Hi everyopne. Just noticed something interesting on my nexus 6. I restored factory image yesterday to start of clean with the LYZ28E update. I used Wugs to restore. After restoring and flashing Sinless 6.3.0 everything was good except my data partition was only showing 23 gb. Seems to be a common problem so I did fastboot format userdata as suggested by a few to fix the problem. That fixed the problem and then just to start fresh I reflashed sinless. All is running very good now. Just a few minutes ago I went into security under settings and noticed the I am no longer encrypted. I thought this was weird. Did something change that Google in no longer doing forced encryption on 5.1.1 or did I unencrypt some how by doing format userdata in fastboot. I was under the impression that I needed to flash the special boot.img when restoring the factory image in Wugs. I did mot do any of this. Just want to make sure nothing went wrong. I don't care about being not encrypted so not worried about changing it to encrypted just want to make sure nothing went wrong. Thank you.
-Frank
The ROM you flashed removed the force encrypt. it still encrypts with the stock kernel
IINexusII said:
The ROM you flashed removed the force encrypt. it still encrypts with the stock kernel
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Yes this.
Format removes encryption, then if you have a kernel that doesn't force encrypt, you won't be encrypted at boot, like stock kernel would. You can encrypt via settings if you want.
IINexusII said:
The ROM you flashed removed the force encrypt. it still encrypts with the stock kernel
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danarama said:
Yes this.
Format removes encryption, then if you have a kernel that doesn't force encrypt, you won't be encrypted at boot, like stock kernel would. You can encrypt via settings if you want.
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Thank you guys for the help. I actually like being not encrypted so it worked it. Would not being encrypted have anything to do with wifi calling not working? I am using the kernel that came with Sinless. My understanding is it is a modified stock kernel. I know the non stock kernels don't work with wifi calling. Tank you again for the help.
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Thank you guys for the help. I actually like being not encrypted so it worked it. Would not being encrypted have anything to do with wifi calling not working? I am using the kernel that came with Sinless. My understanding is it is a modified stock kernel. I know the non stock kernels don't work with wifi calling. Tank you again for the help.
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Encryption doesn't matter, but the kernel needs to be 100% stock for WiFi Calling to work. Any modified kernels currently available won't allow WiFi Calling to work.
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Encryption doesn't matter, but the kernel needs to be 100% stock for WiFi Calling to work. Any modified kernels currently available won't allow WiFi Calling to work.
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Thank you
NotATreoFan said:
Encryption doesn't matter, but the kernel needs to be 100% stock for WiFi Calling to work. Any modified kernels currently available won't allow WiFi Calling to work.
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Some users report elementalx 2.0 for M brings WiFi calling to 5.1.1
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Thank you guys for the help. I actually like being not encrypted so it worked it. Would not being encrypted have anything to do with wifi calling not working? I am using the kernel that came with Sinless. My understanding is it is a modified stock kernel. I know the non stock kernels don't work with wifi calling. Tank you again for the help.
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Try elemental 2.0 for m it is working with tmobile wifi calling
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So my question is, what does this deal with and how do this affect flashing between roms? Is userdata somehow u readable because of the encryption if you leave one rom and into the next? I'm on the stock rom, unlocked and rooted, and haven't flashed a different rom yet but I'm getting ready to...
If you already disabled encryption then most custom roms will not force encryption when flashed. However, in order to disable encryption for the first time you need to format/wipe userdata. Bottom line is, if you don't wanna lose any data, backup to a PC, then decrypt. Once your decrypted you can flash between roms and you will stay decrypted.
O ok, I haven't decrypted yet, and am planning on flashing another rom, I'm guessing I have to decrypt before I flash?
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What happens if I don't decrypt and flash roms?
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I have the same question. I have to stay encrypted for work email. Can I stay encrypted and still flash ROMs?
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It depends on what kernel is shipped with the ROM. If you flash a custom kernel over the ROM's existing kernel then you'll be fine assuming the custom kernel's encrypt is "encryptable" in other words, the kernel will leave your phone at its current state (encrypt/decrypted) it won't alter.
And if you flash a decrypted rom /kernel, over the stock which is encrypted, you'll lose your info?
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And if you flash a decrypted rom /kernel, over the stock which is encrypted, you'll lose your info?
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No. If you're unencrypted and you flash a kernel that is ENCRYPT only then your device will just encrypt.
If you want to unencrypt, you'll have to wipe your internal storage to unencrypt again.
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No. If you're unencrypted and you flash a kernel that is ENCRYPT only then your device will just encrypt.
If you want to unencrypt, you'll have to wipe your internal storage to unencrypt again.
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So once you unencrypt, then you have to stay unencrypted or else you'll have to wipe everything again?
What about when you move data from your phone to the computer then back to your phone? Does it matter if it started off encrypted, moved to the comp, then moved back to an unencrypted phone? Would it be able to be read?
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So once you unencrypt, then you have to stay unencrypted or else you'll have to wipe everything again?
What about when you move data from your phone to the computer then back to your phone? Does it matter if it started off encrypted, moved to the comp, then moved back to an unencrypted phone? Would it be able to be read?
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No. If you're unencrypted and you flashed a kernel that is encrypt only, it'll simply encrypt your phone. But if you want to unencrypt, you'll have to wipe everything.
Yes it would read. You're making this way too complicated, its very simple.
Unencrypted -> You remain unencrypted if you flash a kernel that is encryptable; whereas, stock kernel is force-encrypt.
Encrypt -> You remain encrypted if you flash a kernel that is encryptable.
It does not change encrypt to unencrypted and vice versa. The only time it'll change is if you flash a kernel that is force-encrypt while being unencrypted (e.g. Faux Kernel or stock Google Kernel)
O ok thanks for the help! Makes sense... Surprised faux kernel is force-encrypt... Understandable that stock Google would be but a custom one to force-encrypt is odd
Guess I better make sure that I don't flash a custom kernel that is force-encrypt
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O ok thanks for the help! Makes sense... Surprised faux kernel is force-encrypt... Understandable that stock Google would be but a custom one to force-encrypt is odd
Guess I better make sure that I don't flash a custom kernel that is force-encrypt
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A user from the forum thread made a non-forceable encrypted kernel so its not forced .. I believe Faux chose force-encrypt because he believes the shamu is supposed to be encrypted. Most kernels are not force-encrypt, you can always search the thread or ask.
Ok I believe I decrypted my phone correctly.... It now says this under security so I'm guessing it's decrypted...
808phoneaddict said:
Ok I believe I decrypted my phone correctly.... It now says this under security so I'm guessing it's decrypted...
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You are now decrypted
T-Mobile
Decrypted
Rooted
Latest boot loader and firmware
Latest TWRP
I cannot for the love of me acquire data even though status bar says T-Mobile after flashing any AOSP or stock based ROM. Tried with clean flash or dirty flash.
All apns are present and I properly select fast.t mobile. Phone shows as registered with network.
Data only works on Pure Shamu 3.5. After I nandroid back to Pure Shamu data activates right away.
Any ideas or has anyone seen this??
Script...
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T-Mobile
Decrypted
Rooted
Latest boot loader and firmware
Latest TWRP
I cannot for the love of me acquire data even though status bar says T-Mobile after flashing any AOSP or stock based ROM. Tried with clean flash or dirty flash.
All apns are present and I properly select fast.t mobile. Phone shows as registered with network.
Data only works on Pure Shamu 3.5. After I nandroid back to Pure Shamu data activates right away.
Any ideas or has anyone seen this??
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thats strange I flash a couple of roms and never lost data signal. I am on TMO too. .Did you flash any script ?
Have you checked your apn?
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thats strange I flash a couple of roms and never lost data signal. I am on TMO too. .Did you flash any script ?
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Nope.
Toneman07 said:
Have you checked your apn?
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Yes and set it manually cause strangely is not set from the get go anymore
stock nandroid..
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Nope.
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How about on your stock nandroid are you getting no data signal too..Try flashing back to stock nandroid if you made one and go from there..
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How about on your stock nandroid are you getting no data signal too..Try flashing back to stock nandroid if you made one and go from there..
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Nah I got rid of that. It looks like I'm gonna have to fastboot flash the factory image.
It just baffles me that my current ROM has no issues whatsoever and connects right away after a restore
data settings..
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Nah I got rid of that. It looks like I'm gonna have to fastboot flash the factory image.
It just baffles me that my current ROM has no issues whatsoever and connects right away after a restore
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thats what I am about to suggest to you..but before you that go to your settings and check that your not on global..
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Yes and set it manually cause strangely is not set from the get go anymore
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Try pulling out the Sim card And reinserting if the apn weren't there, where did you get set up info? Do you have screen shot
paztine said:
thats what I am about to suggest to you..but before you that go to your settings and check that your not on global..
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Tried global, LTE and 3g on all 5 different Roms I flashed
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Try pulling out the Sim card And reinserting if the apn weren't there, where did you get set up info? Do you have screen shot
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SIM card pull doesn't work with or without reboot. I checked the APN s and they're fine. (There's 3 for T-Mobile + the one for metro PCs)
Have you tried a flash of the radio?
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Have you tried a flash of the radio?
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I did not, but a clean wipe does not touch the radio. The radio is there,; it's just not connecting to it ( I checked baseband)
OP, the same thing has happened to me (and I'm on Verizon). I'm on Euphoria and flashing any other ROM makes me lose data, same thing.
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I did not, but a clean wipe does not touch the radio. The radio is there,; it's just not connecting to it ( I checked baseband)
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True a clean flash doesn't, but in some of the other ROM threads, some say that helped.
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OP, the same thing has happened to me (and I'm on Verizon). I'm on Euphoria and flashing any other ROM makes me lose data, same thing.
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Are you still trying to figure it out??
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True a clean flash doesn't, but in some of the other ROM threads, some say that helped.
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I will definitely try that next time to avoid doing the factory image.
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Are you still trying to figure it out??
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I went to sleep, lol.
Edit: Just tried flashing latest radio; no luck. I guess the next step is doing a full flash back to stock on the phone...bummer.
Annnnnddd flashing stock gets data on stock but not on the ROMs. Hm. It seems only stock based ROMs work
bump...anyone else experiencing this or know what's going on? I'm stuck on stock now.
I wonder if the latest TWRP has something to do with it, cause i had no issues until last week
I had a custom ROM till sunday because I lost wifi, so I flash another rom same issu, did a restore and got back to factory state and wifi started workign again, I just unlock the booatloader to do a root and again no wifi, any ideas (Nexus Sprint)
lordtinuviel said:
I had a custom ROM till sunday because I lost wifi, so I flash another rom same issu, did a restore and got back to factory state and wifi started workign again, I just unlock the booatloader to do a root and again no wifi, any ideas (Nexus Sprint)
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Reboot your router. Bootloader should have no effect on WiFi.
Evolution_Tech said:
Reboot your router. Bootloader should have no effect on WiFi.
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its not the router, I cant get the wifi enable on the phone
any ideas? Im going to root again the device and load a different to see if it makes any difference
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any ideas? Im going to root again the device and load a different to see if it makes any difference
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As @Evolution_Tech told you, bootloader unlock has absolutely no effect on WiFi. Whatever you do to solve this problem, DO NOT RELOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER!
And the fact that your WiFi works on stock ROM, but not custom ROM, tells us something (I'm just not sure what).
Well, I'm not saying that the relocked cause the issue, I'm just saying what I have done before it started happening in fact just saw another thread that is having the same problem...last night I l rooted again the and again no WiFi, so I got back to stock and guess what no WiFi , so something is wrong
BTW my phone rebooted itself and now I have WiFi again...this is really weird
Out of interest, what do you mean by "no wifi"? That's not a helpful description of the problem.
ok WiFi option wont turn on, it hangs and never get activated
its a problem of error in files consisting in "persist" folder that are responsible for wifi
reflash stock rom
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its a problem of error in files consisting in "persist" folder that are responsible for wifi
reflash stock rom
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ok, any reason why it get corrupted?
Ok \, I reload the factory Image and got wireless working, but I just unlock and root and flash CyanideL and again, no wireless, any ideas?
lordtinuviel said:
Ok \, I reload the factory Image and got wireless working, but I just unlock and root and flash CyanideL and again, no wireless, any ideas?
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Probably should test immediately after unlock and root.
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Ok \, I reload the factory Image and got wireless working, but I just unlock and root and flash CyanideL and again, no wireless, any ideas?
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Well, your experiments point to the ROM. I'd suggest restore your backup of stock, get WiFi working again. Then try a different ROM.
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Well, your experiments point to the ROM. I'd suggest restore your backup of stock, get WiFi working again. Then try a different ROM.
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That's what I did, still having he issue
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I just want to have wifi working again using a custom rom
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lordtinuviel said:
I just want to have wifi working again using a custom rom
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If it works on stock, rooted... That's what you need to confirm.
Ensure you full wipe when flashing a custom rom. Try another rom and don't let google download or restore any setting during set up of the new rom.
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If it works on stock, rooted... That's what you need to confirm.
Ensure you full wipe when flashing a custom rom. Try another rom and don't let google download or restore any setting during set up of the new rom.
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going to do it again now
this time, stock did not bring wifi back...any idea?
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this time, stock did not bring wifi back...any idea?
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Post #10. Corrupted again.
Hey guys! So I heard that Android Marshmallow now requires a custom kernel to have SuperSU binaries installed and working! Is there ever going to be a way around this? Or is this just the way rooting is going to be from now on? Also, is it true that Android 6.0 now gives an error and doesn't boot if the system is changed for security reasons? And if that's the case, what's a really good kernel to use that doesn't force encrypt and supports root? Just as basic ad possible, not to crazy about ridiculous kernel mods! Thanks!
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Use ChainFire's modified boot image and SuperSU 2.5*.
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Use ChainFire's modified boot image and SuperSU 2.5*.
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Wow! Didn't know chainfire made that kernel! Does it force encryption? Or give the option? I just wanna know because I wanna know if I need to format my userdata or not for this. I'm 100% stock right now.
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Wow! Didn't know chainfire made that kernel! Does it force encryption? Or give the option? I just wanna know because I wanna know if I need to format my userdata or not for this. I'm 100% stock right now.
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It's just a modified boot.img. It doesn't do anything with encryption and you don't need to format userdata. From what I remember, it just allows rooting, makes system writable, and disables the corrupted device message.
I'd just flash a rooted rom
I've had roms on this phone before, but I've always wiped the data and never formatted, do most custom roms not force encrypt?
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I've had roms on this phone before, but I've always wiped the data and never formatted, do most custom roms not force encrypt?
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roms have nothing to do with it. its kernels, most custom kernels dont force encrypt. but.. you have to actuvely decrypt manually to be decrypted. thats done by formatting user data, which will wipe your phone clean.
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roms have nothing to do with it. its kernels, most custom kernels dont force encrypt. but.. you have to actuvely decrypt manually to be decrypted. thats done by formatting user data, which will wipe your phone clean.
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But all custom roms have kernels in them don't they?
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Looking for latest "stock image" for MRA58R pre rooted and forced enc disabled
Hi,
I have looked at the ROMs in Android Development sub forum but can only find heavily modified ROMs based of MRA58R. I want it stock but pre rooted and no forced encryption.
I have Nexus 6.
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Stian
If you can't find one, why not take the alternative simple route of installing stock (full wipe), then flash modified no-encrypt boot and then supersu?
I flashed doitright's boot.img, booted into Android and then installed his supersu.apk. Incredibly simple. Even though he clearly states that it's a work in progress it has worked flawlessly for me for the past couple of weeks. Unencrypted and rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/root-t3231211
Post 2 on the first page has the instructions and the link.
strips said:
.....MRA58R. I want it stock but pre rooted
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
Using this as 'stock rooted' and works also with franco's kernel r34. Dev @Danvdh has updated this Rom with the latest security updates.
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If you can't find one, why not take the alternative simple route of installing stock (full wipe), then flash modified no-encrypt boot and then supersu?
I flashed doitright's boot.img, booted into Android and then installed his supersu.apk. Incredibly simple. Even though he clearly states that it's a work in progress it has worked flawlessly for me for the past couple of weeks. Unencrypted and rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/root-t3231211
Post 2 on the first page has the instructions and the link.
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Thanks. Doing it my self is always an alternative. I just need to find the time to do it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
Using this as 'stock rooted' and works also with franco's kernel r34. Dev @Danvdh has updated this Rom with the latest security updates.
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Thanks but his rom had modifications I could do without. I like to have 100% stock rom but rooted and no encryption.
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Thanks. Doing it my self is always an alternative. I just need to find the time to do it
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Although we do provide the technical details to DIY, we also provide prebuilt binaries built directly from our provided source. See first LINE of the second post.
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Thanks but his rom had modifications I could do without. I like to have 100% stock rom but rooted and no encryption.
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This rom has that all. The gapps that were removed are in the play store.
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Although we do provide the technical details to DIY, we also provide prebuilt binaries built directly from our provided source. See first LINE of the second post.
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Yes, that's is what I was thinking about when I would do it myself I'm lazy but seing that it is not that many more steps to have a stock rooted phone. Thanks!
NLBeev said:
This rom has that all. The gapps that were removed are in the play store.
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First it doesn't have stock kernel,
Latest stable hC kernel
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Then it has some addons not giving me any value exept a possible source of errors. The missing Google Apps are only a annoyance as I use most of them.
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First it doesn't have stock kernel,
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I understand where you are looking for. Only doubt if you will find that.
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I understand where you are looking for. Only doubt if you will find that.
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At least not yet
I have been looking for the same thing. Seems like before Marshmallow I could always count on seeing a clean, stock, rooted and decrypted ROM I could flash. Just being lazy I know, but oh well.
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I have been looking for the same thing. Seems like before Marshmallow I could always count on seeing a clean, stock, rooted and decrypted ROM I could flash. Just being lazy I know, but oh well.
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decrypted.. you do realize that its encrypted/decrypted via kernel, not rom right? and even if it is decrypted, its you yourself that has to go through the action of reformatting all your data before you are actually decrypted.
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decrypted.. you do realize that its encrypted/decrypted via kernel, not rom right? and even if it is decrypted, its you yourself that has to go through the action of reformatting all your data before you are actually decrypted.
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I am fine with that. Everything I need is backed up somewhere else. Honestly decryption isnt that big of a deal, its just what I got used to flashing.
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decrypted.. you do realize that its encrypted/decrypted via kernel, not rom right? and even if it is decrypted, its you yourself that has to go through the action of reformatting all your data before you are actually decrypted.
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I think he only means a ROM that's not enforcing encryption
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I think he only means a ROM that's not enforcing encryption
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Yeah a lot of people know this means a rom that packs a boot.img that has ramdisk with the fstab.shamu with the data partition mount options changed from forceencrypt to encryptable, but still can be misleading to the less tech savvy readers who might misunderstand it, and believe that encrypting is in the rom part of the flashable zip file.
This is a step in the right direction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-mra58r-gapps-custom-stock-t3254496
It is quite easy just to flash stock images and then flash modified boot.img, twrp recovery and SuperSu. Sure, It is few more click and commands, but it's really that simple...done in a minute...
And for Kernel I am using this one. It is stock one (no encryption) with some added features like vibration control.