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New to Android or NAND?

I'm no longer keeping up with NAND on the vogue. So if anyone would like to keep me informed and email me or post me on any changes with NAND, ill be happy to add the news on the first post. The lock up issue with NAND has been fixed!
This is simply for any noobs or others who are having issues with Android and NAND.
IMPORTANT!!!
FOR VOGUE USERS ONLY
I am not responsible for any bricked or messed up devices. By continuing you are agreeing to my simple rule.
MY SIMPLE RULE: I owe you nothing.
I will help you through the way though if you bricked or need any sort of help.
How-to Video up NOW!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTkJkOc7m4
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First off, What is NAND?
To keep it simple...its your phones internal memory. Up untill recently we (Vogue Users) had to run Android off our SD cards using HARET. But thats another story.
What are the benefits of running from NAND? (based on what I have seen)
-Runs faster
-Longer Battery life
-faster boot up
-can be faster to put together.
-Easier to connect your vogue with android to your pc and sync
-Much more convenient.
So how do I start?
STEP1:
The Build
First you need to find a Build that is usable with NAND. Most Hero builds at this moment are not. Here are some links:
Donut 1.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
Hero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028
Cupcake 1.5
Method 1 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING JUST YET! I WILL TELL YOU WHEN A GOOD TIME WOULD BE
You may want to consider reading the rest...
STEP2:
Base Files (Most builds will supply these)
For all builds (Except the Link in Cupcake "instructions are givin in the download.) you will need a basic set of base files. The link below contains the 3 basic empty files for all builds and Systems.
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/Androidstuff.rar
IF
You are using Hero make sure you download hero.user.conf too:
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/hero.user.conf
-create a new folder called conf
-and place hero.user.conf in your new folder.
STEP3:
Rootfs
After you have the Base files you will need a rootfs. Depending on your Build, you may need a different type then the one I am going to supply you. Most builds will supply you with one. This one is DZO's rootfs.
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/rootfs.img
STEP4:
Prepare
-You need to clean out your storage on your SD. Make sure you delete everything.
-Create a file called android on your desktop.
-Download the base files, unzip, open folder, and place all 3 in your android folder
-Download the rootfs and place them in your android folder. Make sure you either download DZO's or the one your Build provides.
-Download a System.img. When you download a System most likely it will have a different name such as system-hero-123.img. You need to rename it system. So it should look like system.img . Then place it in your android folder.
-If you are using Hero place your conf folder in your android folder.
-Depending on your Build (mostly Hero) you may also need a Data file. The build you select should supply one. Download it and place it in your Android Folder
STEP5
Placing
Open up your android folder of all your collected files and select all, copy, and paste into your empty SD card.
STEP6
Unlocking
If you have never flashed a ROM before than you don't have HardSPL installed. So unlock your phone with...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
Make sure you follow the forums directions.
STEP7
Method
Method1: The way I do it.
Download ROMUpdateUtility.rar
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/ROMUpdateUtility.rar
Extract to a newfolder
Download a kernel with your screen size
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
Don't know your screen size...check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544906
After you have have gotten the kernel:
rename it to RUU_signed and place it in the ROMUpdateUtility folder you created.
NOW you need to plug your phone into your computer. Establish active sync. And run ROMUpdateUtility.
-Follow the Instructions on the screen.
Method 2 and 3 can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
This also shows my method...but a little less detail. You can also find many other helpful things there.
If you fail OR think your bricked your phone.
You will need to download one of these depending on your carrier...Make sure you download the shipped gps rom. (If you are Verizon skip down)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=191607
Than you will put your phone in boot mode. Hold the Camera and Power button. While holding both of them...get a pen or something small and hit the little restart button on the bottom of your phone. You may have to hold it for like a second.
-you will see three color bars on your phone
-plug your phone into your computer
-run the backup
After your phone is all back to normal. Make sure you run internet explore on your phone. It will enable you to get data.
For Verizon follow the instructions here.
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
That is about it. I'm sure I forgot some stuff and will add on to this. Make sure you donate to the Devs for all their hard work.
DZO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
jamezelle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028
plemen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
vilord
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523692
They deserve it.

thank you this was very helpful

inphin1ty said:
thank you this was very helpful
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No problem...

yea here is the md5sum: 9b08971e7f23619b6a9a4db9d52d857a

jamezelle said:
yea here is the md5sum: 9b08971e7f23619b6a9a4db9d52d857a
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Whats that?

staud8469 said:
What are the benefits of running from NAND? (based on what I have seen)
1 Runs faster
2 Longer Battery life
3 faster boot up
4 can be faster to put together.
5 Easier to connect your vogue with android to your pc and sync
6 Much more convenient.
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great thread. I've run both from nand and sdcard. i have not messed with ext2 on the sdcard.
I agree with 3 for sure. I would also add that there is a deep gratification in wiping win mo off the sdcard
6 is debatable, depends on which conveniences you want. changing lcd.density, changing resolution are all much faster running from the sdcard - no flashing or messing with build.prop, just edit default.txt and reboot (aside - if you have a non-sdhc card you can flash on the fly from the sdcard, but changing lcd.density still requires pulling and pushing files from the system, which is not as easy as changing the default.txt). also more convenient to back-up or revert to a data.img when running from sdcard. definitely booting straight into android is convenient, as is the new mass storage on boot method, as well as having a re-writable system (which you also have using ext2).
1 and 2, I honestly have not noted a significant difference in battery life. With a fast sdcard, I don't think there is a significant difference in speed either - dzo has said this in one of the non-vogue forums as well. i have not tried any sense builds from the sdcard though, and that's where you would notice the greatest difference in speed if there is any.
4 I agree with in general.
I think running from the nand is a huge advance, and great for everyone to try. but, running from the sdcard is still a decent way to use android. choosing between the two comes down to choosing which conveniences suit your usage style the most.
One last thing - please add vilord to your donate links (his google ion on vogue thread), he has been instrumental in developing the ril and advancing android on the vogue. srwalter also deserves mention for his reverse engineering of the libgps.so to bring gps first to cupcake and now to donut as well. jamezelle, plemen, mssmison, zenulator, enatefox, f00bar (no specific order) have all worked hard porting roms and working on things like compcache, swap, modem, etc, which has all been invaluable (zenulator and mssmison deserve special credit for spearheading the porting business). however the gruntwork of porting to the vogue has been done mainly by dzo who brought us the kernel and initial ril and now nand (he's just frickin amazing, he singlehandedly got the first functioning port to the vogue and others helped from there), then vilord who took the ril and really refined it. I guess suffice to say, there have been a lot of people involved along the way, thanks to all of them.

when i try to run android from both nand and haret i always get an error about not being able to mount sd card. does this mean i need to reformat the card? if so how do i do this?

Barogi44 said:
when i try to run android from both nand and haret i always get an error about not being able to mount sd card. does this mean i need to reformat the card? if so how do i do this?
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When do you get this error? During linux kernel bootup?

Verizon users.
I just update a fix for Verizon users. Shows you how to get GPS too!

Also...there will be a video up soon. It seems that there are so many people having issues. So I will create a video from start to finish. Will be posted up late tonight/ tomorrow morning.

staud8469 said:
When do you get this error? During linux kernel bootup?
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Yea.. i think i may need a new sd card. Can android boot from a 4gb card or is 2 the max?

Barogi44 said:
Yea.. i think i may need a new sd card. Can android boot from a 4gb card or is 2 the max?
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i running with a 8gig PNY sdcard
it could theoretically run off of a 512, but you would be a little cramped on space
i guess android doesnt like some of them

so really it doesn't matter how big the card is? do they all have to be formatted to fat32?

Barogi44 said:
so really it doesn't matter how big the card is? do they all have to be formatted to fat32?
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short answer, yes.

Hey guys...I will try my best to get that video up today. I am about to start recording it.

Am I correct in assuming that step 4-b is create a FOLDER name android on the desktop?
Can I delete those files from the SD when flashing is done?
THANK YOU for the N00B instruction, works great.

stopthebus said:
Am I correct in assuming that step 4-b is create a FOLDER name android on the desktop?
Can I delete those files from the SD when flashing is done?
THANK YOU for the N00B instruction, works great.
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Yes that is correct, as for deleting the files...I would assume you could. But im not sure. Maybe they are still needed on boot. Never hurts to try though.

im not getting access to the internet after i flashed, am i suppose to edit anything?
im running the donut flash on my sprint vogue.

gigermunit said:
im not getting access to the internet after i flashed, am i suppose to edit anything?
im running the donut flash on my sprint vogue.
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Wait...NVM you want data to work right?

If you are using donut...try to restart your phone one time. After it boots back up you should see a 3g symbol appear on the notification bar.
If that does not work...go to your apps and open modem. Click once on disconnect and then once more. Then click connect.
Tell me if that works...

debian on 1.6 issues

i have been researching this for a couple days; has anyone succesfully configured debian on 1.6 donut?from what ive gathered there are known issues with debian and 1.6. i keep going in circles trying to figure this out. i have used this site(and many others) in my research:
http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/22/install-linux-on-your-g1/
i keep getting lots of errors about line not found and debian goes into reboot cycles
TY

Check the link in my signature, I have a method that works well with 1.6.

that seems like a nice tutorial except i was wondering if you could make it so i could have a gui with ur method (i currently have an image on fat32 part) ?
lxde would be good if it worked smooth. also u mentiond apps like firefox and aircrack will work... have u tested or are u jus geussing, also is there anyway that you couldd modify amonra's recovery so that there would be 1 more option that you could nativly boot into debian like in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&page=29

cloverdale said:
Check the link in my signature, I have a method that works well with 1.6.
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where are the attached scripts? am i overlooking them? TY

olvap377 said:
that seems like a nice tutorial except i was wondering if you could make it so i could have a gui with ur method (i currently have an image on fat32 part) ?
lxde would be good if it worked smooth. also u mentiond apps like firefox and aircrack will work... have u tested or are u jus geussing, also is there anyway that you couldd modify amonra's recovery so that there would be 1 more option that you could nativly boot into debian like in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&page=29
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You can setup a GUI yourself if that is what you want, but I personally like terminal based Linux, so I see no need to spend countless hours doing such. As far as the other apps working, of course they will work, they run on debian. The issue is whether you want to give up valuable resources to try and run firefox on a G1 (it is something you would do just to say you did it, not for practicality). Aircrack will run, but you still need to work on the kernel to have it actually crack (people are working on it).
lokeycmos said:
where are the attached scripts? am i overlooking them? TY
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You probably need to register with the particular forum it is posted on.

New boot screen for mt3g...

About me:
I have a mytouch3g running cyanogenmod 5.0.7ds
I have a mac, so most (pretty much all) of the boot screen instructions won't work for me.
The questions I have:
How can I change the boot screens on my mt3g
I found a .png that is awesome and I want to make it my first boot screen, how can I differentiate which boot screen I am changing?
Is there a less complex way of changing a boot screen than have been described? like a simple flash from recovery or something?

search button = answers

That doesnt help. i've read all the post about it already and they are all for windows, linux and the g1. none of which I have.

...A little help
If you have the Android SDK installed on your Mac... (which you should already have done) Kick your phone into "Fastboot" (I.E. Power+Back Button) From your Mac... Open up CMD line, and follow the same instructions you found for windows. Its really no different. As, long as you have properly installed the SDK and USB Drivers on your Mac. Hope this helps.

Also...
Read this post for the instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467693

Okay... I've installed Android SDK, I followed the instructions in the Cyanogenmod Wiki, and on the Android SDK website, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to run the SDK. I have Eclipse classic installed, but i'm just utterly confused. Can someone give me a description of how it's supposed to look or what i'm supposed to do or how I can get it up and running. I really need help with this.

bchsun said:
Okay... I've installed Android SDK, I followed the instructions in the Cyanogenmod Wiki, and on the Android SDK website, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to run the SDK. I have Eclipse classic installed, but i'm just utterly confused. Can someone give me a description of how it's supposed to look or what i'm supposed to do or how I can get it up and running. I really need help with this.
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Easy fix to all this. Take your desired boot screen and place it on your sd card. DO NANDROID BACKUP. Use Root explorer and copy and paste that bootanimation.zip into system/media folder and then reboot. Thats all there is to it
EDIT: Oh im sorry. Just noticed you want the boot IMAGE not the Boot animation. Sorry

I asked this same question about two days ago but put it in the android themes section. So far every response i have gotten has not worked. I know how to flash the splash screen when i get the correct image file, but my problem has been finding a way to change a .png or.jpg image into a .rgb565 image file. Every topic on xda that tells you how to do this requires a .exe program which me and you both know we can't run on mac without paying 50+ dollars for an extra program. I continue to look but so far the only solution i have come up with is to borrow a friends windows computer to convert my pictures. Unfortunately i just moved to a new city and don't know anyone with a windows computer. best of luck to you.

[webtop] webtop2sd discussion (currently version 2.0.1)

Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.

great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).

I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.

These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!

i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?

I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?

I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin

Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)

Looks great, thanks for the hard work

Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.

n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
Djazin said:
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.

everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..

Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin

dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10

n1ckr0th said:
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?

PAulyhoffman said:
32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.

Sogarth said:
Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night

Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)

I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......

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I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.

Q: NOOB Friendly Instructions for Linux please?

Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister

Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister
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I know your a noob that's cool I was in that boat before. but I usually search before I come to a forum and ask questions because 9 out of 10 times this has been asked before. If you knew Linux can get on the touchpad then there's already posts about it. If you cant find it on the forum its simple as opening up your web browser and googling it.
http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app

Hi hovax615,
Thanks for your quick reply / help... I'm a noob when it comes to HP Touchpad Development, and the tweaks/tricks of the Touchpad world.. But not a noob when it comes to Computers / Android... as I work in IT, as a Support Technician for many years...
I've done my fair share of searching the forums, both here, and other boards and info on native Linux seems very thin on the ground. When I ask on here, get very little replies... And the threads that were created by the OP just list the files to download, with very little instruction on how to use them. I've tried to follow them best I can, and so far all what Ive tried do not work!! I've used MoBoot (or whatever its called), Kexec, NSBoot and SmackMe2, all to no avail....
Due to the storage restrictions of Touchpad, I've even swapped files around in the \Boot partition to allow for SmackMe2 to reside in its limited space. I've ran the programmes they suggest installs Linux, and it goes all through the motions, but nothing is visible or boots afterwards. I can multi-boot between WebOS and Android straight forward enough, but nothing seems to work with Linux...
Thanks for your suggestion on CHroot, and someone else suggested that in a previous thread... But from my understanding, isnt that an Emulated environment? It boots/runs from within either WebOS or Android?? From what I've seen on these forums, is that you can get Ubuntu 11 / 12 or even 13 to boot natively from its own partition via MoBoot or Kexec...
I dont like the looks of Ubuntu 13 ported to Touchpad based on its dark theme GUI, hence why I am trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 working...
So what I'm really after, is instructions to get Linux to install from a fresh WebOS install... Do I use SmackMe2 or NSBoot to install it?? And then do I load it with either MoBoot or Kexec?? I've only ever had it listed in Kexec loader once, and even then it didnt boot...
Any idea's on the above methods welcomed please... I'm trying with Ubuntu 12.10 with this file "TouchPadBuntuRootfs1210v2.tar.gz" which is around 600Mb large... and it installs, but nothing boots afterwards, other than WebOS or Android...
Many thanks, Lister

https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
Forget the above/below question, I found out that all the files need to just go directly in the root of USB storage, and not require a (internal) folder on MEDIA partition.
Well all has gone reasonably well this time. I now have MoBoot with both WebOS and Ubuntu....
WebOS loads flawlessly... However Ubuntu loads the pre-boot kernel (all the writing.......) and then reboots to MoBoot loader.... I have re-ran the Kernel script, so I dont keep loosing chunks of 4GB storage... but still fails to boot Ubuntu (other than loader). Any idea's...???
Many thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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I'd say do a fresh start again. And run it this way.
http://www.techwarelabs.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-hp-touchpad/
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Hi hovax615,
No need now, as I got it to fully install and boot up last night...
I'd just like to say a BIG THANKS to Hovax615, who has helped me to install Ubuntu onto the HP Touchpad... and for not giving up, and offering other way's to install it...
To anyone else wanting to install Ubuntu, and having problems... I suggest not using SmackMe2, Kexec or NSBoot as they do not work!! I'm sure they prolly do, but with no instructions included with those tools, and lack of feedback from anyone... I have given up on them!
The method that Hovax615 mentioned in his (code.google.com/) link works a treat, and is fairly easy to follow... My advice, DO read what it says on screen... The problem i had with the OS not loading was because I didnt read an obscure message that said press "1 or 0".... other than that, smooth as anything...
Only problem I have now, is that the graphic/screen is garbaged... Pretty sure its just drive related, so will wipe this build and install a new build, maybe even 13.04 (just dont like the black theme). And the WiFi commands dont work, only the first line does.... Other than that, very impressed with Ubuntu on Touchpad...
Thanks, Lister

I've never installed Ubuntu myself but I was so glad to help to get you to be able to install Ubuntu. I'm thinking about doing the same today and installing it. Might need a little help also
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Hi hovax615,
Oh right, sure go for it... Its actually really cool once you got it all installed (WebOS, Android and Ubuntu).... And I fully recomend you do it via the original link to you sent me (Code.Google.Com/xxxxxxx) rather than the CHroot method. From my understanding, CHroot is emulated and not native, and not only that, it looks more complicated...
The guide I followed was a breeze, so so simple.... Basically, the only bit that got me confused was the Media / Internal as Ive seen the MASS STORAGE part called Media before. But never seen it called Media / Internal and so thought you had to create a folder at the root of Media, called Internal... But you dont!!! Just dump all the files at the root of that folder... and then copy the commands.
When running the commands, look to see what it says on the screen... I ignored where it said "Press 1 if xyz happened, or Press 0 if xyz didnt happen"... and so pressing [Enter] caused it to fail, as it didnt really install. But if you read it, and press the right key, which I think was 0 followed by 1, then it all installs fine....
I have a problem with the graphics on Ubuntu, which could either be bad install (gonna try a re-install), or try the newer 13.04 (over 12.10 that I currently have).
But sure, if ya get stuck, let me know.... and thanks once again for pointing that link out, and for helping...
Lister

Okay so I got Ubuntu 13.04 e17 working on my touchpad vis the smackme2 method not the method i gave you because i tried and it would execute it properly. I'm not familiar with Linux or Ubuntu. I'm having a hard time trying to connect to the internet
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Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister

Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister
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It shouldn't have had an effect using the older ones you just have to download the proper things
uImage.kexec" and the "kexec-<OSNAME>.tar along with moboot and whatever os your going to use on a clean install. Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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...Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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Bottom right corner, blank space next to the OnBoard icon. Hit that, and it will ask which access point to connect to.