Hello, i have an XT1058 ATT moto x i got 4.4.3 when i bought the bootloader was unlockable i did it using sunshine now i am on cm 12.1 nightlies. is it possible to revert to 4.4.4 without installing bootloader and if i get the lollipop update will it lock my bootloader again and if it does then will i be able to use sunshine to unlock it again ??
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Hello, i have an XT1058 ATT moto x i got 4.4.3 when i bought the bootloader was unlockable i did it using sunshine now i am on cm 12.1 nightlies. is it possible to revert to 4.4.4 without installing bootloader and if i get the lollipop update will it lock my bootloader again and if it does then will i be able to use sunshine to unlock it again ??
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all I know the Bootloader can not re unlock when you flash stock firmware or update OTA. So you dont need to relock BL after do anything ! Keep Bootloader Unlocked will help you custome your phone easier with root and more !
A certain thread called "[LOLLIPOP WARNING]Those Who Unlocked Via Sunshine or Purchasing a Code from China" says the following:
There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options of the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you unlocked via Sunshine or purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.
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There hasn't been any update on the thread since the 5.1 release for the Moto X, so if I were you I would wait... Sunshine has also a support line, so you could also send a ticket and directly ask if they can unlock your bootloader. I'm sure they have seen this case!
you had an xt1058 right ? you updated to 5.1, did your bootloader get relocked ?
It didn't, but I had a Rogers xt1058 that was BL unlocked directly by Motorola and not by Sunshine...
According to Motorola's website, at&t's Moto X cannot be BL unlocked officially, so that's probably why we cannot know what will happen if you update to 5.1.
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So I've just ordered an unlocked black 16gb Moto X from Amazon and would like to update it to 4.4.2 and get root access. I know there are a few guides and threads around but am confused as to which variant I'll have as all the guides seem to be carrier specific, and whether my bootloader will be unlocked or not...
Also, I think it'll come with 4.2.2. Should I go ahead and do the 4.4.2 OTA update, or will that make rooting more difficult? Can I root first then update?
I'm not entirely clueless about this kind of thing, having successfully rooted and installed custom firmware on previous android phones but this seems a little more complicated.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks!
If it's an unlockable bootloader, just take all the updates, unlock the bootloader, mfastboot your choice of recovery, boot immediately to recovery and root. Done.
Since its not a developer edition, unlocking your bootloader will void your warranty. You can request the unlock code directly from Moto's web site for free.
To root after your bootloader is unlocked, just follow this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
Once you get the code from Moto, you can unlock the bootloader at any point, no matter what rom is on your phone. But you might as well either take the OTA update or flash the 4.4.2 SBF to get to 4.4.2 on your phone, then unlock the bootloader and root. (unlocking the bootloader does factory reset the phone, and erases data and apps, so don't go nuts customizing the phone or installing apps until after you unlock the bootloader).
Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?
seebasso said:
Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?
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The SIM unlocked version can be bootloader unlocked.
Follow the instructions and steps to request the code at -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth once you hit the final submit button, your warranty will be voided.
Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?
seebasso said:
Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?
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Wrong. Rather than my re-typing... see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html
moto x xt1058 bootloader unlock Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
Which carrier variant do u have? If att, no. If other than att, yes...
amos700 said:
moto x xt1058 bootloader unlock Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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Look here
Sorry
mschumacher69 said:
Which carrier variant do u have? If att, no. If other than att, yes...
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I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
amos700 said:
I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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It depends on which xt1058 it is. If it's the at&t variant, u cannot unlock the bootloader. If it's any other non-us carrier, u can unlock the bootloader...
amos700 said:
I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web SIte. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers.
That is why you will see people ask what carrier.
One last note...
IF you get a 2013 X for ATT or Verizon, AND the phone is still on 4.4.2 or lower AND the bootloader is NOT 30.B7, you can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader.
NOTE: once the phone has 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 on it, you can NOT Safely downgrade it!!! And there is no way to downgrade the bootloader (even on Dev Edition models).
thanks i got the XT1058 ATT model but i am having bootloader BO.4 which is a good sign and i have android 4.4.2 so i can unlock with sunshine root. thanks for replying
Raj
you saved me form lots of regret my friend, i will keep cancelling updates until i can pay for sunshine. i have boot loader 30.b4 thanks a lot for your suggestion
Is there no other way to unlocked BL XT1058 ?
My previous phone is dead, but the data was backup via TitaniumBackup.
Without unlocked bl, i can not root... Without root, i can't restore my data via TitaniumBackup
*sigh* I guess i bought the wrong phone?
vashta said:
Is there no other way to unlocked BL XT1058 ?
My previous phone is dead, but the data was backup via TitaniumBackup.
Without unlocked bl, i can not root... Without root, i can't restore my data via TitaniumBackup
*sigh* I guess i bought the wrong phone?
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Correct. If you have an ATT XT1058, Sunshine was the only option to unlock the bootloader. And to use it, you needed to be on 4.4.2 or lower, and never had 4.4.4 or higher on your phone.
IF you have a Rogers Canada XT1058 or other non-ATT XT1058, you should be able to get your bootloader unlock code directly from Moto's web site.
KidJoe said:
Correct. If you have an ATT XT1058, Sunshine was the only option to unlock the bootloader. And to use it, you needed to be on 4.4.2 or lower, and never had 4.4.4 or higher on your phone.
IF you have a Rogers Canada XT1058 or other non-ATT XT1058, you should be able to get your bootloader unlock code directly from Moto's web site.
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My ATT XT1058 is on lollypop.
And i read its dangerous to downgrade my os.
Hmm... dead end for me, so far...
Hi, I am using VZW X with stock 4.4.2 and I would like to purchase BL unlock code from Sunshine tool. However I am not sure if this is permanent. So basically I have below questions:
1, If I flash stock 4.4.2 after unlocking BL using that tool, will my BL be locked again? (Flash BL with same version)
2, If I flash higher stock ROM like 4.4.4 or future Lollipop after unlocking BL using this tool, will my BL be locked again? (Flash BL with higher version)
My guessing to those would be no and yes. Thanks in advance for your time to read this or even kind enough to reply me
First off, the sunshine doesn't provide you with the unlock code. It unlocks it for you and that's all. OTA's and sbf's will not relock your bootloader <inert stock warning about never downgrading>. The only thing that will relock it is the explicit fastboot command. If you had the code you could unlock-relock-reunlock to your heart's content but I believe sunshine will only work to unlock the first time.
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First off, the sunshine doesn't provide you with the unlock code. It unlocks it for you and that's all. OTA's and sbf's will not relock your bootloader <inert stock warning about never downgrading>. The only thing that will relock it is the explicit fastboot command. If you had the code you could unlock-relock-reunlock to your heart's content but I believe sunshine will only work to unlock the first time.
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Thanks. Can I understand your word as after I purchase unlock from sunshine I can flash BL to current version or higher version and still keep it unlocked? And for your explicit command I believe you mean 'fastboot OEM lock', is it correct?
Yes. It has been posted recently a few times around this forum which bootloader codes correspond to which android version numbers. Always flash a matching or higher version to what you have and don't be tempted to get around that rule by only flashing parts of an sbf via fastboot. It's very risky and has bricked a lot of people's phones.
Yes, "fastboot oem lock" (or mfastboot oem lock) is the only way to end up with a relocked bootloader. Mind you that's "relocked". There is no way to go back to "locked" status to hide that you previously unlocked.
Remember that flashing SBFs and taking OTAs will unroot but you can always root again with an unlocked bl.
flaxton said:
Hi, I am using VZW X with stock 4.4.2 and I would like to purchase BL unlock code from Sunshine tool. However I am not sure if this is permanent. So basically I have below questions:
1, If I flash stock 4.4.2 after unlocking BL using that tool, will my BL be locked again? (Flash BL with same version)
2, If I flash higher stock ROM like 4.4.4 or future Lollipop after unlocking BL using this tool, will my BL be locked again? (Flash BL with higher version)
My guessing to those would be no and yes. Thanks in advance for your time to read this or even kind enough to reply me
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To expand and add a little to what @cntryby429 has already said..
Unlike the standard/official way of unlocking the bootloader (getting the code and issueing a fastboot oem unlock uniquecode), using Sunshine to unlock the bootloader is exploiting a vulnerability on the phone. To put it another way, Sunshine is a "hack." You do not get the bootloader unlock code. Because its a Hack, it only works ONE TIME. So if you unlock with sunshine, then relock later, you will not be able to unlock again.
When unlocking the official way (using the bootloader unlock code), flashing roms and newer SBFs and OTAs does not re-lock you. Re-locking is only possible by following the process and doing a Fastboot Oem Lock. All reports so far have been, that if you use Sunshine while on 4.4.2 or lower, flashing 4.4.4 SBF does not relock you. I don't know enough about Sunshine, and I haven't seen it been said, so I don't know what will happen if/when Lollipop comes to the 2013 X. i.e I've not seen it asked/answered... What if lollipop for the 2013 X contains patches for the vulnerability exploited by Sunshine, will it undo Sunshine's effects and will you be locked again?
As for the Downgrade warning, and bootloader versions...
30.70 = original 4.2.2
30.71 = 4.2.2 OTA with camera update
30.B2 = 4.4
30.B4 = 4.4.2
30.B7 = 4.4.4
and see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm
Hello,
I'm running a Verizon 2013 Moto X with its bootloader unlocked by SunShine. Will the Lollipop update that is getting pushed out relock the bootloader? I'm anxious about taking the update without knowing if there will be a way to root again afterward.
Thanks!
nickenzi said:
Hello,
I'm running a Verizon 2013 Moto X with its bootloader unlocked by SunShine. Will the Lollipop update that is getting pushed out relock the bootloader? I'm anxious about taking the update without knowing if there will be a way to root again afterward.
Thanks!
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they never relocked the bootloader with any other phones with updates like the razr hd so they probably wont on the x and its easy to root when you are unlocked just flash super su through a custom recovery
it did not relock my dev edition
nickenzi said:
Hello,
I'm running a Verizon 2013 Moto X with its bootloader unlocked by SunShine. Will the Lollipop update that is getting pushed out relock the bootloader? I'm anxious about taking the update without knowing if there will be a way to root again afterward.
Thanks!
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it will not relock it
carbonfybre
nickenzi said:
Hello,
I'm running a Verizon 2013 Moto X with its bootloader unlocked by SunShine. Will the Lollipop update that is getting pushed out relock the bootloader? I'm anxious about taking the update without knowing if there will be a way to root again afterward.
Thanks!
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How did you unlock via Sunshine? I'm on 4.4.4 and used Kingroot for temp root and sunshine tells me that my device is not compatible.
I took the update and it didn't relock it.
As for SunShine, i used it while I was on 4.4. I waited until I knew I could keep root to take 4.4.4.
I am on VZW non-DE 4.4.4 latest and it's wanting to update ... I don't have the bootloader unlocked and sunshine won't temp root last I tried ... is there any hope in staying on 4.4.4 in the case an exploit is found and 4.4.4 is needed before going to 5.1?
carbonfybre said:
How did you unlock via Sunshine? I'm on 4.4.4 and used Kingroot for temp root and sunshine tells me that my device is not compatible.
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I unlocked via sunshine earlier this year. I used the recovery image (version LPA23.12-39.7) to update to 5.1 rather than taking the OTA. Bootloader is still unlocked.
I'm getting a used xt1058 att phone. I'm pretty sure it's on jb or kk. How do I unlock bl and root? Should I take all updates up to lollipop? Then unlock and root so I can get it ready for 7.0 build when it comes to our phone?
check here
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
cell2011 said:
I'm getting a used xt1058 att phone. I'm pretty sure it's on jb or kk. How do I unlock bl and root? Should I take all updates up to lollipop? Then unlock and root so I can get it ready for 7.0 build when it comes to our phone?
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Is this still able to be rooted?
I'm interested to know as well if the XT1058 variant bootloader can be unlocked as well.
Brillant phone & form factor but unfortunately stuck at Lollipop