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[DISCUSSION/TESTING] Ubuntu Linux on Blackstone

Hi men.
Let's talk here about running Ubuntu on our blackstones.
Right now we can boot Ubuntu arm on our blackstones, based on the 'omnibuntu' files. it seems to work well but screen calibration is still difficult...
you can find useful links on the last pages of the android thread (i'm on my blackstone right now and it's difficult to copy and paste all the links) but let's leave the android thread for android...
let's see how far we can get from now

FIRST I WANT TO SAY BIG THANKS FOR THOSE WHO HAD MADE GREAT WORK TO BUILD BLACKSTONE LINUX KERNEL!
WITHOUT IT THIS TREE IS NOT TO BE POSSIBLE.
Here is lidle howto because make lidle bit sense to boot ubuntu.
1.First you have to make partitions to your memory card.(WARNING!!!!!! IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU MAY LOSE YOUR DATA)
-start ubuntu live cd 9.04 in your pc wich you find here:http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ (I think that everyone can burn iso image to cd, but if not just ask)
-in your blackstone go Start-Settings-Connections-USB to PC and select Disk Drive (If you want use activesync you have to change it back to ActiveSync)
-connect your blackstone to pc and make partitions with those instructions witch found here:http://linuxomnia.sourceforge.net/Howto.pdf
2.Second you have to put ubuntu files write places.
-download attachs (fatfiles.zip) and extract to first partition
-download omniubuntu-rootfs.tar.gz here:http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxomnia/files/ and extract it and put files to second partition
3.Boot.
-in blackstone filemanager go to storage card and start haret
-select run and ubuntu will boot
-as fast as you can, move the keyboard lidle bit down because until you can`t calibrate the screen
-when it seems to stop buuting is time calibrate screen
-tap first up left to screen and move up the cross and let off, next make same up right, down right, down left and middle of the screen
This is how i get it works(First i only tap the screen.Second tap i let and hold stylus on the sceen and move it up the cross.In the same way i do to top right....ec.)
-one more tap and that is it
AND AS USUALLY ALWAYS IT IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Start debian installer
You can run debian install by downloading one iso from:http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/arm/iso-cd/ and extract it to second partition wich is ext2 and put attachs and initrd.gz in first partition wich is fat.Initrrd.gz you will find here:http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/versatile/netboot/
Also put vmlinuz in second ext2 partition and after all boot installation with haret.I am not yet finished installation.
You can extract iso file with 7zip.

You have nearly 400 views and only 2 replies. I feel that if you are going to keep this thread alive and vibrant with lots of posts you need to layout exactly what it is you are doing because a large number of people have no idea what this is all about and why they should get involved.
Then give very detailed and straight forward instruction on how to install such software, but make the instruction idiot proof.
Consider a description or screenshots to help people grasp your concept.
Thanks and good luck as whatever it is you are doing sounds interesting.

hi sakkeus.
very interesting, thanks!
a couple of questions:
-which initrd were you using with ubuntu?
-can we use the same ubuntu partitions to run debian?
thanks!
let's keep trying and testing

Heefy said:
You have nearly 400 views and only 2 replies. I feel that if you are going to keep this thread alive and vibrant with lots of posts you need to layout exactly what it is you are doing because a large number of people have no idea what this is all about and why they should get involved.
Then give very detailed and straight forward instruction on how to install such software, but make the instruction idiot proof.
Consider a description or screenshots to help people grasp your concept.
Thanks and good luck as whatever it is you are doing sounds interesting.
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I am myself still checkin out how to use linux in blackstone.
I will make sense instructions abaut what i get out, but it takes lidle time.

kingofslide54 said:
hi sakkeus.
very interesting, thanks!
a couple of questions:
-which initrd were you using with ubuntu?
-can we use the same ubuntu partitions to run debian?
thanks!
let's keep trying and testing
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None initrd to fat partition.All system files are in second ext2 partition except zimage default.txt and haret.
I think that debian installation needs more room in ext2, but otherwise same parts.

sakkeus11 said:
None initrd to fat partition.All system files are in second ext2 partition except zimage default.txt and haret.
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thanks, sakkeus, but when I try to launch ubuntu using your default, haret says 'couldnt find initrd'. when I remove the initrd line from the default, ubuntu boots well (excepting the screen calibration) so I think ext2 files are ok.that's why I asked.

if it works it would be interesting to see if anyone can get Maemo to work on the hd it's the same os used on the Nokia N900 and heavily based on Linux

yes, Heefy is right!
everything sounds interesting,but i know just a little about linux.
can u explain us?
thanx

3lixir said:
if it works it would be interesting to see if anyone can get Maemo to work on the hd it's the same os used on the Nokia N900 and heavily based on Linux
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That would be very nice!!

Ubuntu MID
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/

kingofslide54 said:
thanks, sakkeus, but when I try to launch ubuntu using your default, haret says 'couldnt find initrd'. when I remove the initrd line from the default, ubuntu boots well (excepting the screen calibration) so I think ext2 files are ok.that's why I asked.
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Did you really get fat files from this thread second post because i just chek the default text wich is there and there in no initrd.
I think you should redownload fatfiles from second post.

kingofslide54 said:
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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Yeah!....................

wow!
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sakkeus11 said:
Did you really get fat files from this thread second post because i just chek the default text wich is there and there in no initrd.
I think you should redownload fatfiles from second post.
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You're right... can't understand why, coz I downloaded the files from the phone itself and overwrote everything... I'll try again.
sakkeus11 said:
Yeah!....................
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Yeah!!!!!
I found it looking for a good on-screen keyboard, wondering if I should code one... but this looks better

Found something than can be useful.
Once in the ubuntu desktop, if you press 'ctrl+alt+del', go to console mode and type 'exit', you go back to the calibration screen.

kingofslide54 said:
Found something than can be useful.
Once in the ubuntu desktop, if you press 'ctrl+alt+del', go to console mode and type 'exit', you go back to the calibration screen.
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This would be useful because it maybe not go well first time.

sakkeus11 said:
This would be useful because it maybe not go well first time.
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Well, in fact, I wasn't able to get it well till now but I'll keep trying

kingofslide54 said:
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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I have been tried install ubuntu MID edition, but as like debian it not found install files because there is no internet connection.Needed get internet connection works or some how load install files from storage.

Cannot create soft link as root on rooted GT

At some point, I had created a soft link under Copilot so that I could have the maps on my external SD card... and it was working great.
But now, after installing new firmware, I am trying to recreate that link, and having trouble doing so. The image shows that I have tried two different ways to create that soft link, and either way should work (at least on other platforms they should!). But as can also be seen, they do not.
Can some kind soul point out what I might be doing wrong here?
Of course, when I try this without 'su' I get 'permission denied' or some variant.
Thanks,
Edit: I apologize. This dang "improved" app is not properly uploading pictures. Will update when I'm home, since, apparently, xda-developers isn't friendly with IE7, which is all I have here at work.
Edit2: Updated with picture. Thanks for any advice.
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Use a portable firefox which you can load on an external flash drive and leaves no traces at work

DarkPal said:
Use a portable firefox which you can load on an external flash drive and leaves no traces at work
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Yeah, I used to do that before my employer decided to disallow any USB access. Ports are deader than dead. :\
Have a day. I'm off to my real home. Back online tonight.

Even with root powers you cannot create symlinks on filesystems that do not support them. Like FAT32.

Technomancer said:
Even with root powers you cannot create symlinks on filesystems that do not support them. Like FAT32.
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Ah, thanks! But it seems I have done this. Ah well... not the first time I was wrong today.

[Q] Question about Ubuntu

So i've been wanting to try out Ubuntu lately and ran it off of a USB drive i have. I liked it a lot but i don't want to lose my stuff from W7. I was watching a vid on youtube that involved installing it to HDD and then when you start your system, is asks which you'd like to boot; Ubuntu or W7. I want to make sure that it will always ask for this input when starting my system because i would like to change between the two frequently.
Thanks in advance.

Dual booting you mean?
I installed mine in a different partition. GRUB will let you choose which one to boot.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda 3, Onix 2.0.5 @ 1.2Ghz

Yes, dual-booting.
Doing the extra partition will leave my W7 untouched though right? And i can do this through Wubi? Also, will my setting and all that save to ubuntu if i change back to W7 then back to Ubuntu again? sorry for all the questions.

DeriquedeCoux said:
Yes, dual-booting.
Doing the extra partition will leave my W7 untouched though right? And i can do this through Wubi? Also, will my setting and all that save to ubuntu if i change back to W7 then back to Ubuntu again? sorry for all the questions.
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Yes.
Yes you can.
Everything would be saved.
And you can access your W7 partition from Ubuntu , but not the other way around.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda 3, Onix 2.0.5 @ 1.2Ghz

Partitioning can corrupt your drive. If recommend wubi first (make sure to get to 11.04 one)
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yup, try wubi, it's way safer and more comfortable.
and you can easily uninstall it if you didn't like it

yeah i did it through wubi.. it comes with the download of ubuntu (or kubuntu in my case)
maybe y'all can help me with this: i was wondering, because i plan on getting a 1Tb HDD and then also like a 320Gb EHDD, if i can throw kubuntu onto the EHDD and just run it off there? like will it still ask which i'd like to boot to during startup?

brilldoctor said:
Partitioning can corrupt your drive. If recommend wubi first (make sure to get to 11.04 one)
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Does it now?
Had screwed up the masterboot record a few times before, but nothing else besides that.

thats what I meant to say

[webtop] webtop2sd discussion (currently version 2.0.1)

Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.

great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).

I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.

These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!

i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?

I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?

I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin

Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)

Looks great, thanks for the hard work

Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.

n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
Djazin said:
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.

everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..

Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin

dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10

n1ckr0th said:
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?

PAulyhoffman said:
32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.

Sogarth said:
Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night

Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)

I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......

_Dennis_ said:
I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.

Easy method to Install Ubuntu 12.10 on Touchpad?

Hi All,
I seek your help please, and yes I have searched and read as many, if not all the related posts.... I am fairly Tech savvy (I work in IT) and know my way around Android absolutely fine.... However I cannot for the life of me get Ubuntu to install on the Tablet, and dont know why??
Current setup...
1) HP Touchpad running, WebOS 3.0.5, and Android 4.2.2 (PAC 23:00) and have created a volume for Ubuntu
2) I've managed to install various Loaders, Recoveries, such as SmackMe2, NSBoot, MoBoot, Kexec, CWM.
I downloaded some image file for Ubuntu 12.10 v2, cant remember where or even find the thread again, but it was for HP Touchpad and was around 600Mb's.....
Took me a while to get my head around NSBoot, however I did manage to create a volume (after I released you cant have any spaces in it) and formatted it for Ext3. I then went to install the TAR.GZ file, which appeared to work...
However, when I try to boot it from either NSBoot or Kexec, it doesnt do anything... just looks like its loading, and then reboots the tablet to the NSBoot menu...
Is there something Im doing wrong, or an easy way to get it on... I'm going away on holiday soon, and would be ace to have Ubuntu on here too...
Thanks, Lister

Hi All,
Does anyone have any ideas how to get Ubuntu 12.10 on here?? Because at the moment, i am starting to think it is NOT POSSIBLE!!!
As no one has left any feed back, or clear instructions on how it done. And with a Boot partition of only 31Mb, it is clearly not enough to have all the scripts in there... I removed a few files, and ending up BRICKING my Touchpad. Through a few hacks, and tweaks, managed to get it back online... But now have to start again...
So any clues as to Linux on Touchpad please?
Thanks, Lister

ok what youre going to be doing is installing a chroot linux environment. you dont actually create a separate partition and bootloader for the linux install. you will actually be running it from within webos or from within android. i havent used webos forever so i cant remember how that goes but from within android its entirely too easy to do. you would likely benefit from an app called complete linux installer. it provides a complete walkthrough and links for the .img downloads. you shouldnt be deleting files all willy nilly from important device partitions, everything inside the /boot partition is there for a reason. youre not supposed to delete any of it.

Hi Haxin,
I will certainly look at those methods, as i will like to try it. Ideally I would like to try it outside of WebOS or Android, and have it as a native boot... But current efforts have proved useless so far, even though people say its possible. With little instructions, I have broken my Touchpad twice now, with current one needing a whole re-write of the filesystem to repair it.
I know to delete files in important system partitions is extremely risky/dangerous.... However after asking for various help and getting none, I needed to trial and error and removed files I added myself (or what I thought I had) However as you saw, that didnt really work out too well... lol
I am still looking for an easy way to install it natively prefered, but I will look at the method you mentioned though, just to see how it runs...
Many thanks, Lister