Just a quick question, I'm thinking about getting a replacement watch today, since I (somehow) managed to get a huge gash in my screen, and I got the extended warranty. Before I get my replacement, I'd like to know if there have been any new bootloaders being shipped with new units that may be locked and prevent me from flashing ROMs or unlocking WiFi support.
Couldn't really find any resources on this. I highly doubt there is much point in LG locking down this watch, but it's certainly safer to ask now than regret it later.
Thanks!
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I understand that currently it cannot be relocked on it has been unlocked. But I would like to know why if anyone knows?
Would it be possible in the future?
And is there anyone working on this now?
There is no real reason to want to work on figuring it out.
The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases.
So no good reason to re-lock, and thus no real reason for devs to work hard on figuring it out.
Mine can be
Obviously that doesn't help you much though. To be able to lock it again, you need to know how to set S-OFF, which is something that (as it stands) can't be done.
Just wondering but if HTC honors the warranty on a phone with unlocked bootloader, why do the 2 different guides to rooting say one will void warranty (unlocking bootloader) and one will preserve the warranty (the one-click app)?
By law HTC can refuse to support but they are supporting for some strange reason. The disclaimers are there to warn that HTC could stop supporting at any time if they see unlocked bootloaders.
I think re-locking the bootloader is quite possible... the only problem at this point is... we don't know how... it could be a software or hardware hook, but ATM, no one knows...
And I don't believe anyone is eagerly trying to find this since HTC seems to be honouring hardware warranty even with unlocked bootloaders...
It is the price of doing business
Once the boot-loader is unlocked you can do things to your phone like over-clock the cpu or run the flash at super-bright for hours. In other words, you can do things that could damage your phone that would not be HTC's fault ... therefore they shouldn't be held liable.
So instead of just locking the phone down like most of the phones out there, HTC/Google give you a choice: Stay stock or unlock with one command. If you choose to unlock they they don't have to honour their warranty because you could be doing bad things to your phone.
The fact that they give us the choice is one of the reasons I bought this phone. The fact that they are honouring the warranties even when you unlock is extra nice of them.
Long story short: Unlocking is a sign that you've been messing with your phone and that is all it is. It is irreversible by design and there is no reason to reverse it.
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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My money is on a special hardware device that HTC uses that force-flashes the entire rom on the phone. With out the special hardware, I am betting there is no way to do it.
But like others said, who cares. There is no point in putting effort in to something so irrelevant.
That's what I assumed, 'til I noticed my phone was S-OFF after being repaired.
Looks like something along those lines, just got my device back yesterday from having the power button fixed and its locked again. now that we have one click root i can now load CM6 without unlocking it again.
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...The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases...
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
Yeah thee only reason would be to cheat my warranty. but im glad to here that HTC has been honoring a lot of your guy's warranty's anyways.
To be honest a lot of manufactures dont fix the product, they just give you a new one anyways. so they made not even notice. right now im having a hardware issue with the trackball (i bought it on eBay :[ ) and i want to send it in but idk if i should??
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
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Sorry to hear, for me it never came up as a question. With you, since both are broken they probably assumed it was caused by software and wrote you off.
I would say keep trying they should be at least let you send it in, and then let you know if it truly is out of your warranty and give you a price to fix.
New phone :d
Called HTC and got some of the best customer service of my life. Told them my trackball wasnt working properly anymore and they are sending me a brand new phone with next day shipping. Never asked once about it being unlocked.
So it seems as you guys are right, as long as it isnt an issue that could be caused my unlocking and messing with you phone they will still honor your warranty.
BEST THING THO...I get to keep the battery, and i bought my phone used for 450 and now im getting a brand new phone
Just so you know OP. I unlocked my Boot loader, but my phone had hardware problems. So I called them, they said they would send out a replacement, next day I cancelled it for reasons I am not going to get into detail over. Well they replacement arrived and my card hold was realized, so I got two nexus's Think I am going to call them and still send the bad one back anyways though.
Moral HTC is has superb warranty!
Possibly will be getting a i9000 soon(am in the UK).
I am comfortable with knowing that I will pretty much have to flash/root and otherwise mess with it to get the most out of it due to some software issues on Samsungs part. Am wondering though how easy is it to do a total factory restore on it to the extent that Samsung wont know ive been messing with it just in case I need to cover my tracks for warranty return reasons ?
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Possibly will be getting a i9000 soon(am in the UK).
I am comfortable with knowing that I will pretty much have to flash/root and otherwise mess with it to get the most out of it due to some software issues on Samsungs part. Am wondering though how easy is it to do a total factory restore on it to the extent that Samsung wont know ive been messing with it just in case I need to cover my tracks for warranty return reasons ?
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Recently my heaphone jack started malfunctioning so I called HTC and they said they would send me a replacement and as long as mine did not have any damage that was out of warranty, it would (basically) be free of charge. My phone should not have any physical damage that is out of warranty but I am wondering if, when they turn it on and see that it has been rooted, if that will fall under non-warranty damage.
Basically, i am about to return my phone for a new one, and am wondering if I should revert the phone back to stock and attempt to re-lock the bootloader or if it would even matter considering the problem I have is with the hardware?
You can't re-lock the bootloader but you can revert to stock. This guide should do the job.
Okay, thanks. I thought I had seen a thread about re-locking the bootloader at some point but I guess it must have been a work in progress or something. Plus, even though I searched before, I searched different terms after posting this and saw that a lot of people have returned their unlocked N1's and had no additional charges, as long as they reverted back to stock. So I guess that's what I will do. Really impressed with HTC's customer service!
(Would this thread be better for a more general forum?)
So I just bought the T813. I love it so far, but I really want to root this thing. Since that will irreversibly void the warranty, I want to get an insurance plan. I was thinking about SquareTrade Tablet Protection, but research yields extremely unclear results on whether or not they accept rooted/unlocked devices. (I know they wouldn't if I broke it because of rooting and such, but what about cracked screen, etc?)
I sort of have a double question. Does anyone have SquareTrade insurance on this device (any T7** or T8**), have it rooted, and have experience filing a claim (successfully or not)? Does anyone know of a cheap-ish service that they know for sure will replace customized devices if the issue isn't caused by the customization?
Simple question, simple answers:
Is this phone worth getting now for ~80€(~90$)?
What are the long term usage problems (if any)?
Should I go for a warranty if I plan to root and flash ROMs in the future?
Thx for answers
I think it is a very good buy if you are prepared to install custom rom on it, for me Lineage has been very good so far.
For people who are skilled in customization, is worth a lot!
Dont buy this now, there are many good offering from Xiaomi , Asus, Honor etc which are very good and has 3.5mm jack with expandible storage and solid software support. The people who have it now just are able to use it because of custom ROMs and kernels. Buy a newer smartphone.
Since you have intention of rooting and installing roms, you'd need to be able to unlock the bootloader.
Huawei/Honor has stopped their unlock service , you won't be able to put custom recovery/roms on these phones.
Phones like the Pixel,Nexus,Oneplus and LeEco allows the user to directly unlock the bootloader ,which is why we are able flash TWRP and AOSP,Lineage etc.
Whatever phone you intend to buy , you'll need to be able to unlock the bootloader before you can even start modding.If the bootloader cannot be unlocked , even getting root might not be possible.
I don't think it is worth buying now. I ordered one and it was rejected by china customs and sent back to BG. I cancelled my order and got a refund. A month later the phone shows up at my door! But.....the battery was DEAD flat and the phone was defective with a ghost touch which caused the phone to go crazy after a few minutes on stock .19 eui.
The company has been bankrupt for months and any phones being sold now are either old stock, rejects, refurbished returns, or phones built from recievership parts by some other factory in Shenzeng. No warranty, no ota, glitchy and bloated stock firmware. Not a bad phone but for a little more you can do better.
I have the same question, I'm thinking about getting it and install LineageOS right away. This phone seems very cheap for what it offers compared to others of the same price point, like the Redmi. Depending on when you're, no matter the brand you buy from these Chinese phones, there's no warranty anyway. If not this phone, what is the cheap alternative with good ROM development?
Le Pro 3/Le Max 2 with SD821/820 .
"Simple question, simple answers:"
Do not fool yourself, it is not a simple question. It depends what you expect to get from this phone.
Warranty? You want warranty from a bankrupt Chinese company?
Yeah, right.
If you look at this deal: https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones/f_max_d+eurPrice.80 and view it without pink glasses as a disposable item, then go for it; a better deal you won't find (provided there are NO additional costs of custom duty, S&H, etc.)
Once you root it and install a custom ROM, you gonna lose some features which are not present in any custom ROMs (reliable charging, GPS, airplane mode + programmable ON/OFF and alarm wake up from a HARD turned-off state).
But on the plus side, you get a normal UI, instead of that LeEco/LeTV EUI crappola.
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"Dont buy this now, there are many good offering from Xiaomi , Asus, Honor etc which are very good ...."
Tilt. Game over!
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/