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Hi men.
Let's talk here about running Ubuntu on our blackstones.
Right now we can boot Ubuntu arm on our blackstones, based on the 'omnibuntu' files. it seems to work well but screen calibration is still difficult...
you can find useful links on the last pages of the android thread (i'm on my blackstone right now and it's difficult to copy and paste all the links) but let's leave the android thread for android...
let's see how far we can get from now
FIRST I WANT TO SAY BIG THANKS FOR THOSE WHO HAD MADE GREAT WORK TO BUILD BLACKSTONE LINUX KERNEL!
WITHOUT IT THIS TREE IS NOT TO BE POSSIBLE.
Here is lidle howto because make lidle bit sense to boot ubuntu.
1.First you have to make partitions to your memory card.(WARNING!!!!!! IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU MAY LOSE YOUR DATA)
-start ubuntu live cd 9.04 in your pc wich you find here:http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ (I think that everyone can burn iso image to cd, but if not just ask)
-in your blackstone go Start-Settings-Connections-USB to PC and select Disk Drive (If you want use activesync you have to change it back to ActiveSync)
-connect your blackstone to pc and make partitions with those instructions witch found here:http://linuxomnia.sourceforge.net/Howto.pdf
2.Second you have to put ubuntu files write places.
-download attachs (fatfiles.zip) and extract to first partition
-download omniubuntu-rootfs.tar.gz here:http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxomnia/files/ and extract it and put files to second partition
3.Boot.
-in blackstone filemanager go to storage card and start haret
-select run and ubuntu will boot
-as fast as you can, move the keyboard lidle bit down because until you can`t calibrate the screen
-when it seems to stop buuting is time calibrate screen
-tap first up left to screen and move up the cross and let off, next make same up right, down right, down left and middle of the screen
This is how i get it works(First i only tap the screen.Second tap i let and hold stylus on the sceen and move it up the cross.In the same way i do to top right....ec.)
-one more tap and that is it
AND AS USUALLY ALWAYS IT IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start debian installer
You can run debian install by downloading one iso from:http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/arm/iso-cd/ and extract it to second partition wich is ext2 and put attachs and initrd.gz in first partition wich is fat.Initrrd.gz you will find here:http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/versatile/netboot/
Also put vmlinuz in second ext2 partition and after all boot installation with haret.I am not yet finished installation.
You can extract iso file with 7zip.
You have nearly 400 views and only 2 replies. I feel that if you are going to keep this thread alive and vibrant with lots of posts you need to layout exactly what it is you are doing because a large number of people have no idea what this is all about and why they should get involved.
Then give very detailed and straight forward instruction on how to install such software, but make the instruction idiot proof.
Consider a description or screenshots to help people grasp your concept.
Thanks and good luck as whatever it is you are doing sounds interesting.
hi sakkeus.
very interesting, thanks!
a couple of questions:
-which initrd were you using with ubuntu?
-can we use the same ubuntu partitions to run debian?
thanks!
let's keep trying and testing
Heefy said:
You have nearly 400 views and only 2 replies. I feel that if you are going to keep this thread alive and vibrant with lots of posts you need to layout exactly what it is you are doing because a large number of people have no idea what this is all about and why they should get involved.
Then give very detailed and straight forward instruction on how to install such software, but make the instruction idiot proof.
Consider a description or screenshots to help people grasp your concept.
Thanks and good luck as whatever it is you are doing sounds interesting.
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I am myself still checkin out how to use linux in blackstone.
I will make sense instructions abaut what i get out, but it takes lidle time.
kingofslide54 said:
hi sakkeus.
very interesting, thanks!
a couple of questions:
-which initrd were you using with ubuntu?
-can we use the same ubuntu partitions to run debian?
thanks!
let's keep trying and testing
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None initrd to fat partition.All system files are in second ext2 partition except zimage default.txt and haret.
I think that debian installation needs more room in ext2, but otherwise same parts.
sakkeus11 said:
None initrd to fat partition.All system files are in second ext2 partition except zimage default.txt and haret.
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thanks, sakkeus, but when I try to launch ubuntu using your default, haret says 'couldnt find initrd'. when I remove the initrd line from the default, ubuntu boots well (excepting the screen calibration) so I think ext2 files are ok.that's why I asked.
if it works it would be interesting to see if anyone can get Maemo to work on the hd it's the same os used on the Nokia N900 and heavily based on Linux
yes, Heefy is right!
everything sounds interesting,but i know just a little about linux.
can u explain us?
thanx
3lixir said:
if it works it would be interesting to see if anyone can get Maemo to work on the hd it's the same os used on the Nokia N900 and heavily based on Linux
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That would be very nice!!
Ubuntu MID
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
kingofslide54 said:
thanks, sakkeus, but when I try to launch ubuntu using your default, haret says 'couldnt find initrd'. when I remove the initrd line from the default, ubuntu boots well (excepting the screen calibration) so I think ext2 files are ok.that's why I asked.
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Did you really get fat files from this thread second post because i just chek the default text wich is there and there in no initrd.
I think you should redownload fatfiles from second post.
kingofslide54 said:
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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Yeah!....................
wow!
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sakkeus11 said:
Did you really get fat files from this thread second post because i just chek the default text wich is there and there in no initrd.
I think you should redownload fatfiles from second post.
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You're right... can't understand why, coz I downloaded the files from the phone itself and overwrote everything... I'll try again.
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Yeah!....................
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Yeah!!!!!
I found it looking for a good on-screen keyboard, wondering if I should code one... but this looks better
Found something than can be useful.
Once in the ubuntu desktop, if you press 'ctrl+alt+del', go to console mode and type 'exit', you go back to the calibration screen.
kingofslide54 said:
Found something than can be useful.
Once in the ubuntu desktop, if you press 'ctrl+alt+del', go to console mode and type 'exit', you go back to the calibration screen.
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This would be useful because it maybe not go well first time.
sakkeus11 said:
This would be useful because it maybe not go well first time.
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Well, in fact, I wasn't able to get it well till now but I'll keep trying
kingofslide54 said:
Hi, sakkeus.
What do you thing about trying ubuntu MID edition?
Pics here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
It is distributed as an image file, but if you know how to install it (and which image would be the best) I can give it a try.
Images here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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I have been tried install ubuntu MID edition, but as like debian it not found install files because there is no internet connection.Needed get internet connection works or some how load install files from storage.
Thought now might be a good time to split these topics up since Diamond/Raph/Blackstone/etc. users are now frequent users of Android and are now jumping on the theme bandwagon..
I am currently using Open Home but am anxious to know how far we can customize and get similar results to the native android users who are using different methods for loading themes.
Thanks!
I don't know if those phones have the same res as the authentic andros so this area should remain as is.
Most themes here are flashed via recovery mode or use Metamorph which may or may not work or the non-Android phones atm.
Ace42 said:
I don't know if those phones have the same res as the authentic andros so this area should remain as is.
Most themes here are flashed via recovery mode or use Metamorph which may or may not work or the non-Android phones atm.
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metamorph works
jamezelle said:
metamorph works
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Care to note what differences are for Winmo - Android users knowing many run off Storage cards?
Thanks
+1 for me id love to get my hands on Darkstar or OreoD
Android is running fine on my TP so why woudnt it work metamorph is an app right?
id love to try it but i dont get it how to metamorph...
Mr_stickz said:
+1 for me id love to get my hands on Darkstar or OreoD
Android is running fine on my TP so why woudnt it work metamorph is an app right?
id love to try it but i dont get it how to metamorph...
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I think that is my main question.. Since our whole OS is on the storage cards and not embedded in the phone memory, can we (Winmo-android users) swap some files and load haret, or are we not able to perform certain functions which would be required to load some of these new awesome themes?
If there are seperate steps needed to add metamorph or any other hacks to work on XDAndroid, perhaps a new section for winmo users might avoid confusion down the line? (Raph - Diam - Blackstone, etc) are almost daily users of Android and would hopefully be able to have a similar experience to the "native" users.
MetaMorph
I have to agree with the people with Android on WM Phones...
I have scowerd the forums for hours trying to make this Metamorph work cuz I like alot that it has to offer, but I got this error talkin bout "make sure enough space in /system and that busybust is insalled".
I don't know where to look for info they have a forum on blackston android but there ain't nothin really relivant to my problem.
To be honest I don't how much of the stuff will work on a hybrid phone, my android seems too work pretty good so that would lead me to beleive most of the stuff would work that is develped for a root android.
Imma keep lookin
WinMo phones or otherwise these themes will work on them the same way they work on the true Android devices. If the ROM developer did things correctly, there should be 0 issues.
I've got 9 of what I would consider the best themes working on my Warm Donut ROM for the Vogue, Kaiser and Polaris WinMo phones.
No need to differentiate.
Metamorph
myn said:
WinMo phones or otherwise these themes will work on them the same way they work on the true Android devices. If the ROM developer did things correctly, there should be 0 issues.
I've got 9 of what I would consider the best themes working on my Warm Donut ROM for the Vogue, Kaiser and Polaris WinMo phones.
No need to differentiate.
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I have been having problems getting metamorph to work on my raphael... everytime I start metamorph and let go threw the intial configuration I get a error saying to "make sure enough room in /system and that busybox is intalled". I tryed using the terminal emulator to install busybox. I don't know if it worked or not.
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I have been having problems getting metamorph to work on my raphael... everytime I start metamorph and let go threw the intial configuration I get a error saying to "make sure enough room in /system and that busybox is intalled". I tryed using the terminal emulator to install busybox. I don't know if it worked or not.
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Do you have write permissions to /system ?
Is your sqsh file on an ext2 partition or is it on the fat partition (in the same dir as haret)?
Metamorph
myn said:
Do you have write permissions to /system ?
Is your sqsh file on an ext2 partition or is it on the fat partition (in the same dir as haret)?
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The enitre OS is on the root of my sd card...
someone told me that the /system file is read only and it can't be modified inside android...
Is your Android OS on your device memory or your sd card??
ReppinFlorida said:
The enitre OS is on the root of my sd card...
someone told me that the /system file is read only and it can't be modified inside android...
Is your Android OS on your device memory or your sd card??
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On Vogue you are able to either run it via SD Card from the fat partition, from an EXT2 partition or via NAND.
Both the EXT2 partition and NAND methods allow access to system.
Until EXT2/NAND support is ported for your device, MetaMorph will not work.
Only manually injected rom themes will be supported unfortunately .
my old friends..
Ahh my good ol winmo friends. Back in the day when I had a tilt I ran android then when zenulator stopped deving. My advice is to learn about metamorph and how to use it to create metamorphs. That way you can take apart various flashable themes and use metamorph to port the themes over to your device.
Ok so here's this application that I made in Automator for myself and I figured that if anyone wants it, it's here. This is a Mac OS X only app. What does this app do? It wipes the data and dalvik cache on the phone twice. It is quite quick and easy. What will you need to do to your Mac before running this application? You simply need to add adb to the .bash_profile path settings. (This means that from anywhere in terminal, you can type adb and run adb.) Then just put your phone into recovery mode and run this app. This is an alpha build as I have not tried it on my own phone yet. However it should work as I've coded it and it has NO potential to brick the phone
Download Here!
EDIT: Currently the program is not working, I will make a new one and upload ASAP.
CPCookieMan said:
Ok so here's this application that I made in Automator for myself and I figured that if anyone wants it, it's here. This is a Mac OS X only app. What does this app do? It wipes the data and dalvik cache on the phone twice. It is quite quick and easy. What will you need to do to your Mac before running this application? You simply need to add adb to the .bash_profile path settings. (This means that from anywhere in terminal, you can type adb and run adb.) Then just put your phone into recovery mode and run this app. This is an alpha build as I have not tried it on my own phone yet. However it should work as I've coded it and it has NO potential to brick the phone
Download Here!
EDIT: Currently the program is not working, I will make a new one and upload ASAP.
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Nice job CP... with a little editing, could I get this to work on Linux?
workshed said:
Nice job CP... with a little editing, could I get this to work on Linux?
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Hmmm, thats a good question. (I'm just hopping in with what I know, so OP feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.)
From what I know, Automator is basically a workflow creation/utilization program. Do most Linux distros come packaged with anything like that, or does one exist?
This might be an alternative:
"GNU Xnee is a suite of programs that can record, replay and distribute user actions under the X11 environment. Think of it as a robot that can imitate the job you just did."
http://askubuntu.com/questions/343/alternative-for-mac-os-x-automator
Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.
great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).
I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.
These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)
Looks great, thanks for the hard work
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
Djazin said:
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin
dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night
Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)
I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.
Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Please can ANYONE just jot down step by step the instructions/route they took to install Linux as part of their dual / triple boot setup please...? I have tried to follow the posts, to no avail. The instructions that come with SmackMe2 or Kexec are brief by means... I've copied them to the \Boot partition, until it says no space... And hence my other posts, related about increasing Boot Partition, and the likes...
I've now ended up with a bricked Touchpad, TWICE!!! Last brick was so bad, had to re-partition it and everything... Meant I couldnt take it away on holiday as I planned.
So please, if you can... can you list the exact way to go about getting Ubuntu Linux 12.04 + Android, as well as WebOS installed please...
And do we really need all of: NSBoot / SmackMe2 / Kexec / MemBoot / others....??
Thanks, Lister
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I know your a noob that's cool I was in that boat before. but I usually search before I come to a forum and ask questions because 9 out of 10 times this has been asked before. If you knew Linux can get on the touchpad then there's already posts about it. If you cant find it on the forum its simple as opening up your web browser and googling it.
http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
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Hi hovax615,
Thanks for your quick reply / help... I'm a noob when it comes to HP Touchpad Development, and the tweaks/tricks of the Touchpad world.. But not a noob when it comes to Computers / Android... as I work in IT, as a Support Technician for many years...
I've done my fair share of searching the forums, both here, and other boards and info on native Linux seems very thin on the ground. When I ask on here, get very little replies... And the threads that were created by the OP just list the files to download, with very little instruction on how to use them. I've tried to follow them best I can, and so far all what Ive tried do not work!! I've used MoBoot (or whatever its called), Kexec, NSBoot and SmackMe2, all to no avail....
Due to the storage restrictions of Touchpad, I've even swapped files around in the \Boot partition to allow for SmackMe2 to reside in its limited space. I've ran the programmes they suggest installs Linux, and it goes all through the motions, but nothing is visible or boots afterwards. I can multi-boot between WebOS and Android straight forward enough, but nothing seems to work with Linux...
Thanks for your suggestion on CHroot, and someone else suggested that in a previous thread... But from my understanding, isnt that an Emulated environment? It boots/runs from within either WebOS or Android?? From what I've seen on these forums, is that you can get Ubuntu 11 / 12 or even 13 to boot natively from its own partition via MoBoot or Kexec...
I dont like the looks of Ubuntu 13 ported to Touchpad based on its dark theme GUI, hence why I am trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 working...
So what I'm really after, is instructions to get Linux to install from a fresh WebOS install... Do I use SmackMe2 or NSBoot to install it?? And then do I load it with either MoBoot or Kexec?? I've only ever had it listed in Kexec loader once, and even then it didnt boot...
Any idea's on the above methods welcomed please... I'm trying with Ubuntu 12.10 with this file "TouchPadBuntuRootfs1210v2.tar.gz" which is around 600Mb large... and it installs, but nothing boots afterwards, other than WebOS or Android...
Many thanks, Lister
https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation
Here's one to follow if you didn't see this
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Hi hovax615,
Forget the above/below question, I found out that all the files need to just go directly in the root of USB storage, and not require a (internal) folder on MEDIA partition.
Well all has gone reasonably well this time. I now have MoBoot with both WebOS and Ubuntu....
WebOS loads flawlessly... However Ubuntu loads the pre-boot kernel (all the writing.......) and then reboots to MoBoot loader.... I have re-ran the Kernel script, so I dont keep loosing chunks of 4GB storage... but still fails to boot Ubuntu (other than loader). Any idea's...???
Many thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi hovax615,
I think I saw that one a while ago, but have over looked it since... It looks perfect, and seems fairly straight forward to run, and is exactly what I need...
One quick question, when it says root of Media, (media, refering to SD Card mounting). Do I...
\Media\ (place all files here just in the root)
or,
\Media\Internal\ (create a folder called, "Internal" at root level, and place all files within this folder?)
After that, it should be fairly straight forward, hopefully... and looks a lot better than other options, thank you...
Lister
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I'd say do a fresh start again. And run it this way.
http://www.techwarelabs.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-hp-touchpad/
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Hi hovax615,
No need now, as I got it to fully install and boot up last night...
I'd just like to say a BIG THANKS to Hovax615, who has helped me to install Ubuntu onto the HP Touchpad... and for not giving up, and offering other way's to install it...
To anyone else wanting to install Ubuntu, and having problems... I suggest not using SmackMe2, Kexec or NSBoot as they do not work!! I'm sure they prolly do, but with no instructions included with those tools, and lack of feedback from anyone... I have given up on them!
The method that Hovax615 mentioned in his (code.google.com/) link works a treat, and is fairly easy to follow... My advice, DO read what it says on screen... The problem i had with the OS not loading was because I didnt read an obscure message that said press "1 or 0".... other than that, smooth as anything...
Only problem I have now, is that the graphic/screen is garbaged... Pretty sure its just drive related, so will wipe this build and install a new build, maybe even 13.04 (just dont like the black theme). And the WiFi commands dont work, only the first line does.... Other than that, very impressed with Ubuntu on Touchpad...
Thanks, Lister
I've never installed Ubuntu myself but I was so glad to help to get you to be able to install Ubuntu. I'm thinking about doing the same today and installing it. Might need a little help also
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Hi hovax615,
Oh right, sure go for it... Its actually really cool once you got it all installed (WebOS, Android and Ubuntu).... And I fully recomend you do it via the original link to you sent me (Code.Google.Com/xxxxxxx) rather than the CHroot method. From my understanding, CHroot is emulated and not native, and not only that, it looks more complicated...
The guide I followed was a breeze, so so simple.... Basically, the only bit that got me confused was the Media / Internal as Ive seen the MASS STORAGE part called Media before. But never seen it called Media / Internal and so thought you had to create a folder at the root of Media, called Internal... But you dont!!! Just dump all the files at the root of that folder... and then copy the commands.
When running the commands, look to see what it says on the screen... I ignored where it said "Press 1 if xyz happened, or Press 0 if xyz didnt happen"... and so pressing [Enter] caused it to fail, as it didnt really install. But if you read it, and press the right key, which I think was 0 followed by 1, then it all installs fine....
I have a problem with the graphics on Ubuntu, which could either be bad install (gonna try a re-install), or try the newer 13.04 (over 12.10 that I currently have).
But sure, if ya get stuck, let me know.... and thanks once again for pointing that link out, and for helping...
Lister
Okay so I got Ubuntu 13.04 e17 working on my touchpad vis the smackme2 method not the method i gave you because i tried and it would execute it properly. I'm not familiar with Linux or Ubuntu. I'm having a hard time trying to connect to the internet
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Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Hovax615,
Yaaay, well done for getting Ubuntu installed... especially via SmackMe2!! Dont know why, but that didnt work at all for me?? Although I use using the older version of Ubuntu, whether that has anything to do with it??
Anyway, I'm not so keen on the new build (13.04) as I think the interface looks ugly on that build, I like the plain Ubuntu look/feel....
Yeah, I too am having problems with the WiFi on my older build too... I've typed in the commands to kick-start it, apparently... But even the commands don't work...
Gonna have another go at it tonight.... LOL
Cheers, Lister
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It shouldn't have had an effect using the older ones you just have to download the proper things
uImage.kexec" and the "kexec-<OSNAME>.tar along with moboot and whatever os your going to use on a clean install. Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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...Yeah I kind of was having a hard time navigating on 13.04 we'll both figure it out sooner or later about the WiFi situation.
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Bottom right corner, blank space next to the OnBoard icon. Hit that, and it will ask which access point to connect to.