organized
/* 3) Allow for rebooting directly into the recovery, either via the shell command "reboot recovery" or through the Reboot Menu */
// EDIT: Seemed to be causing some users to persistently boot straight into the recovery so on the backburner for now
4) Allow for custom colors for either safe or non-safe mode; to change the colors for now you have to execute a few little shell commands. Here's an example to change safe mode colors to a blue-grey and then non-safe mode colors to maroon:
Code:
s_rgb 139 137 137
ns_rgb 127 34 10
cc
Basically, "s_rgb" sets the colors for safe-mode and the three arguments (139 137 137 in the above example) are the codes for the red, green and blue components of the end result; you can look up rgb color codes for your own custom colors. "ns_rgb" is the command for non-safe colors. "cc" just tells the recovery to update the colors to whatever they've been changed to. If you don't like what you've done and just want to revert back to the stock ones, you can just wipe your /cache partition and they'll go back to normal.
Eventually I thought it'd be cool to be able to do this via the recovery UI but I haven't been able to envision how it would work yet.
5) Added background colors/highlighting in the console now, makes vim look a lot prettier. If there's anyone out there who cares, I preinstalled a few plugins (MiniBufExplorer, MRU (most recently used files), bash-style path completion, etc.)
Also, changed the cursor from the big ol' ugly white block to an easier-on-the-eyes one-character underline.
Yeah, it's overboard.
6) Much faster backups and somewhat quicker restores now. I clocked full backups (including /systemorig and ~350mb /data partition) at around 2 mins and full restores at around 7 minutes. Also fixed up the progress bars so they give a more accurate representation of how much longer the backup/restore will be.
7) Moved $HOME and other misc. Safestrap files to /cache instead of the /sdcard
8) Probably half a dozen other OCD details that I've already forgotten.
Test it out and let me know what you guys think!
As always, sources are posted on my github:
https://github.com/buddyrich/android_bootable_recovery
You can get the new .apk here:
Safestrap (Tweaked) 1.08f for Droid 3
http://db.tt/u4vAwv2u
i need this about 6 hrs ago lol.
Quite useful mate cheers.
=smc
Thank you so much for sharing this file. Your work is greatly appreciated.
This is a nice little(big)addition to safestrap! Thanks for adding it in!
I can't think of any better use for Christmas Eve than coding a bash console into recovery! Merry Christmas to the D3! Thank You!
Sounds good. I haven't grabbed it yet (as I need to keep my own customised Safestrap for ME863 nandroid support) but one thing I'd note is that the "OK" button (i.e. trackball click) is used for "Control" in Console+, and the console in Amon_RA's HTC Dream recovery. That saves you losing the @^ key.
Edit: Also: Source? Sounds like something that could be pushed upstream. I always found the console in Amon_RA's recovery very useful, missed it on my current device, when I didn't have a computer with ADB handy.
TBBIe,
I have an XT860, so I'm curious to see if this would work on your ME863. I remember seeing a post of yours a few months ago mentioning issues with the preinstall and data partitions (I think it seemed that the data partition was extended into the first bytes of the preinstall partition, rendering it unmountable during init) that should also have affected the XT860, but I have never experienced any issues with the partitions since Hashcode released v1.06.
I'll commit my sources to github shortly so you have take a look.
I am trying to get through the preinstall problem myself after flahing xt883 and I was wondering if I could fix it with this?
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Hey there guys, Village Idiot here...I've been successfully using Hash's SafeStrap for a while now and wanted to try this one out. What's the difference here? Just by looking at it, I can't tell. It seems better from what everyone is saying, but I have no idea how to utilize it. Would you mind dumbing it down for Simple Jack over here? Thanks.
redsox985 said:
Hey there guys, Village Idiot here...I've been successfully using Hash's SafeStrap for a while now and wanted to try this one out. What's the difference here? Just by looking at it, I can't tell. It seems better from what everyone is saying, but I have no idea how to utilize it. Would you mind dumbing it down for Simple Jack over here? Thanks.
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It has a console option included, allowing you to run shell commands, which could potentially save your butt if used right.
Otherwise it the same
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Endoroid said:
It has a console option included, allowing you to run shell commands, which could potentially save your butt if used right.
Otherwise it the same
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Which it just did lmao..hash really needs to include this in his release!
Once again thanks for this mod it is PERFECT!
ovelayer said:
Which it just did lmao..hash really needs to include this in his release!
Once again thanks for this mod it is PERFECT!
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Oh I'm sure I'll be damn thankful at some point. Made a point of installinng it
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Rick#2 said:
I have an XT860, so I'm curious to see if this would work on your ME863. I remember seeing a post of yours a few months ago mentioning issues with the preinstall and data partitions (I think it seemed that the data partition was extended into the first bytes of the preinstall partition, rendering it unmountable during init) that should also have affected the XT860, but I have never experienced any issues with the partitions since Hashcode released v1.06.
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The difference is the other way 'round. The /data partition is extended backwards over the end of the /preinstall partition.
It doesn't cause problems during init, it was causing nandroid to fail mounting /system, and presumably would make switching to safe-mode fail (although I never tried)
My patch to fix this for nandroid was based on 1.06. The only way this could be 'fixed completely' in safestrap was if safestrap had had repartitioning code added at some point to resize /data back down and grow /preinstall to be large enough to hold a safe system. And Hashcode'd said he didn't have time or real inclination to do that, I thought.
I'm fairly strapped for time at the moment, so I don't know when I'll have a chance to look at the source and/or try out your build. But it's definitely somewhere in my TODO list. ^_^
orry for dumb question...ok, i wanr root my friends drodi 3,i think i know how to do it using the one click software the same i used to root my bionic,now to order to go into custom recovery i need install this apk file am i right,i mean is the same as in bionics bootstrap???? sorr y for noob qustion ,just that i dont speak english very well so i need be 100% sure what am doing thanks again,,btw do u know if the last wifi tethering works on this droid 3???
@rick#2
I'm running CM9 for daily use, but it's a bit wobbly at times, so I run 7.1 as the "non-safe" system. The big limitation to this is that I can't maintain the 7.1 fallback properly as hashcode deliberately disabled installing zips in non-safe mode.
If the wife has forgiven you by now - any chance of adding the ability to install .zips when in non-safe mode?
The alternative is to keep swapping bootstraps all the time, and all it takes is one late night sleepy mistake to stop the device booting one system or both.
I'm in favor of this as well, and have even mentioned it in the main SS thread. Could you add flashing to non-safe, but say with like 3 layers of warnings saying something like "THIS IS YOUR NON-SAFE, MAIN SYSTEM. FLASHING HERE CAN BRICK YOU."
This would be really nice because it's a PITA to keep switching strappers, albeit it easy, just a burden.
This is a great hack! I was considering doing this myself but you beat me to it! BTW, is your modified source code on github or somewhere like that, or can you send it to me if not? Thanks again!
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates to this thread. Been buuuusy.
I made an account on github about two weeks ago, but still haven't gotten the chance to upload the sources there, for those of you who are interested. I'll do that shortly.
I've got a new version I'll put up pretty soon, just need to do some more testing. I've enabled scrolling (ie: holding a key down to repeat it as opposed to requiring you to push it each time) but have to iron a few things out, and I'd like to add another menu enabling some of the (somewhat dangerous although useful if you know what you're doing) features some of you have requested.
Rick#2 said:
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates to this thread. Been buuuusy.
I made an account on github about two weeks ago, but still haven't gotten the chance to upload the sources there, for those of you who are interested. I'll do that shortly.
I've got a new version I'll put up pretty soon, just need to do some more testing. I've enabled scrolling (ie: holding a key down to repeat it as opposed to requiring you to push it each time) but have to iron a few things out, and I'd like to add another menu enabling some of the (somewhat dangerous although useful if you know what you're doing) features some of you have requested.
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Dude you rock!
Sence you introduced your mod i have used nothing else..
The scrolling feature would be a HUGE improvement i agree ..
Also it would be nice if you could flash on the non-safe system as well..
Hope you can get er done..
I allways seem to watch this thread for updated..i really hope you can continue this adventure without the wife killing you lol..stay real!
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denpad2010 said:
orry for dumb question...ok, i wanr root my friends drodi 3,i think i know how to do it using the one click software the same i used to root my bionic,now to order to go into custom recovery i need install this apk file am i right,i mean is the same as in bionics bootstrap???? sorr y for noob qustion ,just that i dont speak english very well so i need be 100% sure what am doing thanks again,,btw do u know if the last wifi tethering works on this droid 3???
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Hey bro if you want wifi teather look up android-wifi-teather..it works!
So, I am planning to install Ubuntu to run it alongside Win 7. The PC is broken now, but will be fixed in about 2 weeks. I have some questions about it, will have a lot of other when I install it, and will need tips and tricks for it.
So, I have a 1TB HD that, have 2 partitions: a 800 Gb for almot everything, and a 200 Gb partition that have most of my family personal files (music, videos, documents, photos and some other random files).
So, first question is: I want to partition my 1 TB HD so I have a good space for Windows (and programs), a good space for Ubuntu and the rest for files. How I should partition it? I can make a backup of everything, except Windows itself, but if I can keep everything on it's place, the better it is.
Second, how dual boot works exactly? After the PC boots, it will ask which OS I want or it will boot with a default OS and I have to do something to boot on the other one?
Third, as I Android phone owner, I need to set up everything for do Android things (ADB and related), PC Companion and Sony Update Service (Sony Mobile things). What I should do?
Forth, as Windows is the most used OS, almost everything is optimized to it. For programs, how it install things? Just like Windows (a .exe file for Ubuntu) or there is something like a store, where I just choose what to download, and then it do the job by itself. Or a mix from both? (just like Android, Market and .apk files).
Fifth, I saw there a lot of themes for it. How they work for a user? There is someway to quickly switch between them or something like that?
Sixth, coming from a 15 years experience with Windows, and 1 year from Android, I will get easily lot on it?
I think it's everything by now. As I said, when I install it, I will have a lot more of thing I don't know, so I come here again.
Thanks in advance, Felipe
I'm in a similar situation. ~15 years on Windows, power user / basically a MCSE without the certification. I've dabbled w/ linux over the years but never made the transition. I decided I wanted to dual boot vista and ubuntu. So far, it's going pretty smoothly. At first, it was difficult to configure things the way I like, but here's what I've done:
Although I liked Unity fine, I run Cinnamon instead of Unity. It's a bit more windows-like without being KDE (which I didn't care for). I installed a few tools, one is called Tweak, and the other is called Compiz Config Manager. These let you modify things a bit easier.
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I suppose I should have tried to answer a few of your specific questions, too.
Felimenta97 said:
How I should partition it?
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I'm sure some expert will chime in too, but for me, just to explore Ubuntu, I installed it from inside of Windows. (So windows is "host", whatever that means). My Ubuntu boot can see all my windows files. I think I allocated about 20-30 gigs of HDD space for Ubuntu.
Felimenta97 said:
Second, how dual boot works exactly?
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After the BIOS screen, you get a screen that lets you select which OS to boot to, Windows or Ubuntu. You can probably set the default for after timeout.
Felimenta97 said:
What I should do?
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I don't really do any android dev so I didn't install the SDK yet. The other stuff, presuming those programs have a linux counterpart, you should be okay. Just google how to install in ubuntu from source.
Felimenta97 said:
Forth, as Windows is the most used OS, almost everything is optimized to it. For programs, how it install things? Just like Windows (a .exe file for Ubuntu) or there is something like a store, where I just choose what to download, and then it do the job by itself. Or a mix from both? (just like Android, Market and .apk files).
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There is a ubuntu software center now that is similar to the Android Market, makes it pretty easy. You can also use the command apt-get install to install things from the command line. (generally you can google for it, like google for "apt-get install google music manager" and someone will have posted the answer in a forum. Be prepared to do a lot of this kind of discovery to get yourself up and running.
Felimenta97 said:
Fifth, I saw there a lot of themes for it. How they work for a user? There is someway to quickly switch between them or something like that?
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Your desktop manager (I use Cinnamon) will probably have different themes available. I haven't messed with that too much, but those two programs I mentioned previously will help you customize the visual experience.
Felimenta97 said:
Sixth, coming from a 15 years experience with Windows, and 1 year from Android, I will get easily lot on it?
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If you're willing to put the effort in at the beginning, it's not that hard. Google is your friend.
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Oh, I also found the #ubuntu-beginners IRC room on freenode to be helpful, but sometimes you have to ask your question and wait around a while before anyone is there to answer.
Just use wubi (windows ubuntu installer)
it partions and sets up dual boot perfectly. But one suggestion, I think you should wait for the Ubuntu 12.04 release to be finished. It is currently in a final beta but it will release later this month
Link to wubi : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
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shravbits said:
Just use wubi (windows ubuntu installer)
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Yes, that was the name of the thing I used,wubi. Very straightforward.
As for waiting for the new Ubuntu... too late for me, but might be a good idea if the release date is in the near future.
Oh, and another thing: How updates works?
Felimenta97 said:
Oh, and another thing: How updates works?
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There is an update manager that seems to run in the background, it pops up for me from time to time when some software needs to be updated.
You can also do apt-get update. Google for this: "The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
Chapter 9 - Keeping your Debian system up-to-date" That will take you to a good info page about it.
kindlezeb said:
There is an update manager that seems to run in the background, it pops up for me from time to time when some software needs to be updated.
You can also do apt-get update. Google for this: "The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
Chapter 9 - Keeping your Debian system up-to-date" That will take you to a good info page about it.
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No. I mean, on a big update (11.10 to 12.04), it's like a Windows Update Service, that may require a reboot, but will keep the system there?
Forth, as Windows is the most used OS, almost everything is optimized to it. For programs, how it install things? Just like Windows (a .exe file for Ubuntu) or there is something like a store, where I just choose what to download, and then it do the job by itself. Or a mix from both? (just like Android, Market and .apk files).
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You have several ways of doing this.
1. You can go to the Software Center. That's like the Market/Play Store on your Android device. Search or find what you want and click install. You will not find everything since Ubuntu/Linux depends on sources. The Software Center does have the Ubuntu source and that's about it. You can add more if you want to.
2. You can use the Terminal.
"Sudo apt-get install (enter package name here)", so if you want to install Opera (which will already be in the Ubuntu app source i believe) then type "sudo apt-get install opera". That's it.
If you want to remove it (or another app) then type "sudo apt-get purge opera", and if you want to remove all of the app content then you type "sudo apt-get autoremove opera" (after purge). You can also do this with one command, and that would look something like this: "sudo apt-get purge opera -y && sudo apt-get autoremove opera -y".
3. You can use Synaptics (not installed by default anymore). With Synaptics you'll get a list and a more advanced approch to app installations. You can sort by date, size, versions, packages that's missing, broken packages and many more.
I will personally recommend you using the Software Center for app installation, but the terminal is really great to do things fast. But it takes some learning so just start by remembering some easy commands like how to install and remove apps.
I would answer your questions, but I have to get up early in the morning. For now, see this. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ I will try to help you tomorrow.
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this will bring us full funtion of ubuntu?
Interesting. Im going to try this. Thanks buddy.
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mafiarock93 said:
this will bring us full funtion of ubuntu?
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Define "full function". If you mean, can you upgrade to Ubuntu 12, no. If you mean, can you run Unity, no. If you mean being able to to almost everything you would do on a regular PC running Ubuntu, yes. Granted there is no support for NTFS drives or DVD burners and things of that sort but look at the software list. Short of playing Halo, it covers over 90% of what people use a computer for.
Here's a list of what I use it for;
Web browsing (posting this using webtop)
Watch movies (pretty much any flash video site works)
Watch Hulu (no app needed and am infact watching Hulu right now)
Listen to music (local or streaming)
Create and edit documents, speadsheets, powerpoint
Near Photoshop level of image editing
Edit audio files
ROM work
Chat
Torrents
Gaming (both linux games and using emulators)
Website updates and maintenance
Writing and editing scripts
What I can't do with it or haven't tried yet;
SBF flashing (haven't tried)
Working in ADB and fastboot (haven't tried)
Watch Netflix (there's an app for that)
Run a current version of Chrome or Firefox (this only has Firefox 8 right now)
Kernel compiles (make is a bit old in ubuntop)
I hope this helps.
Lokifish Marz said:
Define "full function". If you mean, can you upgrade to Ubuntu 12, no. If you mean, can you run Unity, no. If you mean being able to to almost everything you would do on a regular PC running Ubuntu, yes. Granted there is no support for NTFS drives or DVD burners and things of that sort but look at the software list. Short of playing Halo, it covers over 90% of what people use a computer for.
Here's a list of what I use it for;
Web browsing (posting this using webtop)
Watch movies (pretty much any flash video site works)
Watch Hulu (no app needed and am infact watching Hulu right now)
Listen to music (local or streaming)
Create and edit documents, speadsheets, powerpoint
Near Photoshop level of image editing
Edit audio files
ROM work
Chat
Torrents
Gaming (both linux games and using emulators)
Website updates and maintenance
Writing and editing scripts
What I can't do with it or haven't tried yet;
SBF flashing (haven't tried)
Working in ADB and fastboot (haven't tried)
Watch Netflix (there's an app for that)
Run a current version of Chrome or Firefox (this only has Firefox 8 right now)
Kernel compiles (make is a bit old in ubuntop)
I hope this helps.
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tks for the tips ^^
Firefox wont connect to the internet
Thanks for your hard work with this.
After installing - firefox will not connect to the internet - despite rebooting to recovery and wiping the cache
Please can you help
PS. webtop2sd does not detect my sd card either so I cant enable the other apps on my atrix
Thanks
liquidhead said:
Thanks for your hard work with this.
After installing - firefox will not connect to the internet - despite rebooting to recovery and wiping the cache
Please can you help
PS. webtop2sd does not detect my sd card either so I cant enable the other apps on my atrix
Thanks
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"webtop2sd is required for Atrix users because there is only 1.3MB free space otherwise"
First hit up the webtop2sd thread to figure out what's up because with it working, Ubuntop won't work.
Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers
I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)
Still no luck!
Lokifish Marz said:
"webtop2sd is required for Atrix users because there is only 1.3MB free space otherwise"
First hit up the webtop2sd thread to figure out what's up because with it working, Ubuntop won't work.
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Hi
Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd
Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]
webtop2sd now setup
have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.
have rebooted and wiped cache too.
Now stuck!
Any help appreciated!
I've been using webtop2sd with NottachTrix since its introduction. On the last fresh install, I had to relink busybox in the /etc/webtop2sd directory.
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omar93500 said:
Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers
I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)
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I have the same question, and is it faster (like Gentop tries to be).
Also, do I need webtop2sd for the install, or can I install this to the internal partition first then move it with webtop2sd? Can I use my sd partition to extend certain directories to get more space (again like Gentop) instead of mirroring everything (like webtop2sd does).
liquidhead said:
Hi
Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd
Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]
webtop2sd now setup
have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.
have rebooted and wiped cache too.
Now stuck!
Any help appreciated!
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Unsure as to how similar our problems are, but my Firefox stopped working after I flashed to a CM9 ROM then returned to Nottachtrix again.
Ultimately I used Atrix Fastboot Tool to erase the Webtop partition then flashed a stock webtop through CWM. Perhaps try that and then install UbunTop.
Lots of questions so let me try to get everything answered.
omar93500 said:
Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers
I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)
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First this is a unified base so you don't think of it as Atrix Ubuntop vs Electrify Ubuntop vs Photon Ubuntop. You have to think of it as Moto Tegra2 Ubuntop (I'm thinking I should rename it that). File for file it is the exact same as what's run on the Electrify and Photon. Advantages of a unified base are many. As long as I can get it to fit inside that 755MB cap the Atrix has, ANY tweaks or improvements made by ANYBODY in Moto Tegra2 community can be applied. Granted approval on both sides and proper credit will apply. The other advantage is that any major updates (like Ubuntu 10,11,12) that I can cram into that 755MB automatically become usable to all the Moto Tegra2 Webtop users!
The other main difference is that all the flashing and scripts to get to an unlocked webtop with synaptic and custom dock/desktop are already done. When you install OpenOffice what do you do? You launch synaptic, search for openoffice then go through and select packages. In Ubuntop, you launch synaptic, click file/read markings and select the openoffice file in the software folder. Take all the software listed in the OP, that's installed by selecting one preconfigured markings file. There are also things like over 150 config edits to Firefox alone that are permanent, a lot of moto crap has been removed.
To compared to what you probably have setup, Ubuntop will get you there far faster and with less time in terminal. In short, far more average user friendly. User friendly has been my goal since Ubuntop launched back in September of last year because Moto really screwed up what could have been an amazing product. Read this and you will understand my motives behind this.
liquidhead said:
Hi
Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd
Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]
webtop2sd now setup
have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.
have rebooted and wiped cache too.
Now stuck!
Any help appreciated!
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Ubuntop was deved on that very ROM. I do have a fix so I'm going to amend the install method for the Atrix in the OP. The install method should now be;
Flash Univ_Ubuntop_v1.0.0.zip via CWM
Reboot
*Atrix Users-Run webtop2sd
Launch Webtop+
Reboot into recovery and flash menupatch.zip
Relaunch Webtop+ and enjoy!
troycarpenter said:
I have the same question, and is it faster (like Gentop tries to be).
Also, do I need webtop2sd for the install, or can I install this to the internal partition first then move it with webtop2sd? Can I use my sd partition to extend certain directories to get more space (again like Gentop) instead of mirroring everything (like webtop2sd does).
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Right now I'm trying to get everybody on the same webtop base (WT-1.2.0-180) for the reason stated above. It does have a number of improvements over stock but has yet to be fully optimized. As nice as Gentop2 is, it's far larger than Ubuntop and has files spread all over the phone and SDCard. Try this and tell me how it goes;
Ignore any CWM backups you may have
Ignore your computer
Perform a factory reset (or format preinstall when ROM flashing)
Try to launch Gentop2
Try the same with Ubuntop (all that's needed is webtop2sd and the menupatch.zip to get you up and running again)
So Ubuntop's other main advantages are survivability after factory reset and install/distribution method.
(I have offered to make Gentop2 flashable and even provided a template.zip but have not heard back. I may make it flashable and simply give him the file. Yes I give dev work away, a lot actually.)
If you want to play with splitting up Ubuntop feel free but I have not done so for the reasons stated above.
I hope you guys are submitting this to portal because if THIS can make it the is no reason why Ubuntop can't.
Would we need to delete webtop2sd if we already have it installed or can we just flash and boot into webtop?
ToonShadow said:
Would we need to delete webtop2sd if we already have it installed or can we just flash and boot into webtop?
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Open webtop2sd and go to the "execute" tab and click uninstall.
Unmount your sdcard and format it.
Reboot the phone and launch webtop2sd and treat it as if you had never run it before.
How to set up Pidgin for GTalk and mastashake57's Webtop Exchange email (untested) added to the OP
I'm tempted to try this, but I have one major motivation in trying it.
Will it run a modern version of Chromium? My current webtop setup has an unbearably slow Firefox and due to a few outdated packages required to get webtop to boot, the newest version of Chromium that I can install from synaptic or otherwise without breaking my webtop is version 4. It crashes constantly, but it's still considerably faster than Firefox, despite the crashes.
What's the latest version of Chromium that Ubuntop can run on the Atrix?
Ollonk said:
I'm tempted to try this, but I have one major motivation in trying it.
Will it run a modern version of Chromium? My current webtop setup has an unbearably slow Firefox and due to a few outdated packages required to get webtop to boot, the newest version of Chromium that I can install from synaptic or otherwise without breaking my webtop is version 4. It crashes constantly, but it's still considerably faster than Firefox, despite the crashes.
What's the latest version of Chromium that Ubuntop can run on the Atrix?
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Define "unbearably slow". If you can give me some raw data it would be a big help.
I need to know Kernel/ROM (any additional settings,changes), addresses of test webpages, webpage load time, sunspider bench and so on. I will then duplicate your tests and post results.
The supported Chrome version is going to be the same.
Also if it helps. On the Photon running Joker/Imperium at 1.2GHz running Photon UbunTop v1.2, page loads and sunspider scores were about the same as the Dell mini 10 Z530 1.6GHz running firefox/safari/chrome. Testing was done back in Feb/Mar 2012. To be honest, the Dell mini 10 and similarly spec'd netbooks are a good indicator as to performance in many areas. Considering that Moto used a generic Ubuntu Jaunty ARM base from 2009, I'm surprised it performs as well as it does.
Files
Where are the download files, i dont see them on the site
Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister
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I know your a noob that's cool I was in that boat before. but I usually search before I come to a forum and ask questions because 9 out of 10 times this has been asked before. If you knew Linux can get on the touchpad then there's already posts about it. If you cant find it on the forum its simple as opening up your web browser and googling it.
http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
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Hi hovax615,
Thanks for your quick reply / help... I'm a noob when it comes to HP Touchpad Development, and the tweaks/tricks of the Touchpad world.. But not a noob when it comes to Computers / Android... as I work in IT, as a Support Technician for many years...
I've done my fair share of searching the forums, both here, and other boards and info on native Linux seems very thin on the ground. When I ask on here, get very little replies... And the threads that were created by the OP just list the files to download, with very little instruction on how to use them. I've tried to follow them best I can, and so far all what Ive tried do not work!! I've used MoBoot (or whatever its called), Kexec, NSBoot and SmackMe2, all to no avail....
Due to the storage restrictions of Touchpad, I've even swapped files around in the \Boot partition to allow for SmackMe2 to reside in its limited space. I've ran the programmes they suggest installs Linux, and it goes all through the motions, but nothing is visible or boots afterwards. I can multi-boot between WebOS and Android straight forward enough, but nothing seems to work with Linux...
Thanks for your suggestion on CHroot, and someone else suggested that in a previous thread... But from my understanding, isnt that an Emulated environment? It boots/runs from within either WebOS or Android?? From what I've seen on these forums, is that you can get Ubuntu 11 / 12 or even 13 to boot natively from its own partition via MoBoot or Kexec...
I dont like the looks of Ubuntu 13 ported to Touchpad based on its dark theme GUI, hence why I am trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 working...
So what I'm really after, is instructions to get Linux to install from a fresh WebOS install... Do I use SmackMe2 or NSBoot to install it?? And then do I load it with either MoBoot or Kexec?? I've only ever had it listed in Kexec loader once, and even then it didnt boot...
Any idea's on the above methods welcomed please... I'm trying with Ubuntu 12.10 with this file "TouchPadBuntuRootfs1210v2.tar.gz" which is around 600Mb large... and it installs, but nothing boots afterwards, other than WebOS or Android...
Many thanks, Lister
https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
Forget the above/below question, I found out that all the files need to just go directly in the root of USB storage, and not require a (internal) folder on MEDIA partition.
Well all has gone reasonably well this time. I now have MoBoot with both WebOS and Ubuntu....
WebOS loads flawlessly... However Ubuntu loads the pre-boot kernel (all the writing.......) and then reboots to MoBoot loader.... I have re-ran the Kernel script, so I dont keep loosing chunks of 4GB storage... but still fails to boot Ubuntu (other than loader). Any idea's...???
Many thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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I'd say do a fresh start again. And run it this way.
http://www.techwarelabs.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-hp-touchpad/
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Hi hovax615,
No need now, as I got it to fully install and boot up last night...
I'd just like to say a BIG THANKS to Hovax615, who has helped me to install Ubuntu onto the HP Touchpad... and for not giving up, and offering other way's to install it...
To anyone else wanting to install Ubuntu, and having problems... I suggest not using SmackMe2, Kexec or NSBoot as they do not work!! I'm sure they prolly do, but with no instructions included with those tools, and lack of feedback from anyone... I have given up on them!
The method that Hovax615 mentioned in his (code.google.com/) link works a treat, and is fairly easy to follow... My advice, DO read what it says on screen... The problem i had with the OS not loading was because I didnt read an obscure message that said press "1 or 0".... other than that, smooth as anything...
Only problem I have now, is that the graphic/screen is garbaged... Pretty sure its just drive related, so will wipe this build and install a new build, maybe even 13.04 (just dont like the black theme). And the WiFi commands dont work, only the first line does.... Other than that, very impressed with Ubuntu on Touchpad...
Thanks, Lister
I've never installed Ubuntu myself but I was so glad to help to get you to be able to install Ubuntu. I'm thinking about doing the same today and installing it. Might need a little help also
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Hi hovax615,
Oh right, sure go for it... Its actually really cool once you got it all installed (WebOS, Android and Ubuntu).... And I fully recomend you do it via the original link to you sent me (Code.Google.Com/xxxxxxx) rather than the CHroot method. From my understanding, CHroot is emulated and not native, and not only that, it looks more complicated...
The guide I followed was a breeze, so so simple.... Basically, the only bit that got me confused was the Media / Internal as Ive seen the MASS STORAGE part called Media before. But never seen it called Media / Internal and so thought you had to create a folder at the root of Media, called Internal... But you dont!!! Just dump all the files at the root of that folder... and then copy the commands.
When running the commands, look to see what it says on the screen... I ignored where it said "Press 1 if xyz happened, or Press 0 if xyz didnt happen"... and so pressing [Enter] caused it to fail, as it didnt really install. But if you read it, and press the right key, which I think was 0 followed by 1, then it all installs fine....
I have a problem with the graphics on Ubuntu, which could either be bad install (gonna try a re-install), or try the newer 13.04 (over 12.10 that I currently have).
But sure, if ya get stuck, let me know.... and thanks once again for pointing that link out, and for helping...
Lister
Okay so I got Ubuntu 13.04 e17 working on my touchpad vis the smackme2 method not the method i gave you because i tried and it would execute it properly. I'm not familiar with Linux or Ubuntu. I'm having a hard time trying to connect to the internet
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Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister
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It shouldn't have had an effect using the older ones you just have to download the proper things
uImage.kexec" and the "kexec-<OSNAME>.tar along with moboot and whatever os your going to use on a clean install. Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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...Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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Bottom right corner, blank space next to the OnBoard icon. Hit that, and it will ask which access point to connect to.